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Mr. Nerfect 02-18-2017 11:23 PM

The Revival would only be called up if they are going to be on the main show. The SmackDown Tag Division is basically a group of people standing around asking "Where are The Revival?". American Alpha feel like they haven't properly connected as a babyface team largely because they haven't had that charismatic match yet. It's obvious that not everyone watches NXT, but the reputation of certain acts precedes them. Alpha have got that hype but are basically around jobber teams all the time.

That you could have a tag team division on one of the shows that consists of American Alpha, The Revival and Gargano & Ciampa seems like a sure-fire can't fuck it up sort of thing. You can have The Fashion Police as a slightly lower heel team and maybe move The Shining Stars over to be a babyface companion team to them, since they are doing absolutely nothing of note on RAW. It'd be a division very similar to back in the SmackDown Six days.

Jordan 02-19-2017 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4930645)
It'd be quite early to put it on, but I'm imagining a deliberate streak of three great matches back-to-back, just as a flexing point to prove that you can do it and start the show off as a drool-fest. Can you imagine opening with Alpha vs. The Revival, moving onto Ibushi and Neville for the Cruiserweight Title, then hammering people with Cena vs. Styles?

Another possibility, although I do feel that the show is definitely long enough, is that Sami Zayn doesn't end up in the six-man. He feels like a natural fit, but you could very easily still do Zayn vs. Nakamura II and hype it as the match that stole the weekend last year. That way you open up a spot in the six-man for the returning Balor. It feels a bit weird to have both guys return in a match, but Jericho could hype it as his dream team being put together or something.

Another possibility, although we might be getting a bit off-course here, is that Triple H leads a 5-man team against Jericho for an Elimination Match -- sort of as a "Flavor of Survivor Series" deal. The heels that join Triple H are Braun Strowman and Rusev, with Jericho having Rollins, Zayn, Balor and the debuting Nakamura. But is that too many "fresh faces" for a big Mania match?

Another possibility is that you do the Sheamus/Cesaro split and insert them into that tag program. Or you can throw them in to balance out the babyface side. I feel like you really have to have Sami Zayn in there though. He might look weak if he doesn't go against Owens and Joe. Maybe you then run an Elimination Tag at the next PPV and then a WWE version of War Games at the next one? You probably just use the Hell in a Cell and have people get eliminated by pinfall or submission.

Triple H, Kevin Owen, Samoa Joe, Rusev & Sheamus vs. Chris Jericho, Seth Rollins, Finn Balor, Sami Zayn & Cesaro. Eh, it feels like "too many" people, honestly. At least for WrestleMania. You can work up to it for other PPVs.

Dude Ibushi wrestles for NJPW it's not happening, he's started a program with Okada.

Mr. Nerfect 02-20-2017 04:14 AM

Has he signed a contract or is he still doing his free agent shit?

Mr. Nerfect 02-20-2017 04:16 AM

If he hasn't signed a contract, I imagine he'll be somewhere in Orlando WrestleMania weekend. Hell, I think he's been doing shows around the WrestleMania location for a few years now even before he started a relationship with the WWE. He'll probably be on NXT Takeover, if anything, but I don't think him versus Neville is entirely out of this world as a possibility.

XL 02-20-2017 06:12 AM

Not impossible but highly improbable. I can't see WWE giving any shine to one of the few guys that didn't sign a contract when so many of their CW guys need it.

Emperor Smeat 02-20-2017 03:54 PM

According to TMZ, New Day are going to be the hosts for Mania this year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMZ
Get your Booty-O's ready ... 'cause THE NEW DAY has officially been tapped to host WrestleMania 33!

It's a HUUUUGE honor -- Big E, Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods broke the news on "TMZ Live" and said they're psyched ... since they'll essentially be the faces of the biggest WWE event of the year!

It all goes down in Orlando, FL on April 2 and the guys are already brainstorming ideas so they go down as the greatest WrestleMania hosts EVER ... a list that includes The Rock, John Cena and Kim Kardashian (she hosted in 2008).

"Our main goal is to have as much fun as possible because if were having fun, everybody's having fun!"


Also a rumor going around the net was a possible tag match idea between New Day & Shaq vs Big Show and his team got dropped.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">guess Shaq backed out of the tag match <a href="https://t.co/yoKSZpMkCr">https://t.co/yoKSZpMkCr</a></p>&mdash; Brian Maxwell Mann (@BrianMaxMann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianMaxMann/status/833779669669404674">February 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Big Vic 02-20-2017 03:58 PM

I wasn't watching at the time, did Kim Kardashian really host in 2008?

XL 02-20-2017 04:16 PM

She did. Did some of the backstage interviewing stuff too.

XL 02-20-2017 04:18 PM

Looking forward to the New Day/Hogan segment where they give him clemency for being a massive racist. Then Ron Simmons walks in with a "DAMN!"

Emperor Smeat 02-20-2017 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4931160)
I wasn't watching at the time, did Kim Kardashian really host in 2008?

Yeup although didn't really do anything outside a couple of announcements and segments.

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The CyNick 02-20-2017 05:01 PM

The sheets missed this one.

Mr. Nerfect 02-20-2017 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4931041)
Not impossible but highly improbable. I can't see WWE giving any shine to one of the few guys that didn't sign a contract when so many of their CW guys need it.

I see your point there, but they are also a bunch of geeks who aren't over and don't "deserve" a WrestleMania spot any more than Ibushi does. They should probably thank him for getting their division over (when he does do it).

Mr. Nerfect 02-20-2017 07:32 PM

It saves putting them in a match at Mania.

slik 02-20-2017 08:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheKentonLane">@TheKentonLane</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DavKind76">@DavKind76</a> this is apparently what the card is going to be. Thoughts? <a href="https://t.co/RAnw5F7zqT">pic.twitter.com/RAnw5F7zqT</a></p>&mdash; CHARLIE (@Charlie_Heel) <a href="https://twitter.com/Charlie_Heel/status/833856634170523649">February 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Jordan 02-20-2017 09:01 PM

Well that's a great card.

Emperor Smeat 02-20-2017 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4931357)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheKentonLane">@TheKentonLane</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DavKind76">@DavKind76</a> this is apparently what the card is going to be. Thoughts? <a href="https://t.co/RAnw5F7zqT">pic.twitter.com/RAnw5F7zqT</a></p>&mdash; CHARLIE (@Charlie_Heel) <a href="https://twitter.com/Charlie_Heel/status/833856634170523649">February 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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:lol: Charlotte going in as champ. Not surprised at all the WWE would pull a Sasha with Bayley's title reign if that happens.

WWE title match being a potential triple threat looks great.

Evil Vito 02-20-2017 10:58 PM

The Champions vs. Champions Tag Match would feel lazy as hell.

Jordan 02-20-2017 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4931644)
The Champions vs. Champions Tag Match would feel lazy as hell.

I don't think so. Once Alpha pins The Uso's again, they will have cleared out Smackdown!, makes sense to me.

Emperor Smeat 02-20-2017 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4931644)
The Champions vs. Champions Tag Match would feel lazy as hell.

Could solve it with some sort of big incentive like winner gets to become unified tag champs and winning brand gets the entire tag division. Wouldn't be the first time a division was up for grabs since the WWE did it for the Cruisers.

Might need to disband a team or two so its not bloated and WWE pretty much would be implying it was a mistake to split the division though.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-20-2017 11:37 PM

I like the idea of unifying the tag belts. Wish they'd go the same route with the women's title.

Evil Vito 02-21-2017 08:48 AM

lol unifying the tag belts months after they were both created. That'd be so fucking dumb.

Evil Vito 02-21-2017 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 4931708)
I don't think so. Once Alpha pins The Uso's again, they will have cleared out Smackdown!, makes sense to me.

Pretty sure Alpha/Usos is gonna be a Pre Show match rather than them blowing through it before Mania.

Jordan 02-21-2017 09:03 AM

We still have a ways to go, I don't think they can hold off on such an unimportant match. I bet they make the cross brand tag match like two weeks before Mania.

Maluco 02-21-2017 09:57 AM

AJ/Shane and New Day hosting are both worrying. AJ deserved a better opponent in order to have the best match on the card. Too much New Day is annoying and they have done nothing since losing the belts

Other than that, the card looks fantastic, def has a big time feel and the right mix of part timers and proper stories with build. Good stuff.

Jordan 02-21-2017 10:21 AM

AJ and Shane will probably get a gimmick and will probably have some memorable spots. Hopefully AJ gets the W, and we never see Shane wrestle again.

Big Vic 02-21-2017 10:21 AM

My goodness if Shane gets the W..............................

#1-norm-fan 02-21-2017 10:27 AM

Cena and Taker both on the card and not facing each other is just a tragedy.

Jordan 02-21-2017 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4931917)
Cena and Taker both on the card and not facing each other is just a tragedy.

I see why you'd say that but I feel that if it were on the card it would have such minimal heat. I don't think a face vs face Cena/Taker would be that amazing. I am still holding out hope that Strowman is added to Roman/Taker but I'm not counting on it. I just hope that Taker costs Roman he match with Strowman for eliminating him at the Rumble and thus sets up the Mania match with Taker. Roman is going to beat Taker.

#1-norm-fan 02-21-2017 11:08 AM

I guess Taker costing Reigns his match would be the preferable option to Strowman losing. But then again, it would be kinda weird. It's not like Reigns cheated to eliminate Taker from the rumble. Taker being vengeful and costing Reigns his match because of it would be an odd, petty, heel-ish move on his part. Pretty lazy, too. Not as lazy as when they just had four guys wrestle a match on Raw to see who would face Taker at WrestleMania... but close.

Big Vic 02-21-2017 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4931925)
I guess Taker costing Reigns his match would be the preferable option to Strowman losing. But then again, it would be kinda weird. It's not like Reigns cheated to eliminate Taker from the rumble. Taker being vengeful and costing Reigns his match because of it would be an odd, petty, heel-ish move on his part. Pretty lazy, too. Not as lazy as when they just had four guys wrestle a match on Raw to see who would face Taker at WrestleMania... but close.

He did it to Lesnar when he was facing Rollins.

Evil Vito 02-21-2017 12:38 PM

To be fair, Undertaker did go on to say that he accepted that eventually he would lose at Mania, but he didn't appreciate Lesnar and Heyman gloating about it for a year and a half.

Mr. Nerfect 02-21-2017 08:11 PM

I'm feeling rather "blah" about elements of WrestleMania. There feels like "better options" for many of the guys. The Revival for Alpha, Ibushi for Neville, the Six-Man option instead of Triple H/Rollins one-on-one, Cena vs. Styles instead of the Mixed Tag and the Shane match.

Emperor Smeat 02-24-2017 09:36 PM

Seems like Shaq vs Big Show might not happen for Mania. Basis involves a recent interview WWE's website had with Big Show that put some doubt about the match happening.

Mix of Shaq being very busy and Big Show feeling this might be his last Mania and wanted something more meaningful as a parting gift.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer
It feels like WWE may not be so sure about the Big Show vs. Shaquille O'Neal match at WrestleMania from this interview with Show on the web site which says:

WWE.COM: Last question: You’ve been very vocal about wanting a match with Shaq at WrestleMania, and you just called him out on Twitter over karaoke and doughnuts.

BIG SHOW: I mean, here’s the thing. We shot this off at the ESPY Awards, Shaq said he’s in, I thought this would be a good match for fans to see two giants go at it. And I see Shaq riding around, singing karaoke and stopping in at Krispy Kreme. I’m like, “Hey! If you’re not gonna take it serious, find something else to do!” I’ve given 22 years of my blood, sweat and tears to this business and I’m doing this favor to Shaq. This could be my last WrestleMania. He needs to step up. I’m not trying to be mean, but my time’s valuable. I get it. I don’t have foot powder commercials, car commercials, insurance commercials. I get it. He’s a busy man. But if he’s gonna step in the ring, in my business, at our biggest event of the year? Show me you’re serious. If anything, talk a little trash. Let me know you’re motivated. Because right now? I just get the feeling he’s terrified. He shot his mouth off, he’s in over his head and he’s trying to back out. So just let me know what’s going on, brother.


Jordan 02-24-2017 09:58 PM

Thank GOD.

Jordan 02-24-2017 09:59 PM

They could have Strowman and Show in the Battle Royal, it would be a great story and they could be the final two. Maybe Show wins on a fluke and then Strowman just murders him dead.

Jordan 02-24-2017 10:00 PM

I say that because I love Big Show and it would be the right thing to do to put him over for all the jobs he's done over the years. Give him two minutes to celebrate and then Strowman MURDERS HIM TO DEATH. Then Strowman also murders someone else that night, maybe Taker or Roman or Brock or Goldberg. Either way, STROWMAN MURDERS = RATINGS

mike adamle 02-25-2017 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4932071)
I'm feeling rather "blah" about elements of WrestleMania. There feels like "better options" for many of the guys. The Revival for Alpha, Ibushi for Neville, the Six-Man option instead of Triple H/Rollins one-on-one, Cena vs. Styles instead of the Mixed Tag and the Shane match.

Naw the matches announced are much better than that garbage

Sepholio 02-25-2017 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4931934)
To be fair, Undertaker did go on to say that he accepted that eventually he would lose at Mania, but he didn't appreciate Lesnar and Heyman gloating about it for a year and a half.

He didn't appreciate them gloating about a booked loss for a year and a half in scripted promos.:lol:

Jordan 02-25-2017 09:36 AM

Thank God we got to a new page on this thread.

Ruien 02-25-2017 10:08 AM

You mean having the 2 year build with HHH and Rollins is better with a 1 on 1 match instead of a cluster fuck 6 man tag match?

Ruien 02-25-2017 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 4933563)
Naw the matches announced are much better than that garbage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4933600)
You mean having the 2 year build with HHH and Rollins is better with a 1 on 1 match instead of a cluster fuck 6 man tag match?


mike adamle 02-25-2017 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4933600)
You mean having the 2 year build with HHH and Rollins is better with a 1 on 1 match instead of a cluster fuck 6 man tag match?

Well there's that first and foremost. There's the Cena-Styles match that we've already gotten three times. Especially when you add in the fact that Cena could make The Miz a whole lot more than he is and he's becoming pretty big already, and how beating (or losing) Shane McMahon can result in a very fresh story for AJ Styles. Then there's the fact that Kota Ibushi is wrestling in New Japan this month and isn't even a member of the WWE. And the fact that The Revival haven't even been called up yet and it's almost March, but they deserve a Title match at WrestleMania.

But yeah Noid's card is much better :roll:

erickman 02-25-2017 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4933600)
You mean having the 2 year build with HHH and Rollins is better with a 1 on 1 match instead of a cluster fuck 6 man tag match?

that match was jinxed they better forget about that not ment to happen

Droford 02-25-2017 02:33 PM

Nakamura supposedly might debut on SD this tuesday..

EzekielKane 02-25-2017 08:46 PM

Match of the WEEK : Gree-D vs The Patriot. Check this out its worth it!
 
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What a match folks, Pro Wrestling Superstars are really getting their stuff together. Ive been following their work and I have to say that these guys are on the right track.
In this match, the champion himself, Gree-D wrestles a charismatic young face, THE PATRIOT!
You guys gotta watch it,
Some previews of the action!
http://i.imgur.com/8ej3bZe.jpg

The champion Gree-D calling The Patriot out!
http://i.imgur.com/uQ67fn3.jpg

The All American never backs down from a match!
http://i.imgur.com/8l1r1XA.jpg

The two wrestlers square off!
http://i.imgur.com/0U9ydnW.jpg
Gree-D is in trouble! Did he underestimate the All American power of The Patriot?

#1-norm-fan 02-26-2017 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4933588)
He didn't appreciate them gloating about a booked loss for a year and a half in scripted promos.:lol:

That was the storyline, yes.

There's a big difference between him coming back to cost Lesnar a title match after Lesnar and Heyman heeled it up and antagonized him for a year and a half and him coming back to cost Reigns a match simply because he eliminated him from the rumble fair and square. One is justified and the other would be weird and petty.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-27-2017 04:56 PM

Shaq has said Mania probably isn't happening.

Lock Jaw 02-27-2017 06:26 PM

Mania is probably happening. Don't think they would cancel it.


Shaq just probably won't be there.

Vastardikai 02-27-2017 10:18 PM

I can see it now:

The Wyatt Triple Threat ends with Orton RKOing and pinning Harper for the title. Wyatt walks up to Orton, confused as to what he did. He thought he was in it for family. Orton RKOs him.

The announcers talk about the Viper striking again, and this time, he destroyed the Wyatt family from within. The confetti is flying, the fireworks are going off...

and the crowd is shitting all over it.

Discuss.

Evil Vito 02-28-2017 04:59 PM

I think Orton's popular enough that he wouldn't get booed to that degree. People always pop for the RKO.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-28-2017 05:39 PM

There's been reports that Orton wants to stay heel because he prefers it. Honestly, they've booked the angle so perfectly so far that Wyatt and Orton coming out of Wrestlemania still united even after tension is teased would be fantastic. Hell, you want heel heat, have Randy win it and then on Smackdown, just have him sacrifice himself to Bray in the rematch to take a sister abigail.

Sepholio 02-28-2017 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4934160)
That was the storyline, yes.

There's a big difference between him coming back to cost Lesnar a title match after Lesnar and Heyman heeled it up and antagonized him for a year and a half and him coming back to cost Reigns a match simply because he eliminated him from the rumble fair and square. One is justified and the other would be weird and petty.

Weird and petty like how undertaker went after maven when he elimated him from the rumble? Reigns stopped him from getting his last chance at the title. That's enough reason for taker with the way he's always been booked.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-28-2017 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4934477)
Mania is probably happening. Don't think they would cancel it.


Shaq just probably won't be there.

Can you imagine a Mania without Shaq though? I know I sure can't.

Lock Jaw 02-28-2017 06:18 PM

Yeah, good point.

#ShutItDown

Emperor Smeat 02-28-2017 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 4935094)
There's been reports that Orton wants to stay heel because he prefers it. Honestly, they've booked the angle so perfectly so far that Wyatt and Orton coming out of Wrestlemania still united even after tension is teased would be fantastic. Hell, you want heel heat, have Randy win it and then on Smackdown, just have him sacrifice himself to Bray in the rematch to take a sister abigail.

Best case scenario would be just Harper turning face and maybe Bray going more in a tweener route. Way better than Orton going on another face run and Wyatts looking like morons in the end.

#1-norm-fan 03-01-2017 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4935097)
Weird and petty like how undertaker went after maven when he elimated him from the rumble? Reigns stopped him from getting his last chance at the title. That's enough reason for taker with the way he's always been booked.

He was a heel when Maven eliminated him from the rumble. Being an asshole who's mad because he got one-upped fair and square made sense for his character. It doesn't make sense at all for his character now.

XL 03-01-2017 05:44 PM

It's ridiculous that you've had to explain that.

Sepholio 03-03-2017 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4935586)
He was a heel when Maven eliminated him from the rumble. Being an asshole who's mad because he got one-upped fair and square made sense for his character. It doesn't make sense at all for his character now.

I get what you're saying but I see taker differently now. I can't tell you what his character is and haven't been able to for years. He's not around enough anymore to even classify him as a heel or a face. He's just the undertaker. I've seen nothing from him in recent memory to suggest that he wouldn't still be pissed about being one upped. He didn't want to be one upped by goldberg or lesnar in pretty much his only 'promo' in recent memory so why wouldn't he be pissed about Roman up staging him? He's the man who basically only shows for the biggest stage of them all because he can do that, and Roman just took that away from him this year. I don't get where you can glean any kind of insight into his motivations to suggest that wouldn't upset his current character.

Emperor Smeat 03-03-2017 10:26 PM

According to F4W/Observer, Cena vs Joe was the Mania match they didn't want to reveal due to fears of Vince scrapping it if it got leaked out early. Joe was also originally planned to be on Smackdown before recent stuff caused those plans to get changed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...couple_months/


Big Show is blaming Shaq for why their Mania match is rumored to be off now. Implied both guys getting in shape was one of the terms for the match and Shaq didn't hold his end of the bargain. ESPN did imply they weren't completely sure if Big Show wasn't pulling a "worked" promo on them.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPN
"It's on Shaq," the Big Show, whose real name is Paul Wight, told ESPN.com in a recent interview. "He has to figure things out in his own camp. Maybe he is just too scared to show up because he's too busy riding around singing karaoke with John Cena and going to Krispy Kreme and getting fatter every week." "Maybe he doesn't want to put on spandex and show the entire world that Shaquille O'Neal, one of the greatest basketball players of all time, looks like Jabba the Hutt," Big Show said. "It's on him. He has to weigh these consequences in his own mind. Does he want the world to know how fat and out of shape he is or does he want to sit back and talk s--- into a podcast."


Mr. Pierre 03-04-2017 01:02 AM

Couldwouldashoulda but man just replace Styles with Corbin in this Shane feud and it would be much more effective. I actually love the story, but pairing Styles, your best in-ring worker, against a non-wrestler, just irks me.

Rammsteinmad 03-07-2017 02:55 PM

Why do people hate Fatal Four-Ways so much?

At this point I wouldn't be against seeing Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton vs. Luke Harper vs. AJ Styles.

The Wyatt family alone as a triple threat makes sense from a storyline perspective. Styles lost his title, never got his rematch, and has been embroiled in this whole "#1 contenders match" nonsense over the weeks that fuck it, throw him in.

Would be a good match, get's four good workers in an important match, means we don't get AJ vs. Shane, and hell, at least bucks the trend of always having triple threat matches at Wrestlemania.

The CyNick 03-07-2017 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4938476)
Why do people hate Fatal Four-Ways so much?

At this point I wouldn't be against seeing Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton vs. Luke Harper vs. AJ Styles.

The Wyatt family alone as a triple threat makes sense from a storyline perspective. Styles lost his title, never got his rematch, and has been embroiled in this whole "#1 contenders match" nonsense over the weeks that fuck it, throw him in.

Would be a good match, get's four good workers in an important match, means we don't get AJ vs. Shane, and hell, at least bucks the trend of always having triple threat matches at Wrestlemania.

Things will be much clearer after tonight

The CyNick 03-07-2017 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4936566)
According to F4W/Observer, Cena vs Joe was the Mania match they didn't want to reveal due to fears of Vince scrapping it if it got leaked out early. Joe was also originally planned to be on Smackdown before recent stuff caused those plans to get changed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...couple_months/


Big Show is blaming Shaq for why their Mania match is rumored to be off now. Implied both guys getting in shape was one of the terms for the match and Shaq didn't hold his end of the bargain. ESPN did imply they weren't completely sure if Big Show wasn't pulling a "worked" promo on them.

So the never planned Joe vs Cena match didn't get leaked and still didn't happen. Good to see Dave admitting that he was bullshitting one way or the other. Acceptance that you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

Big Vic 03-07-2017 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4935106)
Yeah, good point.

#ShutItDown

#BurnItDown

Big Vic 03-07-2017 03:27 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5zR4ryXEAEvZxz.jpg

Emperor Smeat 03-07-2017 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4938482)
So the never planned Joe vs Cena match didn't get leaked and still didn't happen. Good to see Dave admitting that he was bullshitting one way or the other. Acceptance that you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

Or Rollins getting hurt and Nikki suddenly pushing for something big for her retirement ended up causing potential Mania plans to be changed.

Droford 03-07-2017 06:24 PM

Reigns beats Taker
Lesnar beats Goldberg

Title picture will be "My client beat Taker at WM!" "Big whoop dawg..I did that too..belie dat"

The CyNick 03-08-2017 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4938500)
Or Rollins getting hurt and Nikki suddenly pushing for something big for her retirement ended up causing potential Mania plans to be changed.

No, because Nikki and John teaming was the plan in November.

Emperor Smeat 03-08-2017 09:37 PM

Rumors from Cagesideseats about possible Mania plans.

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Miz’s promo material from the March 7 SmackDown about John Cena & Nikki Bella’s relationship being “for the cameras” and designed to make them more marketable is based on real backstage WWE gossip.

When Dean Ambrose vs. Baron Corbin gets added to the WrestleMania card, expect it to be some sort of gimmick match.

The line-up for SmackDown’s Women’s title match at Mania is left open in hopes Naomi can be cleared and Eva Marie’s schedule is open.

Lock Jaw 03-08-2017 10:06 PM

lol at "in hopes Eva Marie's schedule is open"....... is she not under contract...... just tell her to be there.......

Emperor Smeat 03-08-2017 10:12 PM

Supposedly she's currently busy with promoting her clothing brand and some non-WWE projects at the moment. Decided to get a lot of things done with the vast amount of free time she's had since her Wellness suspension ended and WWE refusing to even use her for house shows.

If it wasn't for Total Divas, she probably would have been let go by now.

Emperor Smeat 03-09-2017 02:50 AM

Some more rumors and news from Cagesideseats about Mania plans:

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  • As of now, there are still no plans for a proper Roman Reigns heel turn, even with the Undertaker match at WrestleMania.
  • WrestleMania is expected to be a 7 hour show this year.
  • The SmackDown tag team titles may not be defended at WrestleMania 33, and it could be the impetus for a post-event storyline for American Alpha/the entirety of the blue brands tag division.
  • Apparently Jerry Lawler will be doing commentary for at least one match at WrestleMania 33.


Evil Vito 03-09-2017 09:31 AM

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•As of now, there are still no plans for a proper Roman Reigns heel turn, even with the Undertaker match at WrestleMania.
Fucking hell.

Big Vic 03-09-2017 09:51 AM

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  • WrestleMania is expected to be a 7 hour show this year.

Fucking hell.

Evil Vito 03-09-2017 10:25 AM

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•The SmackDown tag team titles may not be defended at WrestleMania 33, and it could be the impetus for a post-event storyline for American Alpha/the entirety of the blue brands tag division.
Fucking hell.

Cool King 03-09-2017 11:42 AM

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• Apparently Jerry Lawler will be doing commentary for at least one match at WrestleMania 33.
Great!

Big Vic 03-09-2017 11:57 AM

I hope it's the SDL Womans match and he just constantly says "Puppies!"

Rammsteinmad 03-09-2017 01:46 PM

Seven hours haha! Can't imagine how long and tedious that must feel!

Destor 03-09-2017 02:37 PM

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•As of now, there are still no plans for a proper Roman Reigns heel turn, even with the Undertaker match at WrestleMania.
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Originally Posted by Hasney
Fucking hell.

He's already heel...

Emperor Smeat 03-10-2017 12:02 AM

According to a recent episode of the Observer Radio show, Lesnar ended up being the big reason why the original plans of Shane-Lesnar got dropped. Before it was speculated management were the ones who were against it but turns out it was all Lesnar.

He hated the idea of facing Shane and the storyline they had planned for him but had enough pull within the WWE to get it dropped in favor of him getting someone else. That left the opening for WWE to do more with Goldberg than just have him promote WWE 2k17.

Also seems the reason why the teases Shane had with Ambrose got abruptly dropped was due to the WWE letting Shane pick his Mania opponent. He wanted Styles so the storyline tension with Ambrose got dropped.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Brock was able to get himself out of that match, which he certainly didn't want to do, Shane was gonna work with somebody, so he's gonna pick the best guy in the company (AJ)


Emperor Smeat 03-10-2017 12:23 AM

Also some news regarding Taker-Reigns at Mania.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns. No matter what the long-term plan is as far as Reigns and a heel turn, he will be the biggest heel on the show. The finish here is very interesting. People will passionately hate the idea of Reigns winning, but if the idea is to go to Reigns as the guy to beat Lesnar (which was the plan at WrestleMania two years ago but they held back based on crowd reaction, which has only gotten worse since then), then Reigns shouldn’t lose to Undertaker at this stage of the game. Originally Undertaker was to wrestle John Cena, but Vince McMahon changed it and he has always wanted an Undertaker vs. Reigns match, for whatever reason, at a WrestleMania before Undertaker retires.

Plan B for Cena would have been Joe before recent issues involving Rollins and Nikki likely changed it.

Right now the WWE is considering 2 options for post-Mania plans involving Lesnar with one involving Reigns and the other
SPOILER: show
involving Braun Strowman. Both potential plans involves Lesnar dropping the belt.

Emperor Smeat 03-10-2017 10:54 PM

According to the Observer, Shaq-Big Show has been officially cancelled. Shaq claimed he was back in talks with the WWE for a possible match but Observer's sources said WWE is no longer interested nor were any new talks held.

DAMN iNATOR 03-11-2017 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4939845)
According to the Observer, Shaq-Big Show has been officially cancelled. Shaq claimed he was back in talks with the WWE for a possible match but Observer's sources said WWE is no longer interested nor were any new talks held.

Best news I've read all day. Would've likely been a boring waste of time...and that was BEST-CASE scenario.

Evil Vito 03-16-2017 03:31 PM

John Cena is inducting Kurt Angle.

I'm sure he'll give a fine speech.

Emperor Smeat 03-16-2017 10:48 PM

Some new details regarding the canceled Show-Shaq match.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Big Show vs. Shaquille O’Neal is off. It should be noted that O’Neal showed a photo of himself and he, in fact, was in great shape, so the idea that he hadn’t trained and was out of shape as Show had been saying wasn’t the case. It was very clearly a financial situation since negotiations had been continuing and they hadn’t agreed on a price. One would think that should have been done, and maybe it was done and one side or another changed, when they shot the angles for the match at last year’s WrestleMania and at the Espy Awards in 2016. But Show was confirmed as being in the Battle Royal.


Damian Rey 2.0 03-16-2017 10:50 PM

Great choice for Angle's induction

DAMN iNATOR 03-19-2017 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 4942685)
Great choice for Angle's induction

I'd prefer it to be somebody like Austin or Rock, but not a bad choice...just feels kinda "MEH".

Evil Vito 03-20-2017 02:45 PM

Jim Cornette's inducting the Rock n Roll Express.

Noid's got his lube at the ready.

Swiss Ultimate 03-20-2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4931357)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheKentonLane">@TheKentonLane</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DavKind76">@DavKind76</a> this is apparently what the card is going to be. Thoughts? <a href="https://t.co/RAnw5F7zqT">pic.twitter.com/RAnw5F7zqT</a></p>&mdash; CHARLIE (@Charlie_Heel) <a href="https://twitter.com/Charlie_Heel/status/833856634170523649">February 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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How is Shaq coming out as a flat earther going to affect the match?

Swiss Ultimate 03-20-2017 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4942515)
John Cena is inducting Kurt Angle.

I'm sure he'll give a fine speech.

Jeff Jarrett should induct for obvious reasons.

Maluco 03-20-2017 03:10 PM

Cena isn't really a special attraction, but he can talk and will definitely give him a fitting induction.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-20-2017 03:40 PM

Indeed. Which is why I think he's a fine choice. Excited to hear Kurt's speech.

Volare 03-21-2017 12:54 PM

Just gotta throw it out there because it's been thought of, which means WWE might use it....

Shaq is the "special entrant" in the Andre the Giant BR(again), him vs Show vs Strowman final 3....Strowman takes out both by himself.

#1-norm-fan 03-21-2017 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Swiss (Post 4943959)
How is Shaq coming out as a flat earther going to affect the match?

Florida is actually the corner of the earth. Shaq will win by pushing Show off sumo style.

XL 03-22-2017 04:22 AM

One annoyance for me is how we've arrived at most of the matches, especially the championship matches, whatever happened to the concept of contendership!?

Universal Championship
Lesnar gets a title match by vertue of the fact that he was already booked in a match with the guy who won the title...who just got himself a title match the month prior.

Raw Womens' Championship
Charlotte lost the belt but had her rematch and lost again, still in the match. Sasha and Anita have "earned" their way in.

Raw Tag Team Championship
No winner from a #1 Contenders match leads to a Triple Threat, then one team has to retain their position in the match in one of the most nonsensical matches ever.

US Championship
A personal issue leads to a title match, albeit the contender was the former Universal Champion...who surely should be competing for that belt.

Intercontinental Championship
Personal issue. Guys just book the match.

Even Taker/Lesnar was just sort of slipped on to the card without much fanfare.

There's 4 in-air authority figures but they don't seem all that fussed about booking the shows, and let the guys book themselves most of the time.

Emperor Smeat 03-23-2017 07:32 PM

According to HBK, original plans for AJ Styles were for him to face HBK and not Shane at Mania.

Him rejecting WWE's offer to wrestle and Lesnar rejecting facing Shane pretty much opened the door for Shane vs Styles to happen instead.

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AJ Styles is scheduled to face off against Shane McMahon at Wrestlemania 33. This is a match that has gained a lot of criticism from fans who don’t think that they are a good pairing. After the year AJ has had, WWE fans wanted to see him face an incredible wrestler on the big stage.

It turns out that AJ Styles was originally planned to face an incredible wrestler at Wrestlemania 33, it just fell through…..

The ‘Heartbreak Kid’ Shawn Michaels appeared on the Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast and revealed that WWE wanted him to face AJ Styles at Wrestlemania 33 but he ultimately declined.

“I could’ve had that match, they did not have an opponent for AJ at Wrestlemania”

Shawn would go on to say that he was approached to take on AJ because fans wanted to see the match. It also had to do with them not having any other plans for AJ at the time. Michaels declined, wanting to stay retired.

“I wish that man was here 10 years ago man, I really do”
http://www.iwnerd.com/wwe-news-origi...estlemania-33/

mike adamle 03-25-2017 11:23 PM

Just read that the reason the Big Show/Shaq match has been cancelled is because Shaq is rumored to be appearing on Raw this week to challenge Goldberg and Brock for the belt ans they're gonna make it a triple threat

Emperor Smeat 03-26-2017 03:27 AM

According to PWI, Taker is very likely retiring after this Mania. The recent Rumble ended up being the big turning point for both him and WWE management realizing he's no longer healthy enough to wrestle even with his current laxed schedule.

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Originally Posted by PWI
One of the marquee matches that will take place at WrestleMania 33 will be The Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns. Set up during the Royal Rumble when Reigns eliminated Undertaker, the storyline behind the angle stems from Reigns now claiming the WWE as his yard, without the approval of Undertaker.

Competing in the Royal Rumble was very painful for Undertaker, as he has been dealing with severe hip issues. Unfortunately, it does not look like it is getting any better. One of the biggest discussions backstage during Raw was the status of The Undertaker post-WrestleMania, as he was walking around in a great deal of pain. It was reported that he was not very happy at the event due to the level of pain he was in. As a result, the discussions increased that this year may indeed be the final WrestleMania for the Dead Man.

Celebrating his 52nd birthday this weekend, there are still matches on the table with people such as Sting and John Cena that would still be a big draw. However, with his reported level of pain, WWE executives are coming to the conclusion that this year will be it for The Undertaker, in order for him to undergo major surgery which will most likely end his in-ring career.


Maluco 03-26-2017 06:10 AM

It feels like every year for the past 6-7 Manias, "people backstage are concerned about Taker's health"

He is a legend and i love him, but it gets tiresome to read about him constantly struggling through the build.

Let Reigns retire him as a heel and have that to brag about ad nauseum for the next decade.

If they wanted Cena, it should have been this year and the Sting boat passed them by a few years ago

hb2k 03-26-2017 07:28 AM

Just to drop this in here for our regular listeners, SCG Radio returns this week, as we preview WrestleMania 33. Talking every match and angle building up to the biggest show of the year, the panel breaks down the lay of the land, what's been done well and what hasn't, an outlook on who looks to benefit and suffer, as well as analysing Raw and Smackdown before and after the "Ultimate Thrill Ride". In addition, we talk NXT Takeover and the Hall Of Fame, and the implications on the main roster of both events. Discussing topics ranging from the Broken Hardyz trademark, Brad Maddox's cameraman, Hulk Hogan, Conor McGregor, Kurt Angle and many many more, we look to attack Mania 33 from every angle. And of course, we take your feedback on the feuds you believe have shined or stunk, who should be called up from NXT, and much more. A fun show to get ready for Mania week, check it out and let us know what you think!

https://squaredcirclegazette.podbean...33_Preview.mp3


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