Yeah, I'm prob gonna order the big compilations when they "go on sale" soon on Black Friday or Boxing Day or whatever

Definitely was hard to put down....

Infamous Iron Man is really fucking good.

What makes him Infamous

Rape

He's Doctor Doom.

Why do villains keep becoming the heroes?

because they keep on feeling they have to come up with with something "original" rather than good. Not to mention that in todays MArvel and DC there is very little difference between the two at time aside from perhaps motivation.

I personally enjoyed the old days where continuity errors were fixed with a * see issue XX or this takes place between XX and XX or errors like minor costume differences were just ignored . Now everything has to be explained and everything suffers from Clairmontitis ( 5+ year plot points that might get remembered ) that just has to be resolved. HAte 20 part stories and shit that carries on between 10 books over 6 months.

TDLR: Get off my Lawn!!!!

I think it was mainly a 90's marketing thing. "People love this villain. Let's make him an anti-hero and give him a mini series. We'll make bank!"

Feel like now, it's done more to tell a story and evolve the character.

In Doom's case, he became god of everything and yet it did nothing to fulfill him, so he has had an epiphany and come to the realization that maybe trying to better the world will satisfy him.

So he's not doing it for completely selfless reasons. And he's still egotistical Doom. He's not all of a sudden humble. He still arrogantly believes he is the one to save the world.

Honestly, I would rather they use their creativity and try something new with a character and possibly strike out, than do same old, same old despite the fact that it works.

Especially characters like Doom that have been around for half a century.

Jude Law ---> Captain Mar-Vel

Nice.

So they need to do a Sherlock Holmes thing.

Has there ever been an active MCU actor who's also an active DCEU actor? If not, do you think there's a clause like between pro-wrestling promotions?

These thoughts are prefacing a thread I'm gonna do (haven't done a comic scenario thread in years).

Their contracts are with the parent studios. Its not dc but warner/sony/fox/etc

From a recent interview: https://screenrant.com/mcu-phase-4-movies-characters/


Any guesses what they could be?

Captain Marvel, Ant-Man and The Wasp, 4th Avengers, 3rd Guardians, etc.

Also, they wanted to buy rights to X-Men, Fantastic Four. Held negotiations this month, didn't make it public how those ended.

Or if they've ended.

Nah, that part they actually said. They ended alright.

Perhaps a soft reboot after all. Guardians 3, Spidey 2, and Strange 2 are a lock. But the trinity of Cap, IM, and Thor is likely done. Avengers 5 will look way different.

BTW if no one has mentioned it, they are currently developing a Multiple Man film that may or may not be rated R and stars James Franco as Jamie Madrox.

I'm 70% certain Disney is trying to lock X-Men and Fantastic Four for Phase 5. I think they're as aware of needing a new macro arc as I was concerned about.

They NEED those FF villains.

Can't think of anyone that would be better than Doom, Galactus, etc. for the next Avengers films

Kang gets no love...

A big time travel arc couldmbe great

Also secret invasion and tne skrulls

Would actually use Kang as the villain in FF.

Kree vs Skrull war would be cool.

The talks died down then suddenly started back up again - after the Infinity War trailer. Almost like, "Listen, bub, you see what we're capable of. What say you let us play with some of your toys, eh?" Or something.

But yeah they have very little in the way of macro arc/crossover event villains once Thanos finishes his good work. Unless they wanna boost Dr Octopus into an Avengers level threat. Also consider Inhumans is their worst MCU effort and the actually good Inhuman characters will fade away when Agents is done - and they were groomed as Marvel Studios mutant surrogates for years.

They have to start feeling the pressure of not having the X-Men, FF, and the villains they have.

lol where do you get dr. Octopus from?

I'm just sayin if they don't lock down mutants and FF, they're gonna have to embellish the threat level of other villains. Norman can get away with being a crossover villain, especially since Seige would work nicely in the MCU. But then what? Zemo breaks out and goes full supervillain? They're running thin. On Earth anyway. Cosmic sector still has a lot of juice, but even then we all would love to see Silver Surfer appear in a Guardians movie.

I mean they're running thin, yeah, but they still have better options than Doc Ock.

Korvac
Return of Zemo with a full Masters of Evil squad

Could also do a lot with The Sentry

Secondary villains in Taskmaster and Super Adaptoid.

Regardless, it all looks much brighter with the X-Men and FF licenses.

I kinda sorta much rather see Taskmaster in a Deadpool movie, tbh. Their short bromance in the comics was fun.

What abou TAskmaster in a Captain America movie

Problem is MCU doesnt tell antag stories. At the crux theyre about the protags so the villain rarely matters...

I feel somewhat vindicated for not assuming the talks died down.

They had but I think it was a power play by one of the sides. Fox most likely as they started talks with universal briefly before going back to talks with Disney.

Their may not be forth movies for the OG trinity. It'll probably be stuff like Stark in Homecoming from now on.

Marvel coming after the previously ignored girl power animation market DC pre-empted with their super hero girls franchise years ago. DC simply has a better handle on even their most daring animation concepts, while Marvel's cartoons hit a slump since the Disney acquisition.

Let them fight.

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Potential huge news coming this week in regard to the MCU.

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Animation looks "beautiful"

Seems jerky in some places but an overall nice aesthetic. Getting a lil cringy with the 'rap for black hero trailers', tho. Not so much that it's rap as I don't like their go-to guy. I keep saying they should have the Rza do this shit.

I can't wait for this.

Someone explain this X-Men comic spoiler I just read to me

They established quite a while back that the x-men ripped from the past were from an alternate universe, albeit a very similar one to the main universe. Thus, they can die without affecting the timeline.

Battle of the Atom would not have been pants on head retarded if they had said that beforehand.

Oh, ok.

It's going down fellas.

I saw. I came. Then I saw and came again.

52.8 bilion before debt 66 billion total.


Not bad. Anti trust question are gonna pop up before this goes threw and theyre valid...

Simpsons called this in an episode Easter egg shot.

Comic books, Marvel, and DC are for faggots.

You want a super hero? Fuck comics man. Give me some John Wick, Jack Reacher, and Bryan Mills. None of this pussy ass Marvel shit.

Oh man i am so mad now owen


Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr @ u

my jimmies!

What's there to be mad about?

Buncha fucken 30 year old men reading comic books and being fans of marvel.

Do whatever makes ya happy just don't expect to be getting pussy anytime soon.

Any guy who needs to follow a bunch of made up rules on what to like and not like to justify his manhood, is a beta male cuck who doesn't have the confidence to buck "bro man" trends.

I mean you're probably just a sock, so whatever, but I think that needs to be said now and again anyway, lest people start buying into that bullshit.

lol yeah ok bud.

Keep reading your comics ya little man-child fag.

Don't let me get in the way.

Oh man I'm really getting mad now!!!! How dare he!!!111!1!1! One one one one

No one actually thinks that man. I think guy who like "nerdy things" that don't get laid think that they can't get laid because of nerdy things but it isnt. Its a joke of a thought process.

Look at it objectively. They're the most profitable brands on the planet. Do the math. If it were true the human race would go extinct.

It's getting more rare, but I've definitely met some dudes with that thought process over the years. Every single one of them was trying too hard to get over at whatever social gathering I was at too.

Maybe proto marvel is what killed the dinosaurs

Sock or not, reading comics is probably still more respectable than joining a message board just to berate other people without provocation.

probably Heyman

Didn't they say something similar with the first film as well?

People thought Disney wouldn't allow an R rated film or meddle in its production because of their ownership in Marvel and instead neither happened.

Finished the Defenders. Didn't watch LukeCage or Iron Fist. But thoroughly enjoyed this. Particularly the end.

Started the Punisher. One episode in and I'm hooked.

According to Variety, Black Panther broke the Marvel film record for most pre-sale tickets sold in 24 hours. Previous record was Captain America: Civil War.

Probably will only hold the record for a couple of months since Avengers: Infinity War is currently the most anticipated film of this year.

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/bl...rd-1202659579/

Black Widow is getting her movie. Currently in script phase, with ScarJo allowed some creative control. Could be in time for Phase 4 if the story is put together fast enough. Variety noted that the movie could be a prequel, post-Infinity War, or even in between past Avengers movies - so this news isn't confirmation of her survival in Avengers.

Also recall the actresses of the MCU half-jokenly cornered Feige demanding an all female MCU movie (perhaps they're not aware, but it would essentially be close to an actual short lived all girls Avengers miniseries from a few years ago, so there's precedent). They could use a Black Widow film to highlight all the ladies of the MCU, but that's my own thoughts.

Speaking of the girls; Tessa Thompson's alcoholic both ways swingin Valkyrie has been immortalized with an official Marvel Comics adaptation. She joins a new incarnation of the Exiles, who tends to be a team of heroes from various alternate Marvel universes. Curiously, being that we have the white Val and there was an Ultimates version, where is she from? Is her world a comics version of the MCU? Hmm.

The Phase 4 movies so far are Guardians 3, Strange 2, Spidey 2. Black Widow could make 4 or 5 depending on the above factors. Chris Helmsworth has expressed wanting to continue this newer version of Thor in new movies, even though his contracts are up by Avengers 4 (though honestly RDJ's contract was done years ago but he has no issue returning for stuff like Spidey outside of Avengers). I personally doubt we'll see anybody go past a trilogy, short of a rebranding. Ant-Man is not 'Ant-Man 2' it's Ant-Man & The Wasp, for instance. So perhaps 'Thor & Jane: Gods of Thunder'?

Moreover with Thor, his roommate from that crazy short is getting a sequel on the Thor 3 DVD. Daryl is back. Also Thor, according to a few toys, may indeed

And as for the FANTASTIC FOUR:

Now that they have the FF license, I REALLY want Guardians 3 to be Annihilation.

According to reports, Marvel's Gambit film got delayed again till Summer 2019. Was previously expected to arrive February 2019 but another director recently dropped out and Fox studios wanting the film's tone to be changed into being a lot more comedic than before.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men...reason-a156965

So... Tom Holland may cameo in Venom....

So many questions now.

Was Venom not meant to be a part of the MCU?

No and isnt even with a cameo

Yeah Venom and that Silver Sable/Black Cat movie were specifically said to be Sony's lil pocket comic verse. But is Tim actually cameo's that would de facto confirm them as at least 'Extended MCU' media like the stream TV heroes. Kinda MCU, kinda not.

From what I've gathered the main villain in Venom will be Carnage. It sounds like they are using storylines where the symbiote starts spreading to other people and Eddie Brock has to stop it from spreading all over the world, but a handful of people still get infected.

I'm guessing the script is pretty great to attract Tom Hardy and Michelle Williams.

Marvel's Cloak & Dagger is finally set to premiere.

June 7th, 8 p.m. eastern on Freeform.

ScarJo's getting a cool 25mil* for the now greenlit Black Widow movie. While Cpt Marvel is gonna be billed as MCU's first female led film, Widow is their Wonder Woman killer.

*Misread as 35mil, is actually 25mil.

FUCKING YES!

Hopefully no aliens or any kind of "super" shit. SPY MOVIE.

I'm a total comic books nerd and I get laid all the time. Come at me, bitches!

I tend to get irritated when people don't know iconic comic book characters. "What do you mean WHO IS CAPTAIN AMERICA?"

Met a guy two years ago who claimed to not know Superman.

Black Widow is being fast tracked for 2020, making it a Phase 4 movie. Interested to see what this means for other dates, or how free Phase 4 was looking (per my theory that Marvel had jack shit for a macro-arc after Infinity War, hence their hastened acquisition of XM and FF).

Can't wait for Black Widow. While I'm not too fond of Johansson she is good in this role.

How is Widow a Wonder Woman killer?

That is an obvious lie. I get that someone might not know Captain America, but Superman? Come the fuck on.

I think maybe he knew of Superman, but said he had no idea what he looked like or anything about him. Which, again, seems like it has to be a blatant lie.

Showed him an image of Superman and he was all "Oh yeah, I think I remember maybe seeing that guy before"

Post from June 13, 2016

By making more money and supplanting the character as 'the' superheroine. This is how studios think.

Black Widow will never supplant Wonder Woman as "the" superheroine.

Obviously. But this is how studios think.

ABC rumored once again to have cancelled Marvel's Inhumans TV series. ABC hinting the official announcement will be made when the May sweeps list is released.

Also seems ABC had no Plan B when it came to comic-based shows since they have no other comic shows planned for this year.

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/01/...cancelled-ABC/

I am shocked by this news! Shocked!

Inhumans rebooted as this big race in the 616 was Marvel's near ten year contingency against Fox so Marvel Studios can have 'people with powers' in mainstream media. This is also why X-Men (with FF) were getting shafted in books, story arcs, and even merch for years (to this day for FF). X-Men got a resurgence a few years ago with tons of books and with them back home, I guarantee Marvel doesn't care about Inhumans failing as a show. Not anymore. Watch them get thrown back into obscurity in the books, something like Inhumans vs X-Men will not happen again. Like ever.

But they do need a new mainstream MCU show on ABC, not a streaming thing or r-rated thing. Agents may not return (though there's whispers of a chance) leaving a huge gap.

If it was up to me, I'd put FF in that slot. And reignite the #ItsAllConnected thing. Make them really interact with... Everybody.

This season of Agents of SHIELD has been pretty damn good.

I am a number of episodes behind, but yeah, been good.... I like this thing with taking the characters and putting them in a new setting.

There are 173 pages in this thread, so I'll apologise now if this has already been addressed.

I was looking on IMDB earlier and saw that there are 7 Marvel movies being released this year:

Black Panther
Avengers: Infinity War
Ant-Man and The Wasp
Untitled Deadpool Sequel
Spider-Man: Into The Spider-verse
Venom
X-Men: Dark Phoenix

Depending how long the Disney/Fox deal takes means we have at least 5 new MCU movies in 2018.

On the other side of the coin, DC has 2 movies coming out this year:

Teen Titans, Go! - to The Movies
Aquaman

TTG is a kids cartoon (and not a very good one at that) and the common perception of Aquaman is that he is a joke. Sure, Jason Mamoa looks good, but Aquaman doesn't have a good reputation, especially for casual fans.

To make matters worse, Aquaman is coming out 1 week after Spider-Man. Who thought THAT was a good idea?!

DC, this is why you are losing.

Warner Brothers has owned DC Comics since the 1960's. They could have had there cinematic universe up and running 50 years ago.

Marvel started their cinematic universe in 2008, when they didn't have full, if any, control over their big names. That's why they had to start with Iron Man. Disney bought Marvel the following year after Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk had already been out, while Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America and The Avengers had been anounced and were in at least pre-production.

I don't really have a major point here, it just boggles my mind that a company with 2 of the biggest icons in comic books history can't get their act together.

It's becoming overkill

3 MCU movies. Panther, Avengers, Bug People.

Miles is an animated thing, Venom is... murky, and Phoenix is filmed as a FoX-Men movie. As is Deadpool kinda sorta.