Cyberpunk 2077
 

New gameplay. Just hook this shit directly into my brain


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got any other steampunk themed games to recommend while we wait for this?

Dishonored 1 & 2.

Shadowrun isn't terrible. The SNES and Genesis versions were the best. The one on steam is pretty good too. Shadowrun Returns

Thankfully I've crushed those already :-), been playing Stardew Valley this summer.

Deus Ex is another good one.

Sounds like a game that was scooped up a couple Steam Summer Sales ago, if not, then the current sale will help

The Division 2 is pretty good right now. Not Cyberpunk, but at times, surreal with what is actually happening in the world right now.


I need to jump back onto 76. Just seems so god damn tedious right now.

Damn that COVID, because of this crap game was delayed, but I can wait, game is really awesome!

CRUNCH TIME!

https://www.ign.com/articles/cyberpu...ekt-red-report

I think from the start, game journalists have been going about the crunch issue all wrong. Attacking the existence of crunch is silly because literally every job with deadlines has crunch, and they probably always will. Hell, I worked in flooring and often had to work 50 hour work weeks to get jobs done in time.

The problem arises in the working environment. If you are going to make, or even ask people to work beyond 40 hours, you need to create a workplace that people feel comfortable doing that in. Ideally you should strive to create an enviornment that makes people want to work extra hours.

And so the problem with crunch in gaming has never been that it exists, but rather, that a lot of companies create a miserable hellscape at their workplace, that make people want to eat a bullet, rather than be there any longer than they have to.

It IS a slippery slope, and it's not surprising that companies which treat their customers like shit also treat their employees like shit. But until a bunch of CD Project Red employees come out and give detailed accounts of dark ages style work conditions, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're doing everything they can to make the overtime as painless as possible while doing what needs to be done. They've earned that trust.

All that said, dude should never have made that promise. You never know what kind of issues and delays might pop up. But at least he's got the balls to come out and take full responsiblity for it.

id love to know what people who villainize crunch do for a living. go ask a lawyer about what crunch is like. its the job; comes with the territory.


the evils of crunch of propagated by YouTubers and children.

All done. Gone Gold.

Apparently the world map is floating around online.

That attitude prevailing is kind of the problem, though. It's a similar attitude of how GameStop got away with being a shit company for so long because of how it lures in young, naive nerds who think of it as a dream job, and how more of those "suckers" can be thrown into the ground level grinding wheel of low pay, minimal hours, having lofty numbers goals hanging over their heads, and the perpetual Sword of Damocles above them; that they can be replaced at the expense of the next young, naive nerd. And that's just retail. These people - programmers, testers, and the like - have more specialized skills working on more technical things.

Just because "business is done that way" and possibly done that way forever doesn't mean it should be done that way. And in an industry like games, there's this weird conflation of people voluntarily banding together and putting in all the time and effort neccessary for a great product, and a corporate mandated encampment. Even in other job fields like, say, manufacturing, there's a gulf of difference between offered overtime and mandatory overtime. It's really only after the EA Spouse letter that any of it came to some sort of public thought, but it doesn't mean it was never a horrible way to do business, just not a publicly discussed one.

To simply pass this off as YouTubes (where I assume you mean they're being reactionary for views) and children (who I presume you mean don't know any better) is pretty reductive. On top, how does this make *them* the villain for pointing out bullshit? Again, just because business is done that way doesn't mean it should be. Another conjoining business practice is essentially holding ones career hostage with the same type of logic where people say "if you don't like living wherever you are, just move", as if moving is a free and simple prospect. In this case, quitting the job probably also means you getting a black mark in the industry; being labled as "difficult to work with" or somesuch nonsense, to where nobody wants to hire you for your "reputation"... a reputation born from you not wanting to live out of your office and throw your personal life into upheaval for a few weeks/months unexpectedly because someone above your paygrade deemed it neccessary to do so. I've had a couple jobs like that. Shit sucked. But for me it fortunately wasn't something I had a degree tied to, or in a business where they would talk to other places similar to them and potentially prevent me from doing something similar elsewhere.

What makes this particular story a bit scummier is that CDPR made a show about how they wouldn't/didn't have to crunch for Cyberpunk because they're better than that; that they could just delay the launch instead of shitting on their workers to the adulation and brownie points of the public... and here we are. It makes it seem as if they either went back on their word, or they never intended to keep it in the first place.

In a perfect world, crunch wouldn't exist. We don't live in a perfect world.

You would fundamentally have to change how the world works, to get rid of crunch in any profession that revolves around deadlines.

Good luck with that.

work is voluntary. if the needs of the employer dont match match the need of the employee the solution is obvious. this notion of some work utopia is farcical. to achieve great things it requires a great effort. the notion of the contrary is childish.

case in point im on vacation right now. why? i just worked literally 90 days straight 70-80hrs/w. reached a point of accomplishment and now im resting. work needed to be done. this is fins because i chose this when i took the job and im a man and not a child.

Destor, you are not a man. You are a fuckin' beast!

When this comes out, I'm going to play cyberpunk the way Destor works.

Pfft, I'll do it without the break. Pussies.

Oof 90 days straight. Much respect for that. I pulled 12 hr shifts every day for 3-4 weeks once and was ready to burn it all down. Prob had a lot to do with working overnight and having a newborn at home that made it v hard to sleep during the day so I was constantly running on fumes, but still, I was getting ready for arson.

That being said those fat paychecks with all that overtime sure were lovely.

I've decided that I'ma just buy this on Stadia. I got multiple 4k TVs, play on the go.

F da hate...I'll prob buy it eventually for multiple systems anyways depending on mp. (gta5)

Course, if you bought it for console, you'll get the "next gen" version free.

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Just a little over a month :o

Jesus......


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Still crunching.

CD Projekt Red delays the game again. This time due to shipping issues. 9 consoles across 2 generations is a big task it seems.

New release date is now December 10th, 2020.

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Motherfuckers.

Keep delaying it until its ready please.

If I was excited for this game I would not care if it were delayed, I'm sure it's for good reasons, I imagine the workers are under extreme stress which seems bad

I wouldnt have an issue if they delayed it until Spring next year. Gamers need this to be right. It's a big deal. I would hate if they put a unfinished product out.

https://www.tpwwforums.com/customava.../avatar1_1.gif game looks like Yonkers

Yeah, in an era of gaming where companies push out buggy, unfinished, poorly optimized games to meet deadlines, I’m not gonna complain about a company taking the time to make sure that everything is working right.

100

They have been working with the old gen consoles for 6 years, if there is any problem its with the new ones or with that fucking Stadia crap.

have a hard time believing the PC recommended requirements too: i7-4790 + GTX 1060. Wonder if you could get 1080p60 at medium with such a setup. That's nearly the exact cpu I'm running so it would be nice if that really would be enough for high settings though

Had pto time that I had to burn and I randomly picked the 11th and 14th months ago before they announced the last delay. Looking like a good call.

10

HAPPY 10 POSTS, DRAVE82!!!

Thursday the 10th is going to be hard at work. Going to just look for excuses to leave early and not be able to focus on anything other than going home.

Will only come home to find i forgot to leave it in rest mode and it still needs do be downloaded.

You change those settings right god damn now Frank.


Change it......

Just keep thinking of that scene in The Abyss where Mar Elizabeth-Mastrantonio is yelling at Ed Harris

"YOU DROP YOUR WEIGHTS AND START BACK NOW!!!"

but he just lays there waiting for death.

I don't get this game, seems like there's way way too much hype behind it. I can't envision a scenario where it's not disappointing

I think the hype is simply because its the same studio that did Witcher 3 and the game looks like its checking all the right boxes.

They did so well with Witcher 3 not just in that its one of the best games of all time but they gave away alot of stuff for free and did a bunch of updates to better the game. Stuff that people actively wanted them to change which made alot of people happy. Even the paid expansions were massive and added so much to the game. They weren't just thrown out there for a quick buck.

Tl;dr

CD Project Red has done something very rare these days and is a studio that people trust to deliver a great product based on previous experiences.

My peen is ready for this; don't blue-balls us again, CDPR.

It's kinda like the Skyrim or Mass Effect of today. These type of games just don't come along too often. People can overhype themselves into oblivion, for sure, just keep your expectations grounded in reality. The game has been talked about for nearly 10 years now I think? Some people are going to 100% disappoint themselves.



The RPG elements are great, the environment appears to be varied and populated, the story seems interesting AF (to me at least).

I havent played it yet, but calling it the Skyrim of today makes me like it less, because Skyrim was a huge dissapointment to me They rolled back a lot of amazing things they did right in Morrowind and only improved on the combat. I hope this is not the case of Cyberpunk, Witcher 3 was pretty damn good.

Nothing about your post was surprising, given your aversion to Zelda in the other thread some time ago.




Skyrim is amazing.

Its not a bad game, but compared to Morrowind, it is nothing. Morrowind continues to be the top of the Elder Scrolls Series. Morrowind took what daggerfall did and improved on it. Skyrim (and Oblivion) just dumbed down what was done right in Morrowind and Daggerfall. The only thing they improved was the combat.

Which, as a raging lunatic, was the most critical aspect.


Played Morrowind as well. It is great but too convoluted and I tend to get bored after about 10-15 hours in.

That looks more like 2037 rather than 2077. I reckon 2077 to be a lot more "futuristic" looking than that shit.

Whoa! HaHa bro your man stevie (owenbrown) is ---->>>> THATAWAY haha

You can be my April. :love:

I'm a semi fan of Elder Scrolls Online...dunno why all the hate.

they got it right where blizzard fucked up

Anyone have thoughts as to the launch? Is it going to be a No Man's Sky type cluster or will this be the greatest thing since Witcher 3?

Yeah ESO gets way too much hate. I think it's because it tried so hard to be an MMO but came off as a really huge single player ES game that has other people playing at the same time. Either way ESO is absolutely massive and has the most amount of content and if you treat it as a single player game you'll never know that you aren't playing a mainline entry in the series.

Not liking the sound of some of the early reviews. Short, buggy and poorly optimized. Ruh-roh.

The optimization seems like a huge issue. It was lagging and having screen tears on a PC with a rtx3080 and it was only running in 1080p with ray tracing turned OFF. That doesn't sound good.

Honestly think with all the delays they should have just held onto it until next year and got it perfect.

Sitting on a 91 right now over at Metacritic.

Everyone loves it so with Gamespot being the notable outfit giving it a 7 so far.

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hahahaha

ALMOST TIME

I'M CREATING MAH CHARACTER, FAGGERTZ

playing around with my character creation genitals. i feel like RP in a highway exit adult bookstore

How big did you make your first cock?

I went with a chick..almost gave her a big dick but decided i might want to go down on V's V on my TV

Man....If I knew Fig, I'd have a controller in his hand for this game

My special edition should arrive today.

Not jumping in until I finish AC: Valhalla.

Dying @ work rn

It's ok, Frank. You're not alone

I was playing it last night. Set my Xbox region to UK and it let me play it

https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/10/...-google-stadia

"It may be hard to believe, but the Google Stadia version of Cyberpunk 2077 may be the best way to play for most players right now. Unless you have a 20 or 30 Series Nvidia GPU or comparable AMD card or you were lucky enough to get a PS5 or Xbox Series X / S, this game will not be performing anywhere close to how it was designed to. That means going the cloud gaming route is a surprisingly viable option if you’re concerned about performance and you also want the added benefits Stadia provides, like playing across multiple devices and not having to download the game or any subsequent updates to get right to playing.

I’ve played through the first few hours of the game on Stadia, and I’ve been very impressed with how well Cyberpunk 2077 is holding up. Unlike the console versions, the Stadia one has graphical presets to prioritize either resolution or frame rate. And it runs smoothly and looks almost indistinguishable from the console version in my experience on a 50 Mbps-plus internet connection, even over Wi-Fi. (I’ve also been testing the game on PS5.)"

I havent played it, but i've watched a few streams for a bit and it looks fantastic.

I haven't crashed yet. few hours in

All out combat sucks on a controller kinda tho... I might play on PC with keyboard/mouse for intense situations. I heard you can't bind different keys tho* I much prefer arrow keys to WASD since I mouse with the left hand

*PC, yes...edit a file and I heard it works...have done it for past games but no local files for Stadia...heh. I'll have to look into this more.

It's hard to get used to since I've always played FPS on computer, rather than console. At least you aren't forced to be first person while driving because it's awkward af

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game crashed like twice this evening but was back in game both times within like a minute back to where I was (save often).

Mine arrived yesterday. Huge box for such a little statue.

PLayed about 8 hours in or so. Holy fuck man.


The storytelling is some next level shit, and done very well so far. Combat is pretty good, but AI seems kinda dumb SOMETIMES. IMO - stealth is fun AF, but you definitely have to level it up for it to be more effective. Gunplay is alright. Been playing Destiny 2 recently, and no shooting feels as good as that game, so I'm adjusting.



Just to to the part where things "open up" for you to do whatever you want and there is a ton of choice. The map makes things easy to find, track, etc. Ability to turn all this shit off in the menus is even better.




It could be a lot better looking. I feel like the "current gen" consoles (PS5, XSX) will handle it much better. Two times, my Xbox One X froze for about 10 seconds while loading additional assets, one of those times caused me to have to restart the app. Nothing gamebreaking, and just twice in 8 hours isn't bad.


Some of the areas and models look better than others. The lighting is on point though. Whether the neon signs glowing and buzzing, or the bright shine of the sun, lighting is fantastic.


Music is awesome too. Lotsa variety on the radio stations. An actual very heavy metal station, which is the first one I can recall in any game I've played.


The wait was worth it for me. I've already had to resist starting another character for various reasons, but can see myself doing multiple play throughs.

Mine still hasn't arrived. Fedex on a roll fucking with my shipping this week. Assholes. But it's ok because I too have to finish Valhalla before I jump in.

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I just finished the prologue and got that stud in my head. i'm thinking i can free roam soon? V ain't leaving her apt just yet for me...until tomorrow. soberish

Goddamn tho. JSH is a tank compared to V. pew pew pew

sorry not sorry about potential spoilazh

fookin Jackie, man

FACK

Updates:


* Car audio no longer works. While not game breaking, it's extremely frustrating for me personally.


* Lots of clipping, pop-ins and stuttering. Kinda depends where I am in the city. This game has locked up on me more than any game I've played on my console. Goes from the occasional "freeze", (but I do see a loading icon in the top-middle portion of the screen) to a full on crash. I've crashed to "Home" 4x so far. Frequent saves are your BFF in 2077.



* Twice, whatever item I was looking at in inventory would stay on the screen no matter what I did. Had this persist through a braindance, which made it almost impossible to scan what I needed to scan


* The graphics look dated.... sometimes. This is tricky. Sometimes the game is gorgeous, other times, it looks fucking abysmal - like a launch title for the 360/PS3. I wish I was exaggerating.



There are other minor annoyances, but overall it truly doesn't feel "complete" I guess? They definitely need to work on console optimization. Hopefully they work on this first, as it seems to be the most detrimental.


If I had to rate it right now, it'd be a hard 5. The RPG system is there and working, but there are too many issues plaguing it right now for it to be great.

I honestly dunno if I even wanna play mine now. Found out that the PS5 doesn't get a 30 fps quality mode and only has the ps4 version in performance mode. XSX already has the quality mode as well, so kinda want to wait for PS5 to get it via patch or even until they do the actual next gen version patches. Whenever that may be.

I don't think expecting basic functionality has anything to do with "too much hype" you smug tit.


Now, I expect CDPR to patch the major bugs first, such as performance and visuals. Don't feel like it was ready for release, but pressure for holiday sales numbers forced it.

Pretty much echo what drave said in his last couple of posts.

I'm still going to play it as its generally what I wanted (The Witcher in the future) but it needs a solid few layers of polish to it.

V nowhere near as engaging as Geralt so far tho. Geralt was a character on his own where it seems like they want you to be V.

Ossman is on some fucking gonk shit though.

Fook spending eddies on cars. jackie's cycle is where it's at

I guess I'm having a lot better experience than ya'll. Not 1 crash today.

Honestly, the game gets annoying with all the goddamn incoming cellular calls and side missions and car offers...makes it hard to peacefully explore. It takes GTA4's mobile phone spam from girlfriends/cousin and amps it da fuq up lol

Can you samurais imagine if this game had been a collaboration between Rockstar, Ubisoft, and CD Projekt RED? Fuck

I haven't played it, I'm just seeing that a lot of people are pissed. It seems like a nice game but the amount of hype it had combined with it being unfinished seems like a bad combo!

Not a single crash after I made that post, and things ran a shit ton smoother. Started a new character to see if certain "bugs" were just on my save, they weren't.


Still no car radio audio - which I learned is actually ANY radio at all in the entire game.


Get used to the calls, Samurai. The more you raise that street cred, the more calls flow in. Hit street cred 21 last night, so woot for that. Think that means I can get mantis blades now, fuck yeah. They could use without the god damn Delamain spam though. I couldn't give a fuck less about your stupid cars, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


Also, like Drebin, I'm still playing through because the game is really damn good, what they are trying to accomplish with it I mean. The idea is pretty clear, and on PC, it is ALMOST bug-free. Still lotsa shit happening there too, but not nearly to the degree of the consoles.


I believe CDPR will fix this. Solely going off history of how they fixed up Witcher 3, they will straighten this shit out too.

No store is gonna refund for an open game.

Gamestop will give you $8 bucks for it though .

Ha! so true. I think maybe they meant if you ordered from them? I dunno.


I'm patient enough with it. Waited for a decade, what's a month or two more tbh.