They will wouldn't have lost to Dallas had they "lost" this game. Why are you so obsessed with thinking pre-season games matter except for the Coaches to evaluate talent?

You tried to make "Grapefruit League Champion" a thing this year.

I feel like eventually, the ridiculous penalties and overall direction of the NFL will begin to hurt its bottom line. There will soon be a generation that doesn't care about the NFL all that much. Still make 100s of millions instead of billions.

They are going in the direction of the Arena Football League with these defensive penalties.

Seems they want to kill the idea that defense wins championships.

<font color=goldenrod>Legit glad to see Michael Sam playing well. The best case scenario was always that he played well and made the team based on his on-field performance. If he had a terrible preseason you know it would have been a shitstorm whether they decided to keep him or not.</font>

Ravens are 5-0 vs the Cowboys, Only other team with an undefeated record vs another team is the Texans who are 8-0 vsthe Dolphins, they are also 3-0 vs bears.

Nobody cares.

How many teams have are undefeated against the Cowboys since 1996 when only playing them 5 or less times?

Expansion teams are undefeated against teams they only face every once in awhile?

:eek:

How many of your games in that list are pre-season?

SO happy to have Jerome Boger back in my life

Preseason football is life.

Why with all the hate on Droford? If he likes preseason good for him. I wish i did, would be able to enjoy more football that way.

Nothing against Droford, but c'mon. Preseason football is fucking awful.

Make fun of Droford all you want, but at the end of the day he's the one laughing all the way to the bank with coupons in hand.

<font color=goldenrod>Odell Beckham re-injures his hamstring for the 3rd time in as many months, ruled out vs. the Jets where he was expected to finally get into a game.

Starting to doubt he'll play at all this season. Hamstring injuries take months and months to heal properly. Ugh.</font>

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I like our new QB.

<font color=goldenrod>Brian Hoyer officially named the Browns' Week 1 starting QB to the surprise of nobody except ESPN.</font>

Johnny Backup
Johnny Clipboard
Johnny Bench
Johnny

Johnny Thankful He won't get eaten alive by people sick of his shit?

no

It appears Jim Kelly doesn't have the cancer anymore. Hooray for Jim Kelly.

Giants O-line can't do a god damn thing in the passing game. Eli is running for his life on every play. And now Schwartz got carted off.

Fuck.

Johnny Towel-Warmer.

Just stop....

<font color=goldenrod>The Giants' first string passing game finally put together a great drive. 2-minute drill, going 91 yards for a TD on mainly passing plays. Was glad Coughlin didn't bring them back out for the 3rd quarter. Let them Costanza it - leave on a high note. Geoff Schwartz dislocated a toe so that's certainly not a good thing with an already thin line. He'll likely be out a couple of weeks. Hopefully Beckham finally gets into a game the last week of preseason, I'd feel better about him if I could actually see him play.

Ryan Nassib has played great the last 2 games, yes primarily against backups and third stringers, but I think he's certainly played well enough to warrant being the only backup QB. A 3rd QB is a waste of a roster space in today's NFL. You're probably screwed if your starter gets knocked out for a long time, and regardless there is never a shortage of veteran QBs on the market to bring in as an extra backup later on if needed.

And Corey Washington with his 4th TD in as many games. His 53-man roster spot has to be secure by now, the only question is whether or not Coughlin will give him any sort of playing time in the regular season.</font>

Vito, the Giants need to threaten to fire Coughlin again. They'll likely win another Super Bowl.

Loving what I am seeing from Bortles though. He'll be the starter by game 3 at least. Henne just isn't a good starter. Manageable backup at best, but starter, no.

Just wait until week 2 or 3 where he has a bad couple of series' drives, and the team panics and let Manziel come in to "save the day". ESPN will have the QB controversy they clamor for. The allure of instant jersey/merch sales and knee-jerk fan pacification will trump a long range plan of trying to build a winning franchise.

<font color=goldenrod>Matt Prater suspended 4 games. And Wes Welker concussed again.</font>

Prater's suspension is weird. Official word is coming down tomorrow.

Won't be surprised if Welker doesn't make it through the entire season. This is getting out of hand now.

<font color=goldenrod>Sam Bradford out for the year. Torn ACL.</font>

Rams didn't have much of a chance in that division anyway, but Shaun Hill as the QB is going to make it worse

Heh. Could have sworn that the headline this morning was "Sam Bradford's ACL was fine". Or something of the like.

Wonder what SammyG is thinking right about now?

That is what 3 or 4 times within a year for Welker now?

Had a bunch of concussion problems and scares while he was on the Pats as well.

Yeah. Me thinks he needs some extra padding in that helmet of his. Or he's gonna be the poster boy the concussion issue NFL is dealing with right now.

Brees and the first teamers looked really good last night. The only time the Colts threatened was when Hasselbeck came in. Defense had Luck shook like a mother fucker.

<font color=goldenrod>I didn't think they'd win the division, but I figured they'd at least be in the mix for a wild card. Now there's probably like a 100% chance they finish last in division.

Jameis Winston should start shopping for crab legs in St. Louis.</font>

That means you thought they'd be 2nd in the division.

<font color=goldenrod>Not really. "In the mix" means they're in the hunt late in the season. I figured Seattle and San Francisco were playoff locks but if any division could produce 3 playoff teams, it's the NFC West. If you were to tell me Arizona or St. Louis would be the 2nd wild card I wouldn't have been surprised.

Arizona is still in play but I'm willing to rule St. Louis out now after the Bradford injury.</font>

So you like the whole West to go to the playoffs

<font color=goldenrod>75% of the West, yes</font>

ESPN Boston seems to think Stevan Ridley won't even make the 53-man roster.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england-...ected-roster-6

wat

Richie Incognito going for a tryout with the Bucs. Ridiculous that he's still unsigned. As if he's the only mean person in the NFL.

Never really cared for Richie Incognito. Nothing really to do with this whole bullying thing, but I watched him a couple of times with the Rams, and he really seemed like a less than medicore player..then he tried to hit some dude with his helmet. I mean I know the Bills and Dolphins struggled for depth and talent while he was there, but he never struck me as someone worth the hassle he always brings.

Yeah he's kind of a shitbag, but he's graded out positively the past few seasons and definitely would help out teams that are hurting on the line

I'm 99% confident that 1 of the NFC Wild Cards is from the west but it'd be very hard for two.

Really doubt he's actually getting cut and their issue with Ridley's low carries is probably Belichick wanting to see more of the other RBs not named Vereen than anything special.

According to NFL rules, NFL can also suspend them but wouldn't take effect till next season if the Steelers punish them first.

Bowman on PUP

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300..._atl_wesseling

Mixed feelings on that trade. Rather have kept Mankins for the O-line protection but TE spot has been a bigger issue ever since Aaron Hernandez got arrested.

great trade for Bucs IMO

<font color=goldenrod>Whoa. I figured Mankins was a Foxboro lifer.</font>

@Vito, Giants traded some kicker (Brandon McManus) to Broncos for a conditional 7th

<font color=goldenrod>That's pretty sweet. McManus looked really good in preseason but there was no way in hell Coughlin was going to turn the kicking job over to a rookie unless Josh Brown had an awful preseason, which he didn't. So the Giants basically got something for a guy who was gonna otherwise be cut.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>So apparently the condition in the conditional 7th rounder the Broncos gave the Giants for McManus is that the Giants only get the pick if McManus is on Denver's roster after week 5. Seeing as that's when Prater returns from suspension, they almost certainly will release McManus after 4 games and not give up anything.

That makes sense really. Teams are increasingly reluctant to trade draft picks for good players, so a draft pick for an undrafted kicker seemed a bit odd.</font>

Ahh yeah that makes sense, still though if Prater has a setback and McManus is kicking well enough, they could keep him around an extra couple weeks if necessary. Doubtful, but if there's no attractive FAs... who knows.

Really can't lose either way I guess


I always thought the terms "condition _th round pick" meant, say in this case it was a 7th that could escalate, but makes sense this way too

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah basically the only way the Broncos wouldn't bring Prater back week 5 is if he gets hurt or something.

Supposedly the Eagles were going to claim McManus cause they've had kicking issues in preseason, so the Giants were really just playing keep-away. Smart.</font>

Henery has looked bad this preseason. Eagles just traded for some scrub kicker from the Colts last week too

Henery has looked bad for a while.

I remember I was super hyped about him for fantasy purposes when he was drafted. Thankfully, LEGATRON set me straight

Ray Rice is laughing his ass off about Josh Gordon while beating the shit out of his girlfriend right now.

*wife

This fact makes it okay to some "people"

Sucks about Gordon, though. He.was fun to watch last year (even though lolBrowns)

It's okay, Johnny Football will go through his growing pains this year and be an NFL-caliber QB for Gordon next season. Browns will be unstoppable.

(jk lolcleveland)

Bortles > Bridgewater > Manziel

Allan Hurns is also a beast. Fuck Justin Blackmon. We've got Allan Hurns!

Don't think weed should be that big of a deal, but he also had a DUI too.

So here are my predictions

AFC
East
Patriots
Bills
Dolphins
Jets

North
Ravens
Bengals
Steelers
Browns

South
Colts
Titans
Jaguars
Texans

West
Broncos
Chargers
Chiefs
Raiders

Wild Cards
Bengals & Chargers

NFC

East
Eagles
Giants
Cowboys
Redskins

South
Saints
Panthers
Falcons
Buccaneers

North
Packers
Bears
Lions
Vikings

West
Seahawks
Cardinals
49ers
Rams

Wild Cards
Cardinals & Bears

I've yet to make any 'official' (i.e. financially-backed) predictions yet but those look pretty good. I still think the NFC East is a crapshoot though.

Any particular reason you're down on the 49ers this year?

Gordon wants to play in the CFL this year, but CFL rules don't allow players under NFL contract to play. The Browns would have to cut him in order for this to happen, which is not gonna happen.

<font color=goldenrod>I think a lot of people are down on the Niners because of how bad the offense has looked in the preseason. I dunno though. I think they'll be good enough to get the 5 seed. Preseason is like 97% meaningless as far as evaluation of performance is concerned. Only time it may actually matter is when a team is rolling out a brand new scheme.

Actually that's the reason I'm going into the season with tempered expectations. Except for one drive the Giants offense has looked lost. I do think they'll finally hit their stride a few weeks into the season, but the easiest part of their schedule is early on. Hoping they don't give away games they should win since the second half will be brutal.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>Also I really wish Coughlin would sit his starters tonight. He said they'll get 15-18 snaps. Why bother? It's not enough of a sample size to mean anything and it's just risking injury. They can't afford anyone else getting hurt.</font>

Basing anything off the preseason is a very poor way to evaluate things. It literally means nothing. Even if the starters are playing deep into games (3rd/4th week), the coaches are playing things close to the vest to not give away schemes etc. I just don't see how the 49ers, arguably a better team than Seattle even last year, are being disregarded because of a couple of dress rehearsals.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah it's crazy. The Niners will be very good. I thought long and hard about making them my NFC rep for the Super Bowl, actually. Wouldn't surprise me at all.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>I'll throw my quick predictions in:

AFC East
Patriots
Jets
Dolphins
Bills

AFC North
Ravens
Steelers (Wild Card 2)
Bengals
Browns

AFC South
Colts
Texans
Titans
Jaguars

AFC West
Broncos
Chargers (Wild Card 1)
Chiefs
Raiders

Pats, Colts, and Broncos would all seem to be safe bets. I think the AFC North will be strong, the Ravens just barely missed out last year. I see 2 teams emerging from that division. Despite having them missing the playoffs I don't think the Bengals will be awful, but every year a team everybody thinks will be really good ends up being a bit worse than expected and for some reason I think it'll be them. It might be my total lack of faith in Andy Dalton. Honorable mention: seriously considered the Jets for the 2nd WC, I think they'll actually be pretty good. I like their defense and think Chris Johnson will be a nice boost to their offense.

NFC East
Eagles
Giants
Cowboys
Redskins

NFC North
Packers
Bears (Wild Card 2)
Lions
Vikings

NFC South
Saints
Falcons
Panthers
Buccaneers

NFC West
Seahawks
49ers (Wild Card 1)
Cardinals
Rams

The East is wide open, any team can win. Just went with the Eagles since they're the "known" commodity but if they fell apart it wouldn't surprise me. The North should be tight, the Lions are impossible to forecast. Locked in on the Saints for the South, Panthers will come back down to Earth. Only have the Cardinals not getting the 2nd Wild Card because the division will beat the shit out of each other all year. Despite the brutal schedule Seahawks should get 6 or 7 home wins before even looking at the road games, so that pushes them to the top of the division.

Super Bowl: Seahawks over Colts. I don't think I've ever predicted a repeat winner before, it's not easy to do. But if they get homefield through the playoffs it'll be a huge boost for them...and they just have insane depth.</font>

The 49ers are going to valiantly defeat the Seahawks in the playoffs. Nobody worry.

NFL passes new punishment rules for domestic abuse cases. 1st offense is a 6 game suspension while a second offense is a lifetime ban.

Making things interesting is the new rules allow the 1st penalty to be longer if the player has any past history with domestic abuse, hits a pregnant woman, or does it in front of a child. Players can also request for reinstatement after a year for the second offense but NFL hinted its not going to work.

Wow. Good for them, hope they stick to their guns.

I wonder if the penalty applies to Michael Sam if he beats up his boyfriend.

Such a fucking stupid post you just made, Droford.

<font color=goldenrod>Peyton Manning fined $8,268 for yelling at DJ Swearinger in the last preseason game.

1) That's an oddly specific number.
2) Good. It was a perfectly clean hit and that Welker got concussed is pretty much 100% on Peyton anyway. I've never seen a QB throw down the middle into heavy traffic more than him. Austin Collie says hello.</font>

OK, better question: Does the penalty still count if an NFL player beats up a stripper at a strip club?

That's not domestic violence.

Droford I am going to the game. I'll take to take pictures of Flacco's bum for you

going to be a lousy game even with backups considering they play again there on MNF in November

I did take the Ravens +3.5 though, cause of the .5 pt hook

Panthers have a RB named Fozzy Whittaker. Also have Jericho Cotchery. These are the little things that amuse me.

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:lol:

Lol we are going to slowly rip drew breezes heart from his mouth

And last time I checked the Ravens are #Wenning lmao

NFL players better not marry any crazy chicks now. They could hurt themselves and blame it on the player and get them kicked out of the league.

I think that "risk" is far outweighed by the benefits of having a ruling like this in place.

Redskins want a new stadium, but something tells me it won't get built anywhere near Washington DC unless there's a name change or Snyder pays for the whole thing. Which is probably OK since its entirely stupid to be talking about replacing 17 year old football stadiums even if they are dumps #fedexisadump

It might sound crazy. But I think instead of a new one he'd be better off remodeling rfk stadium. The history theres good, and no rings since they left it.

He wants a dome so they can host the Super Bowl.

So just add a roof #lincolnlogs

If thats the case Im hoping your right about it not being in Washington. But only due to the fact that a lot of people would be out of a home, like when they built Nationals Park.

People still watch the NFL? #Prayers

Oh man, you're such a controversial poster in 2014!

If i had no talent or no athletic ability, i'd go join the NFL

The idea of a Super Bowl around here with the way the traffic already is comparable to ancient road designs, is frightening.

Also the idea of the Redskins playing in a dome makes me very sad. Outdoor football in the weather is the best, especially for a team that used to make such a big deal out of being such a rough and tough team like the Skins.

Exactly, at this rate every teams going to want one. And we have enough visitors as it is.