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Nark Order 04-04-2012 02:07 PM

Also, just picked up AvX #1 and managed to get the variant Wolvy/Cap cover. Pretty pumped.

Funky Fly 04-04-2012 02:42 PM

Does the digital subscription include the non-616 and non-ultimate stuff like Criminal? Marvel and DC have a lot of amazing books that are not related to their main shit. A lot of them aren't even hero/villain shit at all.

Nark Order 04-04-2012 02:56 PM

It's a work in progress and there's a missing series and even gaps in some series but it seems like they're probably going to release alot of the non-superhero stuff. They have some of the Ozma of Oz stuff and Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz stuff. Not seeing Criminal. For the most part, it seems to be the Superhero content, but it at least seems like they're trying to make an effort to include the other stuff.

Fignuts 04-04-2012 03:03 PM

I basically pirate everything, and if there is a book I like, I buy the trades.

Nark Order 04-04-2012 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3816176)
I basically pirate everything, and if there is a book I like, I buy the trades.

Yeah, I was doing that for awhile. I like this subscription service so far though.

Kalyx triaD 04-05-2012 04:20 PM

Captain America 2 - April 4th 2014

McLegend 04-05-2012 06:12 PM

No director yet?

I need some more substance in the sequel.

Kalyx triaD 04-05-2012 07:23 PM

There is a list, I'll post it if it isn't here by the time I'm back.

Lock Jaw 04-06-2012 12:16 AM

I hope Bucky comes back.

dronepool 04-06-2012 01:00 AM

He's not dead. Read Winter Solider #1.

Lock Jaw 04-06-2012 01:01 AM

I meant in the movie sequel.

dronepool 04-06-2012 01:02 AM

Oh ok, yeah. I hope he's the Winter Solider by the end or in it..

El Fangel 04-07-2012 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3816132)
Also, just picked up AvX #1 and managed to get the variant Wolvy/Cap cover. Pretty pumped.

Put off reading it for a few days, since I didnt want to wait. Cannot wait til Issue #2, think I am hooked.

dronepool 04-07-2012 11:19 PM

AvX #1 was alright, might get pick up issue 2 and if it's good might wait for the trade for a cheap price on amazon.

El Fangel 04-08-2012 12:09 AM

Loved the final panel.

Fignuts 04-08-2012 01:07 AM

I have kind of a bone to pick with this X-men vs Avengers story.

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So Avengers: Children's Crusade recently finished up, and the whole premise of that book was that the x-men wanted to bring The Scarlet Witch to justice for her crimes. This put them at odds with the Avengers, who believe that Wanda should be with them because she is first and foremost an avenger, and they take care of their own.

So now in Avengers vs X-men, the roles are switched, with the catalyst being Hope. This makes both teams look like giant fucking hypocrites. I mean, Children's Crusasde was kind of a big deal. Several characters died, and a few others long thought dead, returned. Avengers vs X-men is obviously a big deal. So how did they not see this huge contradiction when drawing up the story?

Kalyx triaD 04-08-2012 01:08 AM

Sales?

Fignuts 04-08-2012 01:10 AM

There are a million ways they could have put these two teams at odds. Sales doesn't factor into it.

Kalyx triaD 04-08-2012 01:41 AM

Contradictory message aside, it is a likely scenario. Phoenix is a problem (especially with 5 bars), and the only odd thing is that the Avengers didn't take initiative beforehand.

Fignuts 04-08-2012 01:54 AM

Yeah, that's the other thing. Between Rachel and Jean the potential for another phoenix catastrophe has existed for years, and NOW the Avengers are interested.

It's like the WWE creative team wrote this.


Fucking phoenix. Such a tired concept anyway.

Kalyx triaD 04-08-2012 02:13 AM

I miss her. It. Whatever it is.

Fignuts 04-08-2012 02:31 AM

TRUE STORY

Never cared that much for the whole Dark Phoenix Saga.

Can't really explain why. Maybe because I never really cared for Jean Grey, so a really long storyline focused around her just didn't really interest me?

I dunno.

Fignuts 04-08-2012 02:33 AM

I did like the way Grant Morrison wrote Jean Grey, though. She had a strength, and a subtley wicked edge to her, that was different from previous takes on the character. Made her more interesting to me.

Kalyx triaD 04-08-2012 02:38 AM

Endsong was alright.

dronepool 04-08-2012 02:56 AM

Thoughts on this? Lazy writing or something legit?

http://forums.comicbookresources.com...verine-s-Fault

Fignuts 04-08-2012 03:20 AM

lol

People literally blaming the character of wolverine, instead of bad writers.

The Destroyer 04-08-2012 12:41 PM

Bad writing sounds about right . Who wrote it anyway?

Reavant 04-08-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3819694)
I have kind of a bone to pick with this X-men vs Avengers story.

So Avengers: Children's Crusade recently finished up, and the whole premise of that book was that the x-men wanted to bring The Scarlet Witch to justice for her crimes. This put them at odds with the Avengers, who believe that Wanda should be with them because she is first and foremost an avenger, and they take care of their own.

So now in Avengers vs X-men, the roles are switched, with the catalyst being Hope. This makes both teams look like giant fucking hypocrites. I mean, Children's Crusasde was kind of a big deal. Several characters died, and a few others long thought dead, returned. Avengers vs X-men is obviously a big deal. So how did they not see this huge contradiction when drawing up the story?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3819715)
Contradictory message aside, it is a likely scenario. Phoenix is a problem (especially with 5 bars), and the only odd thing is that the Avengers didn't take initiative beforehand.

There is no real hypocritical messages here because the xmen wanting to punish scarlet witch was because of what she did, the avengers trying to bring in hope is because theyre afraid of what she could do all the while she might simply rebirth the entire mutant race.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3819721)
Yeah, that's the other thing. Between Rachel and Jean the potential for another phoenix catastrophe has existed for years, and NOW the Avengers are interested.

It's like the WWE creative team wrote this.


Fucking phoenix. Such a tired concept anyway.


The reason for them being interested NOW over before is because of the Cable situation in XSanction.

The Destroyer 04-08-2012 01:34 PM

Having just read up on Children's Crusade, sounds like retcon central. Really hate when that happens.

Fignuts 04-08-2012 09:57 PM

The Phoenix has killed billions.

Going after the witch was also as much about what she could do as it was about what she did do.

Both Jean and Wanda were driven mad by an outside force. Both committed atrocities while under the influence of said force.

Fignuts 04-08-2012 10:05 PM

This has actually been a problem at marvel for a while now.

I remember when the current volume of Avengers started. I was excited because I wanted to see how the Thor/Iron Man relationship would play out. After all, last time they met, Thor made it clear that teaming up against the skrulls did not mean they were friends again. And before that, Thor bitch smacked the the red and gold off him.

But no. No tension, no rebuilding, they're just buddies again, as if nothing had ever happened between them.

Like, what the fuck are they smoking over there, that they think this is not noticeable?

Fignuts 04-08-2012 10:10 PM

While I'm on a roll here, let's talk about The Boys. Yeah it's not marvel, but we don't have a third party comics thread, so fuck it. Latest issue came out, and it concludes the main storyline of the book. I assume the last few issues will be epilogue stuff that focuses on where everyone goes from here.

SPOILER: show
So if black noir is stronger than homelander, and they've repeatedly said it would take a nuke to kill the homelander, HOW IN FUCK IS BUTCHER ABLE TO KILL HIM WITH A GOD DAMN MACHINE GUN?


Fuck off Ennis.

The Destroyer 04-09-2012 02:21 PM

I've kind of lost track of The Boys. Should really get back to it.

Lock Jaw 04-09-2012 02:26 PM

Yeah. Kinda stopped after it went to the new publisher. Did not think it was so great anyways. Just Ennis being all "Ennis-y".

The Destroyer 04-09-2012 02:32 PM

Lost track pretty early then, since it went to Dynamite after like 6 issues and it's now up into around the 60s.

Lock Jaw 04-09-2012 03:07 PM

Nah, it went later than that. I remember reading three or four story arcs.

Lock Jaw 04-09-2012 03:10 PM

Ok, nevermind. Checked my extensive files on the matter. Last issue I read was #18. And it did indeed switch publishers after #6.

Fignuts 04-09-2012 09:37 PM

Yeah, it's a decent book. Ennis is indeed very ennis-y here. Very preachy at times. (no pun intended)

Blitz 04-10-2012 06:18 AM

Variety reporting that Bin Kingsley is close to being cast as the villain for Iron Man 3. Dunno who he's playing, but reportedly it's not Mandarin.

The Destroyer 04-10-2012 10:50 AM

That's Sir Ben Kingsley to you.


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