One of my favorite experiences going to the theater was when I saw Silent Hill: Revelations and there were literally only two other people in the same screening as me. Yes, even though I sat and viewed one of the worst things ever put to film I enjoyed myself for the simple fact that I didn't have to put up with a room full of dipshits.

Right?


You can get a decent set of "home theater" speakers for less than $200 for a room and TV's are cheaper than they've ever been. Don't shy away from pawn shops if you're on a super tight budget either, they can have shit just as good as new sometimes.


Couple this with things like Hulu and Sling watch Party and it's pretty easy to still enjoy stuff with others while still being comfy in your own home.

First episode of What if was good. It's the Captain Carter story.

Oh, hell, is it already airing? It completely slipped my brain. :o

What If..... tall muscular Peggy Carter had sex with skinny scrawny Steve Rogers.... what would that have looked like and would she have broke him in half?

He'd be disqualified on his asthma alone.

I wonder if she ended up being stronger than MCU Steve Rogers?

Who hell is cutting onions while I see Chadwick Boseman's name credited in the latest "What If...?" episode?

really poorly written ep of what if. in this premise T'Challa leaves his family for the literal 1st random strangers the come along. this at this point is the canonical mcu T'Challa. it completely undermines his entire character.


and the entire episode has this little attention to the characters authenticity. whats the point of a what if if theres no integrity in the story telling to exist in a version of a time line that resembles something tha feels like a logical extension into a possible potential multiverse?


this is much closer to slap stick than what if.

also what about becoming a gardner made thanos such a pussy? goes from omega level threat to giant bitch

I liked it, and I didn't see it that way.

I realize this is going to sound pretentious, but looking at both episodes so far, it feels like they're trying to tell stories of nature vs nurture. The only flaw is that the chunks are so bite-sized that it almost feels incomplete, even as one-off stories... but it doesn't seem insincere to me. Peggy "sacrificed" herself rather than let the experiment go completely to waste in those few precious seconds. Steve still wanted to help. T'Challa is more learned, diplomatic, and jovial than the recently orphaned and greiving Peter.

With T'Challa, they said it right there at the beginning, "right/wrong place at the right/wrong time". It wasn't simply just them screwing up and not abducting Quill, but they caught him at the right moment where he felt like he was cooped up and shut in away from seeing anything else outside of Wakanda. If aliens strolled up to me in 1988, I'd have prob'ly done the same thing. Being a dumbass, curious kid who has the potential to go up into space would have absolutely overrode most fear and logically thinking about abandoning everything I know since I was OBSESSED with space back then.

About Thanos being "a pussy" - it's similar to the impression I got from both Infinity War movies: Older Thanos did the work, calculated, put in the effort, sacrificed to "win". Younger Thanos just saw his variant succeed and figured it was a foregone conclusion, and as such got cocky and sloppy. Similarly, the Thanos here stopped being that guy, so he got soft. The difference would be like fighting Mike Tyson in his prime and fighting Mike Tyson now. I'm not talking age, I mean back when he hated the world and trained like a beast as opposed to being the more mature, wiser, calmer, higher Tyson. He can still knock someone out assuredly, but just in some random street fight, he is not in the same condition or headspace he was back then... same here with Thanos. He's not the terror of the universe anymore. It took two of what *we* know of as his strongest leftenants to actually eventually get an advantage on him, but it wasn't exactly instant.

But also, in the end, these are basically throwaway stories. This existence is basically doomed because Ego apparently got what he wanted, but that's just what went down in this particular cosmic coin flip.

Prob'ly like that movie My Super Ex-Girlfriend, except instead replace Uma Thurman with She-Hulk. Like, the more recent, more sizeable and "dumb speak" Shulkie.

youre right about these being throwaway stories. they have no value.

(which was not true of the what ifs in the 80s/90s)

going into ep3 ill at least be prepared now

Huh...have to say the latest "What If...?" is probably the best one so far.

I actually went down the wrong path.



Not bad for a 30 minute whodunit, though.

I love 'whodunits' so if they could more in this series or in other films it'd be tops. It was throwing me for a loop because they didn't spell out the "what if...?" in the beginning like they did with the other episodes so I was going through my Rolodex of suspects which meant I was engaged and that's always a plus.

:shifty:

pretty easily the best one so far even if its still leaving a lot of potential on the table. if they keep improving though there might be a gem here yet. holding out hope.

Thought the latest episode was veering into cop out territory but it brought it back around with the ending. It wasn't the typical wrap-up we've seen from the first three. I'm not sure if it's better than last week's but it's still fairly solid.

Really enjoyed the strange ep. i dont really know how



but its a minor gripe because i think they managed to tell a very good dr strange story. really enjoyed it


also:

Not sure what else they're building towards in regards to the mid-credits scene in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. There are a lot balls in the air as far as what Marvel is trying to juggle.

Eh...

[QUOTE=Tom Guycott;5477260]Eh...



[/QUOTEits a massive leap. going to magic because youre sad doesnt follow any kind logic]

I don't see it that way.

Ugh, Marvel zombies for the newest "What If...?" Least favorite episode on general principle.

Looks like they have "fixed" Sins of the Past in Spiderman and now I am waiting to see whether One More Day is on the chopping block or whether M.Js miscarriage will be retconned

The original marvel zombies stories were good. As oversaturated as zombies are, it could still be a fun episode.

Fucking great actually

zombies was good. characters all acted in the parameters of their canonical selves..seems like a low bar but thats all i really want from these. be fun and be consistent. zombies hit that.

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Is it bad that I legitimately want to see that Rogers: The Musical?

Nope!

Well with last week's "What If...?" leaving a bad taste in my mouth, this week's was way more palatable. A bit of a weak ending, I think, but just the fact that Killmonger is brought back into things and pairing him with Stark is just goodness all around.

Still haven't watched any except the first week.... I should maybe check them out....

This What If was the weakest by far, but still alright. I don't know when and why Kilmonger is suddenly a Marvel-class engineer but whatever. I kinda felt from the jump that a story with Kilmonger was gonna over reach. He is an extremely overrated villain.

I felt like this was something that would've worked better with more time. Not neccessarily a full-fleged MCU live movie, but some sort of "What If....?" feature, similar to the DCAU things. It was like they wanted to explore both Killmonger's intentions and used the idea of Stark never getting captured and thus becoming Iron Man as a springboard for it instead of giving both concepts time to flesh out. Hell, even the ending seemed like there should be a resolution after instead of another story concept that is going untold.


Pop culture poularity is a hell of a thing. Honestly surprised they didn't work in his "Hey, Auntie!" Remember, Batman TAS episode Heart of Ice is why Mr. Freeze went from any one of DC's 20 interchangable ice themed villans to sympathetically tragic A-lister. Deadpool went from a jab at Slade "across the street", to comic nerd in-joke, to worldwide in-joke. And, for fuck's sake, Loki. Nobody gave a single, solitary fuck about Marvel's version of Loki until the movies, and now he's reaching Wolverine levels of popularity and morphing into this "loveable, rougish antihero". If Michael B. Jordan didn't kill it in the movie, or they cast some kinda shitty actor, or didn't give him half the "cool" dialogue he got, he'd still be an also-ran amongst the ranks of your Black Toms and Smart Alecs.

Rebooting Kilmonger into a quasi-Magneto was alright, and he was pretty good in the movie. I just feel he's oversold as some compelling villain when we have the Magnetos, Kingpins, and Dr Dooms out there. He's very obvious for his archetype but ironically my biggest issue is they killed him. He had a lot of ways to go considering the sub mythology of the military in the MCU. Would Fury recruit him for Shield? Why not? How would he feel about Isaiah and what happened to him? Would an experience change him for the better? Things like that.

A lot of it is about the vehicle they’re in; Black Panther was a worldwide smash, King Pin and Doom might be “better villains” or “more compelling” but they’ve featured in either subpar movies/shows or have been horribly mishandled.

I’m still sort of hoping they retcon his death and bring him back in Wakanda Forever. A redemption for him might work.

Kingpin was in a subpar show..?

Yeah, I'm going to have to profess my love for the Netflix version of Fisk.

Netflix Daredevil very good. The Best Daredevil.

Sorry, missed out the part that specifically related to Fisk from Netflix’ Daredevil; it’s great but it’s not on the same level as the MCU movies. A fraction of the people that went to see Black Panther (and most other MCU movies) will have watched Daredevil on Netflix. That’s why Kingpin isn’t in the conversation.

I'm wondering what the combination of Netflix's Fisk and the voice of Fisk from the '90s Spider-Man cartoon would be like.

It's not an election. As far as characterizations go Kingpin runs circles around Kilmonger. But even if we keep in the MCU just for Kilmonger's sake; Loki, Zemo, Pearce, and now Mandarin all round out better than Kilmonger.

That was good voice work, yeah.

Nice. That ending sure took the phrase in a different direction...

107 was proper fun

That wedding tho...

that can be canonical and id be ok

YES! It had the fight that I wanted to see in the movies! I was hoping they would've done something like it at the beginning of Endgame but no dice. Nice that they were able to do it here. That alone makes me give this "What If...?" a thumbs up.

LOL, she's cute as fuck. Shame it got canceled.

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Me too.

There's something about that paring. It doesn't have to be a wedding. Hell, it doesn't even have to be strictly romantic. If he showed up on Earth, she seems like the person who would find him. Or have him comically crash land into her life. Prob'ly shortly after the events of WandaVison with some lament of "Is it me attracting all this... weirdness?" And Howard responding with "Eh. I've seen weirder."

What If is amazing.

Still only watched the first episode.... should watch the rest....

If you told me way back that the freakin cartoon would be the best thing out of Phase 4 I'd hit you in the face.

thats a hot tak if there ever was one

new ep is good. very enjoyable

I'm torn as to whether or not to call this the best episode of the season. The main one-on-one fight scene is cool as fuck and it has such a dark, hopeless tone to it all. I will say that this episode really brought to the forefront as to how awful the Watcher looks, though. Just my opinion.

lol i was just talking about this with a friend.

Phase 4 so has been very 'aight' for me so far and it doesn't help that there doesn't seem to be a plan here like Phase 2 and 3. You Julia's character being an anti-fury recruiting angsty antiheroes which may or may not be a Thunderbolts thing, and then this multiverse thing which is fun but ultimately canon suicide at some point.

Shit, some of the Matrix cartoons were better than the movie. Fight me.

the animatrix is vastly superior to the 2nd and 3rd films

Speaking of that the 'Star Wars Animatrix' thing is out on Disney+. You'd think they make a bigger deal of the launch, I just stumbled on it adding Bad Batch to my queue.

Already have a friend haranguing me about needing to see Venom: Let There Be Carnage, which I won't be doing.

ill watching it when it hits streaming. i dont want sony thinking that their IPs are fine on their own. that next contract negotiation is pivotal

Still never watched the first one.... thought about watching it and then going to watch the sequel today on my day off work.... but then on the other hand I thought "nah"

the 1st is the opposite of good

...the word isnt coming to me....

oh yeah: bad. the first one is bad.

Got another friend who shared a video with me in which another dumb conspiratorial dork tries to make something out of Wanda becoming the Scarlet Witch in "WandaVision" at the same time He Who Remains reaches the realization that he can't see the future anymore in "Loki". He even synchs up the audio and video to show that the two events happen concurrently and that's supposed to prove....something. That's sort of the problem with these dumbasses. Also, never mind that Wanda is supposed to be in the present and Loki and company are off at the end of time. I can always picture these types of people as just one bad day away from becoming that obsessed lunatic with corkboards littered with pictures and diagrams pinned to them, all connected with red string. I had to tell my friend that at this point in time it's safe to dismiss these kinds of people because it eventually turns out that everything they spew DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING!

I watched the Post Credit as I know I won’t be catching it at the cinema. Interesting.

:y:

I just finished that up yesterday. Interesting concept with the different studios making independent fanfics, but the range in quality shifts as vastly as the tone. That first Kurosawa-esque episode was FUCKING AMAZING, and the one with the twins was FUCKING ABYSMAL.

So the final "What If...?" episode, huh? Interesting collection of Guardians. The premise had a vibe of Ultimate Alliance after that game's third act; which is good because that game is awesome. Having a thread saved the whole series from being a complete wash but if there's a season two, I'm not sure where they go. I'd like it if they started incorporating the Netflix series' characters in some fashion.

what if finale

What a great finale.

Also, I would not be against Captain Carter making an appearance in the movies once the multiverse gets ripped open.

:shifty:

what ifs attention to lore was pretty awful though which is frustrating because the mcu has been very good about it by in large and more over in comics what if stories typically reward attention to detail where here we have a complete disregard for it

i did enjoy the show the show though. just left me wanting.

The writer mentioned something about Ultron using the stones to power himself hence so many physical attacks and punching thru universes mixed up everything into a "soup".

But that's just spinning the fact that Loki was probably written the same time as What If and some world building just falls thru the cracks. Otherwise there should have been some TVA activity in that finale, it's literally their job to deal with exactly this.

Yeah no.

Agatha getting her own spinoff series on Disney+

Ok, that's a bit much.

ffalse on the first count and utterly ridiculous on the second.

Yeah....

I liked it... but*



... all that said, though it might not seem like it is so, I actually liked it. Again, without putting much thought into it. And overall, this seemed more like an excuse to exercise some stuff that may have hit some cinematic cutting room floors from various MCU movies and shows.

Eternals reviews starting to come in, and currently sitting below Thor: The Dark World scores on "Rotten Tomatoes "

Not surprising, it looks fucking boring.

I've tried to get into the comics several times because I love cosmic stuff, and eternals serves as an introduction to the celestial, but I've had to give up every time. They're just not interesting characters at all.

Yeah, I read one Eternals thing once and it was mad boring

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Fuck yeah

woah

Holy fucking balls!!!!!!


Its gonna be soooooooooooo good.

Very brief previews of Moon Knight and She Hulk look good. Moon Knight especially looks like they captured the tone of the character perfectly.