Originally Posted by Blitz
How do perks negate fundamentals? Fundamental of a shooting game is...shooting. Not one perks negates this.
This alone says a lot about what you think of gunfights, but I'll humor you.
To be fair, this didn't happen till MW2, and you seem to have formulated this argument beginning with MW1. Besides, there's still muzzle flare, kill cam, and flat out visual confirmation that lets you know he's there.
Okay.
If your aim is better than his, it doesn't matter. It's about the player, not the perks. I'll take a shit player with Juggernaut (gone from MW2, incidentally), over an excellent player with no perks.
So let's take two players of equal skill, one has Juggy the other does not? What will happen in their encounter?
I feel you on this. It's like when I see a Spiny in a Mario game. I see a turtle like thing walking on the ground, and my default action is to jump on it. But those fuckers have that spine shell buffer, and just kill me. WHAT TO THEY EXPECT ME TO DO, SLIGHTLY ALTER MY PLAY STYLE?!?!?!
Not the same.
And Jesus man, of course it changes outcomes. It's like if I was sneaking up on a guy and he turned and killed me with his rifle? WTF? I was expecting to kill him and he goes and changes that? FUCK INFINITY WARD AND THEIR WEAPON BULLSHIT.
Don't even know what you're getting at here. You think I'm talking about getting shot?
This like saying Street Fighter shouldn't have special moves. Why can't everyone just use kicks and punches? But no, these fucking Fireballs come along that allow you to attack from across the screen! A fireball, of all things! Like you'd ever see that in a real fight. So they put in jumping to counter that, but then Shoryukens counter jump ins, and then...EXPLOITATION ARMS RACE!!!!!!!!!!
Not the same. Keep in mind I already gave you a fighting game with a mode that compares to CoD's Perk system. Stay on point.
Except it is balanced. Yeah, snipers can be silenced and radar invisible, but the silencers do piddly damage. Unless you're capable of a head shot every time (and even then with a silencer on I don't believe it's a sure one shot kill), you're left having to take 2 or 3 shots from a distance with a relatively high recoil rifle. I was ready to kill when I got a silencer for my Intervention, but I took it off after one match where I couldn't even kill in 2 shots. Infinity Ward knows what they are doing. There's nothing in this game I can think of that breaks the balance.
Okay.
As for the underlying engine bit, come on. Games are supposed to be innovative. If the underlying engine is always the same, what's the point in playing different games?
Strawman; I respect individual engines.
It's not chance. Skill. Again, to Street Fighter for an example. It's like playing someone and saying "Man I hope this guy doesn't know any combos".
Again, not the same. Also, combos are based on execution not buffers. ...And what type of pussy would hope that anyway.
It's not a military strategy game. It's a First Person Shooter.
Semantics, call it what you will. Perks hurt an otherwise decent game.
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