Fan is in SHAMBLES

lol Why would someone else need to ask me? Did you forget who has who on pretend ignore?

Ridiculous mistakes like that are a symptom of the HEATED DUNKED ON ROFLROFLROFL SHAMBLES.

Lord, I was born a shamblin' man

That post was ghostwritten by The Allman Brothers.

Lock Fraud

A couple of things pop into my head anytime I see Sapphire:

1) Mom was a huge Dusty fan, and a full figured woman (she wasn't a fireplug, but she wasn't a skinny girl, either... and she was always the biggest weight-wise of all her brothers and sisters up until near the end and particularly... eh... top-heavy; which I guess was genetic compensation for being the shortest of all her siblings), so seeing Sapphire dance around let her live vicariously.

2) I think of the one interview Cody and Dustin did on Jericho, where they were asked if they thought that the polka dot clothes and being paired with Sapphire "was a rib" (separate questions). The brothers disagreed with the ring gear, but thought Vince was trying to shit on their dad with that. Instead of giving him the commercially accepted standard of beauty in a valet being a tall blonde who would've been on the "eh" side of skinny, they thought they were "saddling" him with a plus-size black chick who was square in the average area of looks. But in particular, Cody's response: "I think [Sapphire] was [a rib] at first, but then she got over."

So, by not doing "Miss America", Vince unwittingly made an avatar for the everywoman because he got the idea to take the man down a few pegs.

I'm on the fence. It has all the potential to be wack-ass bullshit and stereotypes with eventually proven subpar talent, but then again, I thought the same thing about Cryme Tyme at first. They had enough personality to carry it off and not seem like something they were "saddled with".

With that said, I do wish they wouldn't keep doing that ALL THE TIME: just grouping minorities together just because. Or, if they add a white boy to Hit Row, it won't be because he fits in the picture - it will be "look at this wannabe" in full "comedic" effect. Doing something like adding Owen to The Nation and making it make actual sense would be too much like work for the writers.

American Alpha was one of those things, though... a combination of Vince being super horny to get Jason Jordan over very quickly as a breakout singles star and, at the same time, leading a company that constantly tries to foster a sporadic Tag Team division when he's assed to for a few weeks to months, then splitting teams that work and pairing two rando singles together with no plan for them as a team - not even a name.

I've said before that I think that whole "HHH lied to me" thing where people were unhappy with him making promises that didn't pan out that was going around awhile ago was because he rightfully assumed he'd be in charge of shit while Vince was playing with this revamped football league, and by the time he looked back at "his baby", all the NXT call-ups would be on the main roster, pushed, over, and selling merch in a "better to ask forgiveness than permission" move to where he might not have personally picked guys like Balor and such to be main-eventing, but the results would have been too popular to change. But the exact opposite happened. Vince folded the XFL - again - and barely had time to have that train leave the station before he started running it backwards to not only undo Hunter's plans, but erode the foundational groundwork for his plans. And then, with the whole NXT edict of "super young talent with zero wrestling experience" to become wrestlers in their wrestling program, fucking with all the call-ups for seemingly no reason, and leaning too heavy on Roman and Brock without trying to push too many other people into that echelon, it seemed like the writing was on the wall for career trajectories.

Nobody expected Vince's penis to change all that. Those guys weren't just going to sit by the phone expecting Hunter to call them a half year or so later, nor did they know they'd be so minimized in AEW. That's less of a shot at Keith Lee or Swerve (my personal hangup about Keith notwithstanding) than it is about AEW doing stupid shit and not thinking past their surprise debut moment.

I wish we got a triple threat match between Dusty Rhodes, Virgil and Akeem. Dusty and the two gimmicks created to mock him

Double J apparently gone from WWE after 3-4 months. Didn't say anything about being released though so maybe he just had a short term deal to work through SS.

Hadn’t he been working behind the scenes there for a couple years now or was he just on a legends deal?

He had left again if I recall and then signed on again this spring as like VP of live events or something like that.

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Ending of this gets me every time, like hes leaving this world heading into the next. One of the best vids they've ever done. :'(

Somebody ask Fan how much this makes him SIMMER :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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The Simmerian

So many questions to answer once somebody asks them.

Until then I will remain at a LOW HEAT THAT PRODUCES VERY FEW, IF ANY, BUBBLES SIMILAR TO THE TEMPERATURE ONE MIGHT POACH AN EGG AT.

Fightful has confirmed that Road Dogg has returned to WWE after begging Tony Khan for a job.

Lol. R-Truth is a future Hall of Famer.

Does that count as asking?

Never would have imagined back in 2001 that K-Kwik would still be around 21 years later. And that he'd still look the same age.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Always loved when Ray Traylor (in his many forms) would find unique ways to use the ropes to sell for a smaller wrestler without bumping. <a href="https://t.co/lFcdbyRA23">pic.twitter.com/lFcdbyRA23</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1562516456335900673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Black don't crack

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dungeon Training Match<br><br>TJ. Wilson vs. Harry Smith<br><br>October 2000 <a href="https://t.co/bIkk93wy4u">pic.twitter.com/bIkk93wy4u</a></p>&mdash; GrappleKlips (@GrappleKlips) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrappleKlips/status/1562521687702196225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

crazy

except dem feet tho. that's the exception.

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Probably the best induction speech to date, and the ending....:'(

So the extent of my current wrestling knowledge comes from "reels" and I just saw one where Seth Rollins eliminated him self from a match by jumping over the top rope which Cole then called a smart move

How come? What was the match? The was a black guy in a tank top. I am guessing he is a dominant force people are afraid of or he really has it out for Rollins?

Is seth champion and he wanted to keep himself fresh "for sunday"? Can someone explain the context to me?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chuck Palumbo was 6’7, 280 pounds, and doing stuff like this. <a href="https://t.co/HDtRcxnH67">pic.twitter.com/HDtRcxnH67</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1562847294466113536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Always enjoyed Chuck Palumbo's matches

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Man. This really makes Britain’s contribution to pro wrestling look underwhelming.

Ariel's list is just awful

Not enough Rollerball Rocko. And what of Les Thornton?

Seems like they googled a bunch of names for “honorable mentions” just to make the actual list seem legit.

I can't reasonably see anyone putting any of the "Honorable Mentions" below McGuinness or McIntyre. Also, the lack of Jim Breaks is disgusting. Dude had a barbaric looking finish and is one of the greatest heels I have ever seen footage of. Regal, Dynamite, Street, Finlay, Breaks in any order should be top 5.

Imagine leaving PAC and Will Ospreay off the list of greatest British wrestlers of all time even though they do really good flippy shit

Ignorant.

He probably got overshadowed by Sean O.Haire doing even more impressive stuff.

if you see a list of the best British wrestlers and Johnny Saint and Jimmy Breaks arent on the list just know they dont know shit about fuck

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Maybe link the reel?

How is Sheamus not on that list? I know he's not technically "British", but by their logic, is McIntyre?

And ditto for Jonny Saint, and I'd even go as far as to consider Robbie Brookside.

Sheamus is Irish. Ireland isn’t part of Great Britain.

McIntyre is Scottish. Scotland is part of Great Britain.

They’re not using some weird logic.

Oh ar' I see. My bad, I was thinking "UK" (which I'm not even sure which part of Ireland Sheamus is from), as opposed to British.

Meh.

He’s proper Irish. Like Finn Balor.

If we were talking UK wrestlers you could add in Finlay as he’s from Northern Ireland which is part of the UK but not part of Britain.

It's all the same

All the same in that you are American, sir.

Gert wishes he was American.

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Huge difference between gentlemen Canadians and dirty Yanks!

As both a gentleman Canadian and a dirty yank, I am uniquely qualified to address this…

USA! USA! USA!

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Interesting....:wtf: About the first real "confirmation" of sorts i've seen of this. He heard it in the 90's before the post on the forum years back started doing the rounds that peaked people's interest.

The story seemed so insane to me when I was younger, but the older I get the more I’m like “of course, it’s not even that weird.” The rumor was always that Steph was underage, which is the creepy thing about it. Her 18th birthday would have been around the time of the WWF’s tour of Europe, around the time Savage finished up.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tito Santana takes a dive to the MSG floor so gnarly that Gorilla Monsoon almost slips into some insider jargon. Watch some 80’s Santana matches &amp; you’ll see why ring vets like him were beloved &amp; respected by northeast hardcore fans well into the 90’s indie years of their careers <a href="https://t.co/FOVrhqEShx">pic.twitter.com/FOVrhqEShx</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1563226957415821317?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’ve been thinking about the rumor that Santana was on a short list of guys to be the WWF Champion in 1992. When you consider what a worker he was, his potential appeal to certain demographics and all the steroid stuff, he wouldn’t have been the most insane choice in the world.

I find Tito to be very whiny on promos. Tito vs Valentine is probably the best IC Title in ring feud ever, but I find a giant chunk of his work outside of Valentine to be EXTREMELY dull. He's "one extreme or the other". For every amazing Islanders vs Strike Force match there's a dozen very dull Tito house show matches.

Perfect storm. Age of consent is somewhere between 14-16 in most European countries. Maybe it’s Randy that was the genius, not his brother.

Age of consent federally in US and Canada is 16 and in most states thats the case as well. In the early 90s the average was still 16 but many states were still at 15 since the federal age was lower at the time.

In other words this likely wouldnt be a crime now and very likely wasnt then either

Bring back the Swagger Soaring Eagle

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Sans Swagger

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Nobody equates Shiek and Slaughter with being great workers but fuckin hell could they go in their primes.

Big mark for the Slaughter cannon.

Slaughter was a great bumper.

I’m skeptical of whether Cena would be allowed to wrestle, because he’s probably got filming for Peacemaker coming up not too long after it, but I would love to see John Cena challenge Gunther for the IC Title at Survivor Series in the TD Garden.

To keep going on this, it doesn’t have to be one thing or the other either. I’ve seen people suggest that Vince was upset Savage took the Slim Jim deal to WCW. They could have compounded each other. Hell, Vince may not have been happy at how things turned out with Elizabeth.

It really wouldn’t be the strangest story in the world if a world famous celebrity had sex with the teenage daughter of his boss. It’s possible Vince wasn’t even upset it happened.

Looking up the age of Stephanie McMahon, the next generation of McMahons popped up. One of Shane’s sons is 18. Aurora is 18 in a couple of years. It will be interesting to see what happens in relation to them and WWE, if anything at all.

Are you asking which current superstar is going to be the Macho Man to Aurora’s Stephanie?

Not in today’s climate.

Best big man bumper I've ever seen

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I imagine that’s all in the back and how Abby balances his weight. It’s a bit like catching a fridge that leverage itself off your knees.

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His son does an armbar

And drugs

That was probably more interesting than anything Alberto has done in the past decade.

Ooh let’s compile this list

Slaughter
Boss Man
Yokozuna
Rikishi
Bam Bam

Who else

Gonna throw a shoutout to Abyss here

Bob Sapp when he gets punched in the kidneys sells really well

If Brock and Roman are considered big men then they’re easy inclusions

Foley was 300 pounds and bumped the way he did.

Just for the hell of it:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/1450b3ff...mddo3_400.gifv

Oh yeah Foley is obvious

Taker too

Taker didn't bump that much. Not that he didn't bump at all, I just wouldn't call him a bumper by trade.

That’s fair. He’s a great seller more than a great bumper.

I need to rethink my list. Mostly thinking of good sellers

Vic Grimes lol


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i think what was great about ECW was that it embraced scumbags. Like...no scumbag felt forced in ECW--they fit it like a glove and it was good tv.

lol good tv for the time, that is.

Well, not with that attitude!

"... but you already know that!"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">holy fucking shit look at this roid belly on EC3. <a href="https://t.co/ec5WB6uuuc">pic.twitter.com/ec5WB6uuuc</a></p>&mdash; Blue (@BlueArmBar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BlueArmBar/status/1564095665894035458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He’s got one thing going for him so he’s going to hit it and hit it and hit it until his heart explodes.

Brock is a tremendous seller. He can bump, but he doesn’t do it that often. But frequency doesn’t necessarily equate to the best. Brock is just great.

I hope Meiko Satomura wins the Women’s Championship at Worlds Collide and Mandy Rose goes up to the main roster as Alpha Academy’s female member.

I’d be happy with Tyler Bate becoming NXT Champion too. Bron Breakker can debut at the Survivor Series, even though it’s a couple of months out from WC. Maybe do a thing where Bron Breakker & Tyler Bate win the tag belts for a sneeze and eventually Bate beats Breakker to finish him up in NXT?

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Lol the Iron Sheik thinks that's impressive

EC3's roid gut is more cut than Adam Cole.

Roid guts are usually pretty cut. That’s what makes them roid guts.

Iron Sheik is the first person I think when I hear "roid gut". He looked pregnant.

Tatanka 2nd WWE run is the other

https://ringthedamnbell.files.wordpr...04/tatanka.jpg

More like FAT-anka, am I right?

... I'll show myself out.

No thats a roid belly. Specially HGH. Causes the internal organs to grow giving a very bloated stomach. There's a huge push in body building to bring back the vacuum pose to disincentivize it. Every major body builder in the last 15 years has had a shit looking core. Theyre muscular cores but they look awful.

Palumboism is the technical term

Palumboism is also the term for wrestlers who adapt from one promotion to another by adopting a gay gimmick.