i stood next to him at aew fanfest back in september and he's just a little guy. dunno why i thought he was bigger.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fightful has learned that there have been inquiries about licensing the Hardy Boyz theme that is most synonymous with the duo. The song &quot;Loaded&quot; isn't actually owned by WWE, despite it being used for over two decades for Matt and Jeff Hardy.<a href="https://twitter.com/FightfulSelect?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FightfulSelect</a> <a href="https://t.co/Kk3h6O5Zw1">pic.twitter.com/Kk3h6O5Zw1</a></p>&mdash; Macho Beard™ (@Machobeard4life) <a href="https://twitter.com/Machobeard4life/status/1501680150236250112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fightful Select has learned that AEW has re-signed Miro to a four-year extension, that will keep him with the company until at least the start of 2026. <a href="https://twitter.com/FightfulSelect?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FightfulSelect</a> <a href="https://t.co/FWoVK80IaU">pic.twitter.com/FWoVK80IaU</a></p>&mdash; Macho Beard™ (@Machobeard4life) <a href="https://twitter.com/Machobeard4life/status/1501624846849032195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is Miro even still on TV or did they make him lose to that punk Samy Guevara and then just completely toss him aside for all their new signings?

i know he was out to start to heal up injuries, but not sure what he's doing atm.

I think her name in WWE was Lana

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

this has nothing to do with anything JR said its about having the voice of the rival brand being promoted on your tv.

and to be clear it would be far far worse if it were some petty "and you said bad stuff about me" nonsense

Yeah I agree with that.

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I sure hope they have a plan for Miro.

Miro vs. Hangman would be a barnburner

I really want this to be a thing but I also dont want Miro to lose that feud. I think Hangmans run has more to offer yet.

I'm pretty cold on a continuation of the war of Adams though tbh...

You can just send Adam Page away for a couple of months while you build up Miro, then pretend it was long-term storytelling.

Oh man....apparently Regal's line on Dynamite about not being long for this world wasn't him trying to be overdramatic. He's planning on publicly discussing his health issues for the first time on Jericho's pod.

No sense in speculating on the severity until hearing from the man himself but it's gonna make me appreciate the hell out of him even more while he's still around.

Fuck :(

And now Regal's refuted the severity, so hell yeah. Looking forward to hearing that interview.

I figured he was just saying “look, I’ve put my body through hell with a long career in wrestling and a drug addiction. I’d be surprised if I’ve got more than 12 years left on the clock”.

I haven’t heard the promo, but Regal’s been doing the “I’ve been a naughty boy” thing since he’s been a revered babyface. I wouldn’t have looked too far into it beyond that, other than he might be feeling the toll on his body — combined with years of working a physical style. He would obviously legitimately warn others against his lifestyle, even though on the surface he’s come out kind of smelling of roses.

Going to his mortality is a bit…dark though. I don’t want a fucking doomsday clock put on a manager on a wrestling program.

I haven’t heard the promo lol

Nutted immediately



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So, allegedly some anonymous Higher Up in WarnerMedia doesn't want AEW to sign the Briscoes. A lot of the marks think it has to do with prior remarks Jay Briscoe made in reference to gay people.

Honestly, I think a joke I made on my Booking thread is a more likely scenario.

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I mean, that is just the thing you'd want to see on Prime Time Television, isn't it? And I like their wrestling.

lol incredible promo. Awesome energy.

Though I’d stumbled into one of the backyard threads for a sec there.

Chris Jericho insulted a fan on Twitter because they said they think he missed a trick by not calling his group the Inner Circle 2.0. Jericho described himself as a genius. Some are going to say Jericho’s in character, but I think it’s more than evident how sensitive Jericho is and how bad his Twitter game is.

They obviously wouldn’t swear if they were signed to a major national company.

Dax of FTR has said on Twitter that he would go back to the WWE if the money and circumstances were right and he’s not happy with how his AEW run has gone thus far. Everyone’s just working, right?

Not quite. He said he wasn’t “satisfied” with the AEW run, which if you’re aiming to be a “Top Guy”, that’s not rare. There’s little to that “going back to WWE” thing either, because the chances of the circumstances being right for a tag team are going to be slim at best.

Or they really believed the push Triple H gave them was real, that they are THAT much better than any other tag team.

Yes, they are very solid in the ring, but if they actually thought they were going to get booked better than the Bucks by the Bucks booking, they are truly delusion.

So when is the Scott Hall tribute show on AEW

i would say wed and impact will have theres on thur, who does cody hall wrestle for is he still with new japan?

ummmmm I don't think he is wrestling atm. Last I heard he was going to MLW in 2020 but then they quietly cut ties with him pretty quickly and I don't think he went back to DDT or NOAH in Japan.

He wouldn't be a terrible guy for AEW to sign actually. Former bullet club member so he def knows people there and he's a hoss that they don't have at 6'10". Think he's like 30ish so they could get a few years out of him if they wanted to. Might be a good fit.

AEW or Impact really

I've never heard a good word said about Cody Hall lol. There's a reason why nobody wants him.

This Janela tweet says it all


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dude you’re 28, 6’9 and the son of Scott Hall and you’re not signed anywhere nor get any notable independent dates.... <br>Get your fucking act together Chico...</p>&mdash; “The Bad Boy” Joey Janela (@JANELABABY) <a href="https://twitter.com/JANELABABY/status/1143688432499200001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

so he is another dave flair

Naw man, David Flair never looked like a wrestler. If anything he was another Erik Watts where he looks like it should work, but just doesnt.

Cody Hall was a giant stupid asshole. That's why he's not wrestling anywhere.

lol I didn't realize what a shithead he is. And apparently he's a dangerously stiff worker too.

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lmao he is so into the gimmick and I love it. Danhausen should have all the titles as soon as he's cleared. ALL of them. And he really needs to get a blimp entrance one day.

The only things I've ever heard about Cody Hall are not good. Sloppy and stiff in the ring, doesn't care to improve, trying to coast on being Scott's son, etc. I'm not shocked he's gotten nowhere.

I had actually heard that Cody Hall was pretty good and had a lot of potential but that was from like DDP and other friends of Scott's if I recall. I know he had a gig in Japan, was it All Japan or Noah? Maybe somewhere else I don't know.

The stuff you guys are saying is actually the first bad rep I've heard about him, so I'm having trouble believing you guys. Most of the guys here are known as liars and socks! I am the real deal, Cody Hall is also the real deal.

It won't belong til AEW makes Cody Hall "ALL ELITE" and honor his father with a "THE BADDEST GUY IN AEW TOURNAMENT" where the winner gets awarded a trophy in the shape of a razor, painted in black and red!

4 life mother fuckers!

Cody Hall was in NJPW in Bullet Club. He was an oaf.

Jordan is about to go ALL IN with this and make Cody Hall his avatar.

The bad things I’ve heard about Cody Hall have all been personality related.

It won't belong!

Joey Janela confirms that he will not be re-signing with AEW when his contract is up in May.

Joey's been a victim of AEW's success in a lot of ways - he was a big name indie guy when, outside of the top tier, that was what AEW had to offer. The number of big names and ex-WWE stars that they've been able to sign since means that he doesn't stand out as much, and while he could have a decent role as an undercard mook, it's not really playing to his strengths.

He has a really unique skillset in terms of putting together wild, modern hardcore indie matches with unlikely opponents - the matches he's had with the likes of Marty Jannetty and Ricky Morton have been brilliant. It would have been great to see him given a kind of "disrespectful youth" run in AEW to have those matches against legends, but he's likely better served continuing to do it on the indies.

Maybe he can…Control His Narrative.

Yeah I would of liked that for him, would of gave him something interesting to do. Bring in some legends that can still go. He will be fine doing his own thing though.

Remember when AEW people used to brag about how they weren't just going to hire a bunch of WWE guys and they would be real selective?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

They’ve hired (by my count) about 17 people from the over 100 personnel that were released in 2021-22.

i'm doing this for the poor rofl smiley, which has finally had enough of you



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Dave Meltzer’s going to bat for AEW again. In order to spread propaganda that this thing is growing, Dave has used a bunch of weird metrics.

* A 17% increase in PPV. Yeah, from horseshit to dogshit. Adding Danielson and Punk has gotten you 10k more buys globally or whatever. Their domestic numbers still pale in comparison to ECW’s domestic number running 6 PPVs a year with 24 WWF and WCW PPVs also flooding the market.

* Their rating is up year-to-year. Yeah, without NXT there splitting the wrestling audience.

* They just sold out the Forum! Quickest sellout in history! It’s their first time running the place in an age where people can buy tickets on their cellphone.

* First $1 million gate! Cool? You sellout a first-run venue and charge a lot for tickets this is doable.

Fuck this guy has gone off the deep end. If you like AEW…fine. I’ll accuse you of bad taste, but that’s allowed. That’s not enough though. We’ve got to distort, or flat-out lie, about how good it’s doing. Dave’s this close to creating fictional companies that never existed and comparing their numbers (set at 0) to AEW.

Lol, apparently this was in response to fans getting their backs up against Bischoff’s comments that they aren’t very good at telling stories (true). Someone posted a collage of their favorite AEW stories:

* Cody vs. MJF. If I recall, this was badly explained on TV. The Cody/Max relationship was brought up a couple of times, then MJF just randomly turned heel on Cody and they never touched again.

* Mox vs. Eddie Kingston. Yeah, nah. They went from being friends to enemies to friends again and now they don’t even interact. Wasn’t it based on “You used to be hardcore!” Cool.

* Page vs. Omega. Fucking shit. Page was a fucking loser, this derailed him, then they forced it down throats and even had to give Page time off to come back and get a big pop. Now he’s a flailing champion.

* MJF vs. Punk. Easily their best, but there are still flaws in it. MJF’s pretend face turn was placed in a weird position, and many people didn’t buy Punk falling for such an obvious ploy. Some feel it was too much blood. There are “issues” with this.

AEW’s ability to tell stories is one of their more overrated “qualities.” A lot of the time nothing happens, things are dropped or the context of a story is just weak. Look at everything Adam Cole has done since coming. Look at Danielson’s stuff. Punk’s stuff outside the MJF program has been, what? He bumps into Eddie Kingston? He gets attacked by someone and is mad?

They rely on tropes like anyone else who gets slammed. And it’s usually a big fuss for nothing. It’s not just Eric Bischoff that thinks this. Variety did an article where people enjoyed WWE’s storytelling a lot more (by quite a margin, if I recall). Sometimes you just have to accept something and admit your preference is subjective bias. And sometimes if you want to get better at telling stories, you’ve got to actually listen to and accept criticism, instead of just saying “No, we are awesome!” and making the same mistakes over and over.

Hahahaha he is a cum dork too. Wow. Mind blown.

hey cum dork you gotta get cumdorx tattooed on your forehead like lars frederiksen's skunx tattoo

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Wwe is better at telling stories when they do it right. The problem is at any given time, there is only one great storyline going at a time. Everything else is solid at best, but usually feels plastic, souless, and devoid of any emotion.

As good as WWE's stuff is when they really try, Id rather watch a show where every feud has some real heat to it, even if its flawed. Its more fun to me to watch someone try and fail rather than watch someone not try at all.

17 is more than can be reasonably pushed at anyone time to any meaningful result

They never touched again. Lol

Am I misremembering the fact that they had a relatively long feud following the turn that ended with MJF beating Cody or is dumb fuck choosing his preferred version of reality to bitch about again?

That is a superb point.

Why does everyone need to be pushed?

they dont. infact its impossible to push someone without it at the expense of others. my point is if you bring in 17 guys in order to get your money back it has to be at the expense of the talent you had on hand prior.

or you can use the name talent to build the preexisting talent. theyve done a bit of both but more of the former than the later.

which is to say AEW has absolutely brought in a ton of wwe cast offs contrary to their alleged motives operandi

and they were right to do so. their claim they wouldnt was grandstanding. it was the pomeranian barking at the pitbull. their success has dwarfed their expectations. when they said what they said they didnt think theyd have the option to get the talent theyve gotten. it was very easy to say it.

but lets be real. it was always bullshit even before it became false in hindsight

I dont think anyone would argue that AEW's roster is bloated due to all the signings, but they kinda had to, or else theyd have to keep putting people like Luthor, Janela, and the librarian on tv.

they absolutely made the right choice. they shouldn't be faulted for it. its not like the wwe wouldnt steal a top talent whos contract is up from them given the chance (and promptly bury them.) but its fair to point to their PR statements and call bull shit too.

if they had backed the talent they had out of the gate theyd have never grown beyond 400k weekly viewers

And all it took was quintupling their budget :rofl:

17% when you get to AEW low numbers isn’t even that impressive. It’s about 17k buys worldwide.

AEW should have absolutely gone after top talent. I would have expected even more to go had the promotion not been a mess earlier (think there’s a real chance they could have gotten Orton and Styles, for example). But they shouldn’t have said they weren’t going to. You’re right calling it grandstanding.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Application for Willy Regal to slap Danhausen into his exclusive wrestling club. ~ the demon wafer (Danhausen) <a href="https://t.co/uJr0rjj2Uz">pic.twitter.com/uJr0rjj2Uz</a></p>&mdash; Danhausen (@DanhausenAD) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanhausenAD/status/1504486050000891914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I like Danhausen as a youtube personality, but I dont need to see him putting curses on people in an actual wrestling show.

Bingo.

I agree, wrestling should be serious and there just isn’t room for that sort of carry on. What next, some kind of “deadman” competing and winning titles maybe. Ridiculous. :shifty:

his ginmick was ridiculous. his character was serious

I love Danhausen. That’s my only thought on the matter at the moment.

There’s also something to be said about this. Subtlety is a wonderful thing sometimes.

Other times, straight ridiculousness reigns supreme.

i don't mind how danhausen and his cursing have been used so far. now if he's using curses to win titles... we can talk then.

There’s also something to be said about his curses not being ACTUAL curses but still being effective.

This sliding scale is used to justify everything. At least Orange Cassidy isn’t in main events. At least The Dark Order aren’t in main events. At least Brodie Lee’s kid is a one-off thing. They all invariably turn out to be false. They creep up there.

When something is stupid, it just doesn’t belong in the program period. I don’t know where this “at least it’s only in this spot” justification for nonsense comes from.

i've never said that about anyone other than danhausen. take it up with someone else.

Watched a few of his YouTube things to see what all the "hubbub" was about, and I can't even give him that one.

That’s funny because part of his gimmick is “Won’t somebody think of the children”.

he may be into curses, but he's not into cursing!

He’s very nice. Very evil.

Fuck what their books look like. I’m just trying to be entertained.

How about that time MJF randomly turned on Cody and they never touched again in Noid’s imagination? How shitty was THAT storytelling!?!? LOL FUCKING TONY KHAN.

If only Noid hadn't blocked a majority of the wrestling forum :roll:

He's more or less happy in his echo chamber like a frog who's never seen the outside of his mother's basement.

I think the line we seem to draw on seriousness in wrestling is bizzare thats all. Deadman (and all that entails) legend of the business, silly guy pretending to put a curse on someone is too far though.

Maybe Danhausen needs to shoot lighting from his hands when he curses and have a 19 min intro that includes him taking off a hat while someone swings on the dimmer switch.

This sub eating up the Fiend with a spoon is another example of the silliness we will accept from more recent times.

these are silly comparisons, really. taker and bray were meant to taken seriously and presented themselves as such even at the most ridiculous. danhausen is meant to be comedy and plays it that way and it is inherently ridiculous. i understand not everyone likes comedy in their wrestling. i think it has its place. but yeah different games being played by these guys.

yeah he's a comedy gimmick. anyone he goes over is humiliated. they lost to a joke. should he win a title? no. he shouldn win a match let alone a title.

I have no issue with him being billed as comedy, whether he should win a match or not is probably another conversation. If the fans cheer for it theres probably a will and a way he should win at least on occasion.

Personally I have a far easier time with Danhausen as an out and out comedy act in the show than I do with taking The Fiend seriously.

Here’s an idea: They both suck.

Here's a better idea: They both rule and Noid is a jabroni.

I liked the idea of the fiend. A sunshine and rainbows guy with a split personality thats a psycho killer. But they made it dumb by throwing in all the magical teleportation and possession crap.