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**Fox** · 01-04-2011, 08:19 PM

First of all, the grammar in the thread title is apalling. What the fuck man.

I've talked about Triple H's control over his feuds in depth before - about how he used feuds that "put over" guys like Shelton Benjamin and Eugene to overshadow Chris Benoit's World Title reign, or how he made Goldberg's run in the WWE more about Evolution than about Goldberg, about how he used the racial angle to further his WMXIX storyline with Booker T only to make him look like a fool in the actual match. I still stand by those arguments. Triple H brings up the people who are close to him - it's just politics.

Here's a look at the guys Triple H has "put over":

- Shawn Michaels: his best friend. Enough said.

- Batista: his Evolution buddy, and even though it worked, it's arguable that Batista got the push over other guys who had been there longer and possibly deserved it more. We also got 4 years of shitty Batista matches/promos/storylines out of it.

- Chris Benoit: yeah, he jobbed to Benoit like three times, all cleanly. Can't say much about that, except for the fact that during Benoit's World Title reign he was having shitty, poorly booked feuds with La Resistance and Kane. Not exactly main event programs. Meanwhile, Triple H was starring on RAW in feuds against Shelton Benjamin, Eugene and Shawn Michaels. I believe there was at least one instance of a RAW episode where Benoit, the World Champion, didn't show up AT ALL, and Triple H dominated the airtime with the previously stated programs. Triple H/HBK HIAC also main evented Bad Blood 04 over Benoit/Kane - not to say that it wasn't the obvious better match, but that goes back to the booking - why not Benoit/HBK feud instead of HHH/HBK? Simple: because HHH wanted the spotlight.

- John Cena: Can't say much about this one. Triple H's losses to Cena really did help to propel him into superstardom... even if Cena was booed out of the building.

- Randy Orton: another Evolution buddy, and to be perfectly honest, after Orton won the World Heavyweight title and turned face, the damage that the Triple H/Orton feud did to his career wasn't ever really worth it. It took almost a year and a half, a brand switch and a feud with Undertaker (where Orton actually was made to look good) for Randy to get his steam back.

- Sheamus: his work out buddy, and its arguable that John Cena is the one who put Sheamus over the top by jobbing to him for the WWE Title. Yes, Triple H had some very good matches with Sheamus, but again, it's one of his buddies.

Can't really think of many more. Now let's look at the guys who he has buried, or whose careers he has hurt:

- Mick Foley: Mick jobbed to Triple H like nobodys business when Hunter first got the belt. He made The Game into a bonafide superstar and threat to everyone else, simply by losing in their RR, NWO and WrestleMania 2000 encounters. I don't hold this against HHH though, since it was the beginning of his ME push and the end of Foley's career. Should be mentioned though.

- Chris Jericho: the match that never happened put Jerich over huge, no question about that. But at no other time has Jericho been allowed to defeat The Game. Fully Loaded 2000, their HIAC match, and the biggest of all: the atrocity that was the match and storyline going into WrestleMania X-8. Jericho was riding a huge wave off his Undisputed Title win, but what was the storyline about? Triple H vs. Stephanie McMahon and a fucking dog. Terrible. Jericho was made to look like a complete and total bitch.

- Goldberg: Yes, Goldberg came in and beat The Rock, but his program with Triple H was a total fiasco. While Goldberg should have rightfully won the Elimination Chamber match and walked away with the World title at Summerslam, Triple H won with the sledgehammer. Yes, Goldberg won a month later at Unforgiven, but then he lost it again to Triple H at the very next PPV. Here's a guy who was built up in WCW as an unstoppable monster, but Triple H seems to have no problem taking him down. Terrible.

- Rob Van Dam: Triple H beat his ass on every occasion they stepped into the ring, even when RVD was clearly the most over guy on the roster and deserved the WWF Title, even if only for a month. Instead, RVD got beaten and moved down to much shittier programs, like his tag team run with Kane.

- Kane: The Katie Vick storyline. Enough said. Kane is lucky to have ever recovered from that shit. Not only did it hurt Kane's reputation as Katie Vick will always be attached to his name, but he lost both his mask and the world title match on RAW when Triple H beat him clean. Kane also never scored any kind of victory over Triple H during their few PPV bouts.

- Shelton Benjamin: HHH gave Shelton some excellent matches on RAW and a possible springboard into bigger and better things - or so it seemed. In reality, Triple H's feud with Shelton was just a way for him to point to someone and say "hey, look, I'm not such a bad guy, look what I did for Shelton!" It was also a way for Triple H to take the spotlight off Benoit for a few weeks on RAW, and put it on himself and Shelton Benjamin.

- Randy Orton: See Above.

- Benoit & Edge: This was around New Years Revolution in 2005. Triple H was in the midst of a very controlling World Title run, when on an episode of RAW, both Benoit and Edge forced him to tap out at the same time. The belt was held up and it looked like something exciting might happen at New Years Revolution in the Elimination Chamber. A new champion would be crowned! Alas, Triple H won that match too, and Benoit and Edge went back to mid-card mediocrity.

- Booker T: The racially charged storyline heading into WrestleMania XIX suggested that Booker T HAD to win the match. How else could they justify Triple H standing in the ring and calling him "boy" and saying "his kind" didn't belong on the same stage as Triple H? But what happened? Triple H escaped the Harlem Hangover, hit the Pedigree and waited at least 30 seconds before covering Booker T for the win. And there was no rematch either. Fucking disgaceful.

- The Spirit Squad: How many excellent performers were there in the SS? At least a few, Kenny Dykstra included. But how many times were they given the opportunity to look the least bit competent against The Game and the HBK? Not once. And where are they all now? Nowhere. Perfect opportunity, as Nexus has been for Wade Barrett, to do a really good "gang mentality" storyline and build some new superstars for the future, absolutely wasted so that DX could look like Gods in a bunch of 2-on-5 situations.

Sorry, James Steele. This is just how I feel about it. In all fairness to Triple H, I don't think he's been as bad about being THE GUY on RAW in at least 2-3 years.

01-04-2011, 08:19 PM	#10355
Fox "Ask him!" Posts: 10,075	First of all, the grammar in the thread title is apalling. What the fuck man. I've talked about Triple H's control over his feuds in depth before - about how he used feuds that "put over" guys like Shelton Benjamin and Eugene to overshadow Chris Benoit's World Title reign, or how he made Goldberg's run in the WWE more about Evolution than about Goldberg, about how he used the racial angle to further his WMXIX storyline with Booker T only to make him look like a fool in the actual match. I still stand by those arguments. Triple H brings up the people who are close to him - it's just politics. Here's a look at the guys Triple H has "put over": - Shawn Michaels: his best friend. Enough said. - Batista: his Evolution buddy, and even though it worked, it's arguable that Batista got the push over other guys who had been there longer and possibly deserved it more. We also got 4 years of shitty Batista matches/promos/storylines out of it. - Chris Benoit: yeah, he jobbed to Benoit like three times, all cleanly. Can't say much about that, except for the fact that during Benoit's World Title reign he was having shitty, poorly booked feuds with La Resistance and Kane. Not exactly main event programs. Meanwhile, Triple H was starring on RAW in feuds against Shelton Benjamin, Eugene and Shawn Michaels. I believe there was at least one instance of a RAW episode where Benoit, the World Champion, didn't show up AT ALL, and Triple H dominated the airtime with the previously stated programs. Triple H/HBK HIAC also main evented Bad Blood 04 over Benoit/Kane - not to say that it wasn't the obvious better match, but that goes back to the booking - why not Benoit/HBK feud instead of HHH/HBK? Simple: because HHH wanted the spotlight. - John Cena: Can't say much about this one. Triple H's losses to Cena really did help to propel him into superstardom... even if Cena was booed out of the building. - Randy Orton: another Evolution buddy, and to be perfectly honest, after Orton won the World Heavyweight title and turned face, the damage that the Triple H/Orton feud did to his career wasn't ever really worth it. It took almost a year and a half, a brand switch and a feud with Undertaker (where Orton actually was made to look good) for Randy to get his steam back. - Sheamus: his work out buddy, and its arguable that John Cena is the one who put Sheamus over the top by jobbing to him for the WWE Title. Yes, Triple H had some very good matches with Sheamus, but again, it's one of his buddies. Can't really think of many more. Now let's look at the guys who he has buried, or whose careers he has hurt: - Mick Foley: Mick jobbed to Triple H like nobodys business when Hunter first got the belt. He made The Game into a bonafide superstar and threat to everyone else, simply by losing in their RR, NWO and WrestleMania 2000 encounters. I don't hold this against HHH though, since it was the beginning of his ME push and the end of Foley's career. Should be mentioned though. - Chris Jericho: the match that never happened put Jerich over huge, no question about that. But at no other time has Jericho been allowed to defeat The Game. Fully Loaded 2000, their HIAC match, and the biggest of all: the atrocity that was the match and storyline going into WrestleMania X-8. Jericho was riding a huge wave off his Undisputed Title win, but what was the storyline about? Triple H vs. Stephanie McMahon and a fucking dog. Terrible. Jericho was made to look like a complete and total bitch. - Goldberg: Yes, Goldberg came in and beat The Rock, but his program with Triple H was a total fiasco. While Goldberg should have rightfully won the Elimination Chamber match and walked away with the World title at Summerslam, Triple H won with the sledgehammer. Yes, Goldberg won a month later at Unforgiven, but then he lost it again to Triple H at the very next PPV. Here's a guy who was built up in WCW as an unstoppable monster, but Triple H seems to have no problem taking him down. Terrible. - Rob Van Dam: Triple H beat his ass on every occasion they stepped into the ring, even when RVD was clearly the most over guy on the roster and deserved the WWF Title, even if only for a month. Instead, RVD got beaten and moved down to much shittier programs, like his tag team run with Kane. - Kane: The Katie Vick storyline. Enough said. Kane is lucky to have ever recovered from that shit. Not only did it hurt Kane's reputation as Katie Vick will always be attached to his name, but he lost both his mask and the world title match on RAW when Triple H beat him clean. Kane also never scored any kind of victory over Triple H during their few PPV bouts. - Shelton Benjamin: HHH gave Shelton some excellent matches on RAW and a possible springboard into bigger and better things - or so it seemed. In reality, Triple H's feud with Shelton was just a way for him to point to someone and say "hey, look, I'm not such a bad guy, look what I did for Shelton!" It was also a way for Triple H to take the spotlight off Benoit for a few weeks on RAW, and put it on himself and Shelton Benjamin. - Randy Orton: See Above. - Benoit & Edge: This was around New Years Revolution in 2005. Triple H was in the midst of a very controlling World Title run, when on an episode of RAW, both Benoit and Edge forced him to tap out at the same time. The belt was held up and it looked like something exciting might happen at New Years Revolution in the Elimination Chamber. A new champion would be crowned! Alas, Triple H won that match too, and Benoit and Edge went back to mid-card mediocrity. - Booker T: The racially charged storyline heading into WrestleMania XIX suggested that Booker T HAD to win the match. How else could they justify Triple H standing in the ring and calling him "boy" and saying "his kind" didn't belong on the same stage as Triple H? But what happened? Triple H escaped the Harlem Hangover, hit the Pedigree and waited at least 30 seconds before covering Booker T for the win. And there was no rematch either. Fucking disgaceful. - The Spirit Squad: How many excellent performers were there in the SS? At least a few, Kenny Dykstra included. But how many times were they given the opportunity to look the least bit competent against The Game and the HBK? Not once. And where are they all now? Nowhere. Perfect opportunity, as Nexus has been for Wade Barrett, to do a really good "gang mentality" storyline and build some new superstars for the future, absolutely wasted so that DX could look like Gods in a bunch of 2-on-5 situations. Sorry, James Steele. This is just how I feel about it. In all fairness to Triple H, I don't think he's been as bad about being THE GUY on RAW in at least 2-3 years.