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Supreme Olajuwon 10-26-2020 08:32 PM

Is Roman Reigns wrestling with his shirt on for 8 years the biggest mistake in wrestling history?
 
I’ve prepared a 12,000 word essay that I believe definitively proves the answer is yes. However before posting it I will post this picture that I believe also removes any doubt.

https://img-bleacherreport-net.cdn.a...75&h=2048&q=85

I mean look. at. THAT. Who in their right mind would look at that and think hey we need to hide that under a dorky padded vest?!

I believe (and can prove) that all the negative things that have happened to WWE in the past 8 years, including the creation of AEW, would not have happened if Roman Reigns took his shirt off in the ring.



Feel free to present what you believe to be the biggest mistake in wrestling history and I will compare it to this atrocity. Be forewarned though, you are likely to lose. Thank you.

rez 10-26-2020 09:30 PM

Word. Not to downplay the seriousness of Leukemia but but...damn. He could have probably broke open his vest Hogan style and sent all the cancer cells out into outer space.

Nicky Fives 10-26-2020 10:27 PM

He seems a bit more ripped than he used to be, but yeah.... Makes all the sense in the world now....he should even go back to traditional tights

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-26-2020 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 5384643)
He seems a bit more ripped than he used to be,

Maybe marginally, but he was always pretty ripped.

https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/gallery...1415353272.jpg

Damian Rey 2.0 10-26-2020 10:58 PM

It never made sense to keep him covered up post SHIELD. Especially because he's had the tattoos for a while now.

xrodmuc316 10-26-2020 11:26 PM

Yeah he for sure busted his ass to get ripped again. He was noticeably smaller in Hobbs and Shaw, which he filmed I believe right before he came back in 2019 from his Leukemia treatment.

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Emperor Smeat 10-26-2020 11:45 PM

If I remember correctly, the reason Reigns stuck with the vest look post-Shield was due to him having a flabby upper body and Vince not being fond of his shirtless look for a top guy.

Wasn't till he took a break from WWE to fight his leukemia that he started to get ripped again like during his FCW days. Not sure if he started to lose that chiseled look sometime after he returned but he did spend a lot of his time away the second time working out to get into ripped shape for his SummerSlam return.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-27-2020 06:43 AM

Did vince himself tell you that Smeat? Because he literally never looked flabby.

I remember one photo he took with the rock where he didn't look ripped but the camera can play funny tricks. In fact, it's from the shoot that xrod posted where he actually looks jacked.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-27-2020 07:13 AM

Yeah man Vince doesn’t like flabby Samoans

https://cheappopculture.files.wordpr...14/04/yoko.jpg

Supreme Olajuwon 10-27-2020 07:13 AM

Yeah man Vince doesn’t like flabby Samoans

https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/...qk-600x338.jpg

Supreme Olajuwon 10-27-2020 07:16 AM

Yeah man Vince doesn’t like flabby Samoans

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.co...Rikishi1-1.jpg

Supreme Olajuwon 10-27-2020 07:17 AM

Yeah man Vince doesn’t like flabby Samoans

https://img.particlenews.com/img/id/...mbnail_512x288

Supreme Olajuwon 10-27-2020 07:34 AM

I AM NOT POSTING A PICTURE OF NIA JAX THAT IS MEAN AND DOESNT GO WITH THE BIT

Sepholio 10-27-2020 07:55 AM

You know when I was younger I had no idea Yokozuna was Samoan. I legit thought he was Japanese because of the name/gimmick.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-27-2020 08:41 AM

Well, I mean, I thought he was Japanese until he spoke for the first time and it became very clear he wasn't.

Droford 10-27-2020 08:45 AM

I think Umaga wasn't as bad as the others

Evil Vito 10-27-2020 11:44 AM

Roman was never flabby but I think Vince had concerns that he would become that way through genetics.

Not to say that Vince dislikes flabby Samoans, not true as evidenced in this thread. But he's picky and it's probably not the look he wants for the top face of his company.

Evil Vito 10-27-2020 11:45 AM

Oh yeah plus Vince was hellbent on having Roman keep the Shield gear and music because the Shield were over.

Emperor Smeat 10-27-2020 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5384703)
Did vince himself tell you that Smeat? Because he literally never looked flabby.

I remember one photo he took with the rock where he didn't look ripped but the camera can play funny tricks. In fact, it's from the shoot that xrod posted where he actually looks jacked.

Flabby was a poor choice of words but more of him lacking Vince's ideal chiseled look for a mega star.

That film shoot was done while he was away the first time because of leukemia and used his free time to get jacked up for filming purposes.

Reigns also mentioned in a recent interview that his current look is because he spent the past several months just working out so he could get jacked for his new persona and shirtless look.

xrodmuc316 10-27-2020 06:25 PM

When Seth turned on them they ripped Roman's vest off for the beatdown, and he was pretty huge then, and essentially that is when the Shield ended. Seth and Dean got new gear and music. I think Roman kept all the Shield stuff like Vito said, because that's what Vince wanted, not cause Roman wasn't jacked in 2014.

Destor 10-27-2020 06:31 PM

yes

XL 10-27-2020 07:08 PM

I can imagine the lack of travel also helps. The guys can spend more time in the gym/aren’t always knackered from dragging their ass across the country.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-27-2020 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5384900)
When Seth turned on them they ripped Roman's vest off for the beatdown, and he was pretty huge then, and essentially that is when the Shield ended. Seth and Dean got new gear and music. I think Roman kept all the Shield stuff like Vito said, because that's what Vince wanted, not cause Roman wasn't jacked in 2014.

For once, we are on the same page.

Also, I’ve no doubt Roman got in extra extra good shape for his heel run given his new look. But he’d need to be 95 percent there already to get to this point in that time off.

After all, Roman wasn’t built in a day :lol:

teamXtremist 10-27-2020 07:59 PM

Women were still creaming themselves,so no

XL 10-28-2020 05:15 PM

Still in the long trousers though. Has he been skipping Leg Day?

RP 10-28-2020 06:38 PM

I'd lick my own nut off his abs

xrodmuc316 10-28-2020 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5384922)
I can imagine the lack of travel also helps. The guys can spend more time in the gym/aren’t always knackered from dragging their ass across the country.

I've long thought they should have scaled way back on live events. WWE House shows are great, once or twice just to experience it, but after that why wouldn't you just wait for a Raw or PPV if you want to see it live?

Destor 10-29-2020 12:21 AM

going to a tv taping is fucking stupid. most tv eps are anticlimatic builds to something better. ppvs are obviously top tier but house shows are easily 2nd place. the matches you see are the guys working out what the ppv matches are going to look like. if you like rasslin house shows are great.

RP 10-29-2020 11:20 PM

I just want to rub my cock against Romans and see if we can start a cum fire.

XL 10-30-2020 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5384922)
I can imagine the lack of travel also helps. The guys can spend more time in the gym/aren’t always knackered from dragging their ass across the country.

Looking at Pete Dunne I’d say I pretty spot on with this.

Helmsphere 10-30-2020 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5385439)
going to a tv taping is fucming stuoid. most tv eps are anticlimatic builds to something better. ppvs are obviously too tier but house shows are easily 2nd place. the matches you see are the guys working out what the ppv matches are going to look like. if you like rasslin house shows are great.

This is true. I went to a Smackdown house show back in 2002. There was a Val Venus and Chris Jericho match that ended up having the same finish a few weeks later on TV a King of The Ring Tournament matchup and basically Hurricane v Jamie Noble played out the same except They changed the ending to Noble winning at the PPV.

Seanny One Ball 10-31-2020 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5385439)
going to a tv taping is fucming stuoid.


Easy for you to say

RP 10-31-2020 12:53 PM

I want Roman Reigns to stretch his ball sack over my face and waterboard me with his piss.

Kenny Powers 12-04-2020 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5384764)
Oh yeah plus Vince was hellbent on having Roman keep the Shield gear and music because the Shield were over.

This is the correct answer.

Kenny Powers 12-04-2020 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 5386142)
I want Roman Reigns to stretch his ball sack over my face and waterboard me with his piss.

I felt the same way about Test and Albert back in 2000.

Supreme Olajuwon 02-05-2021 08:27 PM

Another 3 months into the future and this is more true than ever. What a Samoan God

Damian Rey 2.0 02-05-2021 09:10 PM

He looked like he was chiseled outta stone at the Rumble. What a blunder.

Seanny One Ball 02-06-2021 05:57 AM

Put your cocks away

slik 02-06-2021 10:53 PM

He looks way better w/o the shirt

Mr. Nerfect 02-08-2021 03:48 PM

Yeah, it possibly is. It’s got nothing to do with him being Samoan though. Don’t let Smeat tell you that. The WWE tried to do a similar thing with John Cena and Jim Barnett had to jump in and ask why they were making this dude cover up.

It’s possibly a Vince thing. I don’t know why. Vince never appeared shirtless all that much either, when you think about it. It’s possible he sees it easier to market an “action hero” that way. Maybe he thinks little boys and little girls won’t be allowed to play with dolls of men who don’t wear shirts? Maybe he just thinks it’s more like a movie/TV show if his hero has a “uniform?”

But I’d be willing to bet on zany Vince McMahon ideas than the guy Vince has decided to push being too soft. You do know Vince didn’t have to choose him, right?


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