Hawkeye (Disney+ series)
 

Let's do this, boys and girls! https://i.imgur.com/kKwwDEH.gif

Definitely interested in the next episode. I don't know if it's the perfect choice but this is great casting for Kate Bishop. It seems a bit rash for her at the beginning of the first episode to come to the conclusion that she should do what she ends up doing but that's comics for you. Jeremy Renner can do this in his sleep at this point and where the character is at this point in his life is completely understandable. The Captain America musical didn't disappoint as it's spectacularly awful in the all the best ways. All in all I'm glad these episodes tackled the few questions that I had. I don't know if this will end up being the best of the Disney+ shows this year but so far, so good.

Captain America musical? good god I'm glad I missed that.

You only get a taste of it while Clint is watching it with his family but it's so ridiculous and you imagine that the rest of it would also be hilariously bad.

Are they going with a deaf Hawkeye, or did they get rid of that too?

Don't let destor hear you say that.

No, they address that.

I don't care who hears it. It's awful and I am Noiding it by not watching/hearing it and knowing how shit it is.

How so? Feel free to spoiler tag it. I most likely won't watch, as I don't get a lot of time for TV watching anyhoo.

It's not really a spoiler element. He's at the point where he's wearing a hearing aid. They don't specify the cause but he is essentially deaf.

I do like that she kinda sucks as a vigilante except she's still at the very least 'Robin' for no other reason than she really really wants to be a superhero. A lot of her generation are written this way with no real call to action that the archetypical hero tends to have. What's saving her from being a straight up Mary Sue is she takes a surprising amount of bumps to the point of slapstick. And Hackeye is not letting her one up him, the Avenger super spy, on pretty much anything.

The one thing that bothers me is she could be a fairly decent street level vigilante right this moment. I believe there's more to being a superhero than being a really good crossover athlete.

The Russians(?) being kinda silly idiots makes me feel bad about the fact that Clint mercilessly slaughtered them during the Snap'd years.

Her step father-to-be has rediculous hair and mustache and accent and he just comes off like a terrible Bond villain. I can't believe he's in a 2021 superhero show. It's so over the top there's definitely a swerve there.

Hailey Steinfeld is a very pretty white girl.

Watched it. Ambivalent to it. Entertained I guess.

I turned it on and within minutes I was on my phone...

Not good at all. The humour is particularly cloying, there’s a really unnatural level of false excitement about it...

I don’t know who thought it was necessary to make it, but it sucks.

enjoyed ep 1, will watch ep 2 later...wish I had an expensive penthouse

always happy to see vera farmiga in things

I would do glorious things to Vera Farmiga's even more glorious cooch.

I don't know who that is.

She's playing Kate's mother in this series.

Seen better milfs.

She looks like hell in it...

Loving the dynamic between Kate and Clint in the newest episode. The origin bit at the beginning might seem a bit cliché but it's kind of touching and answers a lot. Nice touch with the hand. Of course we get the obligatory "Oh, me wearing the actual comic costume would be dumb" bit but the car chase is certainly the highlight.

Yeah the action was good. You kinda forget that Hawkeye is terrifying against regular dudes.

Looks like Hank likes at least one Avenger.

The best part about it is that they've established that she's pretty shit at drawing, at least veering somewhat from the "oh, look, I'm good at everything" trope. She can make with the archery and kinda hold her own in a fight, but then her stealth is so-so, her spying is amateur level, though you can see she kinda gets the concept of blending in, but not really.

Finally started watching this (truthfully, forgot it started). I don't give a fuck what any of you say, I'd be interested if they made a full production of "Rogers: The Musical" One-Shot style.

It's a balancing act that they're having to do in regards to Kate. If she's going to be mentored then she has to be lacking in areas; but at the same time she has to be worth mentoring. It's not like Clint is going to take one of random fanboy LARPers under his wing. So she has to inexperienced enough while being promising enough.

Because of course...

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For some reason, I was compelled to listen to this, then follow it up with "A Man's Gotta Do" from Dr. Horrible.

So episode 4.... https://i.imgur.com/Uy5jjrG.gif

There's actually a lot to tackle in this episode. I don't know how they're going to wrap this up neatly with just two more episodes to go.

Probably the best eps so far.

I like how they could flash back to Vormeer with just some musical cues....

A retroactively powerful motivation for why Natasha did what she did. She most def looked her up after IW. And all her scenes in Endgame are recontextualized.

Like I said before there's a lot to unpack in the remaining time available to the series. The last episode is probably going to be loaded as shit.

Netflix shows are not canon. That's that.

Boo. :n:

Huh...looked it up and they apparently still count the Netflix shows as part of the MCU.

I don't know where you're looking that up but I'm 100% certain based on interviews, various comments, and observation of Disney with their casting - Netflix Defenders saga is not canon. Didn't happen. The only MCU tv show that survived was Peggy Carter. Post Disney+ all the shows are canon.

They will certainly use fan favorite casting like DD and most likely Fisk but there won't be, for instance, mention of Elektra or Bullseye.

Feige is still speaking as if it's all one banner. The only issue was the waiting period Marvel Studios had to go through after the Netflix deal was up. He's brought up the difficulty of the films referencing the shows because of the scheduling conflicts plus it wouldn't make sense since the shows deal with smaller issues. The shows bring up MCU stuff from time-to-time so I'm going to stick with what Feige is saying.

I also remember Charlie Cox saying he and some of the other Marvel Television actors had obligations to appear in the MCU films if asked. I thought that would have been cool around the time of Civil War, like say Matt Murdock had to defend some anti-registration hero or something.

But we're getting ahead of ourselves. Definitely hoping next week's episode ends 2021 on a high note. The Eternals has really been the only stumbling block for Marvel this year.

Shang Chi was surprisingly good. Black Widow was eh. Didn't see Eternals, waiting for that to launch on Disney+ next month.

The biggest banger for me was What If. Amazing show. Spider-Man will cause a lot of buzz but it's kind of a cheat in the canon sense.

I don’t think the Netflix shows are canon. They had options in contracts that they could exercise but chose not to do so, which is telling in itself. They’ll cherry pick casting choices I think. They also have the option to go “oh, that was Kingpin from another timeline”.

I'd say probably they are very Loose Canon. Like they won't bring it up, but won't really contradict it.... but also they won't continue it, like they won't explain what happened to Fisk and how he got out of prison again, he will just "be".

Odds are he got out during the snap

I was thinking about the characters who had been incarcerating before the snap, like Blonsky, Hammer, and especially Zemo when I saw that he was going to be in The Falcon and Winter Soldier. If they had been victims of the snap, too, that'd mean there would be a chance they'd use that to facilitate an escape. Of course, it would depend on where they were when it happened. I doubt things weren't as relaxed for Blonsky and Zemo as they were for Hammer.

But that elevator ride, though. :lol:

I highly doubt they killed him. And this version appears to be comic accurate and nothing short of a headshot will do it.

We need more Yelena.

I liked the series, but it feels the least vital of all the MCU shows thus far. It was good to see Vincent D'Onofrio as Kingpin again, and hopefully he is not wasted on this series only.

Yelena is scene stealing. Period. I need more of her. Love her dynamic with Kate.

Florence Pugh is a far stronger actress than Scarlet Johansson, and I could see her carrying a Black Widow series or film by herself.

I'm going to assume they will slowly phase out anything to do with the pre-Disney+ series, and those former shows will be (as someone has already mentioned) from another universe, etc.

Hawkeye season 2: Everything we know about a potential new season
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Marvel Studios' festive special entertained us all during the holidays in 2021, but what is the likelihood that we could see Hawkeye season 2?

Hawkeye was one of the great surprises for fans of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It's not that audiences weren't excited for it; it's just that there was little fanfare for this title leading up to its premiere. But when the trailer dropped and showcased the festive feast we were all in for, that excitement increased tenfold.

The Disney Plus show ultimately delivered, providing a fun holiday treat that gave Jeremy Renner's archer Avenger the long overdue spotlight he deserved, while also setting the stage for new archer-in-training Kate Bishop to take over.
But what does the future hold for this saga? Is there potential for a second season?

Hawkeye season 2 hasn't been renewed yet (but it also hasn't been cancelled)
Marvel has yet to announce if Hawkeye will return for a second season. The show concluded its first season run in December 2021 and there hasn't been any definitive confirmation on if it will return.

What has given fans hope that the show will return for a second season someday is the fact that Marvel campaigned for the show to receive Emmy consideration in the "Outstanding Comedy Series" category instead of the "Limited Series" category. This came after the studio marketed the show as a limited series, suggesting that it had changed its mind.

The vast majority of Marvel Studios shows to stream on Disney Plus are miniseries/limited series, but there are exceptions to that rule. Loki was the first of the shows to return for a second season, while animated outing What If…? is also returning for season 2 (and will also return for a third).

As far as whether that could actually happen for Hawkeye, director Rhys Thomas spoke to Collider in 2021 about the future of the show and revealed he would "gladly enjoy" returning for a second season if Marvel renewed it.

"I cannot speak to future plans in the tradition of secrecy. Again, the show coming out, you never know how it's going to be received and it has been amazing to see how warmly people have taken it and enjoyed it. And it's been great to see Hailee's character embraced and sort of land so firmly in the MCU. I sincerely look forward to where that character goes next. And yes, I loved walking on the streets of the MCU and would gladly enjoy doing it again."

Thomas acknowledges that fans quickly grew fond of Hailee Steinfeld's Kate Bishop and that is very much the case. Prior to the show's arrival, fans were ready to see Kate Bishop make her MCU debut and Steinfeld's performance endeared her to viewers very quickly.

Irrespective of whether we see Hailee Steinfeld back in Hawkeye season 2, it very much feels like this is only the beginning of Kate's stint in the MCU.

What would a potential second season of Hawkeye be about?
If Marvel Studios does opt to renew Hawkeye for a second season at some point, it's highly likely that it would shift gears from the first season. While the original six-episode run was very much a buddy comedy about Kate Bishop learning how to be a superhero from Hawkeye himself Clint Barton, season 2 would probably place the sole focus on Kate.

Remember, the closing moments of the finale saw Clint and Kate discussing potential codenames for the latter as she began her new superhero era and it was heavily implied that she would be taking over the mantle as the next Hawkeye. After all, Clint was bearing the wounds of a long war after saving the world so many times, so it seems that his days in the field are behind him.

Kate Bishop is a great character and the MCU has only just begun scratching the surface of what it could accomplish with her, so a potential Hawkeye season 2 would likely give her that long-awaited spotlight. It would also perhaps focus on her as she dealt with the fallout of her mother's arrest, her family's history, Clint's retirement, and maybe even start building towards a Young Avengers project.

Jeremy Renner would return as Hawkeye "in a heartbeat"
Jeremy Renner has been playing Clint Barton in the MCU for over a decade, making his first appearance as the archer in 2011's Thor. He went on to reprise that role in three Avengers movies, Captain America: Civil War , and What If…? before finally getting his long-awaited leading role in Disney Plus' Hawkeye series.

While that role was seemingly a swan song for the hero as an active Avenger, Renner would be open to returning to the role again. Speaking at the Phoenix Fan Fusion convention in summer 2023, he revealed that if Marvel wanted him to come back as Clint, he would do it "in a heartbeat".

The actor is recovering from a serious injury he suffered earlier this year, in which he was hit by a snowplow at his home. He has made incredible progress since then and fans have been wishing him well throughout the year.

If he were to return (either in a second season of the Disney Plus show or a separate project), it would likely be in a supporting role as a mentor to Kate or the Avengers given that Hawkeye has seemingly retired, but it goes without saying that we would love to see him back in his most iconic role.

A Hawkeye spinoff is coming to Disney Plus soon
While the future of Hawkeye itself remains unclear, one of the narrative threads that began in the series will be explored further in upcoming spinoff Echo. As the title probably already gives away, the series will star Alaqua Cox, who reprises her role as Maya Lopez (a.k.a. Echo), and it premieres on both Disney Plus and Hulu on January 10, 2024, with all five episodes landing at once.

Vincent D'Onofrio will also reprise his role as Wilson Fisk, a.k.a. the Kingpin, as the show is set to continue the struggle between the pair. When we last saw these two, Maya seemingly shot Fisk, but as the first trailer for Echo reveals, he is still alive (albeit with a patched-up eye).

The show is set to be the first Marvel Studios project to receive a TV-MA rating, launching a new chapter of more mature MCU stories. It's also expected to set up Daredevil: Born Again, as Charlie Cox will also reprise his role as Matt Murdock. a.k.a. Daredevil, reuniting with D'Onofrio's Kingpin for the first time since Netflix's Daredevil series came to an end.

That's everything we know about the potential second season of Hawkeye right now. Stay tuned for more updates and news about the future of the show and its characters!

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In other words, they don't really know anything, but I'm definitely down for more Kate Bishop.

Of course you are, you deviant!

Kate, Yelena, and Kamala are probably the best new things from this phase of the MCU.