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The Destroyer 05-23-2012 03:56 PM

Odds are he's going to be a secondary villain anyway, if Kingsley really is the Mandarin.

Fignuts 05-23-2012 05:31 PM

Still

Cold blood?

McLegend 05-24-2012 03:16 AM

It's not a bad name though.

Skippord 05-24-2012 08:52 AM

they should have gotten Phillip Seymour Hoffman to play him as Truman Capote

Corporate CockSnogger 05-25-2012 05:31 AM

Third villain, Firepower, apparently going to be added to Iron Man 3

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/iron-m...-a-new-villain

Skippord 05-25-2012 05:45 AM

Firepower and Cold Blood will not get along

Corporate CockSnogger 05-25-2012 06:03 AM

Is it likely they'll just be henchmen for The Mandarin or something?

Kalyx triaD 05-25-2012 08:03 PM

Marvel Characters, Disney Style:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17nq...g/original.jpg

Shadow 05-25-2012 08:31 PM

I'm ok with some but not all.

Ya feel me? Though Deadpool...fucking Deadpool

dronepool 05-25-2012 08:34 PM

Deadpool made me laugh in that pic.

Nark Order 05-25-2012 11:07 PM

Deadpool is violating Kitty's innocence.

Kalyx triaD 05-25-2012 11:11 PM

Colossus violated that years ago.

Fignuts 05-26-2012 02:50 AM

Kind of shocked that people still remember Marrow.

The Destroyer 05-26-2012 02:53 AM

Don't remember seeing her in anything since she appeared in an X-Factor arc a few years back.

loopydate 05-26-2012 06:24 PM

That looks a lot like the X-Men Evolution style.

El Fangel 05-26-2012 06:57 PM

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/20996498.jpg

Lock Jaw 05-30-2012 05:47 PM

Iron Man 3 Movie Set Pic (villain):


Kalyx triaD 05-30-2012 08:14 PM

Well...

SPOILER: show
If they found a way to adapt Iron Patriot, with a new villain using the suit, I'd love to see how that happens.

Reavant 05-30-2012 11:31 PM

WTF? how can they work that out? the character that wears that is owned by sony... soooo how can they use it?

KIRA 05-30-2012 11:50 PM

I had this discussion with my nephew A week ago and Its been paraphrased on the Venture Bros. but Marvel really does come in second to DC in terms of badass villians IMO (keep in mind I am a comic book fan period therefore I have no real bias)storytelling and Character-wise I mean they have me actively reading Animal Man.

Kalyx triaD 05-30-2012 11:52 PM

Perhaps a strange but sensible loophole like the Magneto kids. Think about it, would Osborne be allowed to use a Stark suit in the new Spidey trilogy? Like I mused about Magneto's kids, this setup yields the least questions in the mainstream eye, in the same way Witch/Quicksilver being in X-Men movies would be more acceptable than in an Avengers movie.

Kalyx triaD 05-30-2012 11:54 PM

I must emphasize; 'in the mainstream eye'.

Krimzon7 05-31-2012 07:15 AM

Fucking fuck! I'm happy to see any pictures from IM3!!!

Shadow 05-31-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 3875233)
WTF? how can they work that out? the character that wears that is owned by sony... soooo how can they use it?

Easy...Norman doesn't exist in this universe. They stick someone else in the suit. It's really not hard.

LuigiD 05-31-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 3875240)
I had this discussion with my nephew A week ago and Its been paraphrased on the Venture Bros. but Marvel really does come in second to DC in terms of badass villians IMO (keep in mind I am a comic book fan period therefore I have no real bias)storytelling and Character-wise I mean they have me actively reading Animal Man.

I like both companies but if anything..one of the most common complaints I hear about DC from fans and haters alike..is the crappy gallery of villains. With the exception of some, there really is not much going on. In Marvel, the villains are more legendary..often..being more popular than the heroes.

Reavant 05-31-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 3875686)
Easy...Norman doesn't exist in this universe. They stick someone else in the suit. It's really not hard.

uuuhhhhh no not that easy. Norman Osborn is Iron Patriot. Thats like saying the same exact thing for green goblin or the venom symbiot

Fignuts 05-31-2012 07:02 PM

No it's not. Green Goblin and Venom are iconic villains in the marvel universe. Iron Patriot is an Iron Man suit that Osborn wore for a few months.

Not that big a deal.

Fignuts 05-31-2012 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 3875240)
I had this discussion with my nephew A week ago and Its been paraphrased on the Venture Bros. but Marvel really does come in second to DC in terms of badass villians IMO (keep in mind I am a comic book fan period therefore I have no real bias)storytelling and Character-wise I mean they have me actively reading Animal Man.

Completely disagree.

First off, as far as storytelling goes, it doesn't matter if it's marvel or dc. That comes down to the writer. I do think it's easier to write character driven stories in Marvel, because that was the whole basis of silver age Marvel, and it still shows today.

I will give DC credit in that they typically do the big epic crossover better.

Most of the DC universe doesn't do anything for me, but there's a lot of Marvel stuff that sucks me in.

Reavant 05-31-2012 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3876123)
No it's not. Green Goblin and Venom are iconic villains in the marvel universe. Iron Patriot is an Iron Man suit that Osborn wore for a few months.

Not that big a deal.

ok so spiderman wore an ironman spider suit for a couple of months so then they shouldnt have a problem using that on too?


and its not just the goblin who is iconinc, but norman is just as iconic and he IS the iron patriot

Fignuts 05-31-2012 07:58 PM

The Spidey Suit looks like Spider-man so it wouldn't make sense. Anyone can throw on the IP armor.

It doesn't matter how iconic osborn is, the Iron Patriot suit isn't. It wasn't even originally designed for Osborn. The suit first showed up as just some random Iron Man art, and like a year later they used it for Osborn.

If you seriously have beef with this, then you probably hated IM 2, considering Whiplash was actually an amalgam of Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo.

Kalyx triaD 05-31-2012 08:02 PM

What Figgy and me are saying is the Iron Patriot armor showing up in an Iron Man movie makes more sense and causes less drama than, say, Norman busting it out in Amazing Spider-Man 3. Which raises more questions? Stark armor in a Stark movie or it being in Spider-Man, which would look strange no matter what the 616 history says.

And there's a underlying thread of patriotism in the MCU, where an Iron Patriot appearance would yield 'good' drama - if anything but for the countless Cap references RDJ can improve in a post-Avengers period. Norman as Iron Patriot would make Reavant and 14 others feel good but I tell you it would not work.

It's Iron Patriot here or not at all in movies.

Fignuts 05-31-2012 08:04 PM

Also, from a legal standpoint, the Iron Patriot Name and Costume probably has a separate trademark from Osborn, considering it was created after Sony aquired the Spidey license.

Kalyx triaD 05-31-2012 08:06 PM

You gotta know when to bend for these movie adaptations, this much I learned since comic movies really picked up. Some mix-ups are blunders (Dr. Doom), others are fairly reasonable (Wolverine and Sabretooth established unambiguously as brothers in the XM movie-verse).

Fignuts 05-31-2012 08:07 PM

Also, that might not even be a villain. Might actually be stark making a promotional appearance ala the stark expo, and they made it like the Iron Patriot as a bit of fan service.

Kalyx triaD 05-31-2012 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3876184)
Also, from a legal standpoint, the Iron Patriot Name and Costume probably has a separate trademark from Osborn, considering it was created after Sony aquired the Spidey license.

Certainly there were discussions, Marvel Studios isn't that sloppy. If Witch/Quicksilver is anything to go by, they're ready to avoid any legal missteps ahead of time.

And Sony more than likely has no interest in Norman's Iron Patriot stint with so much Spidey history they can draw from for many more movies.

Kalyx triaD 05-31-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3876187)
Also, that might not even be a villain. Might actually be stark making a promotional appearance ala the stark expo, and they made it like the Iron Patriot as a bit of fan service.

Yeah could be an easter egg deal. People aren't even sure if the guy in the pic is an actor or a stuntman. And I found it weird that they would actually have an actor in a fully armored scene, which is what that scene looked like.

Fignuts 05-31-2012 08:14 PM

Looks like it's only from the waist up.

Lock Jaw 05-31-2012 08:18 PM

Speaking of Norman Osborn... I hope that if he shows up in any Amazing Spider-Man sequels, they find some way to adapt his ICONIC hairstyle into the movie.

dronepool 05-31-2012 08:25 PM

Plus besides comic fans, who knows of Iron Patriot? He was just a brief alter ego.

Kalyx triaD 05-31-2012 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3876195)
Looks like it's only from the waist up.

He has mo-cap tags on his legs, guess they'll be in post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dronepool (Post 3876209)
Plus besides comic fans, who knows of Iron Patriot? He was just a brief alter ego.

:y:


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