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aew is the tale of 2 spectrums. it get little to no criticism from its fandom and gets nothing but criticism from its detractors. its very much the same kind of tribalism thats infected every level of modern culture. objectivity is dead. long live absolutism.
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Ever so the optimist Destor.
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*breaks character for a moment*
This is ridiculous. So many of yall screech and whine about Xrod like children. He is owning all of you, over and over again, every day. All he has to do when ya'll start giving him shit because you don't like his opinions and he won't bend the knee is post a stupid, low effort, non-sensical meme that took him 15 seconds to make and you all lose your shit like a bunch of vapid loons. It's like a master class on trolling from 2004. Ya'll talk about him being childish and you can't even refrain from overreacting and responding to his schtick ON QUEUE. It's fucking embarrassing. Jesus Christ. |
man's not wrong
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Bringing up a valid concern isn't an overreaction nor does it mean that we're acting like children. However posting "stupid, low effort, non-sensical meme that took him 15 seconds to make" may qualify as such. At the end of the day it is his prerogative. Trolling is immature and the problem lies on both sides. Looking at you #1-wwf-fan. Their back and forth makes some of the threads unreadable. Stop calling it a "master class in trolling", it's too funny. |
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i think pretty clearly im not in either camp. my loyalty is to a product that makes sense. doesnt matter who makes it. its a pretty low bar tbh. my preferences are wrestling presented as sport. no one did that better than japan until the midish 00s. really when Misawa died it all shifted pretty hard.
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It was actually Cody who originally stated AEW would have a more grounded, sports base presentation, and I wonder if AEW clearly not being that played a part in his departure.
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cody was usurped by the money mark. in codys mind there was to be a very different company with cody driving creative. look back on the early days, pre-aew even, and youll see the core concept was somethin very different. and imo much better.
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My opinion of Punk hasn't changed, it is all the same as it was before he ever came back. Quote:
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All BEFORE Punk came back. |
in codys mind kahn was going to be the financial backer not the booker
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I imagine it had something to do with it. Any interest they had in presenting themselves as a serious sport went out the window early on imo. No one is buying the flippy, no selling, finisher spamming spot fests as serious sport. That said I'm still happy to go see Dynamite in July. |
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Still the weirdest thing to me is how over Darby quickly got because at FF everyone in the crowd was crapping all over him hard. I dunno if they covered the crowd or what for the TV feed but it was BAD. |
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it was very different. wrestling shows can have variety. thats unimportant. trivial even.
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Also, the pushback you received for criticizing Punk is uncalled for. You don't deserve that. |
I remember repping you for that amusing MTV video.
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With that being said, it's high time you two squashed this feud. It's been long overdue. It's going nowhere. Just be respectful and go your separate ways. Maybe you two will get a tag team run in the future.
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https://c.tenor.com/iRRAJt3llV4AAAAC...-stop-stop.gif Squash the beef you two :mad: https://c.tenor.com/aFLylwK2siwAAAAC...bryan-kane.gif |
I’m pretty happy with the way things are now, thanks.
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MJF would be great as a manager in WWE.
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I remember when people called AEW out on having inconsistent rules in the beginning. Cody got on Twitter and was like “I don’t think you’ll be seeing that again.” Welp… There was very clearly a vision difference between Cody and Tony. I think that wedge still exists between AEW and some of its more talented roster members. And I think that gives them finite time to utilize some of these people. |
The tag division is the only one that can really be argued right now but I'm with you in thinking WWE is still better. It wouldn't be close if WWE merged the tag divisions.
Don't get me wrong, AEW has a few good teams. But FTR is the only one worth a damn in the grand scheme of things rn. The Bucks suck as they always have and always will. Who else really matters as a tag team rn? I guess I'd say the potential is absolutely there for them to have the better tag division. They have most of the pieces already (they really needed to talk warner into letting them sign The Briscos) they just haven't been put into the right places yet. Really think they should lean into it more and try to make that their thing. |
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I mean, you count Edge & Priest and Styles & Balor and you’ve trumped that right there. RKBro, Alpha Academy and the Street Profits take Raw way over the top alone. |
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Wish AEW would do cool lucha things with The Death Triangle.
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Is the story there that Jeff Hardy has done a lot of drugs? Because I agree.
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bro, you gotta list gacy's clown influences, too!
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yo gacy woulda had punk tied up in the rope trick and in the crawlspace no problem
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tbf he would have its not like punk can even partially defend himself
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i meant what i said
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John Wayne Gacy was NOT clairvoyant though as far as I know. So we still need to clarify who his ACTUAL influences were before we can blame crystal meth for dub bad.
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can yiu prove he wasnt? I DONT THINK YOU CAN
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I SAID AS FAR AS I KNOW!!!
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SO AS FAR YOU KNOW HE *COULD* HAVE BEEN
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ALSO i bet he could teleport
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The Warner Discovery Upfront gave AEW its Wednesday top billing.
Red Velvet: apparently the new face of AEW https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user...BSLyAADPmf.jpg |
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Red Velvet, face of AEW, that is gonna piss Phil off :rofl:
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why? i read in one of your reddit memes he's an emasculated cuck so he's gonna love this.
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you didn't, the meme did.
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keep up with your third party shit talking, man!
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Miro pops up in a trailer for a new CBS series around 1 min in
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can’t believe it’s been five years since I sent this tweet. It’s been a wild ride watching <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> grow and I cannot wait to see what the future holds for the company! <a href="https://t.co/RXetMgnqTo">https://t.co/RXetMgnqTo</a></p>— WWE Guy (@TheWWEGuy_) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheWWEGuy_/status/1526335662382845956?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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5 years and almost nothing to show for it. What a damn shame.
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Hang on — is AEW actually having Page cut promos on Punk breaking kayfabe by accusing him of structuring his matches like Bret Hart? Fucking idiots.
The drama comes from people emotionally investing in the sincerity of the action. If you shatter the illusion that someone is actually trying to win a match as opposed to putting on a fictional artistic performance, there is no point to the drama. Why have championships? Why ring the bell? This is Vince Russo shit. It doesn’t make Page more “real.” It makes everything look fake as shit. There are only a select few people who are going to put cash in the collection plate after the preacher tells them God isn’t real. |
Is he phrasing it that way? Structuring matches? That would be highly dumb. If he just says Bret Hart wannabe/copycat then that is ok.
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Nah, it wasn’t like “you want to be like your hero,” which would be fine.
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Fuck this company.
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It was a few Dynamites ago, when they had Page do a heel turn the week before going to Long Island where Punk gets booed and acted like a heel. Then they had Page barely beat some complete unknown Japanese wrestler using the GTS ppl, so now he is the heel again, I guess...
Like everything involving Punk, it is devoid of all logic and sucks. |
They’ve failed Page as a babyface BIG TIME.
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I saw the crowd was cheering Punk over Page this week. They’ve done an awful job with some of their positioning of talent recently. The whole thing with Sami & Tay and Men of the Year and Lambert is very muddled right now.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There was a reference to Roman Reigns and AEW on HBO Max's "Hacks" show. Sounds like someone on the show is a wrestling fan. <a href="https://t.co/stIt5hP65z">pic.twitter.com/stIt5hP65z</a></p>— Wrestling News (@WrestlingNewsCo) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingNewsCo/status/1527425267362324480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Take that PHIL! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: |
AEW’s top apologist has an Observer piece about how the upfronts were not a good sign for AEW. An expression comes to mind: “No shit.”
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No one in AEW has media training, apart from Paul Wight and Mark Henry who are both not being used in that role, let alone social media training. WWE sees that as a necessity, to the point that the training begins at the Performance Center. No one represented AEW specifically at the Upfronts for Discovery. Roman Reigns represented WWE for Fox. Miz and Bianca represented WWE for USA. |
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Do you guys think Jon Moxley is back on the sauce?
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I sure hope not but damn if it didnt feel like he was on dynamite. Had some face bloat going on and was slurring constantly.
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I didn't notice much bloat but the slurring is kinda just the way he's always talked in his promo style.
Definitely hope he's not back on anything. If he is, Jericho's rehab comments are a bit more oof. |
I heard that Mox was noticeably drunk at Dynamite. Damn.
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i hurd Gable snorted coke from otis's ass.
shame. :( |
Oh sure try and pretend you havent snorted blow off a fat guys ass. No one is gonna buy it.
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Well guys it looks like the board has spoken and Jon Moxley is back on the sauce.
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I dvr'd rampage to watch later...n e 1 else?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Without getting into too much detail..bc of the attack after Elevation on Monday, I had to undergo a procedure this week to fix my knee. Story of my life..1 step forward, 2 steps back. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a> <a href="https://t.co/QtSga0eFeC">pic.twitter.com/QtSga0eFeC</a></p>— Anthony Bowens (@Bowens_Official) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bowens_Official/status/1527790671267889157?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
I'm still trying to figure out how winning a feud with Britt Baker makes you get featured on TV LESS.
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