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Vastardikai 09-21-2014 03:22 PM

I would have liked a bit where someone knocked on his door, and when he opened it, he got swarmed by a bunch of thugs.

Emperor Smeat 09-21-2014 03:36 PM

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SlickyTrickyDamon 09-21-2014 03:37 PM

HBK has a new challenger in the Oversell.

Seth82 09-21-2014 07:07 PM

CM Punk backstage last night at Living Colour's show in Chicago

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...a66021c4dea0a8

VSG 09-21-2014 07:45 PM

Cool King, this is for you:

Potentially nsfw


Jura 09-21-2014 08:55 PM

I'd say it's SFW but then again that cleavage is dangerous.

Seth82 09-21-2014 11:48 PM

Paul Bearer's son Michael has passed away.

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...8c&oe=548DEC7E

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I'm told that Michael Moody, the son of the late Paul Bearer aka William Moody/Percy Pringle, has passed away. My condolences to the family.</p>&mdash; Jim Ross (@JRsBBQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/JRsBBQ/status/513880860987109377">September 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Damian Rey 09-22-2014 02:51 AM

Christ that poor family.

Nicky Fives 09-22-2014 08:27 AM

which one is Michael?

Volare 09-22-2014 10:44 AM

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-w9wimCNEY8...nse-Lesnar.gif

Asmo 09-22-2014 11:09 AM

For those who are interested. Here's the segment we produced with Bad News Barrett. It's a lifestyle / entertainment capsule called 'Get A Life'.

SPOILER: show
<iframe src="//player.vimeo.com/video/106812260" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/106812260">Get A Life - 2014/09/19 - 'Bad News' Barrett</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user32569658">Animesh Das</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

Emperor Smeat 09-22-2014 02:51 PM

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Damian Rey 09-22-2014 03:20 PM

Sold like a champ.

XL 09-22-2014 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingofdaswing (Post 4512940)
If you haven't listened to JR and Watts, you need to. He takes a big shit on the current product, that i 100% agree with. Also takes a shit on Cena.

Listened to it earlier. It was like listening to 2 JRs waxing lyrical about the "good ol' days" and not taking into account that modern media consumption/expectations are different to what they were 40 years ago. I agree about the "selling" issue, but it was a bit tiresome listening to the phrase "don't understand the business" 40 times and the expectation that the only way heels should get the upper-hand/win is by cheating. Hate things painted in such black/white terms.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 4512958)
Dean TM Ambrose is THE BEST person on episodes of Countdown.

Genuinely thought you were talking about the letters and numbers based game show rather than the WWE best moments chart.

Emperor Smeat 09-22-2014 04:38 PM

Dirtsheets:

Quote:

Originally Posted by F4W
At last word, Sting still had not signed a deal to wrestle with WWE. He has signed the deal for merchandising and has the deal for WWE 2K15 but there's been no change in the status of a possible return to the ring. It's still expected within WWE that the two sides will come to an agreement to have Sting wrestle at WrestleMania 31 in March 2015.

Quote:

It was reported how WWE plans on pushing NXT star Baron Corbin and we've seen his recent squash wins over CJ Parker. Corbin worked longer matches against Parker at this weekend's NXT live events and reports from all three nights noted how impressive he was. Corbin tweeted the following before Friday's live event in Orlando: "#NXTOrlando cover your eyes and hold on! This will not be a pleasant ride! #differentbreed @WWENXT"
Quote:

Originally Posted by F4W
There are indications within WWE that some of the top NXT stars like Hideo Itami, Fergal Devitt and Kevin Steen may be brought up to the main roster sooner than later. It was said that it's just a matter of time before we see Sami Zayn and NXT Champion Adrian Neville on the main roster regularly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by F4W
As noted, Ric Flair was released from a Georgia hospital on Friday. Flair had 2 hernia surgeries while hospitalized and then had some intestinal problems at the same time. Those problems required another surgery. It will be about 6 weeks before Flair can get back in the gym. Flair lost a bunch of weight from the time he went into the hospital until Friday as he wasn't able to eat. Flair is eating now and spent Saturday afternoon watching college football from home.

Quote:

Originally Posted by F4W
Wrestling legend Bobby Eaton, who has been dealing with some health issues, was rushed to a local hospital after having a seizure on Saturday in Omaha. Eaton had hosted a seminar earlier in the day and was signing autographs when he became ill. Eaton is going to be alright but will be hospitalized for up to a week.

Quote:

Cassandra Frazier, the widow of former WWE Superstar Nelson "Big Daddy V" Frazier, tells Examiner.com that she has received less than $100 from Frazier's former tag team partner and longtime friend Bobby "Sir Mo" Horne, who collected money from fans and others in the business. When Frazier passed in February of this year, Horne reportedly gathered funds to help with Frazier's debt and funeral costs. Horne reportedly raised "a large sum" from the wrestling industry and Cassandra now says she received less than $100 from those funds. She said: "I initially thought no one cared, no one remembered Nelson. I thought how can these people be so cruel but then I found out they did care and so many tried to help but I never received a dime that was sent to Bobby (Horne)."

According to this story, Horne was taking donations through his Paypal account at first but later allowed fans to send money directly to Cassandra. Cassandra claims she still didn't see any money from Horne.
Quote:

Superstars featured in new WrestleMania 31 promotional material for the travel packages are Brock Lesnar, John Cena, Roman Reigns, Randy Orton, Bray Wyatt, Big E and Bad News Barrett. Cena is front and center on the material.

Some other dirtsheets stuff include Aires and Gail Kim as the next possible big names leaving soon from TNA and TNA themselves teasing a tv deal might be announced next week.

Kris P Lettus 09-22-2014 05:46 PM

http://www.wrestlecrap.com/wp-conten.../awesomebh.jpg

Damian Rey 09-22-2014 05:58 PM

Couldn't get through the latest JR podcast with Watts.listening to 2 old wrestling minds pretend you can run the business the same as 40+ years ago got old fast. I love JR and respect his opinion but the idea that a 1970s approach to wrasslin would work today is ludicrous. I also disagree about the match structure. The current in ring, bell to bell action is as good as it's ever been, and the current champion is a legit, even old school like draw. This whole "doesn't know the business" bs is just that.

XL 09-22-2014 06:35 PM

I said the exact same thing in the thread about podcasts.

Damian Rey 09-22-2014 07:57 PM

We seem to agree whole heartedly. Friends?

Bad News Gertner 09-22-2014 08:38 PM

I just enjoy JR having these guys tell road stories. That's all I care to hear.

VSG 09-22-2014 08:43 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>While we like the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/iPhone6?src=hash">#iPhone6</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUS">@SamsungMobileUS</a> is also great. Angry with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWENOC?src=hash">#WWENOC</a>? You have options too. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ImpactOnSpike?src=hash">#ImpactOnSpike</a> Wednesdays at 9/8c</p>&mdash; TNA WRESTLING (@IMPACTWRESTLING) <a href="https://twitter.com/IMPACTWRESTLING/status/513889622762725376">September 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Hmmm..

Dark One 09-22-2014 09:05 PM

Your daily KICKOUT AT TWO:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1580...ick-gage-o.gif

owenbrown 09-22-2014 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4515554)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>While we like the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/iPhone6?src=hash">#iPhone6</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUS">@SamsungMobileUS</a> is also great. Angry with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWENOC?src=hash">#WWENOC</a>? You have options too. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ImpactOnSpike?src=hash">#ImpactOnSpike</a> Wednesdays at 9/8c</p>&mdash; TNA WRESTLING (@IMPACTWRESTLING) <a href="https://twitter.com/IMPACTWRESTLING/status/513889622762725376">September 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Hmmm..

lol @ the replies to this tweet :lol: one guy trolling all of TNA's tweets

Emperor Smeat 09-22-2014 10:02 PM

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Seth82 09-23-2014 01:09 AM

Bill Watts seems to tell tale tales in his interviews.

He claims he was supposed to beat Bruno and get a short run with the title back in the early 60's.

He claims it didn't go down since he was served with lawsuit papers right before it took place.

imo though his UWF was some of the best tv ever in 1986-1987.

a pre-bells palsy Jim Ross was absolutely amazing on commentary.

Watts was part of one of my all time favorite angles.
-WWE should do this with Rusev and a top babyface.
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GD 09-23-2014 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmo (Post 4515192)
For those who are interested. Here's the segment we produced with Bad News Barrett. It's a lifestyle / entertainment capsule called 'Get A Life'.

SPOILER: show
<iframe src="//player.vimeo.com/video/106812260" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/106812260">Get A Life - 2014/09/19 - 'Bad News' Barrett</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user32569658">Animesh Das</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

I love Asmo's interactions with the wrestlers. Good stuff :y:

Cool King 09-23-2014 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4514379)

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Big Vic 09-23-2014 11:51 AM

Thik I might just watch Gotham if the main event for HIAC is Brock vs Cena.

Rammsteinmad 09-23-2014 12:02 PM

So what was Sting's surprise or whatever that he was hinting at?

Big Vic 09-23-2014 12:27 PM

He's Bi

Emperor Smeat 09-23-2014 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4516056)
So what was Sting's surprise or whatever that he was hinting at?

WWE Network's WWE 2k15 roster reveal

Heyman and a few other people were also teasing the date on Twitter.

#1-norm-fan 09-23-2014 04:37 PM

Yeah, I was entirely too hopeful that something awesome was gonna happen on Raw after those hints.

Shadrick 09-23-2014 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4516173)
Yeah, I was entirely too hopeful that something awesome was gonna happen on Raw after those hints.

You'll learn baby, you'll learn.

Emperor Smeat 09-23-2014 04:59 PM

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Jura 09-23-2014 05:05 PM

You need the direct link to the image and not the link to the page or else it won't show up as an image.

Emperor Smeat 09-23-2014 05:39 PM

The links from Postimg never worked?

Jura 09-23-2014 05:57 PM

Actually, I think they may have changed some of the letters in that link so it may have initially worked but it has never showed up for me. Also if you do the "Open image in a new tab" on Chrome the link has different letters as well.

Emperor Smeat 09-23-2014 06:19 PM

Going to switch to Imgur from now on whenever I need to host a wrestling gif.

The original source for that gif was from a place that was set to download or not show up whenever its linked.

GD 09-23-2014 07:53 PM

http://i.imgur.com/EFfvwTE.jpg

Cool King 09-23-2014 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4515721)
I've read that both Justin Gabriel and Sami Zayn have been taking turns at being the bunny.

So I guess what I've read is true then.

Mercenary 09-23-2014 08:13 PM

guess what folk
Mark Henry is heel again!

Kingofdaswing 09-23-2014 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4515333)
Couldn't get through the latest JR podcast with Watts.listening to 2 old wrestling minds pretend you can run the business the same as 40+ years ago got old fast. I love JR and respect his opinion but the idea that a 1970s approach to wrasslin would work today is ludicrous. I also disagree about the match structure. The current in ring, bell to bell action is as good as it's ever been, and the current champion is a legit, even old school like draw. This whole "doesn't know the business" bs is just that.

Yeah because the way they do it now, they draw such a huge audience. 2.9 last week, 2.8 this week. WCW when it was shit, was doing better numbers than that.

Innovator 09-23-2014 08:57 PM

I have Minoru Suzuki's theme in my head

#1-norm-fan 09-23-2014 08:58 PM

A full-on 70's approach wouldn't work today. But the basics needed to build up characters over time remain the same.

As far as the matches, I don't see why anyone would care. Why is a great technical wrestling match appealing if it doesn't matter worth a shit? I'm not saying every match needs to be part of a specific storyline. But when neither character has a direction to the point where the outcome doesn't matter because there's no consistency in how "strong" either guy looks, why does it matter who wins? And if it doesn't matter who wins, why should anyone care about the match at all? I'd rather watch a 2 minute squash match that tells the story of a monster working his way through the roster on his way to the top than a 20 minute "technical masterpiece" between two guys who are gonna look like shit next month... then suddenly be strong for a month... then job the next... then suddenly get pushed again...

Dark One 09-23-2014 09:02 PM

Your daily KICKOUT AT TWO, and I don't really have any words to explain it:

http://i.imgur.com/ZNSrhPN.gif

Emperor Smeat 09-24-2014 12:23 AM

Dirtsheets:

Quote:

This week’s WWE Raw rating is in, and wrestling’s flagship show delivered a 2.69, which is the single lowest number of 2014. As we reported earlier, this week’s viewership was actually up by a bit more than 1%, but WWE had to be expecting a much better final number with the return of Dean Ambrose, an advertised main event between John Cena and Randy Orton, and Monday’s show being the night after a PPV.
In terms of viewers, it ranged between 3.79 million (9pm) to 4 million (8pm). For comparisons, its between 200k to 1/2 million lower than last year's post-Night of Champs show.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWI
We noted before that Paul Heyman was scheduled for last night's RAW to speak on behalf of WWE World Heavyweight Champion to begin their program for next month's Hell In a Cell pay-per-view.

Heyman may not have appeared because it appears WWE hasn't figured out Lesnar's plans for Hell In a Cell yet. As of this morning, another John Cena vs. Lesnar match for Hell In a Cell was not planned.

There was no word on any planned Hell In a Cell matches coming out of RAW either.

Quote:

F4Wonline.com reports that WWE creative was changing and re-writing last night's RAW as it was on the air.
Quote:

While WWE stock and Wall Street as a whole had a rough day on Monday, WWE stock is back over $14 per share this morning. Yesterday's drop may have had to do with financial analysts labeling WWE stock as a "sell" due to concerns over WWE Network subscriptions.
Speculation right now is the Network is tanking badly in the US to the point its likely to be higher than around the 130,000 they lost last time and might not even balance out with the new subs (WWE only gained around 76k overall).

Fignuts 09-24-2014 01:13 AM

Fuck, really hope the network doesn't get cancelled. When you consider the content, it's really one of the most awesome things to happen to pro wrestling.

How are more people not buying this?

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-24-2014 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4516450)
Fuck, really hope the network doesn't get cancelled. When you consider the content, it's really one of the most awesome things to happen to pro wrestling.

How are more people not buying this?

They are cheap bastards and wwe is overselling it to embarrassing levels.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-24-2014 01:24 AM

I think JamesSteele should close the stream thread if anybody uses it anymore.

Emperor Smeat 09-24-2014 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4516450)
Fuck, really hope the network doesn't get cancelled. When you consider the content, it's really one of the most awesome things to happen to pro wrestling.

How are more people not buying this?

Very unlikely the WWE is going to shut down the Network although whatever they were planning or expecting from the US is probably over. International subs should easily keep it afloat for a while.

A lot of complaints seem to be mixed between the lack of original content, WWE being slow to upload certain stuff or fix things, and current WWE stuff not being interesting enough to sway people to sign up or stay.

Disturbed316 09-24-2014 05:11 AM

I love the Network, easily the best money I spend every month.

GD 09-24-2014 05:27 AM

Would be a total mind fuck if Eddie Guerrero returned as the Bunny.

"Orale vato, it was me all along, esse!"

screech 09-24-2014 05:56 AM

The Network is the best. I do wish they'd make the video player less laggy, though.

Still the best use of $10. I watch it every day.

Tazz Dan 09-24-2014 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercenary (Post 4516303)
guess what folk
Mark Henry is heel again!

How do you figure this? Have I missed something?

screech 09-24-2014 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy Gunn (Post 4516539)
I think it'd be better if Raw and Smackdown got added right after their TV broadcasts, it feels incomplete if you want to use it to catch up on current events other than PPVs.

Agree with this 100p. Can't they not do that because of TV contracts or some piss, though?

Hanso Amore 09-24-2014 08:34 AM

Honestly for 9.99 it's a good deal but I don't buy it because fuck, I don't want to watch the pay per views.

I'll subscribe around royal rumple time so I can do the rumble and wrestlemania.

As for old content I really only want to watch wcw from 85-99 and that not all there yet from what I can tell.

Ecw doesn't appeal to me because I have seen all the events numerous times and it's always weird, disjointed because you miss some of the booking.

Would love to watch wcw Saturday night for a full year in the early 90s to progress with the booking.

Evil Vito 09-24-2014 08:59 AM

<font color=goldenrod>My initial network subscription had expired and I didn't renew right away since I didn't have time to watch, got it back before NOC. Going to start watching more stuff on Monday nights since I doubt the WWE product will interest me again until January.

I have dozens of Nitros to catch up on. I do wish they'd have caught up with Raws of the same time period so I could watch the Monday Night Wars head to head.</font>

Bobholly138 09-24-2014 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4516450)
Fuck, really hope the network doesn't get cancelled. When you consider the content, it's really one of the most awesome things to happen to pro wrestling.

How are more people not buying this?

I didn't get it for many reasons.

1.All the WWF/WWE/WCW/ECW ppvs I want to see I already own.

2.Don't really give a shit about modern WWE so seeing the current PPVs means jack to me.

3.The one show on the Network I would watch,I can just watch on Hulu for free.

4.Got a data cap.

Bobholly138 09-24-2014 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 4516543)
How do you figure this? Have I missed something?



Henry cut a promo and turned on Main Event.

Kingofdaswing 09-24-2014 09:48 AM

No one wants the network because the current product is shit. Pretty simple.

Heisenberg 09-24-2014 09:57 AM

I like the Network for NXT and Monday Night War recaps. All of the PPVs are nice to put on when doing stuff around the house. I got Wrestlemania and Royal Rumble on PPV so working this into my budget didn't cause any stress.

Tazz Dan 09-24-2014 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingofdaswing (Post 4516602)
No one wants the network because the current product is shit. Pretty simple.

So, what? The network gets cancelled and we all go back to paying stupid high prices for PPV's. Keep in mind, I don't stream. And we pay $34.95 for PPV's in Australia, and WWE shows are shown on Foxtel, our Pay TV provider here, which starts at something like $49.95 a month. You need that to be able to purchase PPV's.

Also, the fact there is so many hours of OLD content on it is fucking amazing. They could double the price and I'd still subscribe. You know why? BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT FUCKING DEAL. Wrestling fans are just fickle though. They could offer it for $1 a month and everyone would still find a reason to bitch about it.

And if WWE ever did go bust because people are to tight to pay for content and would rather stream, those people wouldn't take any responsibility for it happening, I guarantee it.

Tazz Dan 09-24-2014 10:32 AM

Honestly, I can see why HHH is frustrated with fans and decided to push the whole thing down our throats. No other sport or entertainment genre offers anything as good as what they do for the price. And if you don't want to get locked in to 6 months of the rediculously high priced network, you can pay an extra $2 for ONE MONTH, still get all the content, and save 40 odd dollars on a PPV cost. I just don't see why people can't see the benefits to this.

Tazz Dan 09-24-2014 10:33 AM

And if the only excuse you have is 'the product is shit right now', here's a suggestion for you.

Stop fucking watching instead of complaining every week.

Innovator 09-24-2014 10:35 AM

Way I see it, if you stream everything, you shouldn't have a voice to complain about the product. Even if they did everything you wanted and turned into smarkworld, you still wouldn't pay for it.

Mercenary 09-24-2014 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 4516619)
So, what? The network gets cancelled and we all go back to paying stupid high prices for PPV's. Keep in mind, I don't stream. And we pay $34.95 for PPV's in Australia, and WWE shows are shown on Foxtel, our Pay TV provider here, which starts at something like $49.95 a month. You need that to be able to purchase PPV's.

Also, the fact there is so many hours of OLD content on it is fucking amazing. They could double the price and I'd still subscribe. You know why? BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT FUCKING DEAL. Wrestling fans are just fickle though. They could offer it for $1 a month and everyone would still find a reason to bitch about it.

And if WWE ever did go bust because people are to tight to pay for content and would rather stream, those people wouldn't take any responsibility for it happening, I guarantee it.


Good post sir it deserves

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Kingofdaswing 09-24-2014 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 4516619)
So, what? The network gets cancelled and we all go back to paying stupid high prices for PPV's. Keep in mind, I don't stream. And we pay $34.95 for PPV's in Australia, and WWE shows are shown on Foxtel, our Pay TV provider here, which starts at something like $49.95 a month. You need that to be able to purchase PPV's.

Also, the fact there is so many hours of OLD content on it is fucking amazing. They could double the price and I'd still subscribe. You know why? BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT FUCKING DEAL. Wrestling fans are just fickle though. They could offer it for $1 a month and everyone would still find a reason to bitch about it.

And if WWE ever did go bust because people are to tight to pay for content and would rather stream, those people wouldn't take any responsibility for it happening, I guarantee it.

For one, I am in Canada, and do not have access to the WWE Network, as it is Rogers Communication clients only, which is not available where I am, so as a matter of fact, I payed 55 dollars for NoC. Raw is also on a pay channel which guess what, I also pay for. So you can stop acting all high and mighty because you think you are the only one who pays for things, you're not. I would be a subscriber to the network hands down if available to me, but that's me. The fact that the poduct is shit does matter, and seems to me lots of people have stopped watching. Thus Raw numbers, and network numbers are shit. The stuff you said is absolutely true, all the old content is amazing, no doubt about that, but because of the state of the current product, no one will spend the money to buy it. That's a fact.

Mercenary 09-24-2014 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 4516621)
And if the only excuse you have is 'the product is shit right now', here's a suggestion for you.

Stop fucking watching instead of complaining every week.

thank you!

XL 09-24-2014 10:52 AM

The problem I'll have with the Network when it eventually arrives here is simple; time difference.

It'd be great to have access to the PPVs every month and £10 (presuming the price) is a bargain, however, I still wouldn't be able to watch live at 1am as I have work at 7am on a Monday. Therefore I'd be watching on Monday evening...as I do now through a streaming site where I don't have to pay. That site also uploads all of the Network exclusive shows/specials and the weekly TV shows that the Network doesn't cover. Essentially I'd be paying £120 for a legit source for my wrestling viewing that I don't have to.

Know, if that site were to close...different story.

Tazz Dan 09-24-2014 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingofdaswing (Post 4516630)
For one, I am in Canada, and do not have access to the WWE Network, as it is Rogers Communication clients only, which is not available where I am, so as a matter of fact, I payed 55 dollars for NoC. Raw is also on a pay channel which guess what, I also pay for. So you can stop acting all high and mighty because you think you are the only one who pays for things, you're not. I would be a subscriber to the network hands down if available to me, but that's me. The fact that the poduct is shit does matter, and seems to me lots of people have stopped watching. Thus Raw numbers, and network numbers are shit. The stuff you said is absolutely true, all the old content is amazing, no doubt about that, but because of the state of the current product, no one will spend the money to buy it. That's a fact.

lol how was I being high and mighty? And I never once insinuated I was the only one who pays for content. You made the call though that nobody wanted the network because the product is shit, pretty simple.

I was simply pointing out that just because the product might not be at its all time greatest, and let's be honest, it will never peak at the way it did in the late 90's ever again, there is still pretty of other good reasons to get it, and it's cheap. That's why I quoted prices. I can't see why people would complain about 6 monthly payments of $9.99 and then pay $54.95 for a PPV.

And also, me being in Australia, month one of the network cost me AU$10.77, and this month has cost me AU$11.07. And like I said, I'd happily pay double that a month if not more for everything included on the network.

So now, get off your pedistal and don't argue with your King ever again son.

Kingofdaswing 09-24-2014 11:02 AM

I love the " Stop Fucking Watching" response.

If you haven't noticed the ratings lately, people have stopped watching. I for one will never stop watching, I will never stop spending the 50 or 60 on each PPV, however, when I spend my money, and the shit they put on doesn't satisfy me, I will bitch.

Pefect example, Jericho attacked by Orton, injures is knee. Match is made for NoCs. The video hyping the match clearly is stating the story of this feud Is Jericho's knee injury. Does Orton work the knee? Nope, not once.

Now was it a shitty match? No, in my opinion it was the second best on the card behind Cesaro and Shamus, however the story of the feud and the story of the match were no where near the same.

Then we have the main event, which ends in a DQ. Now if this does not end up with Cena vs Lesnar in Hell in a cell, then it just looks like they just threw the DQ in there just because they couldn't have cena lose again. if it ends with a hell in a cell, then I have no problem. However, why does Rollins attack a heel? I understand he has the brief case, however, you do not have a heel attack a heel, it's common sense. Then on Raw they don't say anything about it? No Heyman even. So are we supposed to forget that happened, and assume Lesnar is going to let Rollins off the hook?

These are just two examples. There are many more.

Tazz Dan 09-24-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 4516632)
The problem I'll have with the Network when it eventually arrives here is simple; time difference.

It'd be great to have access to the PPVs every month and £10 (presuming the price) is a bargain, however, I still wouldn't be able to watch live at 1am as I have work at 7am on a Monday. Therefore I'd be watching on Monday evening...as I do now through a streaming site where I don't have to pay. That site also uploads all of the Network exclusive shows/specials and the weekly TV shows that the Network doesn't cover. Essentially I'd be paying £120 for a legit source for my wrestling viewing that I don't have to.

Know, if that site were to close...different story.

Not attacking you here at all, you know I love you XL.

But imagine if everybody streamed, and nobody paid for content. WWE would lose a lot of revenue, and the company would eventually go bust.

Again, it's something that I don't understand. If we all live wrestling, and WWE in particular so much, why do we not want to do the right thing and pay for the entertainment?

You guys will probably think I'm crazy, but if I really enjoy a PPV, I still buy the Blu-Ray or DVD, even though it's on the network, on demand. And I purchase all Documentaries etc they release also. Well, the majority of them anyway.

Innovator 09-24-2014 11:11 AM

One thing fans who are complaining about the Network don't get, WWE isn't going back to PPV. The PPV business is dying, sans people who pay to see Mayweather fights. Year over year people were buying less, so WWE had to up the price. WWE also only netted 40% of the PPV revenue, the other 60% went to the cable/satellite companies.

Tazz Dan 09-24-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingofdaswing (Post 4516636)
I love the " Stop Fucking Watching" response.

If you haven't noticed the ratings lately, people have stopped watching. I for one will never stop watching, I will never stop spending the 50 or 60 on each PPV, however, when I spend my money, and the shit they put on doesn't satisfy me, I will bitch.

Pefect example, Jericho attacked by Orton, injures is knee. Match is made for NoCs. The video hyping the match clearly is stating the story of this feud Is Jericho's knee injury. Does Orton work the knee? Nope, not once.

Now was it a shitty match? No, in my opinion it was the second best on the card behind Cesaro and Shamus, however the story of the feud and the story of the match were no where near the same.

Then we have the main event, which ends in a DQ. Now if this does not end up with Cena vs Lesnar in Hell in a cell, then it just looks like they just threw the DQ in there just because they couldn't have cena lose again. if it ends with a hell in a cell, then I have no problem. However, why does Rollins attack a heel? I understand he has the brief case, however, you do not have a heel attack a heel, it's common sense. Then on Raw they don't say anything about it? No Heyman even. So are we supposed to forget that happened, and assume Lesnar is going to let Rollins off the hook?

These are just two examples. There are many more.

We all know this, you don't have to point it out to me. But seriously, if it bugs people so much that they feel the need to get on a forum and complain week after week after week..... Wouldn't you just stop? Or accept it for what it is at the current time and suck it up?

There's nothing wrong with being frustrated and venting from time to time, but if you're at that point where you just simply have nothing good to say, I'd be taking a break from watching for a while.

Big Vic 09-24-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4516624)
Way I see it, if you stream everything, you shouldn't have a voice to complain about the product. Even if they did everything you wanted and turned into smarkworld, you still wouldn't pay for it.

I'll buy it when they offer free backrubs with subscription.

wwe2222 09-24-2014 11:23 AM

If you buy a minimum of 2 PPVs per year, there is zero reason to not order the network. I think network is great. There is no one else offering this for their product, be it sports or sports entertainment, or even most entertainment.

whiteyford 09-24-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 4516632)
The problem I'll have with the Network when it eventually arrives here is simple; time difference.

It'd be great to have access to the PPVs every month and £10 (presuming the price) is a bargain, however, I still wouldn't be able to watch live at 1am as I have work at 7am on a Monday. Therefore I'd be watching on Monday evening...as I do now through a streaming site where I don't have to pay. That site also uploads all of the Network exclusive shows/specials and the weekly TV shows that the Network doesn't cover. Essentially I'd be paying £120 for a legit source for my wrestling viewing that I don't have to.

Know, if that site were to close...different story.

Have they said it'll be the same as the US version, I thought they'd just signed a deal with Sky to up the number of PPVs on Boxoffice, can't see them being happy.

Shisen Kopf 09-24-2014 12:46 PM

10 bucks a month and people even still bitch. Oy vey!

Droford 09-24-2014 01:22 PM

Here's where PG era hurts..I think a good portion of WWEs audience is parents of kids who watch. The parents never ordered PPVs before on a regular basis and the kids could care less about stuff that happened a year ago, much less 20 years ago. This nullifies the networks two main selling points.

Innovator 09-24-2014 02:11 PM

Arda Ocal just got signed by the WWE, nice.

Innovator 09-24-2014 03:31 PM

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Emperor Smeat 09-24-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4516720)
Here's where PG era hurts..I think a good portion of WWEs audience is parents of kids who watch. The parents never ordered PPVs before on a regular basis and the kids could care less about stuff that happened a year ago, much less 20 years ago. This nullifies the networks two main selling points.

That's probably a big reason why almost all the pre-launch hype was towards the Attitude Era and the older crowd for the Network. All the estimates about fanbases hinted the older and lapsed fanbases being the groups who would carry the Network.

Big Vic 09-24-2014 03:55 PM

Whats up with Takers pants?

GD 09-24-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4516796)

Dude, what the fuck happened?

Innovator 09-24-2014 04:05 PM

Survivor Series 2000, Taker decided to wear gold zebra pants

Big Vic 09-24-2014 04:10 PM

I woulda ran away too for that reason.

#1-norm-fan 09-24-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4516644)
One thing fans who are complaining about the Network don't get, WWE isn't going back to PPV. The PPV business is dying, sans people who pay to see Mayweather fights. Year over year people were buying less, so WWE had to up the price. WWE also only netted 40% of the PPV revenue, the other 60% went to the cable/satellite companies.

I don't think the issue was "the PPV business dying". If that's the case then why have WrestleMania buys over the past 10 years been better than ever before? WrestleMania has been treated as an event/spectacle beyond the typical WWE product more and more over the past decade or so and MORE people have ordered it than ever before despite the raised prices. If other PPVs are selling less it's not because the PPV business is dying... it's because they aren't able to sell PPVs with the state of the current product. If the product gets better and ratings start to soar then PPV buys go with it. It's that simple. It's not PPV's fault.

Nicky Fives 09-24-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4516747)
Arda Ocal just got signed by the WWE, nice.

saw it on Twitter, very well deserved.

GD 09-24-2014 04:42 PM

Where are Fandango, Kofi Kingston, Big E and David BroTunga?

#1-norm-fan 09-24-2014 04:45 PM

Fandango is being awesome somewhere where WWE is not making money off of it because they're not very smart.

XL 09-24-2014 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4516658)
Have they said it'll be the same as the US version, I thought they'd just signed a deal with Sky to up the number of PPVs on Boxoffice, can't see them being happy.

At this point I don't think there's anything to say that the Network will be the "over the top" internet-based system that it is in America. Would they have a subscription channel through Sky, similar to what they've set up in Canada? Seems a little odd that it's launched all over the world but not here.

I don't know if the Network would have enough of a draw factor without any of the live stuff. By all accounts they need a big take-up here.

GD 09-24-2014 04:48 PM

Josh Matthews has entered the Impact Zone.

#1-norm-fan 09-24-2014 04:52 PM

Random thought: I really afternoon wrestling shows.

Living on the west coast, I used to get WCW Saturday Night from 3:05-5:05 pm and maybe it's just a nostalgia thing but I enjoyed the feeling of watching wrestling at that time.

#1-norm-fan 09-24-2014 04:54 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByUTwQ_IAAAUGLc.jpg

HOLY SHIT! IT'S JOSH MATHEWS!

Seth82 09-24-2014 05:00 PM

RIP Don Manoukian.

He and The Destroyer were one helluva good tag team.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/...CTues00006.jpg

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/.../21962446.html

Emperor Smeat 09-24-2014 05:02 PM

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XL 09-24-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 4516642)
Not attacking you here at all, you know I love you XL.

But imagine if everybody streamed, and nobody paid for content. WWE would lose a lot of revenue, and the company would eventually go bust.

Again, it's something that I don't understand. If we all live wrestling, and WWE in particular so much, why do we not want to do the right thing and pay for the entertainment?

You guys will probably think I'm crazy, but if I really enjoy a PPV, I still buy the Blu-Ray or DVD, even though it's on the network, on demand. And I purchase all Documentaries etc they release also. Well, the majority of them anyway.

You're absolutely right on all counts. I'm not defending my theft of the WWE product, and I won't go with the old pretense of "I'd pay if the product was better".

For me it's simply a matter of cost. Having Sky with the sports package costs £46 a month + a PPV fee (£15 I think), I simply don't have £60+ per month of expendable income to pay for the WWE product (that I wouldn't be able to watch live). The only other thing I'd watch on Sky would be Game of Thrones, which runs for 10 weeks a year, and the occasional soccer game (some of which you need an additional pay channel to view).

The idea of the Network allowing me to watch all of the first-run WWE content for under a tenner was revolutionary, alas the Network doesn't show Raw/SmackDown live (or a re-run) and more than likely won't carry the PPVs either.

Poit 09-24-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercenary (Post 4516303)
guess what folk
Mark Henry is heel again!

Well, kinda. He started to turn heel, but Big Show stopped him. He might finish the heel turn on Smackdown though.

Rammsteinmad 09-24-2014 05:12 PM

Yay! Just what we need, another Mark Henry heel turn!

#1-norm-fan 09-24-2014 05:28 PM

So apparently on the back of the Sting DVD that was just released, one of the pictures is of the fake NWO Sting.

lol


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