Yikes! Brian Cage looks very small here. Isn't he the same height as Wardlow?

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send krow

I don't remember this

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AEW should do an MMA Cage Fight between CM Punk and Brandon Cutler and have Cutler mop the floor with Punk.

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Vince McMahon has actually succeeded at more of his extracurricular activities than Punk has. At least WWE Studios seems to do pretty well. Punk flopped at everything.

The new ROH logo brings back memories of when the WWF came up with a new WCW logo.

"i still respect him for trying" is the softest shit ever.

Oof.

Very low rent.

It looks like the local business logo on the side of a van.

Never mind that it’s a completely selfish endeavour that didn’t make wrestling look great — he was fucking embarrassingly bad at it. No one would applaud a vanity album someone put together as “giving it a go.”

O-M-G!!!

I dont even know where we go from here :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Excellent. No lies detected.

Is that a real clip? Bischoff sounds like an AI robot voice, and Booker sounds off too.

lol great detective work LJ

Only took half of SlikJaw to crack that one.

One of AEW’s biggest backers in Warner Media has gone from his role. The beginning of the end?

Someone needs to show Kathleen Finch tapes of AEW fast so she gets wet off that workrate.

Warner Bros Discovery is also buying out BT Sport to eventually merge it with Eurosport. Looks like AEW is going to be the form of sports entertainment on both terrestrial television AND premium channels in the UK. Sorry, WWE!

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I dunno, maybe that's what he sounds like on his podcast

Such a fucking stupid spot. Lol at Jeff needing to change positions to catch him.

And why is the Owen Hart tournament No DQ? That feels more like a tribute to Vince Russo than Owen.

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It was just that match I believe. So that Jeff and Darby could go “all out”.

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That’s fun.

I banged Charli Dimelo Anthony.

The only thing worse than AEW is Carpool Karaoke, so it’s a good fit. And when Warner kicks them off, they can go to Apple TV.

prove it

Neat. Anything that brings eyes sounds good to me.

MJF is perpetually in character so I look forward to him getting to flex that he actually sings well

Me and my oldest son going to dynamite/rampage on July 13th WOOOOOO

uWuDraveuWu sign or GTFO

TPuWWu

Good for you. I hope you get what you paid for.

At least it’s time with the son.

Nice man! The energy in the live crowds has been great.

ALL OUT possibly headed to Toronto

That half a building really show up.

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Super dramatic music in that.... lol at her phantom selling of the moves

It is a bit Brian Christopher & Scott Taylor.

A female Lil Naitch, Charles Robinson, who also has done this for decades and its great.

Shida shoots on AEW claiming she is injured.

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Shida "suddenly" has to send out a Dub Good tweet.

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What a GREAT boss!

Lol, what a fucking mess.

The shoot interviews are going to be very interesting.

Sounds like Grand Slam will be an annual event and back to Arthur Ashe in September.

I’ll definitely be going again. I just hope they can sort shit out with the concession lines this time, open more stands.

What should Tony do for a live show if a star cannot be there for a legendary dead guy's honorary tournament?

Shida is my favorite female sports entertainer and she would (should) be a champion in any promotion in the world.

Tony needs to cut down on the Jade and Brit promos and afford more ring time for the women. I'll honestly be sad to see P-Ford leave

This will def be a transitional year for AEW. I don't see Discovery keeping them after the 2023 contract ends.

What is wrong with the truth? Why say she is injured when she is out wrestling in Japan? Isn't his die hard fans supposed to be all in the knowing of everything wrestling in Japan? He clearly didn't run that storyline by her, or she would not have been upset.

Maybe if he wasn't all coked up all the time he would stop and think about logic for a moment or two.

his entire audience is on twitter. an injury angle is for who exactly?

You're a towel.

sos yr mum

xrod just need to towl-eech

MJF continues to tease he can’t wait to get out. AEW fans continue to tell themselves it’s definitely a work.

He does seem to have a legit gripe. We don't know exactly what he makes, but I have to think it is not reflective of his place on the card. How many multiples more do you think Tony is paying Keith Lee and Swerve to wrestle on youtube then he is paying MJF to be on Dynamite every week?

I mean they probably get paid at the same time. No reason to believe he pays Lee & Swerve then pays MJF. Although if he is getting paid after those guys I can understand why he’d want out.

Lee & Swerve turned out to be massive busts, didn’t they? Just misused in the WWE, I’m sure.

MJF wants to be a star. AEW got off to a false start and the place that is going to give him the best exposure is WWE. Cody has got a foot in the door and is proving that the WWE will use talent that have got something special to offer.

His deal isn’t up until 2024, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this talk about going is designed to twist Tony’s arm into releasing him. TK can’t book MJF into a hole, because he’s too good. That would also look petty from the company’s perspective. But he can’t exactly use MJF on top knowing that he’s going to go to the WWE, right?

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if MJF gets squashed by Wardlow at Double or Nothing and that’s the last we see of MJF for a couple of months.

FOX is airing the SuperBowl next February. WWE has got a reasonable shot at getting a slot on directly after it. That’s a 100 million viewer lead-in. If that thing goes down, I guarantee MJF wants to be on it. I can very easily see Roman/Rock and Cody/MJF as two big matches for Mania next year.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the reason Cody and MJF only had one match against each other goes beyond Tony being a horrible booker and it was consciously Cody and MJF pocketing it for later use in the WWE.

Has Mox signed a new deal with AEW yet? He’s another guy I could very easily see jumping ship. WWE is a more structured environment. They’re the best place to build a legacy. Hopefully he’s gotten the silly death match stuff out of his system. If he returns to the WWE, there’s two Hall of Fame rings and a lifetime of Shield documentaries waiting for him. It’s something his daughter could cash in on over her life too. AEW is just money now. It’s value will be people talking about what a missed opportunity it was on the WWE Network.

Have we heard anything on JR either? WWE could very easily use him as a special guest commentator and a talent scout/consultant.

This is what I figured, but it’s now out there that TK wants MJF to sign a new contract for more money but a longer commitment, but MJF doesn’t want to extend his time with AEW. He wants the option of going in 2024.

There are grumblings that talent in AEW thinks he should sign the deal if he wants the money he’s worth, but what they don’t get is that he doesn’t want to. MJF knows exactly what he’s doing. He’ll either be out before his deal ends or he’ll be making that bank when it does.

Also, I’m just going to say this: I’m skeptical that Omega is ever going to return to AEW. Between Punk and Danielson coming in and the video game being a money pit, I think Omega might be pulling a Shawn Michaels until his deal is up and he can sign on with WWE for 2 years.

AJ Styles at Mania 39. Jericho at Mania 40. He puts over one of their guys at Mania 41 then calls it a day.

FTR in June 2023 and The Bucks with Jericho in early 2024.

Hopefully Christian can get out soon too. A 3-yr deal suggests he might be a free agent come March 2024, but given his age it’s possible he didn’t get the 3-yr thing and maybe he gets out 2023. That’s if talent can’t ask for their releases, which MJF might change.

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Glad Noid is enjoying this splendid Sunday discussing his favorite professional wrestling promotion.

The schadenfreude is going to be amazing.

i dont think mjf could find any success outside of AEW long term. he should probably tread lightly in negotiations

There seem to be two camps with this. There are people who think he’d have to lose an edge and his size would hurt him in WWE, and there are people who think he’d adapt and the WWE would bring him in with the purpose of actually using him right.

With Cody, Vince has demonstrated he’s going to take more of an AWA approach to coax talent in as opposed to the WCW “we’ll bury the guys from the outset to make ourselves look better approach.”

MJF has a huge backer in the WWE in Cody Rhodes, who definitely seems to have Vince’s ear. He’s young as fuck and an all-round performer who has proven that he can get people into whatever story he’s telling. You said long-term, which is interesting. I can definitely see him being hottest when he initially shows up. But if that is in 2024, he’ll be coming in as the WWE will be looking to move past Roman Reigns as the A1 guy and they will be looking to have guys who can work with your Bron Breakkers and Gable Stevesons of the world.

Cody will probably have creative sway over their program, which could very well be the first thing MJF does there. He’ll be able to say the things he wants to say via Cody and make that impression. If the guy wants to be a singer/actor as well, it would be wise for him to be working on steps towards having something ready to go on that front. For example, I can see the guy putting together an album of songs he can present to the WWE as a way to market him outside the usual wrestling context. WWE will find him even more attractive as a signing if he’s able to have a measure of crossover appeal, no matter how niche it is or whatever.

He’s also got value as a guy who can have the bodyguard, which gets a jacked up guy they see value in on TV in a credible spot as well. And he can have that heel tag team as his lackeys that provide them with a bit of direction.

The hit it would be to AEW and further incentive for talent to choose WWE over them is going to be worth it for them.

I’ll also add that if Warner Bros Discovery gets sick of having wrestling occupying time on their networks, they might take an even greater hit in terms of exposure by 2024. I can understand why some talent might want to be out by then.

I actually think that you have some valid points about AEW, Khan and the mistakes they are making. AEW is a mess. They should have a busy and exciting main event scene with the names and talent they have under contract, but somehow they are underutilizing almost every single one of them. Punk and Bryan were the most popular wrestlers in the world at one stage, and they have been atrocious since coming in. They have wasted so much potential.

What I don’t get is the constant painting of WWE in a positive light. They have the name and reputation, sure, but their product is arguably worse than AEW and their prime show is unwatchable. I don’t get why you are so severe on AEW, but let WWE off the hook.

Their acts are so much staler than those in AEW. I can only imagine an 100 million lead in to Raw getting to watch Happy Corbin, Doloh Ziggler and the most tired stable in wrestling, New Day, aiding them navigate 3 hours of trash.

All the same problems exist. As an example, instead of giving us a compelling New Day break up that could have elevated two guys into an intriguing world title feud, they just half ass it and keep them together because the guys enjoy it and it sells merch. The reunion would sell the merch too, give us the story first!

There is no compelling TV, there is no selling or psychology, and there is nothing to make you want to care about the story, but it goes for both companies. They are both making the same mistakes.

Great matches was never what wrestling was about, and it wasn’t why the majority of people tuned in. Austin’s best run came at his most immobile because the story and the character had people hooked and gave us a true star. It’s the stories and the stars and it always was. I think that fact is lost to both companies.

Tons of great points on this page, but here is a counterpoint:

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EIGHT posts in a row. Oof. Could be an all-time record.

Actually it was about 7 and a half hours ago. You’re getting desperate for a W and embarrassing yourself again. Wanna talk about it?

LOL no, you are clearly referring to the "number of posts made in a row" comment, which evidently stuck in your craw, so much so that you couldn't WAIT to redirect it at somebody else :rofl:

Why did that bother you so much that you are now trying to play it off after bringing it back up anyways?

How miserable do you have to be to wish for a company's failure just because it didn't pan out exactly the way you wanted it to. It's quite sad. Some people are beyond saving.

This dude thinks he is CM Punk after fighting in the UFC

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To be honest, almost everyone is done with your posting style. It was amusing at first but got stale in a minute. And then it transformed into something abhorrent. You're not adding anything of value to the forum. As a matter of fact, your posts are so detrimental that you've driven people away from the wrestling forum.

I'd argue that in fact it has been pretending CM Punk is credible that has driven fans away from wrestling, and thus posters away from wrestling forums.

There isn't a modicum of sincerity in that post. Not everyone here likes CM Punk but they aren't as dense as you. Start acting your age.

@noid


with MJFs size using him right is making him a chicken shit heel in your undercard. he's a little dude next to little dudes. you put him next to grown men and he's going to look like a ring announcer

There absolutely is, AEW was cooking before Punk came in and started beating everybody. His first promo he told Darby "the most dangerous thing you can do is get in a ring with me", like he isn't the dude that got tickled like a baby and flipped around his emo hair while doing twirlees.

I try to bring up these valid reasons why Punk shouldn't be going over anybody, and it just gets the ire of Punk fanboys. The only option left is simplistic meme flame wars. If the response is going to be raging Punkers regardless, I might as well get a few chuckles out of it.

You lack self awareness and come across as very immature for your age. Is this your idea of a discourse when you have a disagreement with someone?

We agree on many talking points but I refuse to associate with you anymore because of your conduct. You've become pathetic over time.

the punk issue is a real one. if you claim credibility is irrelevant you should ask yourself why lesnar coming back worked so well. there are ways you could have nursed punk back to health (though he should never get near a top guy or even an undercard title again [EVER]) but to have him go back to pretending to be tough day one was a massive blunder

I couldn't agree more. Credibility plays an important role as perception means everything in professional wrestling. The thing about fans is that they're very forgiving when it comes to their heroes. It's very hypocritical.

i do think there was a path to redemption for his characters image but its a path that had to walked. had to. one punks ego likely never noticed was needed. skipping that step hurts everyone he works with. both directly and indirectly.

I'm not sure what that would've looked like. Fans would've probably revolted if he was booked differently. I guess he's a big enough / recognizable name to challenge for the world title at Double or Nothing. I just hope Page retains.

Why is every title in AEW a world title?

AEW World Championship
AEW Women's World Championship
AEW World Tag Team Championship
FTW World Championship
ROH World Championship
ROH Women's World Championship
ROH World Tag Team Championship
ROH World Television Championship

It's just very daft.

Punk is def big enough to draw in the core AEW crowd but there's a stigma that creates a clear plateau. i dont think he can grow the brand to reach even peak TNA/Impact numbers let alone anything beyond that due to the stink MMA put on him. i think the average person who knows who he is sees him, laughs, and changes the channel.

You are half right, I am quite aware actually, but yes I am purposefully being immature. When the only response to valid criticism is name calling and accused agenda pushing, well I got to the point where I could just stop posting, or I can really lean in and do exactly this.

Would you believe Fan and I were quite cordial for many months. Then Punk came back, I wrote my opinion much like Destor's post, a take that I did not think rocketing Punk was good. Fan and I had a few disagreements based around Punk, and it devolved and devolved and devolved, and here we are.

Its not even the first time i've done this, with the dumbed down memes, and eventually it worked out, and things were good. Sure, maybe that coincided with the timeframe of AEW that I thought they were really rolling (after the bomb that was Revolution up until after Full Gear), but I would like to think simply posting "DUBBAD" wouldn't have been enough for such anger.

Saying I am purposefully going over the top, absolutely. To suggest I am being insincere when I say I dislike CM Punk as a person, that he is an utter hypocrite, that I think he has zero credibility, or that I think featuring him at the top of the card is the biggest reason their ratings have continued to dwindle, well I assure you that is not a put on. I think the guy is the same bitter jealous mark he has always been and AEW is worse for hitching their wagon to him.

A hundred percent. Anyone outside of the wrestling bubble is going to judge him him by his UFC record.

i think its roughly half of the wrestling bubble too. but yes.

So you had the option to not indulge and be mature about this but you chose otherwise. And I'm certain that anyone who has ever posted here is aware of those horrendous memes you use to plaster everywhere.

Once again, your opinion on CM Punk isn't unique. A lot of people share that. It's just that when have a disagreement we do not degrade ourselves to spamming the forum with garbage memes. Logical reasoning or being rational isn't your strong suit.

I'd say that's a bit of a stretch but there's certainly a sizeable crossover.

I guess it's safe to assume that the AEW fanbase and the hardcores will be receptive to a world title win. Even if it'd be a terrible decision considering how much they've invested in Page since the company started.

the aew base would love it

AEW gets a lot of leeway as far as criticism is concerned. The recent TNT title changes have been a detriment to the perception of the belt. Felt like it had more luster when wrestlers like Cody, Miro, and Darby held it.