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btw, why did the face burn the heel?
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Besides the obvious "because he's evil"
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I havn't played any Sim games in about a year...but when I left off in my EWR I had ECW (I had to edit it in there ;)) up to the Golbal level....had well over $100,000,000...and Raven was over 100. (Note: I did not use a single "big name guy" like Rock, Austin, Goldberg, Hogan, Savage, Hunter, Angle or anything...I just built the entire company around Jerry Lynn/RVD's 2 year fued and Taz and Raven continually battle for the World Title)
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PS SPOILERS! Trading HBK to Smackdown, along with Steiner full time. |
Serious backstage politics in the WWE
William Regal was named as head booker, and has booked himself to win the IC title AND the World Heavyweight title. |
I smell a 'Kevin Nash' :o
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He just got injured BWHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jericho won the IC belt |
LOL
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He just jobbed it to Christian :(
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I'm desperate to sign JBL so I can do a Hitler gimmick
Maybe add a few other hosses, or even better, guys like Shannon Moore (weak cruisers) to form the Nazi party. |
Everyone knows the gimmick has money written all over it
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FU</>CK OFF
I didn't realise if you don't run a show for 3 months, you get closed down BOLLOCKS |
You haven't ran a show in three months?
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lol :'(
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Instead I have to have The People's Wrestling Federation holding a card on Boxing Day. |
CHRISTIAN JUST WON THE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE :love:
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Benoit just won it back
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I took over WCW in June 2004 with a 'small' rating and 25% public image and now I'm in May 2005, WCW is cult with a 45% rating... ;) Miracles within a year!
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
TPWF STEAL RIC FLAIR FROM THE WWE |
nice steal
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went for Angle, even offered a 100,000 a month contract and a 500,000 signing on fee
BUT HE REJECTED :mad: |
boo
Is this the game that Mackem was going to do? |
How does one go about going from cult status to National? Is it an issue of your ratings, or the number of wrestlers you have?
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^ Public image. When your public image hits 100%, you automatically rise one level.
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WOOOOOO I got WCW from small and 25% rating (Last out of 19 promotions) to golbal and 58% rating (2nd out of 13) within 2006! :D
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*bump*
Triple post. :D My WCW is global at 46% public image now. WCW is in war with both NWATNA (14% public image) and WWE (96% public image :( ). I just signed Rob Van Dam, Chris Benoit, Charlie Haas and Edge from WWE. Nearly got AJ Styles from NWATNA and Eddie G from WWE but they said it wouldn't be a good career move :nono:. |
Not happy.
Total Extreme Warfare is now.....Total Extreme WRESTLING |
I suppose it makes sence though :-\
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If you thought he sold out before, he has truly given in to the establishment :nono: :'(
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I have never thought that :|
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Neither have I.
But dropping the Warfare :( |
It was one of those general things, where everyone was like "YOU BASTARD, WE WONT PAY FOR YOUR SH</>ITTY LITTLE GAME"
and then did. |
lol yeah, all over the boards, including me, were like 'fuck that, i'm not paying for a text based game'
Now look at us :'( If anyone has sold out, its us, the public :'( |
I was always open minded :shifty:
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:shifty: yes...
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Speaking of TE WRESTLING, I haven't played it in ages, especially when my WCW game went up sh</>it creek.
May open up the old TNA game after General Studies tomorrow. I had something hot going on. I needed more Lesbian angles. I'm tempted to come up with "TNA PORN TV" Kinda similar to that Bang Babes on the wrestling channel. That is hilariously bad. |
Yeah, I haven't played it for about a week now, although I have had exams etc :-\
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Haven't got a "proper" exam until next Friday now.
Seeing as how General Studies doesn't count. |
Aside from taking up my time :mad:
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Booked a Raw show last night.
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How did it go Mackem?
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It was alright but I'm waiting for a few guys who I've offered contracts to to sign. I'm not going to debut Jose Maximo without Joel Maximo :mad:
AJ Styles, Raw or Smackdown? Can't remeber if I've debuted him yet :$ |
Did my best show the other night.
85% for Bad Blood! |
Started a game with TNA last night becaus WWE is just too much. Sorted a load of crap out. By the time I done that, I only got to do one Impact show. Gave Jarrett the belt, poor Ron Killings :'(
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What are you all talking about TEW?
Has the name changed from Total Extreme Warfare to Total Extreme Wrestling? |
I'm talking about TEW, don't know about the name change.
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TNA game is coming along OK. Hogan is going to debut next week. I'm never going to use hype videos ever again, they always get crap ratings.
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With my TNA booking career hanging by a thread (I'm losing money like someone who took JBL's stock advice), I decided to take drastic action.
I signed Steve Corino, Sean O'Haire, and Devon Storm and put them together in a stable called The Invasion. The trio immediately attacked AJ Styles, and I'm building for a Styles/Corino match at the next PPV (I'm doing monthly PPVs now with a weekly Impact). Depending on how the feud turns out, Corino may take the gold. The Invasion also picked up the Lords of the Ring as new members, leading to a renewed LOTR/AMW feud. I also signed Jimmy Yang, Jinsei Shinzaki, Joey Matthews, and Harry Smith to fill out the undercard a bit. Lo and behold, things are looking up again. Of course, Elix Skipper is still out five more months with a torn calf and Jeff Jarrett is seven months away from his broken leg healing (he broke it the DAY before his big feud ender with Styles). Once those two are back and Raven and Shane Douglas get themselves through rehab, I might be able to claw my way out of the hole I dug myself with early stupid decisions. |
Ric Flair is going to sign when his WWE contract expires WOOOO!
Getting good ratings for TNA, ditched Explosion so I've only got Impact and the weekly PPV running. I've got 3 Main event feuds running at the moment which all sort of interlink in matches *guy 1 messes in guy 2's match with guy 3 etc* Hogan (yes I signed Hogan) and Jarrett's feud is at like 95% although Hogan can't really wrestle so I'm using him in other ways. I'm glad I only signed to a 3 month contract, I might actually let him go when it expires. AJ Styles is feuding with Juventud Guerrera (heel) which is in the mid 80's or something. Dustin Rhodes (heel) and Killings are feuding in the mid 80's as well. Overall I'm doing ok. I've still got Team Canada, Japan, Mexico and UK going but I'm gnot using them much at the moment. Dynamite Kid is the leader of Team UK, Bret Hart is the leader of Team Canada (they're both managers though). Problem is none of the other workers are over much to start some kind of a program with the teams. I've got lower level storylines going as well to get people into the midcard. |
1 More exam, and I'm back baby...
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Oh yeah and I'm trying to get Tracy Brooks and Kristi Myst over by them having a feud, which is mainly pre-show segments involving the two of them.
Cactus reminded me there what with his attempts to get Lolipop over. |
It worked :cool:
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Sid did you ever find a use for Watts and Douglas because I'm not seeing much point in them. Might release them.
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I had Watts around in case of Battle Royals or if I need someone relatively over to make up the numbers to do a job.
Douglas was getting really over when I had him, but I kept jobbing him out (he had 2 hot matches against Raven and Sandman) and then he quit. I'd work with Douglas, he can be good. |
I've got 7 people in the main event :eek:
Low Ki wants there too plus a few others joining I can imagine wanting to be a mian event. Plus if I make Sting active, he'll want to be there. Might keep Bret Hart inactive as a manager because of his injuries. |
The week after my Invasion started, WWE and FLI signed Jerry Lynn, Kid Kash, Raven, Nick Dinsmore, Devon Storm, Frankie Kazarian, and CM Punk to written contracts.
Suddenly, my top draw (Raven), two key members of the Invasion (Dinsmore and Storm), three cornerstones of the X Division (Lynn, Kash, and Kazarian), and one-half of the Tag Team Champions (Punk) are all gone. How did I make up for it? I signed Rene Dupree, Sylvain Grenier, Perry Saturn, and Test for the Invasion and got Billy Kidman and Nova for the X Division. So, :p to the McMahons and Rougeaus. |
I think they'll be laughing in your direction :(
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I sign my best workers to written contracts as soon as somebody else offers them. The only people I've lost that I didn't want to, left to be Head Bookers (Daniels, Raven, Russo, Konnan, D-Lo).
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Signed a few (and offered a few more) women workers last night, going to put them into training so that someday along the line I can have a good womens division.
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My god, when they leave as bookers that is quite possibly the most fu</>cking annoying thing ever.
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It was the first week as well. I wanted to use Raven and Daniels as well :mad:
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I hate McMahon, I want to sign Raven but the bastard wont let me. WHATSUPWITHTHAT!?
I cant remember them having any problems IRL? |
I don't know but I remember having a similar problem in my WWE game.
I want to get rid of one of those Harris brothers I've got in TNA but he's like best mates with Jarrett :mad: I'll just have to wait until his contract expires or somebody offers him a written contract. |
If they'd been stolen on my game, the whole course of my history as owner of NWA:TNA would be different, that is seeing as how they have been (besides Jarrett at the start) my only NWA Heavyweight Champions.
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WWE Raw
5th July 2004 A video was shown to hype Chris Benoit. ----- Video Summary ----- Overall Rating = 63.2% The Rock gave an in-ring interview. He insulted Triple H. ----- Interview Summary ----- Overall Rating = 93.9% Eric Bischoff came to the ring and called out The Rock and Triple H. He announced that tonight they'd be fighting each other, one on one. ----- Angle Summary ----- Overall Rating = 84.0% Tag Team Match match William Regal and Eugene Dinsmore vs New La Resistance William Regal floored Conway...William Regal trapped Sylvain Grenier in a figure four for the submission. Result - William Regal and Eugene Dinsmore win ----- Match Summary ----- Match Reaction = 62.9% Match Quality = 63.6% Overall Rating = 64.6% Matt Hardy came down to the ring, and called out Jeff Hardy. Jeff ran down, and the two started brawling until officials came down and broke them up. Matt then challenged Jeff to a LADDER CAGE MATCH! ----- Angle Summary ----- Overall Rating = 68.8% Nick Jackson was interviewed by Jonathan Coachman backstage. He challenged Chris Benoit to a match. ----- Interview Summary ----- Overall Rating = 89.3% Backstage, Batista, Randy Orton, Ric Flair and Triple H, the members of Evolution!, were talking about something. When they spotted the camera, they moved off to find somewhere more private to talk. ----- Angle Summary ----- Overall Rating = 82.6% Singles Ladder Cage match Jeff Hardy vs Matt Hardy A stunned Matt staggered backward into Jeff Hardy, who hit the Twist of Fate...Jeff Hardy climbed the ladder for the win. After the match, Jeff Hardy and Matt Hardy shook hands. Result - Jeff Hardy wins ----- Match Summary ----- Match Reaction = 79.2% Match Quality = 50.2% Overall Rating = 70.1% Triple H gave an in-ring interview. He accepted the challenge that had been laid down by The Rock. ----- Interview Summary ----- Overall Rating = 85.0% (bit of a fuck up here, seeing as Bischoff already made the match :$) Chris Jericho was in the ring, conducting his talk show with Chris Benoit. The interview passed without incident. ----- Angle Summary ----- Overall Rating = 74.8% Singles Match match Batista vs Rodney Mack Batista caught Rodney Mack with the Spinebuster...That led to the three count. Result - Batista wins ----- Match Summary ----- Match Reaction = 44.8% Match Quality = 57.2% Overall Rating = 44.4% A video was shown to hype Sting. ----- Video Summary ----- Overall Rating = 25.5% (FUCKERS) Singles Match match The Rock vs Triple H Triple H ducked his head for a backdrop, but was too early, and was folded up with a The Rock sit-out powerbomb as a result...Nick Jackson ran in...Nick Jackson caught Triple H with the The Sickness...The Rock saw the attack, and moved in to capitalize...The Rock caught Triple H with the Rock Bottom...That led to the three count. Result - The Rock wins ----- Match Summary ----- Match Reaction = 84.2% Match Quality = 64.0% Overall Rating = 78.7% Backstage, Chris Benoit was walking down a corridor. ----- Angle Summary ----- Overall Rating = 83.9% Singles Cage match for the WWE World Heavyweight title Nick Jackson vs Chris Benoit This match was a regular one fall bout for the WWE World Heavyweight title. First out was Nick Jackson. Next out was the WWE World Heavyweight champion, Chris Benoit. The referee for the match was Earl Hebner. ----- Match Highlights ----- Nick Jackson suplexed Benoit...A hooked-arm clothesline from Jackson floored Chris Benoit...Benoit rocked Jackson with a big forearm...Jackson walked into a big chop from Benoit...Nick Jackson belly to belly suplexed Benoit... Three right hands from Jackson sent Benoit down...A big punch from Benoit put Nick Jackson down...A big punch from Benoit put Nick Jackson down...Nick Jackson nailed Benoit with a double underhook powerbomb...After blocking a strike, Benoit scooped up Jackson and drove him face-first into the cage...Benoit walked into a big right hand from Jackson...After ducking a clothesline, Benoit used a deep arm drag on Jackson...Chris Benoit applied a standing leglock to wear down Jackson... Benoit applied a knee bar on Nick Jackson, weakening the legs...The awesome power of Nick Jackson was on display as he hit Benoit with a military press across the ring...Nick Jackson headbutted Benoit...Chris Benoit hit a sharp arm drag on Nick Jackson...Benoit nailed Jackson with a right hand... Jackson got knocked down with a running forearm from Benoit...Jackson walked into a big right hand from Benoit...Jackson headbutted Benoit...After ducking a clothesline, Jackson used a fallaway slam to hurt Chris Benoit...Benoit used a Japanese arm drag on Jackson...Chris Benoit applied a standing leglock to wear down Jackson...Nick Jackson DDTed Benoit onto a 'Stop' sign... BAH GOWD! Chris Benoit dived off the top of the cage to elbow drop Jackson in the ring...Chris Benoit dived off the top of the cage to elbow drop Jackson in the ring... :shifty: An arm breaker from Benoit hurt Nick Jackson...Chris Benoit came off the ropes, but right into a huge Jackson dropkick...Jackson short-arm clotheslined Benoit...Benoit slammed Jackson on to a trash can...Chris Benoit touched the floor at the same time as Nick Jackson, the referee ruled it a draw. Result - Draw ----- Match Summary ----- Match Reaction = 84.0% Match Quality = 72.8% Overall Rating = 88.0% |
Last night's WWE RAW show got an overall rating of 73.1%.
The TV viewing figures for last night are now in: NWATNA recieved 248,722 viewers for NWATNA Wrestling (increase of 11,641 viewers from previous show); ROH recieved 231,398 viewers for ROH Extreme Warfare (decrease of 180,558 viewers from previous show); WWE recieved 1,082,137 viewers for WWE RAW (increase of 18,279 viewers from previous show); Nick Jackson appeared on Off The Record last night. He put Linda McMahon over heavily. Overall the appearance went down very well. :wtf: Linda? |
I put myself on a TV show appearance and I put over Danny Davis :D
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lol
Just reading through some of the commentary in this game, and its pretty shocking :-\ |
MLW signed AJ Styles to a written contract :'(
Now, in the last month, I've had one-half of the World Tag Team Champions and my World Champion signed away from me. Oh, well. Guess it's tournament time again. |
I have started a new WWE game on EWR 4.0 with no changes to the original set up aside from having an 'Undisputed Champion'. I had to find a way of having one guy at a time who can float between shows. Amazing hack called Klosure was used to emulate this.
Current Champs after 15 weeks of play are. Smackdown: WWE: Undertaker Cruiserweight: Matt Hardy US: Eddie Guerrero Tag: Rey and Kidman (Filthy Animals baby) Raw: World Title: Jericho IC: Edge Tag: WGTT Womens Title: was scrapped and all women fired European Title: Resurected and given to Rhyno after a 10 man battle royal. Undisputed Champeen: Kurt Angle |
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Sonjay Dutt and Trent Acid as a tag team, what should I call them?
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I'm going in the opposite direction - more females!
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They are currently called "Hot Acid" :'(
Just signed Jacqueline wooo! Female division coming shortly to TNA. |
Oh yeah, I signed Mick Foley as well. Matt Hardy and Edge didn't though :(
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I'm tempted to start a TNA game, but I dont want to leave my current WWE game :-\
Sod it, when I have time I can go back to it. |
A lot of my main event workers are "tired" :mad:
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<font color=goldenrod>I haven't been able to play my EWR game in quite a while now, but now I've got some free time.
For the hell of it, here's a recap of the major storylines of a show I just booked, the October 9th Smackdown: -Chris Sylvain sucked up to Kurt Angle, in exchange he got a European Title match against Simon Diamond -John Cena cheated to defeat Sean Casey. Later on in the show he was seen attacking Casey again backstage to the point where he needed paramedics, not worried at all because Ken Shamrock had the night off -Mordecai squashed both Billy Kidman and Rey Mysterio in one match, looking more dominant than ever -Sylvain cheated at every chance he got against Diamond, to the point where Ian Moore (of all people) had seen enough. He thwarted Sylvain's attempts to cheat and it enabled Diamond to get the victory and retain his title. -To end the show, Angle came out and reprimanded Moore for his actions, comparing it to running out on the field during a baseball game. As a result, Angle had Moore arrested.</font> |
I'm tempted to play this now everything is over and done with.
I'm also tempted to make a TV show dedicated to softcore pornography. |
<font color=goldenrod>I'm still a week and a half away from it, but here's my proposed card for Raw-exclusive PPV, No Mercy 2025:
<u><b>WWE Title: Goldberg vs. Jason Collins</u></b> After retaining his title at Unforgiven, there has been one man who felt the need to get under Goldberg's skin: Jason Collins. They have been at each others' throats since, and that's how this match was set up. <b><u>WWE Intercontinental Title - Ladder Match: Brian York vs. AJ Styles</u></b> These two have been feuding over the strap since the beginning of September, and it all comes down to this in a ladder match. <b><u>WWE Women's Title: Vixxen vs. Nicole Durgan</u></b> Basically another feud that's been going on since early September. <b><u>WWE World Tag Team Titles: 24/7 vs. The Uprising</u></b> 24/7 hand-picked The Uprising as their opponents for this match, and they've feuded ever since. <b><u>Eugene vs. Jason Cross</u></b> Cross is practically the only guy that Eugene hasn't lost to yet since becoming Eugene. Eugene's manager M-A-G seems to get more and more upset each week, and we'll have to see if he can stomach another loss unless Eugene can cause a miracle and win. <b><u>Sean Criss vs. Matt Hardy</u></b> Basically a make-shift feud started sometime after Unforgiven. <b><u>Oracle vs. Jodie Marie</u></b> Same as above.</font> |
My WCW show.
WCW Heavyweight champ - Kane WCW Lightweight champ - Ultimo Dragon WCW Open champ - Chris Benoit WCW Tag champs - Fast & Furious (Michael and Memphis Raines) |
I have applied for a show on the Playboy Channel.
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<font color=goldenrod>Here is No Mercy 2025:
Heat Segment: Chris Jericho announces that the Nicole Durgan/Vixxen match will now be a No Disqualification match. 84% Overall No Mercy Matches Oracle pinned Jodie Marie. ****1/2, 92% Overall 24/7 defeated The Uprising when "Dangerous Man" Chris Linares pinned Derrick King. 24/7 retained the WWE World Tag Team Titles. ****1/4, 87% Overall Sean Criss pinned Matt Hardy after blasting Hardy with a steel chair when the ref was knocked out. ****1/4, 87% Overall Nicole Durgan pinned Vixxen to win the WWE Women's Title and the feud. ****1/2, 94% Overall Jason Cross pinned Eugene. Afterwards, M-A-G could take no more of his client's losing ways, so he assaulted Eugene with a chair, turning Eugene face in the process. ****1/2, 94% Overall Brian York defeated AJ Styles in a ladder match to retain the WWE Intercontinental Title and win the feud. ****1/2, 91% Overall Goldberg gave his last words before his match. 83% Overall Goldberg pinned Jason Collins to retain the WWE Title. ****1/4, 89% Overall The whole show got an 89% Overall Rating with a 1.60 Buy Rate</font> |
Still haven't played it :(
I keep looking at it thinking...oooh, I have to book a show. Then I find something else to do. |
Ok....I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do some cards, and write up a PPV.
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These were the results for Impact (I renamed Alternative TV to Impact)
Far-East Connection drew with Shark Boy and The Amazing Red (78.2%) Interview with Christopher Daniels (92.1%) Elix Skipper drew with Douglas Dale (73.6%) Sting and Dustin Rhodes beat America's Most Wanted (80.3%) Teddy Hart and D'Lo Brown beat Jushin Thunder Lyger by DQ (84.9%) Show Rating: 79.2% Attendance: 4,757 (Michigan) The TV figures for last night are now in: TNA Impact drew 1,219,915 viewers (up by 481,560); WWE RAW drew 508,623 viewers (down by 600,446); We stole RAW's viewers :cool: |
Props to the main event of Survivor Series though
Rock and Sock Connection beat Orton and Flair (81.2%) |
TNA Blood and Brawls PPV Card
======================== NWA Heavyweight Title First Blood Match: Christopher Daniels (c) vs Raven TNA X-Division Title: CM Punk (c) vs Jerry Lynn NWA Tag Team Titles: Konnan and BG James (c) vs Ron Killings and Justin Credible NWA International Title No DQ, Special Guest Referee - Bret Hart: AJ Styles (c) vs Cactus Sid War Games: The Under Appreciated (D'Lo Brown, Dustin Rhodes, Teddy Hart and Sting) vs Hulk Hogan, Jeff Hardy, Jushin Thunder Lyger and The Sandman Number 1 Contendership X-Title: Low-Ki vs Juventud Guerrera Number 1 Contendership Tag Team Titles: America's Most Wanted vs Jeff Jarrett and Goldberg The Beginning Of The End, 3 Live Kru/Under Appreciated - Steel Cage Weapons Match: Bob Sapp vs Abyss Pure Wrestling Contest: Elix Skipper vs Brock Lesnar vs Douglas Dale Ultimate X Number 1 Contendership Match: Chad Collyer vs Jimmy Yang vs Julio Dinero vs Shark Boy vs Taka Michinoku vs The Amazing Red Colt Cabana vs Masahiro Chono |
How did you manage to get Masahiro Chono? He's on a written contract in my game :(
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He wasn't on mine.
Don't forget, I started this ages ago, with TEW Zone 3. |
Slight edit to the card, when I realised Credible was in the tag title match. Sapp will now face Abyss.
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This is the Impact before the PPV
Goldylocks interviews Bret Hart who tells Sid that he isn't the owner anymore, and he won't get away with his antics anymore, especially now that Bret is the Special Guest Referee for his NWA International Title match at the PPV - 91.6% Brock Lesnar drew with Elix Skipper, following interferance from Douglas Dale. All 3 men brawled after the match - 78.5% Colt Cabana and Masahiro Chono brawled throughout the arena - 66.4% Backstage, NWA Heavyweight Champion Christopher Daniels is seen talking to someone in the shadows - 90.6% Juventud Guerrera and Taka Michinoku defeated Low-Ki and The Amazing Red, when Guerrera pinned Low-Ki, the 4 looked at each other wondering who would be the 2 number 1 contenders come Sunday - 71.8% Jeff Jarrett and Goldberg pointed out that they were still in the market for the NWA Tag Team Titles, America's Most Wanted interrupted and told them they were also looking for gold, a brawl ensued - 76.4% Abyss came to the ring, as a steel cage was lowered. He simply said "Sapp" and Bob Sapp came out to challenge him, however, as he was coming down, Ron Killings and Justin Credible attacked him, and a 3 on 1 brawl ensued, which was only stopped when..... - 72.9% Hulk Hogan, Jeff Hardy, Jushin Thunder Lyger, The Sandman, BG James and Konnan came down to make the save, which in turn led to the rest of the Under Appreciated (D'Lo Brown, Dustin Rhodes, Teddy Hart and Sting) coming out, turning into an all out brawl. Bret Hart came out and stated that everyone was to stop, and that if anyone interfered in the next match they would be suspended, and at the PPV, the Tag Titles match, and War Games, would become Handicap matches - 77.9% Teddy Hart and D'Lo Brown drew with Jeff Hardy and Jushin Thunder Lyger when all 4 men started to attack each other with weapons, tensions are boiling before the big match - 77.2% James Mitchell interviewed Cactus Sid, who told AJ Styles and Bret Hart, that whatever they had cooked up to prevent him from winning was not going to be enough come Sunday - 92.0% Raven, Jerry Lynn, Konnan, BG James and AJ Styles defeated Christopher Daniels, CM Punk, Justin Credible, Ron Killings and Cactus Sid, when Raven pinned Christopher Daniels following a DDT. Daniels and Cactus Sid stared down Raven and AJ Styles to end the show - 80.2% Show Rating: 79.6% Attendance: 12,126 (Missouri) The TV figures for last night are now in: TNA Impact drew 1,170,630 viewers (down by 49,285); WWE RAW drew 538,250 viewers (up by 29,627); Simple booking, but fairly effective I'd say. |
You're losing viewers Sid :'(
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