Benoit is totally coming out on ECW tonight and we'll be like wtf.

On the topic of WWE merchandise, just an example for those who haven't searched through WWEShop.com. Judge for yourself. This is from the Wrestlemania XX DVD.

Madison Square Garden, New York City. WrestleMania returns to where it all began 20 years ago. The entire event is here. Seven championships are on the line, featuring Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle for the WWE Championship & Triple H defends his World Heavyweight Championship against Shawn Michaels. Plus, the reunited Rock 'n' Sock Connection...

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I'm a spiteful vet, I'll pick on the poor noob.

Ahh, so he's being removed from the DVD sections. I though people were saying he was being taken out of results pages.

Yeah, that makes sense. Get his name off of anything you sell. I agree with that.

Speaking of being low-lifes and trying to make a profit off of a tragedy.

Two wonderful morons from the world of eBay are auctioning off multiple Chris Benoit figures (ones that were just recently released) for a Buy It Now of only $49.99!

:roll:

That picture of Benoit was used on Raw and WWE.com last night as well, he was never smiling.

Also I can't have ANY respect for Benoit now, he totally took his amazing legacy and threw it away, he deserves no memorial no tribute and no acknowledgment of his achievements.

I know I said this already, but Edge's one comment makes me feel really dismal at this point in time.

"I just don't understand things like this...and I don't think I ever will."

Or something along those lines.

Tragic circumstances or no, he needs to learn sooner than later not to fuck with Kliq.

Can we PLEASE wait until we have official source confirmation before we send the guy to burn in hell?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8bbTFGZ9UE&NR=1

There is several other ones which are up as well, from last nights Raw

Don't mess with a foul-mooded MB

No it is confirmed, im not a bitch, I won't waste my time.

He has been taken off the results pages in the shop, if you search for Chris Benoit it comes up with "Search Results for discontinued"

Remind me to have my lawyer object to you if you're even on my jury selection panel.

Wait, aren't you black? I mean no offence, but unless you got OJ's deffence team, you are guilty.

Fuck The Kliq.

not smart

I AM OJ, BITCH!

Ok, I'm actually JO, but that's besides the point.

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I hadn't watched Cena's because of my super smarkishness, but the first minute and a half are pretty telling.

By a couple of articles, you mean one posting from a celebrity gossip site that sounds like an urban legend, right?

Face facts. It really, really looks like he did it. I know no one wants to think of Benoit of a murderer, but that looks like that's what happened.

I gotta believe it was some sort of psychotic break. The stress of a marriage, combined with the stress of a very tough business, combined with probable steroid use. That would do it.

I don't know what to think. We still aren't completely sure what happened. But if it does turn out that he killed them, I want to know what happened before I totally condemn him.

Just saw on Fox News that they think Benoit murdered his wife and son then hanged himself.
This is fucked up.

Mental, Honestly gobsmacked. Benoit must have had some real problems

He's a murderer, a child killer and apparently a coward. You can't snap over the weekend, he made conscience decisions especially in his child's regard.

Fucked up way to leave your legacy.

I'm done with the subject.

Wow...

http://www.cnn.com/

With headlines that again, conflict with that. Then again, it IS Fox news. However, more sensationalist bullshit from CNN.

That being said, they're saying that triple homicide has 'not' been ruled out.

yea i just read that they believe that he strangled his wife....then suffacated his son in his own bed....then hung himself in his weight room....

Also its been noted now on several websites that WWE has pulled all Benoit merchandise from the shop zone....Now if you look it up it says that the search results were for "discontinued"....and he has been pulled from the Wrestlemania DVD info....Now it says that Triple H defends his title against Shawn Michaels....

Wow....WWE is changing alot of stuff around.

Mmhmm, and you're a psychiatry professional, are you?

All I really want is to know what happened before I make my final opinion of Chris Benoit.

As of right now anyone can come up with any possible scenarios that involve Benoit being the last one to die.

It still doesn't change the fact that Benoit DID kill one if not BOTH of them.

It's just a matter of when, how, and why.

And they'll keep saying it until there is an official statement made. It's a symptom of 24/7 news, they have to get you to keep watching/listening/reading.

The autopsy report should be released tommorrow.

Smart move by WWE by taking his name off merchandise, last thing they want is to be accused of making money out of this.

Holy mother of sick fucks! Supposedly he strangled his wife on Saturday, watched the Vengeance PPV WITH HIS SON on Sunday...THEN later suffocated his son in his bed that night! WHAT THE HELL!?!?!

I'm just numb by all of this and want to vomit. I can't believe this happened. I don't even know the words to say. His poor poor family and my God, that little boy. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Still in a state of shock and awe over this...DaveWadding actually told me the news over MSN.

this is heinous...and as much as I dont want to believe it, I cant help that feeling in my gut that this was Benoit's doing.

F*ck.

I could see his wife killing their son, then herself. He comes home to them dead, kills himself.

Or, the wife killed him and his son.

But I think that is really stretching it. And if he was hung, suffocated, anything that required physical force, are you telling me she overpowered him and smothered him? Or beat him and then hung him?

If that turns out to be the case, it'll confirm in my mind that he couldn't have been in his right mind.

Dear god, yeh that is freakin' disturbing.

Where the fuck did you get that from?

Where you read that shit?

MAYBE, him and his wife had been having a troubled relationship (to put it mildly) and he decided to kill her. So he kills her and hides her upstairs and plans on disposing of the body and trying to get away with it. So he stays home with his son like nothing is wrong. Then, the more and more he thinks about it, he realized he can't get away with it, kills his son and then himself.

But still, I gotta say, If I was in that situation. Something like I had become totally enraged with my wife and was homicidal and then I killed her. Thought it over, and then panic set in and wanted to kill myself. Even in that state of mind I don't know how somebody could kill their 7 year old son. I think I would send him to a friends house or something and kill myself while he was gone.

I don't know. Just sickening any way you look at it.

I think the son did it all.

Classy as usual, RP. :y:

Yeah, this sounds like a SEVERE psychotic break. Just mindblowing given the type of person that Benoit was credited as being up until this weekend. My God. I wonder if he left any letters or diary of some sort that can possibly give a glimpse into his state of mind.

What a horrible tragedy. Just disgusting. I can't possibly imagine what was going through his mind during all this. This obviously is not a sane man's actions. :nono:

After watching Cena's again it sounds like he knew something too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqkjzoLhtio

I don't know how to put them in a post

I'm waiting for the conspiracy theories to crop up. The "Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain" flavored stuff.

Truth be told, usually when a guy kills his family, it is with a weapon. When a woman kills her family it is posion or suffication. I'm not saying that it can't go either way. But it seems odd that Benoit would have do it that way when it is usually the other way around.

You know what, in retrospect, (maybe its my mind creating it) but EVERYBODYs interviews seem like they all kinda knew at least a little more than "Chris Benoit and his family are dead".

I could see though, If at first he thought he was going to get away with it that he might try and do it differently simply for that reason.

TMZ, CNN, Fox, etc.

If you're going to make jokes about this, you could at least actually be funny.

Yes they did. They were sadden and very shooken up. But not openly weeping, which is strange. Steph wasn't even crying. It was almost as if she was trying not to believe something she knew.

Piecing together different articles I've been reading. All speculation at this point, but apparently he was text messaging people that he was watching the PPV with his son. The sheriff's & investigators at this point are saying his wife was strangled Saturday and his son was smothered Sunday night. Then of course his hanging.

The official autopsy report hasn't been released yet, so I really hope this isn't the case because it's beyond disturbing at this point.

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Not sure if anyone's already posted this, but there's going to be a Press Conference today to reveal the preliminary autopsy results.

And yes, even Dave Scherer of PWInsider.com is saying authorities believe that Chris Benoit strangled his wife Nancy on Saturday, then either strangled or smothered his son in his bed on Sunday, and hung himself on Monday in his weight room. This is sick.

According to an article on TMZ.com, one source told them that Benoit was text messaging friends during the airing of WWE’s Vengeance PPV this past Sunday and was possibly watching the show with his son Daniel, indicating that he may have been alive at the time.

This is what I'm afraid is going to come out, and disturb all of us. What if he used a wrestling hold to kill one or both of them?

Okay, if the report is true that he killed his wife first, then stayed at home with his son and killed him later then I think he initially only intended to kill his wife.

I think his wife was a premeditated murder and he intended on getting away with it. After it set in what he had done, I think he panicked, and then decided to kill himself and for some reason also decided it was necessary to kill his son.

Jokes? I thought we were all making wild assumptions with no real clue was to what happend.

I must has misunderstood. My bad.

Edge was

If he choked them with a wrestling hold I seriously think the United States government will ban professional wrestling, possible MMA fighting, and strictly regulate boxing.

Yes, good observation.

Edge did seem by the far the most shaken. BUT, I dont know if that means he had no idea what happened. Maybe he's the one that got "curious" text messages from Chris? He might have been very close to situation and maybe thats why he was so shaken.

I thought Chavo got the texts.

There seem to be two different types of interviews yesterday...

1) People who ignored his personal life, and focused entirely on his professional work

2) People that focused almost ENTIRELY on his personal life, and tried to hammer in the fact that he was such a loving caring person. Almost like a hope against all hope that what they suspected wasn't true.

The thing I don't get is say he 'snapped', he was fully functional in society and working with the WWE up til this weekend. Nobody noticed a change in him or in his behavior? Same old Benoit goes to work, wrestles a match with Burke during the week...then kills himself and his entire family that weekend?

It doesn't make any sense. These things never do, but my God....

Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard told The Associated Press that authorities are currently investigating what role, if any, that steroids may have played in the incident.

wtf is Earl Hebner doing sucking up spotlight in that ring when all thats going down. He should have left well before Eddie got in.

Hey, so far all fingers are pointing towards Benoit. We all need to stop kidding ourselves here. You all not assuming things are being as guilty as I was last night. I kept lying to myself, saying that Benoit dying was all a work and some of you were as well, but we all knew Benoit was dead....just like we all know that Benoit most likely killed his family and himself.

I'm just feeling sicker and sicker as the day goes on, and the hangover is pretty much gone right now.

Yeh, my first thought to. But I just had the idea that maybe thats why Edge was shaken last night. Maybe not the texts, but maybe he knew more than most and was closer to the situation. Maybe Benoit had been a little extra-weird around him or something, and he was suspicious, but never took action on it cause he never thought something would happen. But he did have the line of the night, by far, when he said something like "I don't understand this kind of thing, I don't think I ever will".

Chavo states he would trust Chris with his Life and his Kids lives. Think that says it all

Now the shit will hit the fan.

I hope he killed his son just so he wouldn't have to grow up with his parents and with this hovering over his head forever. I can only hope.

When is the press conference?

Most likely isnt good enough for me to start pointing fingers. I'm patient enough to be able to sit back and wait for more information. You're a dumb prick.

They were in his home, and WWE has a voluntary wellness policy. PR shit, maybe, but not much more.

Watching Edge's spot from last night was so hard. The look in his eyes was just the most upsetting thing I think I've ever seen.

3PM EST, mayber sooner... I read that somewhere, but I forgot which site because I'm checking different ones.

:y:

Thats the thing, "snapped" doesn't just happen without ANY warning. It might be minor things but there is ALWAYS some kind of mental and/or physical warnings before someone "snaps". Now, he was quiet and reserved, but maybe he got completely withdrawn before this went down. Maybe he had a temper, but maybe he got extremely volatile before this went down. I don't know. But snapping without any sort of warning doesn't happen.

For the record, I'm not a psychologist but it was my original major in college and I switched @ about 80 units, so I was very close to completing a BA in it. Does that make me an expert? No. So don't jump down my throat about it but I think I can help understand this a little better from that aspect.

Thats what I think too

Plus, isn't it just random testing unless you were caught before?

But the thing is, people do act differently when a tragedy like this strikes close to home, especially in a tight knit family the WWE locker room usually is.

I mean who is to say, other than the people who are backstage every single day, who really knew what.

And let's not forget the whole grieving process.

This is going to change the WWE and possibly professional wrestling more than anything ever before if steroids were invovled. With all the shit with all the other sports, this will only add fuel to the fire on the issue.

Yeah, I was only barely paying attention at that point. I got up and play a video game for a bit.

Yeh thats about the only reason I can draw from it.

Yeah, I work in a Psychiatric Hospital Mercury, so I'm just trying to do the same thing as you. There's usually warning signs before 'snapping', that's what I don't understand. This is so completely out of left field and shocking. It'll be interesting to see if anyone comes out with "noticing changes in his behavior" stories.

Well if you remember, both Dean and Chavo always talked about how he usually distanced himself from everyone.

You know kind've like a "loner" somewhat. Usually when shit like this happens they usually have a loner streak in them.

I mean if even his closest friends couldn't really get inside of his head, lord knows what kind of thoughts he's had over the years.

Don't even. We're ALL playin junior detective on this case and it's looking kinda fucked up. This guy had a fan following, a job, a family and he went and killed his family. I'm not saying less successful people have rights to be killers themselves, but that is a messed up way to leave a legacy.

I wonder what Kevin Sullivan thinks about all of this.

You're the one who's talking in definites, the rest of us are flinging maybes like monkey poop.

That's the second time I've heard his name, what does he have to do with this?

The only thing I've seen in my 5 years of working in a Psych Ward that I can compare this too, as far as the out of character/left field this thing is, is drug induced psychotic behavior. We've had cases here of people trying to murder there spouses when they are cracked out on drugs....and in rare cases, someone that is being molested will one day just 'snap' and kill the molester. But usually there are warning signs that someone is being molested too.

Either way, none of these things fit Benoit's profile...so it just makes it even more unfuckingbelievable that this happened.

Thing that's chilling, like I said before, is that he could murder his wife on Saturday, call into WWE and quote "personal reasons" for not showing up to the PPV. Then, calmly watch the PPV with his son, send text messages to people...then kill his boy. Then kill himself.

Just awful. :nono:

Hey, I don't fling monkey poop. Then again, I haven't said anything about what might have happened...

Press Conference around 3

God damn and I have to pick up my girlfriend from work at 3. :mad:

While updating their coverage of the Benoit family tragedy, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution has posted a report that Nancy Benoit filed for divorce and an order of protection from Chris Benoit in May 2003.

Nancy Benoit alleged in the divorce petition that Chris, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings. Petitioner is in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child."

This prompted the judge to issue a restraining order on Chris Benoit from entering their family home. In August 2003, his wife Nancy requested that the petition be dismissed. The couple later reconciled and celebrated Benoit’s WWE World Heavyweight Championship win at WrestleMania 20 in the ring together.