Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5636622)

Is their deal with the NWA just dead cause of the whole cocaine fiasco?

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5636674)

They did something similar to CM Punk right?

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5636705)

Ric Flair being signed by AEW seems like the final straw for a lot of people.

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5636714)

You won’t even be able to put Flair out of mind for an entire show.

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5636845)

Remember when JR turned heel and had his own announce table made in front of Coles?

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5637035)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great Khali, is still the most graceful man in the business. <a href="https://t.co/1jva7qnH84">pic.twitter.com/1jva7qnH84</a></p>&mdash; IANdrew Dice Clay (@IANdrewDiceClay) <a href="https://twitter.com/IANdrewDiceClay/status/1723497966042783944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by M-A-G (Post 5637081)

MAH GAWD, IS HE TRYING TO KILL HIM?!?!? :eek:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5637184)

Logan Paul vs LA Knight could be a good dynamic.

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5637186)

We’re in a crazy world where that actually sounds like a good pairing with a decent payoff.

Originally Posted by Savio (Post 5637237)

Uhh not sure why it's auto playing

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5637475)

WWE is taking Backlash to France in early May.

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5637637)

:lol: WWE sent Becky Lynch on to Celebrity Jeopardy where she got brutally murdered by Macaulay Culkin and Rachel Dratch.

Becky apparently only got 2 questions right through three rounds (and got them both in the last round), and entered Final Jeopardy with only $500. She did get Final Jeopardy right though, and doubled her total.

But she did bump the ratings in the demo

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5637843)

Dunno, but I'm hearing she set the record for worst contestant ever

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5637625)

Thought those luggage bags were that dude's pants for a second...

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5638031)

I remember saying, maybe not here, but a lot of the folks WWE express "interest" in is either false info fed to dirt sheets to get Snowman to overpay or false info fed to dirt sheets by Tony himself.

Why do I mention this? Because a name that was not brought up in these sheets was Madi Wrenkowski, who just signed to WWE.

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5638031)

I remember saying, maybe not here, but a lot of the folks WWE express "interest" in is either false info fed to dirt sheets to get Snowman to overpay or false info fed to dirt sheets by Tony himself.

Why do I mention this? Because a name that was not brought up in these sheets was Madi Wrenkowski, who just signed to WWE.

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5638026)

Insane to think we’re only 3 days away from CM Punk returning.

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5638099)

Who?

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5638100)

I think we get Cult of Personality play and it’s Grayson Waller that comes out to major heat.

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5638099)

Who?

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5638178)

I remember having the Survivor Series 94 VHS as a youngling and absolutely loving and being intrigued by Bob Backlund.

It was only years later that I found out that he just lost the belt three days later in a few seconds to Diesel.

Originally Posted by Reddit

Despite having faced each other one-on-one around a hundred times, poor Randy Savage just could not get a break against Hulk Hogan.

In 1985, Savage signed with the World Wrestling Federation. He got a substantial push right out of the gate and started to be groomed as a top heel. Yet despite plowing through the undercard wrestlers as he was built up, Savage ran face-first into WWF Champion Hulk Hogan. Setting the tone for the entire rest of their careers, Savage repeatedly challenged Hogan for the title, but the Hulkster won all of their initial encounters by pinfall. Later in the year and into 1986 somebody realized that Savage needed to pick up some kind of victories, so the two began to trade wins. Hogan's wins were all by pinfall and Savage's wins were all by count-out.

In early 1986 Savage defeated Tito Santana to win the WWF Intercontinental Championship for the first and only time, holding it for over a year until Wrestlemania III. One would assume that this would mean a parting of the ways between the two champions, allowing them to go about their own business of defending the titles; unfortunately for Savage, he continued to lose to Hogan by pinfall on house shows and in dark matches through all of 1986, in 1987 in the lead up to a defense against Ricky Steamboat at Wrestlemania, and then continuing after his title loss for most of the rest of 1987.

Then in late 1987 an amazing thing happened, as the two biggest stars of the World Wrestling Federation - the seemingly-invincible Hulk Hogan and the man he'd been beating like a rented mule for two years in Randy Savage - joined forces to become the Mega Powers! Gone were the days of Hogan pinning Savage day in and day out, which paid off just a few months later as Savage won a tournament at 1988's Wrestlemania IV to finally become the WWF Champion, where all it took was facing an opponent other than Hogan.

Yet storm clouds were on the horizon, as the Mega Powers broke up in early 1989 after Hogan began to get entirely too chummy toward Savage's girlfriend Miss Elizabeth, endangered Elizabeth by demanding that she accompany him to the ring for his matches, eliminated Savage during the Royal Rumble, and abandoned Savage during a match to be beaten down by the Twin Towers. What a jerk. Obviously this boiled over into a feud and the Mega Powers exploded! at Wrestlemania V where Hogan won the WWF Championship by pinfall. Savage got a measure of revenge in the ensuing months, beating Hogan in half of their matches - by count out - though Savage predictably lost the other half by pinfall. This pattern continued all through 1989 and into 1990. Their rivalry in WWF ended in 1990 at The Main Event III, with Hogan yet again defeating Savage, this time in a steel cage match just to break up the monotony.

Savage and Hogan both separately made their way to World Championship Wrestling eventually, teaming together when they crossed paths again, until Hogan betrayed Savage to form the NWO. What a jerk. With Hogan now a heel and Savage a babyface, it was clearly time for The Macho Man to gain vengeance! Only he lost some more, instead. Savage challenged for now-Hollywood Hogan's WCW Championship at Halloween Havoc 1996 (Savage was pinned), Hogan challenged for Savage's WCW Championship on WCW NITRO episode 136 (Savage was pinned), and Hogan challenged for Savage's WCW Championship on WCW NITRO 199 (Savage was pinned). There were only three other singles matches between the pair in WCW, where Savage won against Hogan twice by disqualification and there was one no-contest, but at least Randy Savage was spared the humiliation of dozens of successive losses on house show tours. After WCW folded Hogan went back to what would shortly thereafter become WWE, while Savage poked his head into the upstart NWA-TNA briefly before retiring. They never faced each other again and Savage ended his career without ever having gotten a real win over his rival.

So there you have it. People talk about Hulk Hogan's backstage politicking, but there's really no better illustration than the fact that across fifteen years, two companies, and roughly a hundred singles matches, the one star that was equal to Hogan's fame in the wrestling business was never once allowed to pin him one-on-one.

(What a jerk.)

Originally Posted by M-A-G (Post 5638451)

Piper was in a similar situation.

Originally Posted by Superbrawl 7

Hollywood Hogan pinned Roddy Piper after Randy Savage interfered by breaking up a submission and giving Hogan brass knuckles to strike Piper with. Piper was originally awarded the decision by submission with a sleeper hold after Hogan failed to respond after having his arm raised three times, but referee Mark Curtis restarted the match after Hogan was ruled to have had his foot under the ropes. Hogan, however, clearly did not have his feet under the ropes when his hand fell the third time; Savage was supposed to pull Hogan under the ropes but did so too late.[2] Savage and Hogan then attacked Piper post-match, followed by Savage turning heel and joining the nWo.

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5638534)

I actually think Piper has more singles wins over Hogan than Hogan over Piper

Hogan never beat Piper in the WWF other than by DQ. They hardly wrestled each other actually. People always talk about their "feud" but it really wasn't much of a feud.

Piper beat Hogan a couple times in WCW. Actually, has Hogan ever beaten Piper by pinfall or submission in a singles match?

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5638540)

Looked that up yesterday but forgot...



also at one house show in 1984

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5638566)

When was the show? I wasn't aware that they even faced each other until The War to Settle the Score in 85