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toxic rooster 06-14-2004 07:25 AM

Football Talk 2004/2005
 
On the advice of Paranoid Rattlesnake, I've started a new thread for this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paranoid Rattlesnake
Can we start a new topic now for the premiership 2004/2005 season???

Just that this topic is taking the piss now

I'd do it but I don't want people saying we've already got a topic

Also, instead of calling it "Premiership Talk", I called it "Football Talk", so as to include MMM, Wengerland etc.

Continue discussing.

The Mask 06-14-2004 07:39 AM

you're going to have all the yanks getting confused now, poor darlings.

toxic rooster 06-14-2004 07:41 AM

So what should I do, change it to "soccer talk"?

<marquee direction=right>:rofl:</marquee>

Paranoid Rattlesnake 06-14-2004 07:42 AM

We've already got one of these threads, What the hell did you think you where doing.

:shifty:

The Mask 06-14-2004 07:46 AM

I'm looking forward to this one, cause if history has it's way, we should win this time round.

toxic rooster 06-14-2004 07:56 AM

Are you making light of our inability to defend our title?

Or the fact that we'll probably win the Com Shield, which a team has never won the Premiership after winning in like 190742184259072905723 years?

Or the fact that we're shedding all of our B grade strikers, and if Henry gets injured we're screwed?

The Mask 06-14-2004 08:48 AM

probably, yes.

Cactus Sid 06-14-2004 10:22 AM

Everyone knows its Liverpool's year.



:'(

Disturbed316 06-14-2004 11:02 AM

BRIGHTON TO WIN 'THE CHAMPIONSHIP'

:roll:*

Seriously, what a shit name :nono:

*= :roll: at the name championship, not the fact Brighton will win it :D

Dazz 06-14-2004 11:32 AM

Chelsea for the title, GO BLUES!!!

Tony Montana 06-14-2004 12:13 PM

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/index.php?page_id=3763

GOD DAMMIT.....

Dazz 06-14-2004 12:28 PM

Hey Tony, no one cares about Everton.

Dazz 06-14-2004 12:56 PM

Oh I just realised I can talk about South American Football here, anyone watch the Copa Liberdatores? Boca played River Plater in the semi finals, well, I was knackered so I recorded it and have only watched the first half. The ref sent off THREE players in the first half, one of them was kinda a sending off, one was a booking (Gallardo), and one guy (the Boca guy) did nothing at all and got sent off. Gallardo tripped up the Boca player (Cincardi or something) and the Cincardi got up and squared up to him, Gallardo didn't exactly go for a headbutt but I suppose it could have been veiwed as that, so he should have got a booking for it, and the ref ran over at this point and sent them both off. Then there was a BIG ruck where Boca and River plate officials came on the pitch, Boca's keeper got punched round the back of the head and scratched a few times in the face, this River Plate coach was on the floor for like five minutes after being punched, it was pretty funny to watch.

Rob 06-14-2004 02:44 PM

The season hasn't even got going yet. Wait until we kill off the Euro 2004 and last seasons Premiership thread first.

Wengerland 06-14-2004 03:24 PM

Yeah,just use this for predicting and stuff until Euro 2004 has finished.

Mr. Monday Morning 06-14-2004 03:53 PM

Yessssssssssssssss Paul Butler is off to Leeds :yes: :love:

Rob Ban Fan 06-14-2004 04:44 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">C'MON POMPEY

you'll pay for that :@</font>

Wengerland 06-14-2004 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
Yessssssssssssssss Paul Butler is off to Leeds :yes: :love:

So is Joachim :'(

Forest are pricing Williams out of that move here,the bastards.:mad: They're said to want a minimum of about £3 million,and would expect that if it went to a tribunal. :rant:

Radzinski has had a transfer request rejected too.

Rob Ban Fan 06-14-2004 04:57 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">would they get that if you took it to a tribunal though? Because that sounds like a huge amount.

When we signed Matty Taylor Luton kicked up a big fuss and we took it to a tribunal and got him for £400,000 rising depending on appearances. And we just signed Jamie Ashdown from Reading and it looks like they're only going to get around £250,000 compensation for him.</font>

Oxstar 06-15-2004 03:01 AM

Who reckons Crystal Palace will avoid relegation? I think we're going down but I can keep my fingers crossed and hope we survive.

toxic rooster 06-15-2004 03:17 AM

I think Norwich will stay up, and maybe West Brom.

I think Palace have no chance, sorry oxstar :(

Also, CHANGE YOUR AVATAR RBF :'(

toxic rooster 06-15-2004 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
The season hasn't even got going yet. Wait until we kill off the Euro 2004 and last seasons Premiership thread first.

This was Paranoid Rattlesnake's idea, not mine.

Rob Ban Fan 06-15-2004 03:12 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">I personally think West Brom are the most likely to stay up from what ive seen so far. You cant reall say until you see who everyone buys but right now West Brom seem to be tightening up the defence plus they also have experience on their side after their previous season in the premiership. They also seem to realise this time that they need to buy to have a chance.

Most Norwich fans from what ive seen seem to think they just need a couple of players and it'll be enough to keep them up. They all seem happy with the Bentley signing and along with Huckerby and Green think they have a good chance. While Bentley could be a decent signing, he's in experienced and Pennant, who is better wasn't enough to keep Leeds up even with their better players.

Even if Huckerby did score a few in div 1, i still dont think he's good enough for the premiership. And while Green may be a good young keeper, look at how Matt Murray did when he played. So they'll need a lot more than that.</font>

LK 06-17-2004 05:22 PM

Palace don't have achance of staying up. Norwich will need to sign some more Premiership quality players because people like Huckerby are just good 1st division players. I also think that West Brom will go down unless they also sign more quality players. But then again they will have experience and they will realise that they have to spend to stay up so maybe they will be alright. As far as the winners of the Premiership is concerned Manchester United will win the title back. BTW I have serious doubts about Leeds United coming back to the Premiership in just one season.

toxic rooster 06-17-2004 07:52 PM

Leeds are screwed, nobody's denying that.

I said it once, I'll say it again - it's worrying me that we've let Wiltord, Kanu and Bentley leave (well Bentley is coming back, but you get the idea).

I'm not sure if Jeffers or Pennant are coming back, but it worries me that in the coming season, we'll be relying on Henry too much for goals. And if he gets injured, we may well be screwed :rant:

Skeletor2 06-18-2004 10:58 AM

Newcastle are on the verge of completing a season long loan of Mido from Marseille with the option of buying him later, according to Mido himself on Egyptianplayers.com

Dazz 06-18-2004 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wee Gooner
Leeds are screwed, nobody's denying that.

I said it once, I'll say it again - it's worrying me that we've let Wiltord, Kanu and Bentley leave (well Bentley is coming back, but you get the idea).

I'm not sure if Jeffers or Pennant are coming back, but it worries me that in the coming season, we'll be relying on Henry too much for goals. And if he gets injured, we may well be screwed :rant:

It's not worrying, Wiltord and Kanu are shit. Bentley needs to get some experience first where he will play all the time. Jeffers is shit alot of the time, you don't need him, and he dives. You have Henry, Bergkamp, Reyes and Alliediere to get goals, quit trippin, Wenger did the right thing. If you don't win the league it's nothing to do with those transfers you have just mentioned.

Wengerland 06-18-2004 11:32 AM

Plus there's Van Persie aswell,though its likely that Wenger will keep him as a left winger.

Everton want £45 million if they're to sell Rooney.

Ricky 06-18-2004 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disturbed316
BRIGHTON TO WIN 'THE CHAMPIONSHIP'

:roll:*

Seriously, what a shit name :nono:

*= :roll: at the name championship, not the fact Brighton will win it :D

:foc:

Did you go to the play-off final?

toxic rooster 06-19-2004 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazz
Jeffers is shit alot of the time, you don't need him, and he dives.

Works for van Nistelrooy :o. And Ashley Cole, for that matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazz
You have Henry, Bergkamp, Reyes and Alliediere to get goals

Bergkamp is aging, Reyes is more of an attacking midfielder and Aliadiere is probably a bit underdone - especially when he gets put in the situation of being out for several months with an injury and gets thrown straight back in the deep end, like the FA cup semi-final.

When we threw it away last time, all the doomsayers were crapping on about our over-reliance on Henry. This past season he was deadset on fire, but I can't see his good form lasting another whole season for Arsenal. Backed up with Reyes, Bergkamp and Aliadiere, it worries me.

toxic rooster 06-19-2004 03:01 AM

Trying not to take Arsenal's great form for granted, but it's hard :mad:

toxic rooster 06-19-2004 10:08 AM

OK, I know it's a bit off what I was saying, but I'd like some of you guys' views on this.

What is your take on Wenger's selective blindness, the whole "I didn't see the incident" side of things.

I'm not sure that it's such a bad thing as people give him shit for - it prevents him from being in a position to say something stupid.

Thoughts?

Rob 06-19-2004 11:44 AM

He needs thicker glasses.

Dazz 06-19-2004 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wee Gooner
Bergkamp is aging, Reyes is more of an attacking midfielder and Aliadiere is probably a bit underdone - especially when he gets put in the situation of being out for several months with an injury and gets thrown straight back in the deep end, like the FA cup semi-final.

When we threw it away last time, all the doomsayers were crapping on about our over-reliance on Henry. This past season he was deadset on fire, but I can't see his good form lasting another whole season for Arsenal. Backed up with Reyes, Bergkamp and Aliadiere, it worries me.

What the hell are you on about, Reyes is a great attacker, he won you the game Vs Chelsea in the F.A cup and I was more afraid of him then Henry after that, the guy is great. Bergkamp still can produce the magic though, and Alliadiere needs experience which he will get this year.

Mr. Monday Morning 06-19-2004 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wee Gooner
OK, I know it's a bit off what I was saying, but I'd like some of you guys' views on this.

What is your take on Wenger's selective blindness, the whole "I didn't see the incident" side of things.

I'm not sure that it's such a bad thing as people give him shit for - it prevents him from being in a position to say something stupid.

Thoughts?

It's more or less the same thing most managers do. He just uses the same line over and over and over again though and so people have ridiculed him for it (can't say as I blame them).

At least he does speak to the press most of the time instead of throwing a fit when something doesn't go his way *cough*FERGUSON*cough*

As for Reyes, you watch him this coming season. If he plays regularly, he will most likely be awesome now he's had some time to adjust.

Danny Electric 06-19-2004 06:04 PM

Gerrard won't go to Chelsea this season.
If we do badly this season I see both him and Owen leaving for the season after.

Rob 06-19-2004 08:07 PM

If Lampard is talking about it then I'd guess he and Gerrard have spoken so there has to be some truth to it.

Danny Electric 06-19-2004 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
If Lampard is talking about it then I'd guess he and Gerrard have spoken so there has to be some truth to it.

I just think that depending on how well we do next season then he will leave.We've got Champions league football, if we go through the qualifying rounds, which might keep him happy for one season.
But if we mess up next season I see him going.

Rob 06-19-2004 08:15 PM

Nah I think a £35 million bid is gonna take him to Chelsea. Owen will probably leave on a Bosman next year.

Danny Electric 06-19-2004 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
Nah I think a £35 million bid is gonna take him to Chelsea. Owen will probably leave on a Bosman next year.

As a Liverpool fan I'd be upset if Gerrard goes and I hope he doesn't. But if he does then I'd like to applaud him for what he has given to the club.
Not going to be like those idiotic Leeds fans.

Rob 06-19-2004 08:39 PM

What if he went to Man United though?

Cactus Sid 06-19-2004 09:19 PM

He wont.

United wouldn't spend £35 million on him, and if Liverpool had an equal bid from Chelsea, they wouldn't accept it anyway.

OssMan 06-20-2004 01:43 AM

I'm rooting for Crystal Palace.

Rob 06-20-2004 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
He wont.

United wouldn't spend £35 million on him, and if Liverpool had an equal bid from Chelsea, they wouldn't accept it anyway.

That's not the point. My alter ego said he wouldn't treat him like the Leeds fans treated Smith so to get a fair comparison, I asked would he feel the same if Liverpool's best player went to United.

Oxstar 06-21-2004 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AssMan
I'm rooting for Crystal Palace.

Me too but Palace really need to buy about 4 or 5 decent players to have a real chance of staying up otherwise it's relegation back to div 1

Rob 06-21-2004 05:45 PM

They need 11 decent players. They don't have one player of Premiership quality. Wolves and Leicester had far stronger squads and went down this season. I can't see the three who came up standing a chance.

91 06-21-2004 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
They need 11 decent players. They don't have one player of Premiership quality. Wolves and Leicester had far stronger squads and went down this season. I can't see the three who came up standing a chance.

Well whilst the three of them would be favourites to go down, everyone was saying the same about Bradford - nobody in the squad who belongs in the Premiership etc etc, and they stayed up (for one season at least).

Wengerland 06-21-2004 06:12 PM

Thatcher has joined Man City, RBF won't be pleased with him:$

City have also signed De Villeger, the Belgian keeper.

Rob Ban Fan 06-21-2004 06:24 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">oh well, if he didn't want to play for us he can piss off, not interested in uncommited players. Still annoyed he messed us around like that though.

de Zeeuw, Stefanovic, Primus and Taylor > Thatcher</font>

Danny Electric 06-21-2004 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
That's not the point. My alter ego said he wouldn't treat him like the Leeds fans treated Smith so to get a fair comparison, I asked would he feel the same if Liverpool's best player went to United.

I'd feel the same, he played his heart out for us this season and if he joined I'd be pissed off but i applaud him for the service he has given us.

Wengerland 06-22-2004 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Ban Fan
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">oh well, if he didn't want to play for us he can piss off, not interested in uncommited players. Still annoyed he messed us around like that though.

de Zeeuw, Stefanovic, Primus and Taylor > Thatcher</font>

To be fair, he is guaranteed first team football at Man City, what with Tarnat leaving, and he would have had to compete with Taylor at Pompey.

Wengerland 06-23-2004 10:29 AM

Portsmouth and Everton have had offers of £450,000 for Marcus Bent accepted. He'd be a great buy for either of them.

Oxstar 06-23-2004 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWEngland
Portsmouth and Everton have had offers of £450,000 for Marcus Bent accepted. He'd be a great buy for either of them.

I would love Marcus Bent to come back to Palace we only sold him cause we was broke

Oxstar 06-23-2004 02:08 PM

Everton boss David Moyes has made his first foray into the transfer market by signing striker Marcus Bent from Ipswich on a three-year deal.

Bent, who spent last season on loan at Leicester, scored 10 goals for the Foxes last season, including a last-minute equaliser against Everton at the Walkers Stadium in March.

Manager David Moyes beat off competition from Portsmouth and West Brom for his signature.

Everton agreed a fee in the region of £450,000 with Ipswich on Tuesday allowing Bent to complete a medical on Merseyside on Wednesday before putting pen to paper. He will officially join the club on July 1.

Moyes claimed Bent's versatility in attack was a major reason they were interested in bringing the former Blackburn Rovers man to Goodison Park.

He told the club website: "We're delighted to have Marcus.

"He'll give an added dimension to the squad because he can play up front and he can play wide right. He's a good age and he's a price at this present time we could afford.

"He's got athleticism, he's quick, he's good in the air and we'll be looking to fit him in the squad. I'm intending bringing in more players and hopefully Marcus is only the first of many.''

Wengerland 06-23-2004 02:10 PM

Yeah, him and Rooney would be a goods front line, if they get rid of Radzinski.

Oxstar 06-23-2004 02:16 PM

Ok so now I'm seriously pissed off, Julian Gray has left Palace and joined Birmingham on a 3 year contract, he must be fucking stupid he isn't gonna get a game at Birmingham where as at Palace he would have been 1st choice, I can't wait to see him rot in their reserves. Hopefully Palace will try and buy Matt Etherington off West Ham to replace Gray.

Oxstar 06-23-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWEngland
Yeah, him and Rooney would be a goods front line, if they get rid of Radzinski.

I reckon Radzinski will go to Fulham and Rooney to Chelsea, Bent can play upfront with Ferguson.

Early prediction : Everton to be relegated if they sell Rooney

Rob 06-23-2004 02:23 PM

They have James McFadden and they signed that lump of sh</>ite?

Oxstar 06-23-2004 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
They have James McFadden and they signed that lump of sh</>ite?

Oh shit yeah I forgot they had James McFadden he seems to be quite good

Doink 06-23-2004 03:13 PM

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

in case you didnt work it out im slightly happy that rickets is leaving


i heard a roumour that leeds are only buying him as he's the only thing they could find thats bigger than their debts

ouch

sorry leeds fans, not jus about the debt joke but for the fact you now have ricketts anyway back as i was now -

:'( we signed ricketts, :) he scored a goal (once) :nono: :mad: :foc: how i felt about him while with us :) hears leeds roumours :) :D hears that they are in talks :lol: :rofl: :p :rofl: he has signed subject to medical

Wengerland 06-23-2004 03:31 PM

Yeah,i'm not really worried about Leeds for next year, though Sheffield United have made same buys who look good for The Championship - Hayles, Harley, Liddell (Wigans record scorer), Quinn and Bromby (from Sheff Wed).

Oxstar 06-23-2004 07:23 PM

Michael Ricketts to Leeds? he might be really good in Div 1, anyway I fucking hate Leeds

El Capitano Gatisto 06-23-2004 07:29 PM

He was great in the first division for Bolton.

Dazz 06-23-2004 07:30 PM

Remember the time he played for England :rofl:

Oxstar 06-23-2004 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazz
Remember the time he played for England :rofl:

I know he played for England, I remember he only played once and didnt really do anything. Why don't you remind us all Dazz, I really wanna hear some more Ricketts piss taking:D

Frank Grimes Jnr 06-24-2004 03:02 AM

Wayne Rooney is so fucken overrated!!!!!
50 million pounds my arse. I wouldn't pay him 50 pounds unless he lost 50 pounds.
I know he carved up Croatia but thats for his country, not for his club.
He didn't nothing for Everton this year and to put that much of a price tag on his head is ridiculous.
During an Australian interview Martin Tyler said that he could say Wayne Rooneys name in the same breath as Pele, Maradona, Cruyff and Beckenbauer.
WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!!!!!!!

Frank Grimes Jnr 06-24-2004 03:03 AM

Excuse the spelling, I'm just really pissed off to check if I was grammatically correct.

Paranoid Rattlesnake 06-24-2004 06:10 AM

FIXTURES OUT TODAY BOYS

Paranoid Rattlesnake 06-24-2004 06:13 AM

Woo Hoo Man Utd vs Chelsea opening Day


Sat Aug 14 2004
Aston Villa v Southampton 15:00
Tottenham v Liverpool 15:00
Blackburn v West Brom 15:00
Bolton v Charlton 15:00
Chelsea v Man Utd 15:00
Everton v Arsenal 15:00
Man City v Fulham 15:00
Middlesbrough v Newcastle 15:00
Norwich v Crystal Palace 15:00
Portsmouth v Birmingham 15:00

Sat Aug 21 2004
Arsenal v Middlesbrough 15:00
West Brom v Aston Villa 15:00
Birmingham v Chelsea 15:00
Charlton v Portsmouth 15:00
Crystal Palace v Everton 15:00
Fulham v Bolton 15:00
Liverpool v Man City 15:00
Man Utd v Norwich 15:00
Newcastle v Tottenham 15:00
Southampton v Blackburn 15:00

Tue Aug 24 2004
Arsenal v Blackburn 19:45
Birmingham v Man City 19:45
Charlton v Aston Villa 19:45
Crystal Palace v Chelsea 19:45
West Brom v Tottenham 19:45

Wed Aug 25 2004
Fulham v Middlesbrough 19:45
Liverpool v Portsmouth 19:45
Man Utd v Everton 19:45
Newcastle v Norwich 19:45
Southampton v Bolton 19:45

Sat Aug 28 2004
Aston Villa v Newcastle 15:00
Tottenham v Birmingham 15:00
Blackburn v Man Utd 15:00
Bolton v Liverpool 15:00
Chelsea v Southampton 15:00
Everton v West Brom 15:00
Man City v Charlton 15:00
Middlesbrough v Crystal Palace 15:00
Norwich v Arsenal 15:00
Portsmouth v Fulham 15:00

Sat Sep 11 2004
Aston Villa v Chelsea 15:00
Tottenham v Norwich 15:00
Bolton v Man Utd 15:00
Charlton v Southampton 15:00
Fulham v Arsenal 15:00
Liverpool v West Brom 15:00
Man City v Everton 15:00
Middlesbrough v Birmingham 15:00
Newcastle v Blackburn 15:00
Portsmouth v Crystal Palace 15:00

Sat Sep 18 2004
Arsenal v Bolton 15:00
West Brom v Fulham 15:00
Birmingham v Charlton 15:00
Blackburn v Portsmouth 15:00
Chelsea v Tottenham 15:00
Crystal Palace v Man City 15:00
Everton v Middlesbrough 15:00
Man Utd v Liverpool 15:00
Norwich v Aston Villa 15:00
Southampton v Newcastle 15:00

Sat Sep 25 2004
Aston Villa v Crystal Palace 15:00
Tottenham v Man Utd 15:00
Bolton v Birmingham 15:00
Charlton v Blackburn 15:00
Fulham v Southampton 15:00
Liverpool v Norwich 15:00
Man City v Arsenal 15:00
Middlesbrough v Chelsea 15:00
Newcastle v West Brom 15:00
Portsmouth v Everton 15:00

Sat Oct 02 2004
Arsenal v Charlton 15:00
West Brom v Bolton 15:00
Birmingham v Newcastle 15:00
Blackburn v Aston Villa 15:00
Chelsea v Liverpool 15:00
Crystal Palace v Fulham 15:00
Everton v Tottenham 15:00
Man Utd v Middlesbrough 15:00
Norwich v Portsmouth 15:00
Southampton v Man City 15:00

Sat Oct 16 2004
Arsenal v Aston Villa 15:00
West Brom v Norwich 15:00
Birmingham v Man Utd 15:00
Blackburn v Middlesbrough 15:00
Bolton v Crystal Palace 15:00
Charlton v Newcastle 15:00
Everton v Southampton 15:00
Fulham v Liverpool 15:00
Man City v Chelsea 15:00
Portsmouth v Tottenham 15:00

Sat Oct 23 2004
Aston Villa v Fulham 15:00
Tottenham v Bolton 15:00
Chelsea v Blackburn 15:00
Crystal Palace v West Brom 15:00
Liverpool v Charlton 15:00
Man Utd v Arsenal 15:00
Middlesbrough v Portsmouth 15:00
Newcastle v Man City 15:00
Norwich v Everton 15:00
Southampton v Birmingham 15:00

Sat Oct 30 2004
Arsenal v Southampton 15:00
West Brom v Chelsea 15:00
Birmingham v Crystal Palace 15:00
Blackburn v Liverpool 15:00
Bolton v Newcastle 15:00
Charlton v Middlesbrough 15:00
Everton v Aston Villa 15:00
Fulham v Tottenham 15:00
Man City v Norwich 15:00
Portsmouth v Man Utd 15:00

Sat Nov 06 2004
Aston Villa v Portsmouth 15:00
Tottenham v Charlton 15:00
Chelsea v Everton 15:00
Crystal Palace v Arsenal 15:00
Liverpool v Birmingham 15:00
Man Utd v Man City 15:00
Middlesbrough v Bolton 15:00
Newcastle v Fulham 15:00
Norwich v Blackburn 15:00
Southampton v West Brom 15:00

Sat Nov 13 2004
Birmingham v Everton 15:00
West Brom v Middlesbrough 15:00
Bolton v Aston Villa 15:00
Charlton v Norwich 15:00
Fulham v Chelsea 15:00
Liverpool v Crystal Palace 15:00
Man City v Blackburn 15:00
Newcastle v Man Utd 15:00
Southampton v Portsmouth 15:00
Tottenham v Arsenal 15:00

Sat Nov 20 2004
Arsenal v West Brom 15:00
Portsmouth v Man City 15:00
Aston Villa v Tottenham 15:00
Blackburn v Birmingham 15:00
Chelsea v Bolton 15:00
Crystal Palace v Newcastle 15:00
Everton v Fulham 15:00
Man Utd v Charlton 15:00
Middlesbrough v Liverpool 15:00
Norwich v Southampton 15:00

Sat Nov 27 2004
Birmingham v Norwich 15:00
West Brom v Man Utd 15:00
Bolton v Portsmouth 15:00
Charlton v Chelsea 15:00
Fulham v Blackburn 15:00
Liverpool v Arsenal 15:00
Man City v Aston Villa 15:00
Newcastle v Everton 15:00
Southampton v Crystal Palace 15:00
Tottenham v Middlesbrough 15:00

Sat Dec 04 2004
Arsenal v Birmingham 15:00
Portsmouth v West Brom 15:00
Aston Villa v Liverpool 15:00
Blackburn v Tottenham 15:00
Chelsea v Newcastle 15:00
Crystal Palace v Charlton 15:00
Everton v Bolton 15:00
Man Utd v Southampton 15:00
Middlesbrough v Man City 15:00
Norwich v Fulham 15:00

Sat Dec 11 2004
Arsenal v Chelsea 15:00
West Brom v Charlton 15:00
Aston Villa v Birmingham 15:00
Crystal Palace v Blackburn 15:00
Everton v Liverpool 15:00
Fulham v Man Utd 15:00
Man City v Tottenham 15:00
Newcastle v Portsmouth 15:00
Norwich v Bolton 15:00
Southampton v Middlesbrough 15:00

Sat Dec 18 2004
Birmingham v West Brom 15:00
Tottenham v Southampton 15:00
Blackburn v Everton 15:00
Bolton v Man City 15:00
Charlton v Fulham 15:00
Chelsea v Norwich 15:00
Liverpool v Newcastle 15:00
Man Utd v Crystal Palace 15:00
Middlesbrough v Aston Villa 15:00
Portsmouth v Arsenal 15:00

Sun Dec 26 2004
Arsenal v Fulham 15:00
West Brom v Liverpool 15:00
Birmingham v Middlesbrough 15:00
Blackburn v Newcastle 15:00
Chelsea v Aston Villa 15:00
Crystal Palace v Portsmouth 15:00
Everton v Man City 15:00
Man Utd v Bolton 15:00
Norwich v Tottenham 15:00
Southampton v Charlton 15:00

Tue Dec 28 2004
Aston Villa v Man Utd 15:00
Tottenham v Crystal Palace 15:00
Bolton v Blackburn 15:00
Charlton v Everton 15:00
Fulham v Birmingham 15:00
Liverpool v Southampton 15:00
Man City v West Brom 15:00
Middlesbrough v Norwich 15:00
Newcastle v Arsenal 15:00
Portsmouth v Chelsea 15:00

Sat Jan 01 2005
Aston Villa v Blackburn 15:00
Tottenham v Everton 15:00
Bolton v West Brom 15:00
Charlton v Arsenal 15:00
Fulham v Crystal Palace 15:00
Liverpool v Chelsea 15:00
Man City v Southampton 15:00
Middlesbrough v Man Utd 15:00
Newcastle v Birmingham 15:00
Portsmouth v Norwich 15:00

Mon Jan 03 2005
Arsenal v Man City 15:00
West Brom v Newcastle 15:00
Birmingham v Bolton 15:00
Blackburn v Charlton 15:00
Chelsea v Middlesbrough 15:00
Crystal Palace v Aston Villa 15:00
Everton v Portsmouth 15:00
Man Utd v Tottenham 15:00
Norwich v Liverpool 15:00
Southampton v Fulham 15:00

Sat Jan 15 2005
Aston Villa v Norwich 15:00
Tottenham v Chelsea 15:00
Bolton v Arsenal 15:00
Charlton v Birmingham 15:00
Fulham v West Brom 15:00
Liverpool v Man Utd 15:00
Man City v Crystal Palace 15:00
Middlesbrough v Everton 15:00
Newcastle v Southampton 15:00
Portsmouth v Blackburn 15:00

Sat Jan 22 2005
Arsenal v Newcastle 15:00
West Brom v Man City 15:00
Birmingham v Fulham 15:00
Blackburn v Bolton 15:00
Chelsea v Portsmouth 15:00
Crystal Palace v Tottenham 15:00
Everton v Charlton 15:00
Man Utd v Aston Villa 15:00
Norwich v Middlesbrough 15:00
Southampton v Liverpool 15:00

Tue Feb 01 2005
Arsenal v Man Utd 19:45
Birmingham v Southampton 19:45
Bolton v Tottenham 19:45
Charlton v Liverpool 19:45
Portsmouth v Middlesbrough 19:45
West Brom v Crystal Palace 19:45

Wed Feb 02 2005
Blackburn v Chelsea 19:45
Everton v Norwich 19:45
Fulham v Aston Villa 19:45
Man City v Newcastle 19:45

Sat Feb 05 2005
Aston Villa v Arsenal 15:00
Tottenham v Portsmouth 15:00
Chelsea v Man City 15:00
Crystal Palace v Bolton 15:00
Liverpool v Fulham 15:00
Man Utd v Birmingham 15:00
Middlesbrough v Blackburn 15:00
Newcastle v Charlton 15:00
Norwich v West Brom 15:00
Southampton v Everton 15:00

Sat Feb 12 2005
Arsenal v Crystal Palace 15:00
West Brom v Southampton 15:00
Birmingham v Liverpool 15:00
Blackburn v Norwich 15:00
Bolton v Middlesbrough 15:00
Charlton v Tottenham 15:00
Everton v Chelsea 15:00
Fulham v Newcastle 15:00
Man City v Man Utd 15:00
Portsmouth v Aston Villa 15:00

Sat Feb 26 2005
Aston Villa v Everton 15:00
Tottenham v Fulham 15:00
Chelsea v West Brom 15:00
Crystal Palace v Birmingham 15:00
Liverpool v Blackburn 15:00
Man Utd v Portsmouth 15:00
Middlesbrough v Charlton 15:00
Newcastle v Bolton 15:00
Norwich v Man City 15:00
Southampton v Arsenal 15:00

Sat Mar 05 2005
Arsenal v Portsmouth 15:00
West Brom v Birmingham 15:00
Aston Villa v Middlesbrough 15:00
Crystal Palace v Man Utd 15:00
Everton v Blackburn 15:00
Fulham v Charlton 15:00
Man City v Bolton 15:00
Newcastle v Liverpool 15:00
Norwich v Chelsea 15:00
Southampton v Tottenham 15:00

Sat Mar 19 2005
Birmingham v Aston Villa 15:00
Tottenham v Man City 15:00
Blackburn v Arsenal 15:00
Bolton v Norwich 15:00
Charlton v West Brom 15:00
Chelsea v Crystal Palace 15:00
Liverpool v Everton 15:00
Man Utd v Fulham 15:00
Middlesbrough v Southampton 15:00
Portsmouth v Newcastle 15:00

Sat Apr 02 2005
Arsenal v Norwich 15:00
West Brom v Everton 15:00
Birmingham v Tottenham 15:00
Charlton v Man City 15:00
Crystal Palace v Middlesbrough 15:00
Fulham v Portsmouth 15:00
Liverpool v Bolton 15:00
Man Utd v Blackburn 15:00
Newcastle v Aston Villa 15:00
Southampton v Chelsea 15:00

Sat Apr 09 2005
Aston Villa v West Brom 15:00
Tottenham v Newcastle 15:00
Blackburn v Southampton 15:00
Bolton v Fulham 15:00
Chelsea v Birmingham 15:00
Everton v Crystal Palace 15:00
Man City v Liverpool 15:00
Middlesbrough v Arsenal 15:00
Norwich v Man Utd 15:00
Portsmouth v Charlton 15:00

Sat Apr 16 2005
Arsenal v Everton 15:00
West Brom v Blackburn 15:00
Birmingham v Portsmouth 15:00
Charlton v Bolton 15:00
Crystal Palace v Norwich 15:00
Fulham v Man City 15:00
Liverpool v Tottenham 15:00
Man Utd v Chelsea 15:00
Newcastle v Middlesbrough 15:00
Southampton v Aston Villa 15:00

Tue Apr 19 2005
Bolton v Southampton 19:45
Middlesbrough v Fulham 19:45
Norwich v Newcastle 19:45
Portsmouth v Liverpool 19:45

Wed Apr 20 2005
Aston Villa v Charlton 19:45
Blackburn v Crystal Palace 19:45
Chelsea v Arsenal 19:45
Everton v Man Utd 19:45
Man City v Birmingham 19:45
Tottenham v West Brom 19:45

Sat Apr 23 2005
Arsenal v Tottenham 15:00
Portsmouth v Southampton 15:00
Aston Villa v Bolton 15:00
Blackburn v Man City 15:00
Chelsea v Fulham 15:00
Crystal Palace v Liverpool 15:00
Everton v Birmingham 15:00
Man Utd v Newcastle 15:00
Middlesbrough v West Brom 15:00
Norwich v Charlton 15:00

Sat Apr 30 2005
Birmingham v Blackburn 15:00
West Brom v Arsenal 15:00
Bolton v Chelsea 15:00
Charlton v Man Utd 15:00
Fulham v Everton 15:00
Liverpool v Middlesbrough 15:00
Man City v Portsmouth 15:00
Newcastle v Crystal Palace 15:00
Southampton v Norwich 15:00
Tottenham v Aston Villa 15:00

Sat May 07 2005
Arsenal v Liverpool 15:00
Portsmouth v Bolton 15:00
Aston Villa v Man City 15:00
Blackburn v Fulham 15:00
Chelsea v Charlton 15:00
Crystal Palace v Southampton 15:00
Everton v Newcastle 15:00
Man Utd v West Brom 15:00
Middlesbrough v Tottenham 15:00
Norwich v Birmingham 15:00

Sat May 14 2005
Birmingham v Arsenal 15:00
West Brom v Portsmouth 15:00
Bolton v Everton 15:00
Charlton v Crystal Palace 15:00
Fulham v Norwich 15:00
Liverpool v Aston Villa 15:00
Man City v Middlesbrough 15:00
Newcastle v Chelsea 15:00
Southampton v Man Utd 15:00
Tottenham v Blackburn 15:00

toxic rooster 06-24-2004 07:35 AM

hmmm...Arsenal v ManYoo in early February :-\

Danny Electric 06-24-2004 08:13 AM

Ricketts learnt everything he knew at The Saddlers.

Wengerland 06-24-2004 10:45 AM

West Ham at home first day. :eek:

Then Derby :mad:

LK 06-24-2004 01:08 PM

Grimey Jr you took the words right out of my mouth. Rooney is good but he is never worth 50 million pounds. He had an average season last year. Comparing him to Pele or Maradonna is an insult to the both of them. Very few will ever come close to being as good as them and Wayne Rooney isn't one of them.

Danny Electric 06-24-2004 01:26 PM

Rooney did have an average season but he had an average team around him.
He's showing that with quality players around him how good he can play.

Mr. Monday Morning 06-24-2004 01:39 PM

Chelsea rumoured (according to the Daily Mail anyway) to be preparing a bid of £20m PLUS Duff AND Parker for Gerrard.

Dunno...to be honest I think that's way more than Gerrard is worth. I'd say it's a good deal for Liverpool (if true)

Danny Electric 06-24-2004 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
Chelsea rumoured (according to the Daily Mail anyway) to be preparing a bid of £20m PLUS Duff AND Parker for Gerrard.

Dunno...to be honest I think that's way more than Gerrard is worth. I'd say it's a good deal for Liverpool (if true)

Sky News and Eurosport New were talking about it.
I'm still debating in my head what I would want to happen. As much as I love Stevie G, money plus Duff and Parker sounds good.

Mr. Monday Morning 06-24-2004 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWEngland
West Ham at home first day. :eek:

Then Derby :mad:

August
Sat 7 15:00 A Stoke City
Tue 10 19:45 H Preston
Sat 14 15:00 H Leeds United
Sat 21 15:00 A Burnley
Sat 28 15:00 H Leicester City
Mon 30 15:00 A Ipswich Town

Oh my Wengerland :o

Danny Electric 06-24-2004 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
August
Sat 7 15:00 A Stoke City
Tue 10 19:45 H Preston
Sat 14 15:00 H Leeds United
Sat 21 15:00 A Burnley
Sat 28 15:00 H Leicester City
Mon 30 15:00 A Ipswich Town

Oh my Wengerland :o

Good to see some nice northern teams there, well apart from Ipswich.

Dazz 06-24-2004 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
Chelsea rumoured (according to the Daily Mail anyway) to be preparing a bid of £20m PLUS Duff AND Parker for Gerrard.

Dunno...to be honest I think that's way more than Gerrard is worth. I'd say it's a good deal for Liverpool (if true)

There Chelsea website denies that either of them are going anywhere, to be honest I'm not fussed if they both leave. We don't need Parker and Duff is ALWAYS injured.

Dazz 06-24-2004 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Grimes Jnr
Wayne Rooney is so fucken overrated!!!!!
50 million pounds my arse. I wouldn't pay him 50 pounds unless he lost 50 pounds.
I know he carved up Croatia but thats for his country, not for his club.
He didn't nothing for Everton this year and to put that much of a price tag on his head is ridiculous.
During an Australian interview Martin Tyler said that he could say Wayne Rooneys name in the same breath as Pele, Maradona, Cruyff and Beckenbauer.
WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!!!!!!!

LOL its funny AND true. Plus you have a cool name.

:y:

Wengerland 06-24-2004 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
August
Sat 7 15:00 A Stoke City
Tue 10 19:45 H Preston
Sat 14 15:00 H Leeds United
Sat 21 15:00 A Burnley
Sat 28 15:00 H Leicester City
Mon 30 15:00 A Ipswich Town

Oh my Wengerland :o

;)

I bet they put Leicester/West Ham and Derby/Leeds on TV for the opening day.

Mr. Monday Morning 06-24-2004 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWEngland
;)

I bet they put Leicester/West Ham and Derby/Leeds on TV for the opening day.

Stoke/Wolves is a match for kings :mad:

Doink 06-24-2004 08:18 PM

stockdale has signed for rotherham, ricketts hasnt passed medical yet so that doesnt look good (bet the fat f**k fails), i read he'd scored 4 goals in 38 games for us good i bet the championship defenders are running scared from him!

im trying to think of the goals ricketts scored for us, i think 1 was in 03/04 season, 1 against spurs in cup and 2 penacs in cup after extra time!

sorry but he is atrousious & i feel sorry for leeds as roumour has it cadimartri & joachim will battle it out for a starting place along side ricketts. if ricketts is a first choice leeds are in serious trouble, the guy came back early for pre season last year to lose weight & claim a first team place, come christmas he still hadnt got into the side & at that time we had maccerone & job out injured along with christie. he is really bad, we paid something like 3.8m for him & are giving him away, what does that tell you ? (apart from we were ripped off when we bought him)

Doink 06-24-2004 08:19 PM

also im pissed off as im on holiday for first game against the geordies, not happy!

Oxstar 06-25-2004 01:08 PM

Why have they changed the word division to league? that's so gay. Palace vs Norwich what a shit game for Palace to start with, feels like we're still in division 1

Dazz 06-25-2004 01:20 PM

Its now the Championship I think, and the Coca Cola division One is the old Nationwide Division two.

Oxstar 06-25-2004 01:34 PM

Yeah it's the Premiership then championship then league 1 then league 2. I think that's how it is, why did they bother to change it?

Dazz 06-25-2004 01:41 PM

I don't know, it sounds stupid as hell

Wengerland 06-25-2004 02:09 PM

Yeah you've got The Championship,League One and then League Two. I think its to help glorify the lower leagues, mainly Division 1, because the football is pretty good there.

That said, we've just signed Danny Tiatto :$ :(

Ferocious 06-25-2004 02:25 PM

Middlesbrough vs Newcastle at the Riverside first game at home. I'm so glad I chose this year to but my first ever season ticket.

Doink 06-25-2004 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferocious
Middlesbrough vs Newcastle at the Riverside first game at home. I'm so glad I chose this year to but my first ever season ticket.

:y: :wave: :D WE HAVE ANOTHER 1 CONVERTED :y:

Ferocious 06-25-2004 03:40 PM

so rep me for it bitch ;)

Doink 06-26-2004 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferocious
so rep me for it bitch ;)

:lol: it is done, where abouts will you be sitting or havent they told you yet?

Rob Ban Fan 06-26-2004 09:58 AM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">didnt some guy get banned from the Riverside for falling asleep during a match? :o</font>

91 06-26-2004 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Ban Fan
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">didnt some guy get banned from the Riverside for falling asleep during a match? :o</font>

Yeah - it wouldn't have been a problem, except that it was the Boro' goalkeeper.

Dazz 06-26-2004 10:40 AM

lol^

Doink 06-26-2004 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Ban Fan
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">didnt some guy get banned from the Riverside for falling asleep during a match? :o</font>

yes, this was covered in the orignal thread but the guy fell asleep as had been on nights, had a pint before the game and fell asleep.

they banned him for being intoxicated at a sporting arena.

Doink 06-26-2004 12:38 PM

Dazz i will try but middlesbrough is what i know best

Wengerland 06-27-2004 09:07 AM

Smertin has decided to stay and fight for his place at Chelsea by the looks of things.

Leicester have signed McAteer on a free :-\

Rob Ban Fan 06-27-2004 09:49 AM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Smertin :'( Oh well, ill forgive him because he's such a legend. I hope he makes it cos he's a top bloke and not an over rated cheating French cunt like that Makelele wanker.

Plus i spose this means Gary O'Neil will get a chance. Apparently Palace want to take him on loan though :'(

McAteer will do a job for you. From what i heard, the only reason Sunderland let him go was because they couldn't afford to keep him on. He still has a lot to offer.</font>


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