Pretty sure TNA still beats them out.

The Undisputed Championship and the WWE World Heavyweight Championship are not separate entities. My post is through, mate :cool:

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What is new are the companies blackballing her this time for fucking once. Rosemary is apparently well liked and she was really nice on the New Legacy stream when she jumped on too, so she's been pulled from shows and even Cody has said she will not be on any show he's on (and he can probably make this demands tbh), so at least shit is happening.

I'm not even including when titles just changed their look (winged eagle, spinner, etc...)

1. WWF World Title
2. WCW World Title
3. Undisputed Title (Eventually the Smackdown "WWE Title")
4. World Heavyweight Title
5. ECW Title (Was even an option for the Royal Rumble winner. lol)
6. WWE Title part 2 (The one Rey Mysterio won, lost to Cena and then Cena lost to Punk in a unification match)
7. Re-unified WWE World Title
8. Universal Title

Was that the rumble stream? I know she donated, but I didn't know she was on it, as I haven't finished the marathon. Which rumble was it?

At some point after the MPire Rumble, think it might have been the Rumble directly after? She's quite quiet though, think she was just in the same place as Andrew Everett and chipping in every now and then.

is she the one married to johny mundo, if so he has heat now with gfw

1, 3, 6, and 7 are under the lineage of the WWE Championship.

That doesn't make things any less convoluted.

3 is a combination of two titles. 6 was a completely different title that existed at the same time as the other WWE title. Just because WWE decided to add a spot in the lineage where there were two champions at the same time, they were still two different titles being held by different people. And 7 is, again, a combination of two different titles that hadn't been unified before.

All 8 of those are distinctly different titles that were born out of distinctly different circumstances regardless of the lineage WWE chooses to use. It's a mess. Especially for such a short period of time. I can see it over the span of 100 years as companies are coming and going and merging titles becomes a necessity. This is all WWE just being fickle and not knowing what to do though. lol

No, Mundo is engaged to Taya.

IMO, it is the biggest clusterfuck creatively, in terms of why would you want to be (or root for or against) a wrestler if there's no clear definition of who the best in the world/company is and so there's no ultimate goal for the wrestler's career. I know, kayfabe is dead, blah, blah, blah. If you don't treat it somewhat consistently seriously though (and this is just one of the (many) ways WWE has simply shit on their own product), then what's at stake and the outcome has no importance. As a result, there's no reason for me to actually or even want to tune in to watch.

Kayfabe aside, shit has to matter in the story.

I love when people talk about how the outcome of the matches don't matter and the titles are just props. Until WWE starts building shows based on angles and WrestleMania is being headlined by simply a heated confrontation, the match outcomes better matter and the titles better be a pretty important/prestigious prop or else why the fuck is anyone supposed to care?

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Technically you are correct, but that has no bearing onto how things are perceived. If eight actors play one character in a TV show, you can still say "Hang on, it's only one character -- chill out," but if people are seeing the mechanics of it all, then it really doesn't matter.

To the layperson -- someone perhaps not technically researching title histories -- having the WCW Title change its name, the WWF Title unified with it, a new belt come in, a new old belt come in opposite that, a third belt introduced, one of those belts dropped, the remaining two belts smooshed together, a new belt created opposite it could get quite overwhelming.

It's about as ridiculous as saying "the stakes don't matter in a story." Um, okay? So why I am reading this book, or watching this movie? The belts are your easier way to introduce stakes. "I want to be the best!" "No, I am the best!" "Let's fight and see who is the best!" They're not the only stakes you can have, but they are certainly stakes. When you take the importance of them away, you might as well be saying "This doesn't matter." Every time a champion loses a non-title match, that's my emotional response. "Okay, being the champion means nothing. So why I am watching?"

A championship should be the answer to the question "Who is the best?" If you have two champions, you really don't have two champions -- you have two contenders. They should fight to find out who is the best.

I think this issue is underrated in terms of how off-putting it would be to casual fans. When it comes to comic books, cartoons, combat sports or wrestling, one of the most innocent and base pleasures of those forms is "Who would win between..." You want to know who the most bad-ass is. When you have "two World Champions" you are instantly negating that knowledge as a possibility.

Not that there is any doubt as to who is better between Brock Lesnar and Jinder Mahal, haha. But how is being WWE Champion supposed to mean something if everybody knows there is someone who can kick the champion's ass?

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So just announce Cena V Reigns on a social media video giving them no real build, reason to fight or anything of the sort other than to make a PPV with a D-tier name value mean something. Are subscriptions down or something?

D-tier name? It's the name used on one of the best wrestling games of all time.

Agree with everything else though. They talked for like 20 seconds on Raw about having this match before being interrupted by the Miz. Also Cena not taking it seriously at all on Raw makes this feel so stupid right now.

If its like the Cruiser title change and other head scratching decisions, purely done to artificially spike RAW's rating for the week.

WWE has only 2 weeks left before the NFL season onslaught begins.

His replacement will be Downtown Bruno!

I want to see his ascent and how long the guy had to just lie down on that table. It should also be set to the Benny Hill Chase song.

But will this work as a ratings spike? We already knew both dudes would be at the show and now instead of looking to see tension build and seeing if there's an interesting way to get there, well have the usual "hurrr you're a part time, no I'm not!" Cena and opponent in-ring promo.

Remember when wwf didnt fear nfl season. Good times.

Remember when WWF didn't fear Love & Hip Hop?

A distant memory :-(

We need CyNick back to bolster our spirits!

I think it was always on their mind. Not as bad as now. It would take a lot of research but I don't think Raw has ever beaten MNF in the ratings even during the height of it's popularity. Football has always been king.

But they still kicked ass with their ratings regardless. Thus, they didn't fear NFL. Their ratings are so piss poor now they can't handle losing ANY viewers.

Ratings are pretty much meaningless nowadays

Wouldn't say meaningless but they certainly don't quite carry the same weight. Ratings sank well before they stopped meaning as much, still.

Xavier Woods rumored to have suffered a knee injury during Monday's house show for Smackdown.

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Dean and Rene being adorable together <3

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Never knew this existed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWF_Wo...t_Championship

Yeah, I have a couple shows where Inoki defends it. He defended it at the Showdown at Shea in 1980 against Larry Sharpe which I have and I think he defended it against Charlie Fulton at an 1984 MSG show that I have.

Wasn't it a "bullshit" title? I mean, he was led to believe he was supposed to win the WHC, but WWF wasn't keen on having a world champion that wasn't contracted and as a result, Inoki got the bait & switch? I think I might be confusing stories here and am actually just looking for clarification.