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Bad News Gertner 03-03-2022 11:07 AM

Well, except for tonight. Tonight will not be top notch lol

drave 03-03-2022 11:22 AM

You're right.....




THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE ROOOFF!!!!! TOP NOTCH ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH DAMNIT!!!!

#1-norm-fan 03-03-2022 12:58 PM

Next week’s card puts everything in current wrestling to shame. Tonight’s train wreck is the perfect prelude.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-03-2022 01:01 PM

From the outhouse to the penthouse.

ron the dial 03-03-2022 01:01 PM

i am unreasonably excited for tonight

drave 03-03-2022 01:03 PM

Save the pre-roll for the start of the show, so you don't fall asleep old man!

Wehttam 03-03-2022 01:12 PM

i am so bad at remembering these.

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2022 03:21 PM

I’m way more excited for Supercard of Honor than I am Revolution or any upcoming AEW show. I want to see what they put together for this. There’s no reason a Bryan Danielson and cannot be involved, or FTR and The Briscoes can’t do something.

ron the dial 03-03-2022 05:09 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">���� <a href="https://t.co/Vy4UF9FDvN">pic.twitter.com/Vy4UF9FDvN</a></p>&mdash; Wills on Wrestling (@WrestlingWills) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingWills/status/1499464703092871170?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Destor 03-03-2022 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5529056)
I think that fanbase are more apt to watch old ROH shows than Network subscribers are to watch old WWE shows though

i would def watch gabes roh run again

xrodmuc316 03-03-2022 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5529056)
I think that fanbase are more apt to watch old ROH shows than Network subscribers are to watch old WWE shows though

Sure, but that is the same fanbase they already have. It certainly isnt going to grow the fanbase, it is just a pipeline to have more debuts.

Bad News Gertner 03-03-2022 07:17 PM

Oh for sure but it's a fairly decent amount.

Vastardikai 03-03-2022 08:35 PM

I'm kind of surprised there isn't a post on the upcoming Revolution PPV. Mainly because I think my taking the piss post is going to beat it into existence.

Mr. Nerfect 03-04-2022 06:00 PM

I can see problems popping up now that the birth child has a stepchild in the house.

xrodmuc316 03-04-2022 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5528447)
Uh oh…Chavo’s gonna get it.

Nothing like disrespecting a member of the Guerrero family by firing Chavo without even the courtesy to answer his calls, yet you still let half your roster do Eddie's moves for chants.

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...he-aew-roster/

Quote:

“Coming back in early February, started giving Tony some texts, no answer, no reply. Called him, left him a voice message, no reply whatsoever. I am like, ‘hmm, okay.’ Then all of a sudden I see I am not part of the page anymore, of the AEW roster. So, it kind of pisses me off, to be honest.

“Hey, I am a big boy, if there’s not plans for me, totally fine, I get it. But answer your phone. I deal with billionaires all the time, he’s not the first one, so it kind of pisses me off a little bit. After working with Vince McMahon, you can deal with anybody. So I am like, ‘answer your phone.’ This is not cool. So that’s where we are at.”
Tony Khan is a spoiled brat

Jordan 03-04-2022 06:18 PM

I know! I mean Chavo is an intrigral aspect to AEW and Tony should be answering those phone calls and mobile text messages because Chavo needed to talk! But Tony wasn't there for him to talk to! Tony didn't want to do it! Chavo was looking for a conversation abut the future with AEW and to say "hey Boss I'm ready to go to work tell me when and where?" but Tony wouldn't even pick up this phone to tell Chavo that he doesn't really give a shit about him and Chavo wasn't able to figure out that he brought nothing to the table in any appearance on AEW he ever did and he's sucks. But Chavo texted Tony and Tony didn't write him back!

Mr. Nerfect 03-04-2022 06:21 PM

Tony Khan was paying Vickie and Chavo so he could try and get Eddie for Kenny’s game. When he didn’t get what he wanted, he turned into an asshole.

rez 03-04-2022 07:20 PM

Does Billy Corgan own any of the back catalog of NWA footage? Obviously none of it that was with WCW.

I'm asking for a friend

rez 03-04-2022 07:20 PM

Yes, his name is Tony

Jordan 03-04-2022 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rez (Post 5529401)
Does Billy Corgan own any of the back catalog of NWA footage? Obviously none of it that was with WCW.

I'm asking for a friend

I think he owns Houston's library, perhaps St. Louis but not certain on that last one.

Jordan 03-04-2022 07:27 PM

Dives, Dadbods and Debuts live on Dynamite!

rez 03-04-2022 07:28 PM

I'm done with AEW if Hikaru Shida does not make a showing at the PPV!

rez 03-04-2022 07:29 PM

<3 me some Conti and Rosa but they cannot replace Shida in my heart.

rez 03-04-2022 07:42 PM

Tony can take a ride on his father's awesome mustache

rez 03-04-2022 08:03 PM

Recent Jericho physical changes

https://www.cagesideseats.com/aew/20...ony-khan-quote

Destor 03-04-2022 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5529379)
I know! I mean Chavo is an intrigral aspect to AEW and Tony should be answering those phone calls and mobile text messages because Chavo needed to talk! But Tony wasn't there for him to talk to! Tony didn't want to do it! Chavo was looking for a conversation abut the future with AEW and to say "hey Boss I'm ready to go to work tell me when and where?" but Tony wouldn't even pick up this phone to tell Chavo that he doesn't really give a shit about him and Chavo wasn't able to figure out that he brought nothing to the table in any appearance on AEW he ever did and he's sucks. But Chavo texted Tony and Tony didn't write him back!

fire a guy to his face. if he's off the road call him. dont ghost him like a 1 night stand. its cowardly.

#1-norm-fan 03-04-2022 09:55 PM

AEW Double or Nothing becomes AEW’s first million dollar live gate within the first day of tickets being on sale. Cool!

(5… 4… 3… 2… 1…)

Swiss Ultimate 03-04-2022 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slikhausen (Post 5510622)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Im not cool with any of this shit to be honest.</p>&mdash; Lio Rush (@IamLioRush) <a href="https://twitter.com/IamLioRush/status/1477076565246705665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If nobody says something, then I will. Because this is fucked up and now I’m pissed.</p>&mdash; Lio Rush (@IamLioRush) <a href="https://twitter.com/IamLioRush/status/1477081194084794369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">APOLOGIZE. <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TonyKhan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a></p>&mdash; Lio Rush (@IamLioRush) <a href="https://twitter.com/IamLioRush/status/1477086524193705987?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the narrative being shifted toward swole’s wrestling ability is a microaggression. she could legit be the worst wrestler on the planet and her point would still stand. and what does her wrestling have to even do with it? she spoke up for everyone</p>&mdash; �� (@raallins) <a href="https://twitter.com/raallins/status/1477078839901794305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow, this tweet is just as professional as the time he very drunkenly mansplained wrestling to me at a TCA party. <a href="https://t.co/G0l76cHXIz">pic.twitter.com/G0l76cHXIz</a></p>&mdash; LaToya Ferguson (@lafergs) <a href="https://twitter.com/lafergs/status/1477076704522764289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A little defensive huh? <a href="https://t.co/YdFUyfit2I">pic.twitter.com/YdFUyfit2I</a></p>&mdash; PRIME Alexander (@CedricAlexander) <a href="https://twitter.com/CedricAlexander/status/1477081155551875073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Are all wrestlers little woke bitches?

Destor 03-04-2022 11:15 PM

just the ones under 180lbs

Swiss Ultimate 03-04-2022 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5529565)
just the ones under 180lbs

So 99%?

Destor 03-04-2022 11:25 PM

these days yeah lol

#1-norm-fan 03-04-2022 11:31 PM

APOLOGIZE.

Fignuts 03-05-2022 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss Ultimate (Post 5529563)
Are all wrestlers little woke bitches?

I think the bigger issue was the owner of the company publicly saying "we fired her because she sucks". Unprofessional and unessecary, and makes him look like a clown out of his depth.

Vince never did anything of the sort, despite the fact that he had plenty of people over the years who were the drizzling shits.

Fignuts 03-05-2022 11:52 AM

On top of that, according to Swole, when she wasn't being used, she genuinely asked Tony if it was because her work wasn't good enough. He told her that her work was great and they just didn't have anything for her creatively.

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2022 12:25 PM

Well, woke bitches lie about everything. If she doesn't have evidence I will assume she's a narcissistic liar.

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss Ultimate (Post 5529647)
Well, woke bitches lie about everything. If she doesn't have evidence I will assume she's a narcissistic liar.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH-pZ3CWYAIEu-_?format=jpg

She isnt lying, Tony is a racist POS, no matter how many brown people he brags about employing.

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 01:29 PM

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showpost....&postcount=280

GD 03-05-2022 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5529655)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH-pZ3CWYAIEu-_?format=jpg

She isnt lying, Tony is a racist POS, no matter how many brown people he brags about employing.

xrod is our most reliable source for all news Tony :rofl:

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GD (Post 5529658)
xrod is our most reliable source for all news Tony :rofl:

That was a report from wrestlinginc.com that recapped what that idiot said, in which he completely contradicted himself 9 months later with his bullshit tweet.

Edit*https://www.wrestling-news.net/tony-...lately/163220/

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2022 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5529655)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH-pZ3CWYAIEu-_?format=jpg

She isnt lying, Tony is a racist POS, no matter how many brown people he brags about employing.

Hardly anyone is racist, actually. You're just really dumb.

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2022 01:36 PM

It's 2022.

Jordan 03-05-2022 02:14 PM

The thing is that.. Swole SUCKS. Tony maybe just liked her weed and felt bad that he never paid match her for that smoke sesh, so he said she was "really good" in that interview. But he was totally lying, he was just being "nice", because he wasn't about to say "Well the thing with Swole is, while she sucks right now she does bring really good bud and I think that there is potential that she may turn into a decent performer but right now she's the shits".

Fignuts 03-05-2022 02:35 PM

Guys, he's not her guidance counciler, he's her fucking boss. Feelings should be considered, but not prioritized.

Fignuts 03-05-2022 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss Ultimate (Post 5529647)
Well, woke bitches lie about everything. If she doesn't have evidence I will assume she's a narcissistic liar.

Okay, fine, but her being woke doesn't excuse how Tony handled all this.

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2022 02:57 PM

It's professional wrestling, man.
It's probably a work.

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2022 02:57 PM

Or possibly*?

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss Ultimate (Post 5529660)
Hardly anyone is racist, actually. You're just really dumb.

TOTALLY just me being dumb, not like I backed it up with links or facts.

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showpost....&postcount=280


GD 03-05-2022 03:16 PM

:rofl:

Fignuts 03-05-2022 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss Ultimate (Post 5529686)
It's professional wrestling, man.
It's probably a work.

Well yeah, didn't you know? Big Swole is actually super conservative.

#1-norm-fan 03-05-2022 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5529657)
2. Tony Khan made Lio issue a statement, praising Khan

That is not some manufactured wokeness, that all happened publicly in the aftermath of him having his meltdown iver Swoke.

Woah! Did Tony forcing Lio to praise him appear on the YouTubes or something? Where can I see this? Sounds crazy!

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5529701)
Woah! Did Tony forcing Lio to praise him appear on the YouTubes or something? Where can I see this? Sounds crazy!

I got ya fan, wouldnt want you to have to check page 2 of this exact thread or anything.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">POSITIVE CHANGE FOR 2022. ��<a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TonyKhan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> <a href="https://t.co/6k6AmMhTtI">pic.twitter.com/6k6AmMhTtI</a></p>&mdash; Lio Rush (@IamLioRush) <a href="https://twitter.com/IamLioRush/status/1477383798320816129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredk...h=6ff65a1b7050

Destor 03-05-2022 04:22 PM

if my employee demanded a public apology id fire them on the spot

Fignuts 03-05-2022 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5529705)
I got ya fan, wouldnt want you to have to check page 2 of this exact thread or anything.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">POSITIVE CHANGE FOR 2022. ��<a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TonyKhan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> <a href="https://t.co/6k6AmMhTtI">pic.twitter.com/6k6AmMhTtI</a></p>&mdash; Lio Rush (@IamLioRush) <a href="https://twitter.com/IamLioRush/status/1477383798320816129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredk...h=6ff65a1b7050

Okay, now where's the part where he was made to say this?

#1-norm-fan 03-05-2022 04:29 PM

Yeah. The thing I actually asked to see. It happened publicly so it should be available somewhere.

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5529709)
Okay, now where's the part where he was made to say this?

He went from mad demanding an apology, to praising Tony and AEW all within the same 24 hour period, even though there was no public apology to Swole or anybody else. He was trying to keep his job, (he never appeared on AEW again and was fired 7 weeks later) along with being replaced with Jay Lethal within 2 weeks, it was clear none of what he said was voluntary.

"I look forward to working with Tony to keep making steps towards positive change...for 7 more weeks". He got another 7 weeks of pay for backtracking his justified outrage and praising Tony. The thing about Hush Money is you don't usually get the full story, but it is pretty clear what happened considering the aftermath.

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5529711)
Yeah. The thing I actually asked to see. It happened publicly so it should be available somewhere.

Sorry, I don't have a video of Tony standing behind Lio physically forcing Lio to tweet, or a photo of the cashed check Lio got before being fired, so I stand corrected, it was mostly public, bully for you! Good thing nobody ever gets arrested for having a motive for an action or anything.

#1-norm-fan 03-05-2022 04:42 PM

For a guy who rants about biased journalists treating speculation as facts to fit their narrative and whatnot, this is a bad look man.

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5529715)
For a guy who rants about biased journalists treating speculation as facts to fit their narrative and whatnot, this is a bad look man.

1. I am not a paid journalist, nor am I pretending to be so I do not need to be unbiased. His treatment of his Black employees is something that pisses me off.
2. For Lio to go from wanting an apology to praising Tony, well a logical conclusion for his 180 is something changed after he spoke with Tony (it happened because Lio's tweet said he did, even without it being recorded for BTE).
3. Even if we are to believe Tony and Lio had a great heart to heart talk and all was good, that is not supported by the fact the guy never showed up in TV again, or that he was replaced by Jay Lethal, or that he was let go.
4. I conceded you were right, the actual conversation Lio had was not public, but everything else was. You nitpicking that one specific point however does not change anything. The guy was kept off TV. The guy was "Let Go". That shit happened.

XL 03-05-2022 05:09 PM

It’s a logical conclusion you’ve arrived at but it’s not conclusive.

#1-norm-fan 03-05-2022 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5529718)
1. I am not a paid journalist, nor am I pretending to be so I do not need to be unbiased.

Absolutely. You’re free to treat speculation as fact if it fits your “Tony bad/AEW bad” bias and call it bullshit if it doesn’t without having to worry about journalistic integrity. Fair point.

#1-norm-fan 03-05-2022 05:14 PM

Also, there is a difference between being fired and not renewing your contract. But “fired” sounds worse so it makes sense that you use it in this situation.

#1-norm-fan 03-05-2022 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5529720)
It’s a logical conclusion you’ve arrived at but it’s not conclusive.

You know what else is a logical conclusion? Lio Rush had that exact conversation he said he had with Tony and both sides agreed to not renew his contract leading to him being taken off TV and just quietly leaving. But where’s the fun in that story?

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5529721)
Absolutely. You’re free to treat speculation as fact if it fits your “Tony bad/AEW bad” bias and brush it off if it doesn’t without having to worry about journalistic integrity. Fair point.

Why did Rush suddenly praise Tony?
Why did Rush never appear on AEW again?
Why did Rush get let go?

Why did Tony go out of his way to bury a talent who was "a great wrestler, a great personality, I like her" until she made one statement about racial disparity in AEW?
Why did Tony never apologize even when other people in wrestling thought what he said was not appropriate.
Why did Tony randomly just replace Rush with Lethal without any context whatsoever?

Lethal has no backstory with Dante Martin or Team Taz, nor was he involved with the story of Dante and Lio swerving Team Taz and their contract offer. Tony Aunt Viv'ed Rush (look it up).

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2022 05:24 PM

Xrod, just don't take an IQ test.

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5529725)
You know what else is a logical conclusion? Lio Rush had that exact conversation he said he had with Tony and both sides agreed to not renew his contract leading to him being taken off TV and just quietly leaving. But where’s the fun in that story?

So Lio Rush knew he was getting "Let Go", yet went on Twitter to state he was looking forward to continuing his work with Tony?!? Because Lio Rush suddenly decided to bite his tongue?

Fignuts 03-05-2022 05:26 PM

Space jam 2 happened!

Destor 03-05-2022 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5529730)
So Lio Rush knew he was getting fired, yet went on Twitter to state he was looking forward to continuing his work with Tony?!? Because Lio Rush suddenly decided to bite his tongue?

i think the point is that even if he made the post to pacify his boss (likely) we have nothing that establishes compulsion (irrelevant of however likely or unlikely.) its unsubstantiated conjecture

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5529735)
i think the point is that even if he made the post to pacify his boss (likely) we have nothing that establishes compulsion (irrelevant of however likely or unlikely.) its unsubstantiated conjecture

Which I did concede a few times already. Besides the fact that it is such a minuscule part of the overall issue.

But apparently I can't dislike Tony Khan for being racist because I already dislike him for other reasons. So he has not actually done anything racist, I am just biased apparently.

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2022 05:36 PM

Xrod having a meltdown over AEW diversity!

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 05:37 PM

Here, ill fix this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5529657)
And yes, Lio Rush is further evidence.

1. Rush got offended and demanded a public apology from Tony (which never happened)
2. Lio then spoke with Tony Khan and issued a statement, suddenly praising Khan
3. After that Statement, he never used Lio Rush again
4. He then "Let Go" Lio Rush
5. He replaced Lio Rush's in the storyline with Jay Lethal, no explanation given, because apparently all black guys are the same in Tony's mind, interchangeable tokens.

That is not some manufactured wokeness, that all happened publicly in the aftermath of him having his meltdown over Swole.


Fignuts 03-05-2022 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5529736)
Which I did concede a few times already. Besides the fact that it is such a minuscule part of the overall issue.

But apparently I can't dislike Tony Khan for being racist because I already dislike him for other reasons. So he has not actually done anything racist, I am just biased apparently.

An employer forcing an employee to praise him on social media is not a miniscule issue

Destor 03-05-2022 05:44 PM

again id fire an employee outright if they demanded i subjugate myself to them.

Destor 03-05-2022 05:44 PM

bag in hand. have a nice life

Destor 03-05-2022 05:46 PM

kahn is a giant pussy though and cant handle confrontation...so 7 weeks later lilo realizes his job is gone because kahn lacks a spine. seems consistent with how he's handled others

#1-norm-fan 03-05-2022 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5529742)
again id fire an employee outright if they demanded i subjugate myself to them.

Yeah. Tony had a conversation with him and let him finish out his contract. If anything he loves black people TOO much.

Destor 03-05-2022 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5529745)
Yeah. Tony had a conversation with him and let him finish out his contract. If anything he loves black people TOO much.

hey if he had a talk with him then thats points for kahn

Jordan 03-05-2022 05:56 PM

Tony will stamp and growl his way right to ya, the Khanman doesn't back down he will say it to your face and say it loud! Fuck all yall suck my dick. Tony Khan has saved wrestling and he loves all races and genders, binary or not! Fuck off with that Tony Khan hate! We are a group of fans who support Tony Khan and his family! Go away!

xrodmuc316 03-05-2022 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5529741)
An employer forcing an employee to praise him on social media is not a miniscule issue

That is not the issue I am referring to being minuscule. Do I believe that tweet was imfluenced/requested/forced/ghostwritten or whatever else we want to call it by Tony Khan, I 100% do. I conceded that yes, that act itself was not public, Fan was right 100% about that, it was conjecture. The fact that we do not have a public record of that happening is the minuscule part, because everything that followed happened. He was kept off TV and he was "Let Go". I fixed the wording, now no conjecture included, yet the conclusion remains unchanged.

Tony Khan went out of his way to bury a black wrestler who questioned disparity, then did no further business with a black wrestler who had a problem with the treatment of the previously discussed black wrestler.

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2022 06:08 PM

Get out of here with your creepy race fetish.

Fignuts 03-05-2022 06:37 PM

I think most people agreed the way he handled Big Swole was shitty.

As far as Lio leaving, once again, we don't know why Lio left. He doesn't strike me as someone to hold his tongue, so if Tony fucked him over, I'm pretty sure we would have heard from him about it by now. Lio being a headache to work with is a known issue. So that could have factored into the departure.

As for black talent being treated fairly, no they are not booked very well. Most people aren't, regardless of skin color. Because Tony Khan is a fan who bought himself a wrestling promotion.

Is Jay Lethal replacing Lio tokenism? Maybe? Maybe Tony went " hey another black guy! Perfect!" Or maybe Jay Lethal, as a veteran more experienced than rush, who can also talk was an even better fit for the role. And he just happens to be black. Point is we don't know. So it's not fair to accuse. Unless you're so terrified of tokenism that you believe a role played by a black man can never be portrayed by another black man.

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2022 07:14 PM

You're a fucking creep.

Mr. Nerfect 03-05-2022 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5529405)
Dives, Dadbods and Debuts live on Dynamite!

I wonder who is going to debut this week? Jeff Hardy’s no compete has to be up now, doesn’t it? He’ll probably save Matt Hardy from Andrade’s betrayal on Dynamite this week.

Mr. Nerfect 03-05-2022 09:24 PM

Oh, and Shane Strickland and maybe the rest of Hit Row at Revolution. So them, Jeff on Dynamite, then maybe Homicide, Hernandez and maybe Tony Deppen and Chris Dickinson to be Chris Jericho’s new Inner Circle in AEW the following week after Jericho refuses to put Eddie Kingston over. I’m a bit worried, because that is only 8 people.

Mr. Nerfect 03-05-2022 09:27 PM

The only question is whether Chris Jericho, Just Dickinson (Chris makes Chris change his name because it’s a no Chris’s club), LAX & Tony Deppen vs. Eddie Kingston, Santana, Ortiz, Sammy Guevara & Jake Hager Blood & Guts or Stadium Stampede?

Jordan 03-05-2022 09:55 PM

The AEW boat is so over capacity that you can start to think about an eventual sinking. We've been through WCW and know what over crowding a roster can do on multiple levels. This ROH purchase may actually be the life boat that AEW needs going forward for years down the line.

ROH has no contacts right now, maybe The Briscoes or Johnathan Gresham but that would probably be it. AEW has an entire other roster on their own roster. This is a pretty incredible deal. Hopefully they are able to get a money deal for an ROH TV show. My hope is they get onto TruTV. Tru is trying to become cooler, they don't have many big shows. ROH isn't huge at all but if the new ROH on cable could get Rampage numbers, I think that would be a comfortable start.

The thing is, will the faithful ROH audience return for the version of their beloved company? There are wrestling fans that are just ROH fans, the reach of their TV caught a lot of random people into their web. It's so exciting to see what will happen.

ron the dial 03-06-2022 01:51 AM

noid you are a f*cking maniac

weather vane 03-06-2022 04:58 AM

No shit.

weather vane 03-06-2022 04:59 AM

wait

Sepholio 03-06-2022 12:22 PM

I guess Bryan Danielson said Vince asked him why he was going to AEW and he said because he was leaving WWE because he wanted to bleed and Vince told him he wouldn't let him do that....I'm sorry but that sounds like brain damage talking to me. That sounds like someone needs to retire.

I have to leave Vince because you won't let me slice my forehead open every night with a razor blade.

Mr. Nerfect 03-06-2022 12:27 PM

AEW sucks. Sometimes the truth just needs to be confronted.

No upstart promotion has ever had more. It can’t even beat 3 hours of deliberately sterile sports entertainment even with the handicap of having an easier night on television. And its fans are in a frenzy about it being revolutionary. Lol, no. It’s bad comedy that pays way more than it makes and is a large part of why we can’t have nice things.

Mr. Nerfect 03-06-2022 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5530093)
I guess Bryan Danielson said Vince asked him why he was going to AEW and he said because he was leaving WWE because he wanted to bleed and Vince told him he wouldn't let him do that....I'm sorry but that sounds like brain damage talking to me. That sounds like someone needs to retire.

I have to leave Vince because you won't let me slice my forehead open every night with a razor blade.

Lol, is that true? If it is, holy shit. Wrestlers are fucking nuts.

There’s a point to blading, but the gusto that a lot of wrestlers want to go to that place, and the context they put it into, is just fucking nuts.

I think everyone knows Moxley and Danielson are going to exchange bodily fluids at Revolution. They’re going to give themselves wounds and pour another man’s blood into them. Secretly, I had hoped they would have a wrestling match instead of desperately crying for attention and approval they don’t already have.

There is a time to bleed. There is a context behind red turning to green. Daniel Bryan vs. Dean Ambrose in the second match from the top built around the story of them becoming friends isn’t it.

Mr. Nerfect 03-06-2022 12:36 PM

Fuck this company. And fuck people who drink its Kool-Aid too, for that matter. Fucking sick of the apologetics. It’s a sideshow for mutants. Put it in the trash.

xrodmuc316 03-06-2022 12:49 PM

Quote:

“I appreciate everything that they do, everything including birthday cakes for guys on their birthdays too." Jake Roberts
Tony Khan is a good boss because he buys wrestlers birthday cakes :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Mr. Nerfect 03-06-2022 12:59 PM

Jake Roberts is a scumbag and is getting paid six figures to add nothing to a product and say nice things about the rich fuck paying him. He still owes people money.

Fignuts 03-06-2022 01:20 PM

Yeah, im pretty sure the act itself of blading isnt what attracted Danielson to AEW. Rather, he was likely bored with the WWE style and wanted to engage in some of the more brutal and violent styles of matches he would sometimes have in roh, which blood often enhanced. The line "I just wanted to bleed" was just a showman making the interview more entertaining.

Evil Vito 03-06-2022 01:33 PM

Yeah I thought that was fairly obvious listening to the interview. But naturally most of the internet will read a sentence and take it out of context.

#1-norm-fan 03-06-2022 01:36 PM

Yeah, not enough ridiculous forced drama in that explanation, Figgy. Doesn’t work for me.

xrodmuc316 03-06-2022 03:11 PM

Didn't Bryan say his first night that he thought Vince was too protective of him, and that it isn't necessarily a bad thing, but he wanted more? While I think that was more about his concussion and neck issues, it certainly could be applied to blading as well. Vince hasn't liked blading for a decade+, so that is not a situation solely for Bryan's health, but it wouldn't surprise me if that conversation happened (even though it wasn't filmed for youtube or anything ;) ).

XL 03-06-2022 03:47 PM

I think Vince was adverse to blading long before that. Didn’t Flair and Savage get fined for bleeding at Mania 8? And Bret/Austin went against policy at Mania 13.

Destor 03-06-2022 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5530093)
I guess Bryan Danielson said Vince asked him why he was going to AEW and he said because he was leaving WWE because he wanted to bleed and Vince told him he wouldn't let him do that....I'm sorry but that sounds like brain damage talking to me. That sounds like someone needs to retire.

I have to leave Vince because you won't let me slice my forehead open every night with a razor blade.

i highly doubt this.


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