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Big Vic 06-13-2018 12:40 PM

Super Smash Bros Ultimate
 
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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5133197)
Was worried for a sec that every fighter was returning except Wolf. Wonder what his final smash will be.


Kalyx triaD 06-13-2018 12:54 PM

Yeah I'm down. Unbelievable package.

Big Vic 06-13-2018 01:27 PM

I wonder how many people would have legitimately complained if Pichu didn't return.

Big Vic 06-13-2018 01:47 PM

We already got tiers baby
 
<table class="maintablecss" align="center"><thead class="tableheadcss"><tr><th class="tableheadercss">Tiers</th> <th class="tableheadercss">Super Smash Bros Characters</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody class="tablebodycss"> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">S Tier
The Best</th> <td class="tablecss">Fox, Falco, Marth, Cloud, Bayonetta, Meta Knight, Ridley </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss1"> <th class="tableheader2css">A Tier
Strong</th> <td class="tablecss">Rosalina, Inkling, Diddy, Young Link, Sheik, Ryu, Roy, Little Mac </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">B Tier
Good</th> <td class="tablecss">Shulk, Duck Hunt, Mega Man, Wolf, Samus, Kirby, King Dedede, Pikachu, Mewtwo, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario, Captain Falcon, Ness, Lucas </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss1"> <th class="tableheader2css">C Tier
Average</th> <td class="tablecss">Wario, Lucina, Corrin, Zelda, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Ike, Mr. Game and Watch, Pit, Dark Pit, Villager </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">D Tier
Below Average</th> <td class="tablecss">Mario, Link, Luigi, Olimar, R.O.B, Daisy, Sonic, Bowser. Jr, Greninja, Robin, Peach </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss1"> <th class="tableheader2css">E Tier
Weak</th> <td class="tablecss">Wii Fit Fighter, Pac Man, Bowser, Dr. Mario, Yoshi, Donkey Kong </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">F Tier
The Weakest</th> <td class="tablecss">Jigglypuff, Pichu </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">Confirmed Characters
Unranked</th> <td class="tablecss"> Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, Mii Gunner,
</td></tr></tbody></table>

Destor 06-13-2018 01:53 PM

says who?

Ruien 06-13-2018 05:36 PM

Jigglypuff is SSSS tier.

Fignuts 06-13-2018 05:50 PM

Always liked using bowser

Kalyx triaD 06-13-2018 05:59 PM

This is a very buff happy update. Few nerfs for the obvious offenders. Zelda is gonna be great. I hope Shulk's recovery will be addressed. I really tried making him work.

Emperor Smeat 06-13-2018 06:36 PM

Now that Ridley is finally playable, Waluigi being playable is likely the big surprise for the next Smash Bros game.

Destor 06-13-2018 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5133231)
<table class="maintablecss" align="center"><thead class="tableheadcss"><tr><th class="tableheadercss">Tiers</th> <th class="tableheadercss">Super Smash Bros Characters</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody class="tablebodycss"> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">S Tier
The Best</th> <td class="tablecss">Fox, Falco, Marth, Cloud, Bayonetta, Meta Knight, Ridley </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss1"> <th class="tableheader2css">A Tier
Strong</th> <td class="tablecss">Rosalina, Inkling, Diddy, Young Link, Sheik, Ryu, Roy, Little Mac </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">B Tier
Good</th> <td class="tablecss">Shulk, Duck Hunt, Mega Man, Wolf, Samus, Kirby, King Dedede, Pikachu, Mewtwo, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario, Captain Falcon, Ness, Lucas </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss1"> <th class="tableheader2css">C Tier
Average</th> <td class="tablecss">Wario, Lucina, Corrin, Zelda, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Ike, Mr. Game and Watch, Pit, Dark Pit, Villager </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">D Tier
Below Average</th> <td class="tablecss">Mario, Link, Luigi, Olimar, R.O.B, Daisy, Sonic, Bowser. Jr, Greninja, Robin, Peach </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss1"> <th class="tableheader2css">E Tier
Weak</th> <td class="tablecss">Wii Fit Fighter, Pac Man, Bowser, Dr. Mario, Yoshi, Donkey Kong </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">F Tier
The Weakest</th> <td class="tablecss">Jigglypuff, Pichu </td> </tr> <tr class="tablerowcss0"> <th class="tableheader2css">Confirmed Characters
Unranked</th> <td class="tablecss"> Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, Mii Gunner,
</td></tr></tbody></table>

Still wanta source for this. Mario won the pro tourney today. AS USUAL. Finals were mario v sonic.

Kalyx triaD 06-13-2018 10:29 PM

Whatever tier list some dude puts together is not some safe bet that a certain match-up will end a certain way. Tier lists are heavily predicated on player being equal skill so the only possibly variables are the designs of the characters. And segmenting tiers with so many levels is elitist posturing; there's no way to quantify how Toon Link is above Link by a tiny degree. Tiers should have four levels; Garbage, Balanced, Strong, Broken.

Destor 06-13-2018 11:36 PM

If mario is consistently played by the top players on earth then he isnt anything other god tier

Kalyx triaD 06-14-2018 12:34 AM

Mario almost never gets a major. It's been Bayo for a long while due to some horseshit in her design. Mario is 'Strong', not broken.

Savio 08-08-2018 11:23 PM

Some new info be droppin:

https://youtu.be/P-kQWJrjRV4

Kalyx triaD 08-08-2018 11:43 PM

This game has everything.

Fignuts 08-09-2018 04:22 AM

I really like the option to have smash supers obtained by meter.

Big Vic 08-09-2018 07:48 AM

I wish more companies took their sequels seriously like Smash and GTA does. Instead of just releasing roster changes each year.

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 5156349)
Some new info be droppin:

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Quoted so I could embed

Shadow 08-10-2018 10:10 AM

The Belmonts have been my personal get them into Smash goal since Melee. They're a huge part of Nintendo's past successes that to exclude them can be traced to Konami being morons who hate money. Glad to see them included with all they're fancy toys.

Castlevania stage is gonna be insane.

Big Vic 09-27-2018 08:21 AM

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https://venturebeat.com/wp-content/u...C300&strip=all

Nintendo announced today that Isabelle from Animal Crossing is joining the roster in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate releases for the Switch on December 7. The fighting game is one of the system’s biggest releases for the year, making it a huge part of Nintendo’s holiday strategy. Ultimate will include every character who has even been playable in the series’ history in its roster.

Destor 09-27-2018 10:04 AM

thats some late news ya got there

Big Vic 09-27-2018 10:48 AM

I know but no one put it in the thread. Thought "casual smashers" might like to know.

Drakul 09-27-2018 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5133307)
Now that Ridley is finally playable, Waluigi being playable is likely the big surprise for the next Smash Bros game.

I don't get why Walugi isn't playable now.

As far as I'm aware, the "official reason" is Sakurai doesn't think the support for him is genuine. So, because he's a meme?

Ridley being "too big" was a meme and Daisy support was a meme. A smaller meme but it was there with a bunch of people spamming comments and stuff on Nintendo things with "Daisy 4 Smash" etc. They both got in. Ridley's reveal even referenced the meme.

I think it's just an excuse. Either he's not popular among the dev team (or with Miyamoto) or there is some internal rule about not using him outside of sport spinoffs.

He's got a bigger fanbase than Daisy, meme or not, he's got more move and gameplay potential than Daisy and he's definitely more relevant than Daisy.

It's great Daisy and Ridley are in I'm just hugely disappointed Waluigi isn't in as a playable character. It seems so obvious to add him.

Big Vic 09-27-2018 01:59 PM

Do we need every Mario character in?

Should we add Saria, Impa, Skull Kid, Naboru, and Navi?

Drakul 09-27-2018 02:00 PM

Well we have pretty much the whole cast of Fire Emblem so why not?

Destor 09-27-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakul (Post 5177009)
Well we have pretty much the whole cast of Fire Emblem so why not?

fire emblem has 100s of characters...smash has...4?

Destor 09-27-2018 02:05 PM

Waluigi as DLC makes sense to me

Drakul 09-27-2018 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5177013)
fire emblem has 100s of characters...smash has...4?

I know. I was exaggerating. Adding Waluigi wouldn't be "adding every Mario character" as Big Vic implied. I felt they were exaggerating so I responded the same way. No ill will intended to Big Vic.

FE has 7 characters as of right now. That wouldn't be a problem if there was more variety. Marth, Roy and Lucina are the same character, aren't they? Just tweaked values and stuff? Why didn't they bring in someone with a hammer or something? My knowledge is limited to FE Heros so I can't name names.

Mario does have the most characters, I think, but that's the flagship series so it makes sense. Waluigi would just round that out perfectly. He's the missing piece, I'd say.

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Originally Posted by Destor
Waluigi as DLC makes sense to me

Hopefully.

Some would say he's an Assist Trophy so he can't be playable but the moon from Zelda is an AT and is a background character in the Termina stage.
It's not quite the same but will they have two moons if the moon AT is used on Termina or will that AT be altered or not appear on that stage? They probably wont change anything.

Whatever they do with the moon, they can do similar with the Waluigi AT when/if they make him playable.

Big Vic 09-27-2018 02:44 PM

Oh believe me I think there is too many FE as well.

Please no DLC, I hate DLC.

Kalyx triaD 09-27-2018 04:22 PM

There's gonna be DLC. Square with that.

Waluigi should obviously be added, that's not unreasonable.

Mario Bros having a lot of reps is no issue since if any franchise should get special treatment, why not fucking Mario?

Fignuts 09-27-2018 05:12 PM

Skull Kid would be cool now that you .mention it.

Emperor Smeat 09-27-2018 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakul (Post 5177005)
I don't get why Walugi isn't playable now.

As far as I'm aware, the "official reason" is Sakurai doesn't think the support for him is genuine. So, because he's a meme?

Ridley being "too big" was a meme and Daisy support was a meme. A smaller meme but it was there with a bunch of people spamming comments and stuff on Nintendo things with "Daisy 4 Smash" etc. They both got in. Ridley's reveal even referenced the meme.

I think it's just an excuse. Either he's not popular among the dev team (or with Miyamoto) or there is some internal rule about not using him outside of sport spinoffs.

He's got a bigger fanbase than Daisy, meme or not, he's got more move and gameplay potential than Daisy and he's definitely more relevant than Daisy.

It's great Daisy and Ridley are in I'm just hugely disappointed Waluigi isn't in as a playable character. It seems so obvious to add him.

Nintendo pretty much still views him as nothing more than just a joke character and have debunked or ignored anything that could make him unique over the years (ex. Wario's bro idea).

The most character development he's gotten in years was the running gag around the net of Nintendo saying he was uncircumcised.

Still feel very confident they put him in the next game since he's pretty much the most demanded character left for Smash. Could probably make a case for Geno being higher and Shovel Knight likely being playable before Waluigi.

Kalyx triaD 09-27-2018 06:40 PM

You're putting way too much thought behind a game that added Game & Watch, Pichu, and Dog Hunt Dog. None of them I'd call iconic, all of them basically joke/stunt additions. Not to mention characters have made their name beyond their own origins as 'Smash' characters. Captain Falcon, Roy, and Lucas are almost entirely known now as Smash characters.

Emperor Smeat 09-27-2018 07:33 PM

Not sure about Pichu but all those characters listed had their own game or were the main characters for a game/series which isn't the case with Waluigi.

At least with Ridley, Sakurai gave an excuse even if it turned out to be flimsy in the end for his omission until now. With Geno, speculation usually revolves around Square owning the rights to the character for his omission.

With Waluigi, Nintendo can't even be bothered to make any excuse for his omission. They currently see him as nothing more than Assist Trophy worthy for the Smash series.

Savio 09-27-2018 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5177210)
The most character development he's gotten in years was the running gag around the net of Nintendo saying he was uncircumcised.

Lol what? this is fake right?

https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/n...mcised-reason/

Savio 09-27-2018 07:39 PM

If there was one character that didn't need to come back it was Pichu.

Emperor Smeat 09-27-2018 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 5177241)

Yeup. The website is very similar to The Onion for comedy and satire.

Kalyx triaD 09-28-2018 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 5177242)
If there was one character that didn't need to come back it was Pichu.

Everybody came back tho.

Drakul 09-29-2018 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5177038)
Oh believe me I think there is too many FE as well.

Please no DLC, I hate DLC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 5177123)
There's gonna be DLC. Square with that.

Waluigi should obviously be added, that's not unreasonable.

I have a theory. There are 70 characters revealed so far (PKMN Trainer is counted as 3 on the site but they are one slot so they are one character) and Smashdown, so far, could be played 17.5 times with 70 characters and 4 players.
It would be weird if the mode ended with a couple of characters left over, so I think we'll get two more characters, at least, making Smashdown use all the characters available regardless wether it's 2, 3 or 4 players.

If that happens and we get DLC, which we will, I think the number of DLC characters would need to allow for everyone to be used in Smashdown.

It's flimsy, I'll admit, but I'm sticking with it.

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5177177)
Skull Kid would be cool now that you .mention it.

Some people think he's in and that this was a hint:

https://i.imgur.com/pPaVNkt.jpg

The chairs on the right are the colours of hiss fairies, Tatl and Tael, and the couch on the left is the colour of Skull Kid, along with that weird pattern on the cushions looking like his hat or something. Plus, he's not been shown as an assist trophy.

Big Vic 10-01-2018 06:39 PM

Whoa people go deep into those videos.

Destor 10-01-2018 06:54 PM

The waluigi fandom is very...passionate


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