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Promo.... not bad, just kinda too face-y for me. Said "I'm not gonna mention my previous employer, then proceeds to talk about them for 10 mins" talked about wrestling for the fans and how TNA is an even playing field. Like I said, by no means bad, just felt it could of been better IMO (or even better, let him talk for like 2 mins, let some random low level heel interrupt him, then attack and Sandow clears the ring and tears off the shirt) |
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I actually like the design but just not sure about the rules. A simple mid card title would do, they already proved with the King of the Mountain Championship that they won't maintain the gimmick and it will be defended in regular matches before long.
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TNA don't even have a credible main title. Why are they worried about their supplementary belts?
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The TNA World Heavyweight Title has been combined with the King of the Mountain Championship and this is a new title I guess. It looks cool as hell but the MMA gimmick I'm not sure about.
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I think Cole also has the Lineal WWE title as well? I'd have to check that thread though.
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can somebody tell me what the hell billy"i'm a old rockstar"corrigan knows about being president of a wrestling organisation? aftleast jeff jarret knew enough to run it as its owner corrigan has no idea what he's doing in my opion y'all might think diffferently but this is just 1 persons opinion
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He had a small promotion a few years ago. Anyone is better than Dixie.
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Holy shit, if Mustafa Ali got signed and waltzed out proclaiming to be the lineal WWE Champion, I would mark out. He could claim there is a conspiracy against him because of his race. Massive heat. Have him get his own belt made.
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He was talking g about the Wyatt Compund segment with New Day that was clearly a rip off of the Final Deletion.
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TNA is on Pop now but if they don't get USA they probably don't have Pop. YouTube still probably your best option.
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Ring of Honor is supposed to be announcing a new title for the promotion on Tuesday. Could be a women's title, don't really need another mid card title I don't think.
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I really don't like the TV Title in ROH. Given how people digest their media these days, the idea of a TV Title at all feels antiquated. It's also way too similar to the World Title. I'd be fine with them having World, Tag Team and Women's, provided they had the women for a division and that division was over and people wanted to see them fight over something.
I'd be fine with the Pure Title coming back too. I really associate that belt with good wrestlers getting to explore drama in their matches in different ways. I don't know if AJ Styles, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan or Nigel McGuinness would credit working within that paradigm for their eventual development, but I don't think it fucking hurt them. ROH is also associated with that ring style, but with the WWE, particularly NXT, picking it up, ROH needs something that sets itself apart. A Pure Title that allows guys to construct their matches differently could be the answer. I've always been fascinated by the idea of a belt that is defended in 2/3 Falls Matches for the longest time though. Just to test the drama of having a champion that goes on a "two-straight fall" streak, or develops a series of moves that is designed to put opponents away two straight. It would help buck the conventions of your average match, and also challenge the usual booking strategies between 2/3 Falls matches (one fall a-piece, quick first fall, etc.). |
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I could see it being the Pure Championship just for it's lineage. Guys like Styles, Lethal, Samoa Joe, and Daniel Bryan being former champions is pretty big for the title if it returns. With the CMLL and NJPW both being featured in ROH it wouldn't hurt to have another mid card title. Feel like they are pushing the Women of Honor though and it will be a Women's championship.
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Any word on them debuting on Impact any time soon? Big fan of Konley and think that he's a great heel for the X Division.
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I didn't realize that ROH had the roster depth for this. I expect a few trios from CMLL to make appearances.
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I'm going to say something a bit controversial -- I'm actually optimistic about TNA's future at the moment. Dixie Carter is gone. That woman did the best she could to choke the life out of TNA. The hiring of Kurt Angle coincided with the hiring of Vince Russo, which is a damn shame, because wrestling could be very different right now if Dixie wasn't naive enough to fall for that shit, and she trusted Dutch Mantel and Jim Cornette to run operations.
My opinion is still out on Corgan, but he could make some decent in-roads to rehiring someone who actually knows how to book and to at least give him ideas. Dutch is free. Please, please, PLEASE get him back. For those who don't know, Dutch was the guy behind the Women's Division in its early days with Kim and Kong and the guy behind Angle/Joe when it actually drew money. There is a bevy of free agents that are dissatisfied with how the WWE treated them. They are hungry to prove themselves. Cody Rhodes is apparently working on a deal to go there, and he'll be taking Brandi. That's a great start. Alberto Del Rio, Paige, Ryback, Wade Barrett -- all of them have some measure of potential left. I'd sacrifice all of them, except maybe Paige, for Cesaro if he decides to leave WWE though. Kurt Angle said he was taking a break, but he clearly was only taking a break from TNA. Bring him back, treat him like a god and build to a few matches a year for him. Try and court The Briscoes by allowing them to remain associated with ROH and New Japan. If you can get a Hardys vs. Briscoes match on PPV, you will draw money. If you have built up Bobby Lashley as a capable heel champion and crown Cesaro as a new babyface challenger with a win over Kurt Angle on this same PPV, you might be out of the gate a bit. TNA has lost a lot of its bargaining power. Cody can basically pick his dates right now. But in a way this is good -- because TNA has always tried to run before it was walking properly. TNA is not WWE -- it doesn't need to own the brands of its wrestlers and it doesn't need to keep them locked in cellars when it isn't using them. TNA can be a promotion that works for the boys and girls that contribute to it, and it can lend its top talent to other promotions, build their prestige, bring them back fresh, and operate entirely different to the WWE. They can be babyfaces. |
ROH reportedly added 4 months to Adam Coles contract that would have expired at the end of the year for being injured last year. Could be a sign he's not going to resign and coming to WWE.
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The 4 months added would put him at about April so it'd be after Mania before he could come to WWE which is probably better considering there will be a lot of NXT call ups around that time. Yeah still a lot he could do in ROH and NJPW and them teaming up to sign free agents helps their chance of keeping him a bit.
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Yeah, I imagine that he'll reassess when he sees how badly NXT needs him after Shinsuke Nakamura, Bobby Roode, Samoa Joe and possibly a few others have made themselves comfortable on the main roster.
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I think it was a good idea turning Drew heel. With Moose turning face and Rex coming in, they need more strong heels in the company (especially with Broken Matt becoming a face). I have a few mutual friends in TNA and they said Rex coming in was in part to Drew (him and Drew are really close friends)
With that said.... I'm not a fan of "emo Drew". Drew is a great heel in ICW. He's got a stable built around him, very similar to the "chosen one" gimmick in WWE. I'd rather see him as more of a cocky arrogant heel than what he's doing now... |
How was Galloway doing as a babyface? I've always liked the guy. He's grown into those big paws he has in the ring and even earned himself some praise from Bret Hart while he was still in WWE. He'll return bigger and better one day.
He does seem more naturally suited to being a heel. My big problem with it is that he sort of turned babyface quite recently didn't he? Plus, he's turning to face a newcomer. I don't believe in too many fixed rules in pro-wrestling, but generally speaking, I think it's always good to give someone who turns a victory in their program, because otherwise why did they turn? You don't start a fire by pissing on the kindling, no matter how drunk you are. How do you guys see Galloway vs. Rex going? |
Nah, Drew has been a face since he arrived in TNA. Had The Rising stable with Eli Drake and Micah(Tanga Roa/Camacho). Eli turned on him and Micah left to team with his brother in NJPW. If Rex and Galloway both make it to the finals of the tournament as they should I hope the championship match has longer than 3 minute rounds. 5 minute rounds would work.
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Galloway was face since he debuted in the company in Jan 2015 so he was face for over a year and a half. Matt was a heel from Jan this year up until about a month or so ago. He was one of the few times a heel character won over the crowd and became a face because a feud with another heel. |
C'mon Noid. You're one of my favourites here but you're making yourself look stupid here; you can't come into a thread trying to pick apart the booking and have no idea what's been going on for any part of the year. Please, man. I love you.
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I don't think you even need to be an avid consumer of a product to understand why it doesn't appeal to you. Not being able to easily decipher who is a face and who is a heel because there is a turn every few weeks is actually a problem. Matt being a heel for six months is not a long time. Granted, maybe he got "over" and started getting cheered, so kudos to TNA for rolling with the punches, but it's still inconsistent storytelling to switch someone every so many months.
Does anyone care to dispute the Bobby Lashley turns? Didn't Moose turn after being there for about a month? Come on, guys. You only need to be acquainted roughly with the conventions of storytelling to know this isn't effective. I don't need to go back and watch RAW from this past week to tell you that Kevin Owens losing a match as the Universal Champion this early into his run, in a Steel Cage Match, so close to Hell in a Cell, isn't exactly wonderful booking. I don't need to watch TNA every week to say "Holy fucking shit is this shit fucking confusing." Because it is. Simple Fan, how many times have you, in the Impact threads, had to explain the rules of a Grand Championship match to people? Don't you think this speaks volumes about what they are doing? And I'm sorry, but unless Drew Galloway isn't a fresh heel, and unless Aron Rex isn't a fresh babyface, I don't see how the overall point about this being counter-productive isn't valid. Does anyone care to dispute that? It's like when the crowds were chanting "Fire Russo!" and Dixie Carter took to the internet to say "Well, actually, Russo didn't even book it, so there." That's kinda missing the point... By the way, the irony in this is that people act as if the start of 2015 until now is a long time for someone to retain a disposition in professional wrestling. I suppose these days it is. |
Every thing you said makes no sense because you simply haven't watched. Moose came in as Bennets heavy but you could always tell there was tention when Bennet would spout off about Moose doing what he wants. Moose eventuall had enough and attacked Bennet. Set up Moose vs Bennett at Bound for Glory. Lashley has been heel for a while as well. Matt turned face partly because people like the gimmick and they were feuding with Decay. To say that heel/Face turns are happening every other week just isn't true. As for the Grand Championship tournament its pretty simple and I'm not sure how people are confused about it. Regular match broken down into three rounds basically. Not a huge fan of it but they tried, I hope the nix it after the tournament.
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Moose came in really recently didn't he? I don't get this "he's a bad guy, now he's a good guy" before you even really get the sense of who someone is. It's all very convoluted. It would suck in a movie too. It's just not good storytelling by any metric. Where's the suspense? Where's the built tension? It's like BOOM, SPLAT, POW! Slow down and tell a fucking story.
Lashley returned to TNA as a babyface on March 19, 2014. On May 15 he turned heel. There's one. On January 16, 2015, Lashley turns face when the BDC betrays him. That's two. On March 8, 2016, Lashley again turns heel when he keeps beating down Kurt Angle. That's three. He turned three times within a two year period. That may not be Bella fast, but it's Big Show fast. Where is the stability? Where is the development? Feuding with The Decay is not a good enough reason to turn a "fresh" heel character face, I'm sorry. You should have babyface teams lined up to feed to them, or whatever. The fans turning him is fair enough, because sometimes you do have to listen to the fans, but a better idea would be not running the gimmick in the first place, because you're going to have the neckbeards eat it up and then you're left with your nuts in the breeze because you've got this character that alienates fans of actual wrestling. You might get the Grand Championship rules, but you seem like a pretty avid consumer of whatever TNA throws out. Don't you think people being confused by it is evidence enough that it's confusing? The whole "you don't watch every week, therefore you can't possibly know how bad it truly is," argument is a straw-man. I can tell you that I do read up on TNA, and I can absolutely tell you why it doesn't appeal to me. It's not my job to continuously give chances to a show that makes itself so...ugly. And I'm entirely an expert on what I like to see in pro-wrestling. It's TNA's job to be good if it wants me to watch it more often and not get confused by the confusing shit it does that breaks all the rules of logic that have worked in wrestling for years and years. God, I wish TNA would just try professional wrestling again. I got excited when they put the X-Division Title on Eddie Edwards. I thought "Hey, they're going to go with a wrestler wrestling again." They then had Bobby Lashley throw down the belt and now it's held by a DJ. Fucking wonderful, TNA. And no, I'm not going to actually watch that, because it sounds fucking shit. |
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You can destruct screenplays of movie, you can dissect books, you can analyze still art work. Why can't you respond to the theory of the story of professional wrestling? You obviously don't believe you can, but I do, so we're always going to be at a stand-still with that. I'll grant you that some things work well in theory and then never work out well, and some things are awful on paper and then work really well. There are definitely intangibles. But let's be honest -- TNA is not lighting the world on fire. I'm sorry, but you're apologists for the product.
I'd like to know what these answers are. Please. Tell me why Lashley throwing the belt on the ground was a good thing. Tell me why these fragmented rounds are good. Tell me why Moose had to come in as a heel just to turn face within a two months, or whatever it was? Why couldn't he just feud with Mike Bennett? You can't. That's why you went blanket "if you don't watch you won't get it." Yeah, if you don't do meth you won't get what is appealing about the lifestyle either. Sell me on TNA by explaining what is actually good in it. I tried watching the "acclaimed" Hardy stuff, and it made me think I should have spent more time studying so I could be a doctor and help people in the third world. That's how much I disassociated. And, for the record, I DON'T watch WWE every week. In fact, I don't think I watched last week either. Backlash might have been the last thing I watched. Given that I am addicted to professional wrestling, my own problem, I have to get my fix from somewhere. WWE gets far more viewing from me than it arguably should. There are talents in that company that I do have high hopes for. But if there was a WCW-level alternative around, I guarantee you that I'd either be watching that, or that WWE would stop fucking around and start putting on a compelling product that isn't sinking every week. And, by the way, it's hard to watch Impact Wrestling in Australia since they lost their television deal because they're so fucking awful. So there's that too. |
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Im a wrestling fan but whatvever. Im not defending every aspect of TNA though. There are things in TNA that I dont like. The companty is run like shit. Not a big fan of the Grand Championship format but its not as complicated as people make it out to be. Its wrestling dude face/heel turns happen all the time, its not just a TNA thing. The Moose thing might have been predictable(alot these days is) but it set up Bennett vs Moose for Bound for Glory. I dont care if you dont like the product but when go comparing it to the promotion you dreamed about and shitting on it for things as simple as a turn you didn't see you sound silly. Like I said your one of my favorite poster because I can talk alit of wrestling with you but I honestly believe you are growing out of wrestling since nothing really suits you anymore.
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See, the face/heel turns happening all the time thing is the conditioning to a modern product. They didn't used to happen all the time. Not everything was some big angle, because if every segment was an angle they would stop to matter. This a post-Russo hangover. Everyone has to be doing something, kinetic, hitting someone with something, or changing all the time. Wrestling can be patient, smart and emotionally effective. There is a spot in wrestling for short title reigns, sudden turns, quick turnarounds and changing direction; but there's also a spot for slow-builds, planning, tension, coherence, and sticking to something.
TNA has burnt a lot of bridges with many different fans and many different talents over the years. Its core "identity players" have all left (save for Abyss), and almost all of them have gone on to do bigger and better things. That jades people. And it's not the fault of the on-air talent there or even some of the people behind the scenes right now. It is very easy to see the bad in TNA and overlook the good it is trying to do -- I'll give you that. But it doesn't help itself with some of the shit it throws out there -- it really doesn't. See, I can watch older things and I still love it. If I were truly outgrowing wrestling, wouldn't I be like "hmm, that was stupid." No, I love wrestling. I just don't like the current trend that everything needs to be bad to be good. Or that because it's fake it doesn't matter what story you tell. Or the excuse that everything is bad justifies things being bad. I love your posting, man, and I love that you engage with so much, and I'm sorry to be such a downer -- well, I'll rephrase that -- I'm sorry if me being critical of things gets people down -- that's not my cause. But I don't feel much like censoring my opinion because it's easier to stick fingers in ears and go "la-la-la." Debate me, argue with me, prove me wrong -- that's all well and good -- but I'm not going to stop because I also love wrestling; I just hate the shape that it's in. |
Well, maybe I will get bored and stop, who knows? We'll play it by ear.
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Ok wrestling out grew you then.
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Wrestling has seem to have "out-grown" most people, given the current data.
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Not working, man. Like TNA's creative direction.
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Just took it from the previous page. Don't know what gje problem is.
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If that's supposed to be Maria's ass, I am outraged at the internet for letting us down.
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Fixed it but still don't know what happened.
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The gif TNA'd itself.
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Figured something like this would happen. No way they have enough money to do anything after Bound for Glory. I like that Corbin wants to change the name and all but off WWE is involved then they will probably get a deal done. If so I'd like to see WWE take EC3, Eli Drake, The Wolves, Lashley, Galloway, The Hardy's, Decay, and Gail Kim. Also hope they use the X division in NXT.
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maby wwe would keep them as an indy company just buy the library let billy run the company it is better for wwe if tna is still around
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They really don't need TNA as NXT is pretty much the same thing as TNA. I could see Corbin taking what was left and starting his own company. Doesn't seem like he has interest in the TNA name since he wants to change it so starting a promotion from scratch would probably suit him more.
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It's seems like every few months there's a "TNAs out of money" rumor by the Almighty Meltzer. Just like they were supposedly out of money for Slamaversery, then again for a tv taping a couple weeks ago, now they're supposedly out of money again. I say we just wait and see what happens
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How long as Meltz really been sounding the "TNA is in real trouble?" horn though? I've only really read him on it since the loss of Spike, and it has been a real genuine slope into chaos for them since then. There are talent that still claim TNA didn't pay them properly.
Corgan buying it was something I am excited for, but that was until his chief ideas were to throw down existing belts, create new belts with convoluted rules and focus on the backyard stuff with The Hardys. Honestly, WWE buying them would be the most gracious end they could hope for at this point. The "TNA Drinking Games" could find life on the WWE Network. They can produce documentaries on the fall of the company and some of the talent there, and they will no doubt pick up the guys and gals that are really worth something there. I just hope Gail Kim hasn't burnt too many bridges and is willing to go back. :y: It's hard to have much sympathy for a company that has had so many opportunities, so many incredible performers pass through it, the perfect positioning on a cable network, a PPV deal...and squandered all of it. Everyone in TNA will find work someone else. Maybe it won't be in WWE, because some of them don't fit the WWE philosophy or honestly aren't good in the right ways, but they will all be able to make livings, and hopefully other companies do their best to use that talent correctly and not piss on their own legs. |
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TNA does not need a mid-card title.
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Lock Jaw just invested a whole bunch of money into TNA, hopefully his experience as Raw GM helps him turn around this company.
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ROH announced CMLL star Dragon Lee will challenge for the ROH TV Title at Final Battle. KUSHIDA will be in the finals of the 6 Man Tag Tournament, and Kyle O'Reilly will be challenging for the World Title. PLUS the debut of Cody Rhodes. I'm also hopefuly I'll get to see Will Ospreay and/or Marty Scurll. I'll be there in the front row at the Hammerstein. Shaping up to be a good time
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I liked Dragon Lee's look. For a dude doing it as short a time as him, I think he's crisp as hell. I didn't like the style I see him work at their last PPV against some guy whose name I've already forgotten. But I think the TV Title scene is a good place for him. Bobby Fish could walk him through a match that draws out genuine emotion.
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You're probably talking about the Kamaitaichi match. Those guys have history but it was more of a showcase match. I am excited to see what he can do with Fish. I kind of want Lee to pull off the upset and make CMLL a force in ROH.
I might be spoiling this here, but since no one really watches I doubt anyone will care, they're also booking The Young Bucks defending their tag team titles against The Briscoes. 6 Man Tag Title Finals will be ACH, KUSHIDA, & Jay White vs. The winner of The Addiction/Kamaitaichi vs. The New Kingdom. Haven't seen anything from the New Kingdom yet, and I love The Addiction/Kamaitaichi. Hoping they win the whole thing. |
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Its very similar to the KRD in ROH only they have white mask instead of red. KRD was just to introduce Sabin though so i think they will be more to them. I'll wait to see who they are though. I'm sure they will be DELETED.
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The Cabinet seem to be repackaging themselves in ROH. Came out talking about how ROH made them parade around with the silly gimmick. Haven't said what their new name is but they that there is more of them so I guess they'll get some new members. Kind of glad as the Cabinet was shitty and getting stale.
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This week's TNA was pretty good. I really enjoyed the 4 way dance, that inside out slam on Lashley by Trevor Lee was SICK (that guy his some serious potential). The main event was really enjoyable as well. I liked the EC3 and Eli Drake segment and the whole Jade/ Rosemary thing they got going on (mostly because it's "different") I personally liked Jessie vs Arron. I liked it because Arron Rex played a really good "old school" style heel. No fancy moves, just a lot of dirty heat to gain sympathy for the face. Jesse is amazing as well, guy is a tremendous athlete and can do some crazy stuff in the ring considering how muscular he is. The two "bad" things about this show was the women's match and Shera. Brandi is not ready to be in the ring on tv yet.... and I don't understand that because she was in WWE developmental for like 3 years. Shera.... what can I say. I honestly think he's trying real hard and from what everyone tells me he is a really great guy.... there's still some obvious holes in his game and he's been on tv for like 2 years now :-\ |
The whole Knockouts division has fell off since Maria came in I think. I like Maria but the whole division has revolved around her and she's not the best in ring talent. As for Shera I'm not sure what they could do for him. I personally liked him better as Koya. Really think he should be in the X Division.
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Can't remember if I ever mentioned it.... but I really like Aaron Rex as a heel. He reminds me of an "old school" heel. Not every heel needs to be dark or edgy or monstrous. Sometimes you just need a cocky, condescending heel who does douchey things to makes you want to see him get his ass kicked |
Too much of a gay voice. Also still wearing those terrible pink tights. Terrible promo by EC3. Both showing why they aren't ready for Prime Time. Sandow came in with all momentum but now is about as well received as a wet fart.
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I haven't liked Aron Rex at all. Not even sure what his gimmick is. Agree with STD about the pink tights and yeallow knee pads, looks like a generic CAW on a video game. Doesn't help that he has been featured the most in the Impact Grand Championship type matches that are rather dumb now that the initial tournament is over.
I always liked him in WWE and thought he always did a good job with what ever they have him. Just doesnt seem like there is any thing to the Aron Rex character though. TNA gives talent more freedom character wise but I feel like he is more suited for WWEs style of controlling a character for him to play. |
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Damien Sandow had good potential in the WWE. I was surprised when they gave him MITB. It pretty much destroyed him.
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