Super Smash Bros Ultimate
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Yeah I'm down. Unbelievable package.
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I wonder how many people would have legitimately complained if Pichu didn't return.
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We already got tiers baby
<table class="maintablecss" align="center"><thead class="tableheadcss"><tr><th class="tableheadercss">Tiers</th> <th class="tableheadercss">Super Smash Bros Characters</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody class="tablebodycss"> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">S Tier
The Best</th> <td class="tablecss">Fox, Falco, Marth, Cloud, Bayonetta, Meta Knight, Ridley </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss1"> <th class="tableheader2css">A Tier Strong</th> <td class="tablecss">Rosalina, Inkling, Diddy, Young Link, Sheik, Ryu, Roy, Little Mac </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">B Tier Good</th> <td class="tablecss">Shulk, Duck Hunt, Mega Man, Wolf, Samus, Kirby, King Dedede, Pikachu, Mewtwo, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario, Captain Falcon, Ness, Lucas </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss1"> <th class="tableheader2css">C Tier Average</th> <td class="tablecss">Wario, Lucina, Corrin, Zelda, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Ike, Mr. Game and Watch, Pit, Dark Pit, Villager </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">D Tier Below Average</th> <td class="tablecss">Mario, Link, Luigi, Olimar, R.O.B, Daisy, Sonic, Bowser. Jr, Greninja, Robin, Peach </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss1"> <th class="tableheader2css">E Tier Weak</th> <td class="tablecss">Wii Fit Fighter, Pac Man, Bowser, Dr. Mario, Yoshi, Donkey Kong </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">F Tier The Weakest</th> <td class="tablecss">Jigglypuff, Pichu </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">Confirmed Characters Unranked</th> <td class="tablecss"> Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, Mii Gunner, </td></tr></tbody></table> |
says who?
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Jigglypuff is SSSS tier.
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Always liked using bowser
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This is a very buff happy update. Few nerfs for the obvious offenders. Zelda is gonna be great. I hope Shulk's recovery will be addressed. I really tried making him work.
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Now that Ridley is finally playable, Waluigi being playable is likely the big surprise for the next Smash Bros game.
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Whatever tier list some dude puts together is not some safe bet that a certain match-up will end a certain way. Tier lists are heavily predicated on player being equal skill so the only possibly variables are the designs of the characters. And segmenting tiers with so many levels is elitist posturing; there's no way to quantify how Toon Link is above Link by a tiny degree. Tiers should have four levels; Garbage, Balanced, Strong, Broken.
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If mario is consistently played by the top players on earth then he isnt anything other god tier
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Mario almost never gets a major. It's been Bayo for a long while due to some horseshit in her design. Mario is 'Strong', not broken.
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This game has everything.
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I really like the option to have smash supers obtained by meter.
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I wish more companies took their sequels seriously like Smash and GTA does. Instead of just releasing roster changes each year.
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The Belmonts have been my personal get them into Smash goal since Melee. They're a huge part of Nintendo's past successes that to exclude them can be traced to Konami being morons who hate money. Glad to see them included with all they're fancy toys.
Castlevania stage is gonna be insane. |
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thats some late news ya got there
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I know but no one put it in the thread. Thought "casual smashers" might like to know.
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As far as I'm aware, the "official reason" is Sakurai doesn't think the support for him is genuine. So, because he's a meme? Ridley being "too big" was a meme and Daisy support was a meme. A smaller meme but it was there with a bunch of people spamming comments and stuff on Nintendo things with "Daisy 4 Smash" etc. They both got in. Ridley's reveal even referenced the meme. I think it's just an excuse. Either he's not popular among the dev team (or with Miyamoto) or there is some internal rule about not using him outside of sport spinoffs. He's got a bigger fanbase than Daisy, meme or not, he's got more move and gameplay potential than Daisy and he's definitely more relevant than Daisy. It's great Daisy and Ridley are in I'm just hugely disappointed Waluigi isn't in as a playable character. It seems so obvious to add him. |
Do we need every Mario character in?
Should we add Saria, Impa, Skull Kid, Naboru, and Navi? |
Well we have pretty much the whole cast of Fire Emblem so why not?
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Waluigi as DLC makes sense to me
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FE has 7 characters as of right now. That wouldn't be a problem if there was more variety. Marth, Roy and Lucina are the same character, aren't they? Just tweaked values and stuff? Why didn't they bring in someone with a hammer or something? My knowledge is limited to FE Heros so I can't name names. Mario does have the most characters, I think, but that's the flagship series so it makes sense. Waluigi would just round that out perfectly. He's the missing piece, I'd say. Quote:
Some would say he's an Assist Trophy so he can't be playable but the moon from Zelda is an AT and is a background character in the Termina stage. It's not quite the same but will they have two moons if the moon AT is used on Termina or will that AT be altered or not appear on that stage? They probably wont change anything. Whatever they do with the moon, they can do similar with the Waluigi AT when/if they make him playable. |
Oh believe me I think there is too many FE as well.
Please no DLC, I hate DLC. |
There's gonna be DLC. Square with that.
Waluigi should obviously be added, that's not unreasonable. Mario Bros having a lot of reps is no issue since if any franchise should get special treatment, why not fucking Mario? |
Skull Kid would be cool now that you .mention it.
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The most character development he's gotten in years was the running gag around the net of Nintendo saying he was uncircumcised. Still feel very confident they put him in the next game since he's pretty much the most demanded character left for Smash. Could probably make a case for Geno being higher and Shovel Knight likely being playable before Waluigi. |
You're putting way too much thought behind a game that added Game & Watch, Pichu, and Dog Hunt Dog. None of them I'd call iconic, all of them basically joke/stunt additions. Not to mention characters have made their name beyond their own origins as 'Smash' characters. Captain Falcon, Roy, and Lucas are almost entirely known now as Smash characters.
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Not sure about Pichu but all those characters listed had their own game or were the main characters for a game/series which isn't the case with Waluigi.
At least with Ridley, Sakurai gave an excuse even if it turned out to be flimsy in the end for his omission until now. With Geno, speculation usually revolves around Square owning the rights to the character for his omission. With Waluigi, Nintendo can't even be bothered to make any excuse for his omission. They currently see him as nothing more than Assist Trophy worthy for the Smash series. |
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If there was one character that didn't need to come back it was Pichu.
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It would be weird if the mode ended with a couple of characters left over, so I think we'll get two more characters, at least, making Smashdown use all the characters available regardless wether it's 2, 3 or 4 players. If that happens and we get DLC, which we will, I think the number of DLC characters would need to allow for everyone to be used in Smashdown. It's flimsy, I'll admit, but I'm sticking with it. Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/pPaVNkt.jpg The chairs on the right are the colours of hiss fairies, Tatl and Tael, and the couch on the left is the colour of Skull Kid, along with that weird pattern on the cushions looking like his hat or something. Plus, he's not been shown as an assist trophy. |
Whoa people go deep into those videos.
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The waluigi fandom is very...passionate
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