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Evil Vito 04-07-2022 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 5538930)
also ashley d'amboise has a fantastic ass. real top notch stuff.

This is also true.

https://i.redd.it/acq73u46sy271.jpg

XL 04-07-2022 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5539142)
They did their own PPV which Jericho made a surprise appearance at, his first non-WWE appearance in the US in nearly 2 decades, and then Khan started to get involved shortly after that because AEW was officially launched months later.

I don’t think the Elite had any doubts about their ability to sell out a PPV, and I don’t doubt Matt or whoever was pushing to go even further. But I could see why there would be trepidation from some of the group turning it into an actual promotion when the chance came. IIRC the guys were all making good money between NJPW/ROH so it’s not really a surprise that Khan would’ve had to sell them on the vision, no matter how much money he said would be thrown at the project you’re still taking something of a leap of faith.

“WhY do aLL you AEW cultISTS have to ALWAYS mention WWE!?!?”

Mr. Nerfect 04-07-2022 04:50 PM

I don’t know which gimmick is currently my favorite in wrestling: Ezekiel or Dax’s “now I’m a babyface I’m going to be the antithesis to MJF.” He’s saying all these lovely things about Tony Khan and AEW, and a lot of the AEW fanatics are eating it up, but it’s so tongue-in-cheek. :lol:

xrodmuc316 04-07-2022 10:15 PM

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Jordan 04-07-2022 11:24 PM

The pandemic of covid-19 is why big money Shad's net worth fell. It's nothing but a G thang.

Sting Fan 04-08-2022 01:14 AM

Pretty hyped for Yuta vs/ Mox on Rampage. Yuta has been going well lately so for the love of god give him new trunks (pretty sure thats coming after the Dynamite segment) and let him in the club!

How good was FTR vs. the Bucks... ridiculous.

Hopefully Hangman vs. Cole is the end of that and Hangman retains.

Evil Vito 04-08-2022 08:56 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ja" dir="ltr">◢◤◢◤特報 解禁◢◤◢◤<br><br> 【 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> 】<br><br> ⚡️<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a>⚡️<br><br> ����AEWのテレビ中継が<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E6%96%B0%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%89? src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#新日本プロレスワールド</a> で<br>  日本国内配信決定!<br><br> 追加料金なしで<br>最新エピソードを毎週配信!<br>日本語実況バージョンも予定<br><br> << 近日配信開始!>><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njpw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njpw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njpwworld?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njpwworld</a> <a href="https://t.co/P8aKJgJKvN">pic.twitter.com/P8aKJgJKvN</a></p>&mdash; njpwworld (@njpwworld) <a href="https://twitter.com/njpwworld/status/1512354561310310404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

NJPW World to start uploading AEW to their service with plans for Japanese commentary to come soon.

Evil Vito 04-08-2022 02:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An independent study has confirmed that much of the staunch anti-AEW online community aren’t real individuals, it’s a staff running thousands of accounts + an army of bots to signal boost them. Look closely, these aren’t real people. Who’d pay for such a *wildly* expensive thing?</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1512479987672432640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I mean Twitter is basically astroturfing on steroids, I don't think he needed to be the one to say it though.

I suspect it's possible some of his staff are exhausted/exasperated dealing with those accounts constantly clogging up their mentions and messing with the algorithm. Makes it a little more understandable, but still weird to see.

As always, I admire his passion for wrestling and his Twitter account has no impact at all on my enjoyment. But the guy really doesn't know when to shut up sometimes. This pretty much just walks right into the usual stuff people make fun of him for really.

screech 04-08-2022 02:13 PM

It is him running the account and not a staffer, right?

#1-norm-fan 04-08-2022 02:15 PM

WHO IS XROD WORKING FOR???

Evil Vito 04-08-2022 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5539426)
It is him running the account and not a staffer, right?

He definitely runs his own account. At bare minimum it's a split account with a staffer putting up the very basic show announcements but I can't imagine a staffer wanting to tweet out this kind of stuff.

Evil Vito 04-08-2022 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5539427)
WHO IS XROD WORKING FOR???

Is this the moment where xrod is unmasked as xbot? :eek:

ron the dial 04-08-2022 02:22 PM

to the tune of the batman theme
 
da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da

cumdorx!

Evil Vito 04-08-2022 02:22 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Research this one yourselves. You internet detectives thrive in these situations.<br><br>Speaking of wild things:<br><br>You won’t want to miss<a href="https://twitter.com/JonMoxley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonMoxley</a> vs. <a href="https://twitter.com/WheelerYuta?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WheelerYuta</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a><br>@ 10pm ET/9pm CT on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a> TONIGHT!</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1512480599256100869?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Turning it into a Rampage ad is hilarious though.

Sepholio 04-08-2022 04:00 PM

EVERYONE LIKES ME AND IF THEY DON'T THEY AREN'T EVEN REAL A PERSON

Bad News Gertner 04-08-2022 04:36 PM

Lmao what the fuck is wrong with him

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-08-2022 04:45 PM

I love this guy. For all the wrong reasons.

xrodmuc316 04-08-2022 05:37 PM

https://i.imgflip.com/6bxq11.jpg

xrodmuc316 04-08-2022 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5539429)
Is this the moment where xrod is unmasked as xbot? :eek:

Lol I disprove Tony's theory, I am real AND I think Tony Khan is a dbag :rofl:

xrodmuc316 04-08-2022 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5539431)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Research this one yourselves. You internet detectives thrive in these situations.<br><br>Speaking of wild things:<br><br>You won’t want to miss<a href="https://twitter.com/JonMoxley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonMoxley</a> vs. <a href="https://twitter.com/WheelerYuta?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WheelerYuta</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a><br>@ 10pm ET/9pm CT on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a> TONIGHT!</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1512480599256100869?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Turning it into a Rampage ad is hilarious though.

https://i.imgflip.com/6bxr3x.jpg

Fignuts 04-08-2022 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5539450)
Lol I disprove Tony's theory, I am real AND I think Tony Khan is a dbag :rofl:

Exactly what I'd expect a bot to say.

Pretty sus, bro.

xrodmuc316 04-08-2022 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5539455)
Exactly what I'd expect a bot to say.

Pretty sus, bro.

LOL, touche :?:

#1-norm-fan 04-08-2022 05:56 PM

This is the perfect chance for Xrod to excuse his lack of human intelligence. He should take it.

xrodmuc316 04-08-2022 06:00 PM

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Vastardikai 04-08-2022 07:41 PM

Of all the weeks to merge/hide the Twitter Meltdown thread...

GD 04-08-2022 08:23 PM

What is Tony smoking :lol:

Sepholio 04-08-2022 08:37 PM

Bath salts. Very popular in Florida.

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-08-2022 09:18 PM

It was the bots I tellz you.

xrodmuc316 04-08-2022 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5539490)
It was the bots I tellz you.

Braun Strowman has doubts... :rofl::rofl:

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XL 04-09-2022 04:31 AM

He thinks CYN are a threat. How can anything he says be taken seriously?

XL 04-09-2022 04:32 AM

Who are “those British guys”?

GD 04-09-2022 06:48 AM

How did Strowman go from beating Goldberg at WM in record time and becoming world champion to this? He doesn't seem alright.

Destor 04-09-2022 07:32 AM

to what? say the unsaid part

GD 04-09-2022 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5539603)
to what? say the unsaid part

I can't seem to articulate it. He went from being a top WWE project to leading an ill-received promotion with EC3. TV deal imminent.

#1-norm-fan 04-09-2022 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5537615)
Cumdorx Bot 5000 malfunctions sometimes when it gets worked up.

I called this shit over in the WrestleMania thread less than a week ago!

screech 04-09-2022 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5539435)
EVERYONE LIKES ME AND IF THEY DON'T THEY AREN'T EVEN REAL A PERSON

BUT THE INDEPENDENT STUDY

screech 04-09-2022 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5539428)
He definitely runs his own account. At bare minimum it's a split account with a staffer putting up the very basic show announcements but I can't imagine a staffer wanting to tweet out this kind of stuff.

Tony can afford to pay someone enough to tweet all of this. Imagine he hired someone and paid six figures just to tweet for him lol

xrodmuc316 04-09-2022 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GD (Post 5539601)
How did Strowman go from beating Goldberg at WM in record time and becoming world champion to this? He doesn't seem alright.

Not everyone is going to be business savvy. EC3 is Braun's friend and said "hey come do this with me", and now they are selling chicken spices and wrestling once in a while. Dude probably should have bad an agent :rofl:

GD 04-09-2022 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5539638)
Not everyone is going to be business savvy. EC3 is Braun's friend and said "hey come do this with me", and now they are selling chicken spices and wrestling once in a while. Dude probably should have bad an agent :rofl:

He doesn't come across as the brightest. I hope he finds his way back to the WWE. Don't feel like he's interested in doing anything with AEW.

xrodmuc316 04-09-2022 06:51 PM

Now this is how Twitter should be used! :roll:

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Supreme Olajuwon 04-09-2022 07:12 PM

I fully believe that there are bots on social media pushing anti AEW agenda. That seems obvious. But what it completely ignores is the undeniably large population of obsessive internet weirdos on the autism spectrum who spend all their waking hours focused on one topic.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-09-2022 07:12 PM

You can’t tell me it’s a small group of people. We’re a pretty small wrestling community here and we have at least two.

Mr. Nerfect 04-09-2022 07:13 PM

All those matches sound boring. AEW is boring.

Lock Jaw 04-09-2022 07:17 PM

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Jordan 04-09-2022 11:25 PM

Tony is with JR at UFC tonight. Kinda squashes my theory that JR "hates him secretly".

xrodmuc316 04-10-2022 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5539776)
Tony is with JR at UFC tonight. Kinda squashes my theory that JR "hates him secretly".

Or he is just using Tony for Shad's money and good seats :rofl:

xrodmuc316 04-10-2022 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5539776)
Tony is with JR at UFC tonight. Kinda squashes my theory that JR "hates him secretly".

Those DAMN E-Bots hacked UFC just to spell Tiny Khan's name wrong on the broadcast :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: STUUUUUPENDOUS!

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Corporate CockSnogger 04-10-2022 05:05 AM

Lad ease off with that stuff yeah? It’s boring.

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-10-2022 06:23 AM

lol good luck with that

GD 04-10-2022 06:31 AM

xrod's not as bad as Noid but they're both incorrigible at this point.

Evil Vito 04-10-2022 09:32 AM

Noid thought <I>Danielson vs Suzuki</I> was unwatchable. Do you realize how much you have to fucking hate wrestling now to get to that point?

I honestly feel sorry for him that he apparently can’t find any other passions in his life that he enjoys more than dumping on an entertainment medium he stopped finding any enjoyment in probably close to a decade ago.

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-10-2022 09:48 AM

Here's a secret: didn't love Suzuki vs Danielson.

I LOVE Danielson and have liked all his other AEW matches I've seen. Just think the "standing and waiting to get hit" spots are fucking moronic and that was most of the match. Can deal with them in short spurts but when the whole thing is "we're tough men who like getting hit," it's dumb.

That said, I'd watch AEW a million times over WWE. For all the indy bollocks that I don't care for, at least they're trying to make something fun. Really don't like the audience though. There's something very deflating about looking out into the crowd and seeing no diversity. All the same sort of people you'd see at a wrestle-con and nothing else. They need to broaden their appeal beyond "we're the super indies."

#1-norm-fan 04-10-2022 09:50 AM

I still remember when xrod called Kenny Omega Noid’s “boy” because Noid disagreed with him about Seth Rollins. Lol

Noid clearly knows xrod is ridiculous but he has to act like he’s a genius because they have the same agenda and he’s desperate for an ally. Meanwhile he claims to be an honest guy just trying to discuss things “in good faith”. For that reason alone, I put Noid below xrod.

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-10-2022 09:54 AM

For all its flaws, I liked how the attitude era attracted all kinds of fans. You'd have the college kids trying to be edgy, long-time wrasslin fans, families w/kids etc.

Go back even further to before the Hogan era (and the very beginning of it) and it's a real mishmash at house shows, especially. Fun atmosphere.

I look into the AEW audience and it's a bunch of people who look like they only leave their basement to go to the AEW show. And they all do their stupid fucking chants. That's not particularly appealing to the overall aesthetic of the show.

Don't get me wrong--there's nothing wrong with being a basement-dwelling fan. It's just lame when it's all that I see.

They seem to suffer from the WWE problem of not actually knowing how to be cool. Which I guess is a problem many of us have.

#1-norm-fan 04-10-2022 09:56 AM

College kids used to have weekly wrestling watching parties on Monday nights. Seems insane now. Lol

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2022 10:18 AM

Those Nitro Parties do seem crazy nowadays. Brilliant idea by WCW.

Fignuts 04-10-2022 11:13 AM

Yeah, Suzuki is a bit of a novelty but the guy is too old and beat up to give the kind of performance that would make these dream matches live up to the hype.

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-10-2022 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5539813)
College kids used to have weekly wrestling watching parties on Monday nights. Seems insane now. Lol

Interestingly, it was the “coolness” of the nWo that kinda hurt wrestling a lot. When everyone is trying super hard to be cool there comes a point that nobody’s cool anymore. Hard to find the balance.

Mr. Nerfect 04-10-2022 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5539826)
Yeah, Suzuki is a bit of a novelty but the guy is too old and beat up to give the kind of performance that would make these dream matches live up to the hype.

Yeah. I’ve seen some stuff from Suzuki I liked in New Japan. Maybe from 2013/2014. He had an aura about him. In the context of Danielson/Suzuki from AEW, he looked smaller. And the psychology in that match was fucking shit. Two idiots standing around wanting to get hit as hard as they can by another guy is just stupid. Try to win your actual match, please. I turned off Danielson/Suzuki, if I recall, when Danielson lent into a blow from Suzuki that dropped him like a sack of shit. Just horrible.

Danielson, himself, is talented as fuck. Among my favorites. But he’s got that “too nice” thing and can be his own worst enemy. Plenty of other great things in wrestling that aren’t the white noise of two dudes slapping each other as hard as they can for no reason.

Mr. Nerfect 04-10-2022 01:38 PM

I’ve been enjoying the fuck out of FTR. And WWE programming hasn’t sucked as much as it can recently. But don’t try and dismiss me because I don’t like stupid shit like Suzuki/Danielson, lol. That shit isn’t for everyone. It’s why no one watches AEW.

xrodmuc316 04-10-2022 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5539836)
I’ve been enjoying the fuck out of FTR. And WWE programming hasn’t sucked as much as it can recently. But don’t try and dismiss me because I don’t like stupid shit like Suzuki/Danielson, lol. That shit isn’t for everyone. It’s why no one watches AEW.

You have to like exactly everything about AEW, or you are a bot. That has been proven, backed up by independent studies you know!

Mr. Nerfect 04-10-2022 02:37 PM

It’s just the irony that it’s the same people who whinge about “you won’t let us enjoy things” are actually trying to impose their tastes. Like what you like, but there’s room for discussion as to whether it is good or effective or to everyone’s tastes. And that’s fine. It’s okay not to like something.

Fignuts 04-10-2022 04:24 PM

Suzuki is weird, because even a few years ago, he was still having bangers. Its like one day he woke up, and his age and all the years of abuse he put on his body hit him all it once.

XL 04-10-2022 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GD (Post 5539801)
xrod's not as bad as Noid but they're both incorrigible at this point.

Does this need a poll? :?:

#1-norm-fan 04-10-2022 05:11 PM

I’ve stated my case for Noid but Xrod posts more and that might give him the edge.

#1-norm-fan 04-10-2022 05:16 PM

(Noid’s gonna suddenly post in a few minutes by the way to try to bury that post/pretend he’s got me on ignore…)

Mr. Nerfect 04-10-2022 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5539863)
Suzuki is weird, because even a few years ago, he was still having bangers. Its like one day he woke up, and his age and all the years of abuse he put on his body hit him all it once.

That is probably the reality. New Japan gets mythologized too. A lot of people pretend that it’s better than it is (in many cases). Gedo’s great though, and he covers a lot of stuff up. So it’s possible that Suzuki’s gaps get noticed way more as he does freelancing work too. That wouldn’t explain a New Japan slip, but sometimes once you see something you can’t unsee it. It’s also possible that Gedo’s focus on him has changed, as well as his performances slipping with age.

#1-norm-fan 04-10-2022 05:16 PM

:lol:

Jordan 04-10-2022 06:19 PM

The best we can hope for in wrestling is moments. Nobody is going to put out "The Wire" of pro wrestling.

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-10-2022 06:21 PM

Entirely creatively fulfilling pro wrestling relies on kayfabe. Just not possible nowadays.

Jordan 04-10-2022 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5539895)
Actually creatively fulfilling pro wrestling relies on kayfabe. Just not possible nowadays.

Yeah which is why it's all about moments now. Moments like Austin and KO had, or when Austin came out to confront McMahon. Moments like Wheeler bleeding his head off coming an inch closer with each attempt or reversal in his match with Mox, or moments like FTR challenging a perfect match in The Briscoes at Supercard of Honor.

It's tough to convince me that "everyone here" loved Wrestlemania beginning to end, but I know that those who watched it had moments of fandom that reminded you of the best of times.

I think AEW does that for a lot of people because they have an attachment to ROH/PWG/NXT talents, because that's essentially the sum of the roster at AEW. Maybe Noid and Xrod just never got into that scene therefore they don't care about the turbo charged anime style that Kenny and Kota use, or the slam dunk comic book style of The Young Bucks. It's fine. It shouldn't challenge anyone who may have a different opinion to evaluate your own perception of things.

BigCrippyZ 04-10-2022 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5539897)
Yeah which is why it's all about moments now. Moments like Austin and KO had, or when Austin came out to confront McMahon. Moments like Wheeler bleeding his head off coming an inch closer with each attempt or reversal in his match with Mox, or moments like FTR challenging a perfect match in The Briscoes at Supercard of Honor.

It's tough to convince me that "everyone here" loved Wrestlemania beginning to end, but I know that those who watched it had moments of fandom that reminded you of the best of times.

I think AEW does that for a lot of people because they have an attachment to ROH/PWG/NXT talents, because that's essentially the sum of the roster at AEW. Maybe Noid and Xrod just never got into that scene therefore they don't care about the turbo charged anime style that Kenny and Kota use, or the slam dunk comic book style of The Young Bucks. It's fine. It shouldn't challenge anyone who may have a different opinion to evaluate your own perception of things.

I may be in the minority as an AEW watcher, but I haven't seen much of ROH or NXT, except for a few smattering of ROH and NXT highlights/portions of shows/matches I saw, usually because we were watching some old WWE and they wanted me to see something specific from ROH or NXT that I'd never seen. Probably less than 20 hours total of ROH and NXT combined honestly, but I vastly prefer AEW over anything WWE is putting out. I don't even know WTF PWG is.

I will admit I somehow timed it just right and caught the start of both the Cody/Rollins match and Austin/KO live but didn't see anything else. It only happened because my wife and I happened to be re-watching Suits on Peacock and she fell asleep and I remembered that Austin was going to appear at WM. Didn't watch any of Sunday night. It was the first and only WWE stuff I've seen in probably almost 2 years now. The last things I remember seeing from WWE prior are Edge at the empty arena pandemic Mania match and the Austin empty arena Raw appearance sometime either (?) right before or sometime not too long after that. Even prior to that, my WWE watching was so limited/sparse I couldn't tell you what I actually watched before those two. As good as the 2 matches of this years WM I saw were, nothing happened that made me want to tune in to see what happened after. That's the problem.

AEW is far from perfect but they keep me entertained/interested enough to check it out 3 hours a week and the quarterly PPV most of the time.

puroresu fan 04-11-2022 03:36 AM

I don't want to watch Joe vs Suzuki. What is so special about Suzuki? He looks mean and loses a lot. How is he any better than Happy Corbin?

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2022 03:43 AM

In many ways, he’s not. If Corbin went to Japan and hit guys with forearms on the side of the neck really hard, he’d be considered one of the best wrestlers in the world.

puroresu fan 04-11-2022 03:54 AM

Correct. Corbin is the safest wrestler in the company. That's important than being a stiff bastard. Everyone forgot how Goldberg ended Hitman's career?

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2022 05:14 AM

Has Corbin ever hurt anyone or done anything really reckless?

puroresu fan 04-11-2022 07:26 AM

He hasn't hurt anyone but he went broke because of his reckless spending.

Jordan 04-11-2022 09:41 AM

Moxley isn't leaving AEW!!!! HE LIKES IT THERE

Evil Vito 04-11-2022 09:57 AM

Dude wrote AT LENGTH in his book about how miserable he was in the last couple of years of his WWE run and part of the internet have still convinced themselves he's gonna go back lol.

At absolute most I could see him being content just freelancing for the rest of the career but AEW basically let him do that already outside of Wednesdays.

Shit before COVID, Mox was flying to Japan just to do one match over the weekend and fly back. If they get rid of their border restrictions he might be doing more of that. He's a madman.

Jordan 04-11-2022 10:48 AM

Mox is one of the greatest in the world! Mox will live forever in AEW! FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER AND EVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER....

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2022 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5540000)
Dude wrote AT LENGTH in his book about how miserable he was in the last couple of years of his WWE run and part of the internet have still convinced themselves he's gonna go back lol.

At absolute most I could see him being content just freelancing for the rest of the career but AEW basically let him do that already outside of Wednesdays.

Shit before COVID, Mox was flying to Japan just to do one match over the weekend and fly back. If they get rid of their border restrictions he might be doing more of that. He's a madman.

Was this before or after he went to rehab in order to save his life?

Fignuts 04-11-2022 11:13 AM

Well shit man, his time in WWE may have been what started his alcohol abuse.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2022 11:21 AM

Even Dave is reporting that the Warner Bros/Discovery merger may not be the best thing for AEW. Do I think Dave is a reliable source? Not anymore. However, if you are going to believe him or anything, it would be the things that *even* he’s got to confront.

TK has his chance to entrench this thing. It was my complaint from the start. I was actually more optimistic for this than most people, and didn’t see why it couldn’t be more successful than <1 million viewers each week. What are the excuses going to be if/when renegotiations come up for talent contracts and TV contracts and TK hasn’t secured enough of a presence — domestically or internationally — to be able to promise exposure and growth? Why would Warner Bros Discovery not take WWE programming for their networks in 2023/2024 over a promotion they have to split ad rates with and has got a fraction of the global popularity and appeal to sponsors? I’m not being snarky or cynical — can someone actually answer the question?

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2022 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5540018)
Well shit man, his time in WWE may have been what started his alcohol abuse.

Sure. He did show up to the WWE Hall of Fame toasted that time. It’s more likely that it’s the result of some sort of unaddressed trauma from prior to his wrestling career even starting. W. Morrissey — another wrestler who has had to get themselves clean — spoke about rooming with Moxley in developmental days and what a wild party it constantly was.

I’m just saying that when it comes to what an addict says they love and what ends up actually being good for them is not always a 1:1 scenario.

Jordan 04-11-2022 12:53 PM

AEW will survive through any turbulent water the Warner Discovery deal may present! AEW forever! AEW could have big deals with a multitude of networks because they are usually number one on Wednesday nights for cable! Also they could just have their own streaming service and put all their events on there and still be a huge company!

xrodmuc316 04-11-2022 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5540042)
AEW will survive through any turbulent water the Warner Discovery deal may present! AEW forever! AEW could have big deals with a multitude of networks because they are usually number one on Wednesday nights for cable! Also they could just have their own streaming service and put all their events on there and still be a huge company!

What happens when the discovery lady wants all shows to be PG? WCW couldn't adjust to toning it down. ECW couldn't adjust to toning it down.

Tony already has no idea on how book a show without those crutches, he really believes Wheeler bleeding made him a star. He also does not have the mentality to take criticism, and has anybody told him no in his entire life?

What happens when AEW refuses to conform to PG coupled with their already decreasing ratings? If Discovery Warner does offer them a renewal, will it be the giant windfall that has been promised? Considering the sell job Tony has made this entire time is that AEW is gonna make so much money when their TV renewals come up, that losing a bunch of money at the start doesn't matter, what does the business model become if that doesn't happen?

This is not an antagonist question, it can absolutely throw a wrench into everything they have built.

XL 04-11-2022 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5540022)
Even Dave is reporting that the Warner Bros/Discovery merger may not be the best thing for AEW. Do I think Dave is a reliable source? Not anymore. However, if you are going to believe him or anything, it would be the things that *even* he’s got to confront.

TK has his chance to entrench this thing. It was my complaint from the start. I was actually more optimistic for this than most people, and didn’t see why it couldn’t be more successful than <1 million viewers each week. What are the excuses going to be if/when renegotiations come up for talent contracts and TV contracts and TK hasn’t secured enough of a presence — domestically or internationally — to be able to promise exposure and growth? Why would Warner Bros Discovery not take WWE programming for their networks in 2023/2024 over a promotion they have to split ad rates with and has got a fraction of the global popularity and appeal to sponsors? I’m not being snarky or cynical — can someone actually answer the question?

Because WWE lands elsewhere?

Did Warner/Discovery bid for WWE the last time they came up? What’s their line up on a Monday? Is it something they could shuffle out of prime time? Would WWE be willing to give up Mondays - the slot they’ve been in for nearly 30 years?

I appreciate the logic is “they have wrestling now so why wouldn’t they want the most popular <s>wrestling</s> Sports Entertainment brand out there on their network”.

Evil Vito 04-11-2022 03:26 PM

If Dr. Pimple Popper is any indication, Discover isn't really going to care about blood.

drave 04-11-2022 03:30 PM

Totally different situation though. That's key.

Evil Vito 04-11-2022 03:36 PM

Meant it somewhat facetiously but still. I'm actually cracking up at the potential cross-promotion.

Evil Vito 04-11-2022 03:36 PM

Aw fuck they're gonna send Sammy and Tay on 90 Day Fiance aren't they?

Sepholio 04-11-2022 03:46 PM

Does 90-Day Fiance want to have go away heat?

Evil Vito 04-11-2022 03:51 PM

Can they change the rules so I can be Tay's fiance for 90 days?

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2022 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5540063)
Because WWE lands elsewhere?

Did Warner/Discovery bid for WWE the last time they came up? What’s their line up on a Monday? Is it something they could shuffle out of prime time? Would WWE be willing to give up Mondays - the slot they’ve been in for nearly 30 years?

I appreciate the logic is “they have wrestling now so why wouldn’t they want the most popular <s>wrestling</s> Sports Entertainment brand out there on their network”.

I’m not suggesting they lose Raw or SmackDown slots, just that they could take other ones. NXT and Level Up could fill those Dynamite and Rampage slots. Lower ratings, more global exposure, PG, better for sponsors, WWE supported, no ad split. Cody could have talked Vince into using the WCW IP so they can retain use of the trademarks and could bring back Nitro and Thunder for those slots (that’s more of a pipe-dream).

WWE can afford to offer low-ball original programming that they can justify to their other networks by providing more content when their deals get upped. Things like Talking Smack, another show being taped at SmackDown, NXT UK, etc. can be thrown into these deals and be used on Fox Sports, streaming services, etc.

AEW has nothing to offer but Dynamite, Rampage and ramping up the number of PPVs it can do for HBO Max. But are those going to be significant movers for Max? With basic cable as a platform they do, what? 100k, at best, in the US? So is Discovery going to move heaven and earth to be throwing those up every month or every two months for a couple of thousand people?

WWE and Discovery do have some sort of business relationship. Discovery owns an OTT app that WWE airs its content on over in Italy. Things like that can definitely come into play too.

xrodmuc316 04-12-2022 07:23 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2022 09:56 PM

Fuck Tony Khan is a cunt.

Destor 04-12-2022 10:16 PM

pretty fucked Ngakoue would air that shit on twitter. khan handled that pretty well

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-12-2022 10:23 PM

lol it was very "WWE superstar trying to get released from his contract" of him

ron the dial 04-12-2022 10:38 PM

and we all know how stupid noid thinks that is!

puroresu fan 04-12-2022 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5540326)
lol it was very "WWE superstar trying to get released from his contract" of him


Mustafa Ali was very unprofessional. Why fans support him after that stunt is beyond me. He was presented with opportunities and he failed to capitalize.


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