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Well I kind of see why they didn't do carnage in the first one because once you do him, what the fuck do you do from there? Venom doesn't exactly have a robust rogues gallery.

There's Knull, but you couldn't really do him justice unless it was in the MCU

Look cool.

ive still not seen the 1st

Well, it's not like they have to do more than one movie.

Ditto.... it came on one streaming service and I thought "I should watch this".... now I think it is on Netflix as well and still just never put it on....

I will always maintain that Crispin Glover was born to play Kletus Kassidy.

Of course, I also thought that Heather Locklear was born to play Emma Frost and look where that got me.

Do they have to make it so funny? Is that the thing to do with these movies now? I don't feel like Venom is supposed to be funny, but I could be way off here.

There's also what does Sony have the rights to use. Most of Venom's rogues come from Spider-Man's.

Of course they don't have to, but that's not how the movie industry works.

There's always been a little bit of humor even going back to his first mini series. Probably not as much as these movies, but as long as the majority of the movie takes the subject matter seriously, I'm okay with it.

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Read a few Eternals series and they were freaking boring.... did they "get interesting" sometime after I stopped reading Marvel?

Also... Richard Madden looks pretty much exactly like Sebastian Stan.

This was always a ballsy propertyto adapt because the source material is pretty weak. my curiosity in this movie is to see why they chose it at all. it has to be an indicator of what theyre looking to do long term. a piece they need to transition into whatever comes next.

Trailer doesn't tell us much. A little worried about the sheer amount of new characters it's introducing. We saw how that worked out in x-men apocalypse.

Hoping for an appearance by the celestials.

Get an "Inhumans" vibe from it. Hopefully it turns out better than that did.

this has more but Guardians handled a large cast of new characters well so its not entirely uncharted waters at least

I tried to get into the Eternals comics a number of times because they're tied to Marvel's cosmic side, which I love, but they're just so uninteresting.

I was never as surprised as other people that Guardians was a success, because the run it was based on, was one of the best reads in comics at the time. There are no great Eternals runs, however, so this is going to be Marvel Studio's biggest test yet.

Wonder if it being post-Endgame will hurt it too.... Like before, people would go "I gotta go see it they are building up to this massive thing" but now people might be "Meh, they are done. It's over. I have no reason to go see this random movie"

I like the teaser...read some plot spoilers on reddit a while back that this teaser seems like could be true.

I think it will be good...shot mostly using natural lighting, very different "look" for cinematography than other Marvel flix

Yeah.... Guardians would have been unknown to mostly everybody too, but at least they had entertaining source material.

@fignuts i agree with that. the mcu in general going forawrd is a huge test. they have no star power really. cap and stark were huge draws.

spidey will revert to sony after this 3 picture deal is up. so he will be gone by phase 5.

Black panther is dead.

star lord can hold his own as a draw. i dunno how long pratt wants to go but they do have him. so thats a plus.

it starts getting scarce from there. i dont think captian marvel is going to have the legs they want her to have. i think a big chunk of the audience who saw the 1st film left very unimpressed

i think the x-men can save it but outside of that... very pivotal moment for them.

will the audience view Avengers 4 as a good point to get off the ride?

Concept art Disney released at D23 shows the Deviants will be massive in scale


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...sxXqw87KyXnYG8

https://bgr.com/wp-content/uploads/2...y=70&strip=all

exactly this.

With BP being this phases cap i thought they would be fine...losing him is a huge blow

Those are Celestials.

My bad

I haven't watched any of the MCU shows on Disney yet. I know Wandavision and Falcon/Soldier are both probably really good but I haven't gotten the vibe I needed to watch them to understand future MCU films. I also think future MCU films won't be as big of hits, seems hard to top the hype/interest Infinity War and Endgame had. I don't think they'll flop by any means but I just don't see them being as big as before.

Yeah, I think they might have made "enough" fans who will stick with it no matter what and see whatever they are fed (barring several critically panned movies in a row or something), but I think a lot of the more casuals will jump off.

i think wandavision is going to be massive.. i think its how think we are going to get mutants. you can sum up the vitals of falcon/winter soldier in a single sentence. falcon is cap now. thats all you need. its good but its impact is far less.

It's a shame because Captain Marvel could have been a really big deal. I don't even blame the casting, because Brie is a good actress, but the way they had her portray the character was baffling. Carol is meant to have an aggressive, outspoken personality, and it's the exact opposite in the movie.

They do still have Thor, don't forget. Love and Thunder has the potential to be really good, as it's based on, imo, the best Thor run of all time.

I think what they have will still get them through phase 4, but X-Men and FF will make or break phase 5 and beyond.

WandaVision was slower and more drawn-out to watch I think, but feel like it definitely "mattered" more and will have more "long term" repercussions seen in the movies.

While Falcon/Winter Soldier I think I definitely enjoyed watching more, but did feel more like just another typical Marvel movie (which really have all become just, "yeah, that was entertaining and good but I have no desire to ever watch it again")

I think FF being done by the same director as the Tom Holland spidey movies is promising. Thor: Love and Thunder I'm really looking forward to. I'm personally really interested in Eternals since I think it will be really good but after that comes out Love & Thunder is the next MCU film I'm most excited for.

oh and Ant-Man: Quantum-Mania

I really enjoyed the first two Ant-Man flicks a ton

It's honestly hard to say after all the unexpected success stories they've had. Hell, the whole thing started with a hero that most people had only heard about, if they knew him at all.

I think building towards Galactus as a phase 6 villain could get casuals just as invested as they did towards Thanos.

i love thor. he's my 2nd fav hero behind spidey. but his films have not been draws. im ultra hyped for thor 4 and i think thor 3 won over a lot of people but until he starts pulling bigger numbers i dont think its fair to count him in the "big star" camp. he could become far more. i hope he does. but thor 1 and thor 2...nearly flops. thor 2 is considered by many to be the worst mcu film (rediculous because its objectively The Incredible Hulk [Ed Norton])

very low box office numbers for the 1st 2

Really liked the second Ant-Man and third Thor movies. That being said, haven't watched them since the theater and don't really feel a pressing urge to rewatch them. Same with a lot of Marvel movies. They have become more like... dunno... disposable entertainment. One and done.

We're also possibly getting a Thunderbolts movie, based on how Falcon/WS panned out.

ive never rewatched a marvel movie. its the serial that hooks me. i dont need to see them again.

Hulk beats out Dark World for me, just because the villains are better and the romantic story between Bruce and Betty is done better than Thor and Jane. Otherwise, yeah, they're both equally low.

I think Thor 4 will be the best one yet based on how well 3 did critically. People know not to sleep on it now.

Yeah.... haven't rewatched a non-Avengers movie since before Doctor Strange. Infinity War I rewatched before Endgame came out... and Endgame I rewatched and was like... "you know, without the thrill of the event of seeing it for the first time this is quite long and tedious. What am I doing?"

Tim Roth was good in Hulk but I'll never not swoon for Nataly Portman. id simp for anything she does ever.

I still enjoy rewatching them once in a while, as the fight choreography is the best in the superhero genre. Lots of neat team up moves and such.

It really had nothing to do with her performance, as she's Natalie fucking Portman, of course she did the best job anyone could. It was more how the characters were written and the scenes they were in which left me with that impression. Which isn't to say they were bad, just that Hulk did it a little better imo.

her role in 2 felt forced. like she was shoe horned into a script 1 month out from production

like in star wars i felt like she got as much mileage out of the script she was given as any actress on earth could have

I still have no idea why Angelina Jolie is in this.

Because all actors/actresses will eventually be a part of the MCU

Keep Rob Schneider and Kevin James out of my super hero movies.

That's 2 of the Fantastic 4 right there

I think it's good casting. She has a look well suited for the whole.

She's a good actress and one of the few who did well in action movies pre-Marvel taking over the world so it doesn't bother me.

Did Gemma Chan die in Captain Marvel? I can't remember.

Confused as to why she went from Kree to Eternal.

Yeah, her character got blown up in her ship by Rambeau.

I'm still thinking that Richard Madden and Sebastian Stan look like the same guy and that is gonna confuse people

Lol maybe they have a slight resemblance to each other. Saying that might even be a stretch.

You might be alone on that one.

https://i.imgur.com/e3ah5AI.jpg

i mean

he is obviously not even close to alone on this

I mean

Yeah apparently it’s a thing. I didn’t know that.

She didn't. She's playing a completely different character. Apparently Fiege loved her so much he wanted to bring her back for a more substantial role.

That's because this was supposed to be an Inhumans movie. Until Pearlmutter fucked it up.

That chick they got to play Crystal was fucking awful.

I know, Figs.

It's like Chris Evans started out as Human Torch then he's Captain America. While I understand that the FOX got the F4 rights.

One of those things that pisses me off when it comes to comic book flicks these days.

conversely id had prefered a recast for black panther

Eh I didn't mind the War Machine recasting because he's a supporting character, who doesn't require that much personality to play, but Black Panther is another story. A major character with a great performance behind it. I don't think I would have liked a recasting. Shuri taking over works just fine for me.

Also would have preferred a recast. Feel like the best way to "honour" Chadwick is to continue on telling the best possible stories and continuing to make T'Challa a household name. Yeah, Shuri was Black Panther in the comics for a bit..... but there's a reason why the classic characters always come back even if someone else takes up the mantle for a bit.

The problem with Shuri taking over is what theme do you explore with the story? Do you do the "new ruler needs to learn how to be a ruler" thing? It makes sense, sure, but that was kind of already hit on with the first movie and it would feel like we're just going over the same territory. They could ignore the elephant in the room flat out and just go all in but that's a pretty big elephant to not address. Needless to say, what you should take away from all of this is fuck cancer in all its forms.

absolutely agree. moreover we lost a great actor and the response is we also lost a great character. a character who not only deserves to shine for the strength of the character alone (probably a top 10 character for me) but theres also what he represents for all the little black boys in the world. a character who wasnt repurposed to be black to fit a quota or to be woke token representation but an original property thats theirs and no one elses. and a character that shines just as brightly as any other character not because he's black but because he's just a great character that happens to be black.

Chadwicks death was a tragedy but the response, in an effort to honor him, is a travesty.

we're already mourning Chadwick. its a shame we have to mourn T'Challa too

Maybe don't kill T'Challa off, but they can have him "missing" for a movie, then next time they can bring him back recast

Read at your own caution, possible Eternals plot...

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudi...arly/?sort=new

Thanos is a deviant in the comics, and I was hoping his hijinks would be the reason they decided to finally reveal themselves, but he's not even mentioned. So that fucking sucks.

Looks like it will be a decent action flick, but probably not on the level of other marvel blockbusters. Not convinced it will be a stinker, but it might not be worth the theater visit.

I will, because I'm a huge marvel fan.

Aaron Taylor-Johnson comes back from the comic book dead..........sort of.

He'll be Kraven the Hunter for Sony's next project. https://www.imdb.com/news/ni63308965/?ref_=hm_nw_tp_3


And, Marvel makes it official by announcing Oscar Isaac as Moon Knight.

It does seem (if that link is accurate) there is an unexpected tie-in to Thanos

Isaac joins Chris Evans and Michael B. Jordan in making the leap from the Fox wasteland to the greener pastures of the MCU.

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Seeing more and more of that is making me less and less interested. Why can't the rings just be regular rings for your fingers?

Would be too similar to Thanos Infinity Gauntlet IMO

They should do a crossover with Sonic the Hedgehog

More sold on Shang Chi now. Cool cinematography and action. I don't mind them simplifying the ten rings. The source is very comic booky wouldnt necissarily work great on screen.

Pretty sure that was Abomination he was fighting in the final scene.

Yeah but I think that was Wong/another sorcerer fighting him.

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Has nice animation but like I've said before I'm not a fan of alternate reality stories.

Each episode should just end mid-way through when the TVA comes in and resets everything

Which is why this series is kinda moot anyway. Seems like some weird way to get some fanfic stuff on-screen, I dunno. I don't follow closely enough but had the same thought as you, Lock from Jawington.

Although with the TVA living outside of the normal constraints of spacetime, is One-Above-All able to stop this shite too?

Sad that Lock Jaw never replied :(

A man with great knowledge, nay Truly Great knowledge on the comics and I asked a genuine question.

To this question? Dunno Marvel as well.... but if as the name implies they are above all I imagine they could do anything....

That's what the What if series has always been. It's not meant to be taken too seriously.

The TVA is pretty much fucked after the Loki finale. The one above all is dumb and hopefully is never introduced in the mcu.

Aren't we, the paying consumers, the One-Above-All? :shifty:

Oooh, now I wanna watch Loki. Intrigued.


One-Above-All definitely dumb and would wreck the past two decades of the MCU. Would be a suicide pill.

Peter Parker luck trumps all

So I guess with Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings that ends my streak of staying in the comfort of my own home since Disney isn't doing Premier Access. I actually enjoyed the time away from the theater. I hate going when there's a crowd and the privacy of watching things on my laptop was boss as fuck. Nothing personal against the people who would be with me in the theaters but, you know, I fucking hate you all. :)

I get you. I went to see Black Widow last week and it was great being back in front of the Big Screen BUT I was sat next to a guy breathing incredibly noisily through his nose and it was SO distracting. I did find myself thinking “I could have watched this at home…”.

The viewing experience of damn near anything is better at home than live. Football especially gets me here.

I love Lucas Oil Stadium and all, but the seats are shitty, you're packed in there like a clown car and the aforementioned grossness of others. Just... no thanks. I can get a much better view of the action at home.

Not rasslin' though. Rasslin' is always better live.

Indeed.


Always surprises me when I used to get "lower level" seats just how close they were. Arena always looks bigger on TV than it really is. Was usually within the first 10 rows of the lower level.


Remember when Fink was still with the "E" and hollering out to him "Fink is THE MAN, WOOOOO!!!" and getting a good laugh and acknowledgement out of him.