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#1-norm-fan 08-05-2022 08:10 PM

Maybe we can all get it and smoke some in 2 weeks during the Crockett watch-along and ATTENDANCE WON’T GO UP LIKE THE CHALLENGER!

Mr. Nerfect 08-05-2022 08:56 PM

I also don’t care about Karrion Kross. Scarlet is good as the sexpot. WWE made her too sterile and theatrical. Just stick her with anyone and have deep throat phallic objects on air.

LibSuperstar 08-05-2022 09:50 PM

Not big on Kross either. He can talk I'll give him that much.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-06-2022 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5570183)
Ric Flair has his own weed now. I need Ric Flair weed.

To be the man, you gotta weed the man

Mr. Nerfect 08-06-2022 06:50 AM

Adam Pearce has announced a tournament to crown new Women’s Tag Champions starting on Raw. My prediction is that Kai & Sky take the tournament and are then attacked by Sasha & Naomi.

Mr. Nerfect 08-06-2022 06:52 AM

That could result in a tag team Ladder Match between them for the undisputed tag belts. Bayley can be caught in the middle.

slik 08-06-2022 11:15 AM

Sometimes HHH gives people big entrances but the characters aren't really developed beyond that.

Other times H lets their more subtle quirks shine through in the ring. I am genuinely curious though because it is something different than what we've had in a long time.

Mr. Nerfect 08-06-2022 12:22 PM

Triple H goes overboard with some entrances. Come on man, let them stand out. And that can’t be all there is to a person.

slik 08-06-2022 02:11 PM

WWE NIL wrestler arrested on sexual battery charges


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AJ Ferrari has been charged with sexual battery. A warrant is out for his arrest with bond set at $25,000.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OKState?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OKState</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ocollysports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ocollysports</a> <a href="https://t.co/4HQ6HvS5eG">https://t.co/4HQ6HvS5eG</a></p>&mdash; The O'Colly (@OColly) <a href="https://twitter.com/OColly/status/1554873562749579264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to the Payne County Sheriff’s Office website, AJ Ferrari was booked just over an hour ago. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OKState?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OKState</a> <a href="https://t.co/4mQ5ET2jCA">pic.twitter.com/4mQ5ET2jCA</a></p>&mdash; Adam Engel (@AdamEngel9) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamEngel9/status/1555034515424153601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">But answer this please: DID <a href="https://twitter.com/travismastro34?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@travismastro34</a> CLAP???? <a href="https://t.co/UR3ytbCkPd">pic.twitter.com/UR3ytbCkPd</a></p>&mdash; Wrastler (@Wrastling_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Wrastling_/status/1555610451567943682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 08-06-2022 02:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WHAT THE??? <a href="https://t.co/yb1GEh1Ixs">pic.twitter.com/yb1GEh1Ixs</a></p>&mdash; GrappleKlips (@GrappleKlips) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrappleKlips/status/1555729651149987840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lock Jaw 08-06-2022 02:46 PM

Damn. Bring that back please!

Supreme Olajuwon 08-06-2022 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5570133)
Wish more rasslers would use classical music, or remixes/inspiration of them....

I liked the few weeks in NXT where Billie Kay had this theme

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I remember some UFC fighter came out to Con Te Partiro and it was badass

xrodmuc316 08-06-2022 05:05 PM

I hope HHH brings back Billie Kay, she was killing it as a solo comedy character.

Bad News Gertner 08-06-2022 06:58 PM

Definitely never got Billie Kay

slik 08-06-2022 08:11 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 08-06-2022 08:46 PM

I remember I really pushed for WWE to sign Billie and Peyton. I ended up regretting that artistically almost as soon as it happened. All the best to them with their OnlyFans and whatever, but I don’t need to see them on wrestling TV.

Mr. Nerfect 08-06-2022 10:12 PM

I cannot wait for Timothy Thatcher vs. Oney Lorcan when Triple H hires both guys back.

#1-norm-fan 08-06-2022 10:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most of these nuggets of wisdom come from learning things the hard way ����█♂️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/changeordie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#changeordie</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mrbagwell?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mrbagwell</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RealDDP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealDDP</a> <a href="https://t.co/7cFG66y1kx">pic.twitter.com/7cFG66y1kx</a></p>&mdash; Marcus Bagwell �� (@Marcbuffbagwell) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcbuffbagwell/status/1555747536207478784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sepholio 08-06-2022 10:40 PM

LMAO I am now in love with Buff "The Stuff" Rogers.

#1-norm-fan 08-08-2022 12:05 PM

An update on the relationship between Bret Hart and Bill Goldberg

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today’s update from <a href="https://twitter.com/BretHart?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BretHart</a> himself. <a href="https://t.co/X9yi1fh95K">pic.twitter.com/X9yi1fh95K</a></p>&mdash; Does Bret Hart Like Bill Goldberg? (@GoldbergHart) <a href="https://twitter.com/GoldbergHart/status/1556374763320270848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sepholio 08-08-2022 12:08 PM

LOL. He got straight to the point.

slik 08-08-2022 03:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We are thrilled to announce our partnership with <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRock?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRock</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/SevenBucksProd?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SevenBucksProd</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/VICETV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VICETV</a> to bring you TALES FROM THE TERRITORIES. <br><br>Travel to the golden age of wrestling. Exhilarating tales of triumph &amp; perseverance told by the legends who lived them.<br><br>Premieres Oct 4 on VICETV <a href="https://t.co/RMSfl5d3xB">pic.twitter.com/RMSfl5d3xB</a></p>&mdash; Dark Side of the Ring (@DarkSideOfRing) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarkSideOfRing/status/1556722922886144002?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 08-08-2022 04:00 PM

That’s one step closer to The Rock getting back into wrestling.

Mr. Nerfect 08-08-2022 04:05 PM

Chavo is involved as an executive producer. This is not his first Rock project. It sounds like he’s in the fucking money right now.

Gerard 08-08-2022 05:14 PM

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Nash really is missing his other half badly. :(

slik 08-08-2022 06:21 PM

Per Fightful, HHH wants Dexter Lumis back as well

#1-norm-fan 08-08-2022 06:36 PM

I’m hearing with Vince out of the picture, HHH is in talks to bring Nailz back.

Fignuts 08-09-2022 12:41 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imagine if Arn &amp; Vader got a long tag team run together. <a href="https://t.co/7vMrxinTvy">pic.twitter.com/7vMrxinTvy</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1556828572014223360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Big Vic 08-09-2022 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5570760)
I’m hearing with Vince out of the picture, HHH is in talks to bring Nailz back.

I read that as "Nazis"

slik 08-09-2022 04:03 PM

From what I've gathered HHH *possibly* has plans to bring back all of the following:


SPOILER: show

Wyatt
Rowan
Strowman
Gargano
Candiace
Tegan Knox
Nash Carter



From what I've gathered Triple H *possibly* has plans to repackage the following to their former presentations

SPOILER: show

LA Knight
Pete Dunne
Robert 'Glorious' Roode
Dominik Dijakovic
Elias



From what I've gathered the following are expected to be called up from NXT in the draft in September

SPOILER: show

Roderick Strong
Toxic Attraction
Legado Del Fantasma
Xyon Quinn
Alba Fire
Indi Hartwell
Nikkita Lyons
Ilja Dragonuv



This is all from various twitter insiders so who knows the accuracy but interesting if true

drave 08-09-2022 04:05 PM

That's a pretty good list of folks to bring back.... mostly.

#1-norm-fan 08-09-2022 04:07 PM

Strong rumor going around now that Triple H is planning to bring back Braden Walker. Huge if true.

XL 08-09-2022 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5570881)
I read that as "Nazis"

Harris Brothers return confirmed.

XL 08-09-2022 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5570990)
Strong rumor going around now that Triple H is planning to bring back Braden Walker. Huge if true.

Are the dirtsheets reporting this? You know you can/can’t trust what they say depending on which side of the argument you’re on!

Mr. Nerfect 08-09-2022 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5570988)
That's a pretty good list of folks to bring back.... mostly.

Yeah, there are some misses there. No way they bring back Nash Carter.

Wyatt and Strowman were played out. Strowman isn’t very good. No one has missed him. Wyatt sold a bit of merch, but with a ridiculous gimmick. This is like bringing back Kane & Big Show if they had been gone and the product didn’t suffer.

I don’t miss guitar-strumming Elias at all. Ezekiel was an improvement.

Bad News Gertner 08-10-2022 10:07 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">30 years ago.<br><br>All of this. <a href="https://t.co/S5XhxOmzIo">pic.twitter.com/S5XhxOmzIo</a></p>&mdash; OVP - Retro Wrestling Podcast (@ovppodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/ovppodcast/status/1557340484950958080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Evil Vito 08-10-2022 10:10 AM

Sounds like Triple H might be giving some of the wrestlers their full names back as Angel and Humberto have re-added their last names to their Twitter profiles.

Jordan 08-10-2022 10:18 AM

Do you guys think Jeff Jarrett is gonna weasel his way to a Wrestlemania match? Probably against AJ right? It would be cool.

drave 08-10-2022 10:39 AM

He looks better and performs better than some folks who will have a match on that card..... so why not?


Ain't he great?

Jordan 08-10-2022 01:03 PM

He's amazing

Gerard 08-10-2022 01:13 PM

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Have this set to start at a certain part in the video, the story makes a great mental visual :rofl::rofl:


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And of course, the classic story thats always worth a listen.

Mr. Nerfect 08-10-2022 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5571138)
Sounds like Triple H might be giving some of the wrestlers their full names back as Angel and Humberto have re-added their last names to their Twitter profiles.

Some of them would make sense. Angel and Humberto are two that I imagined would get their name back. Matt Riddle is another. In time, when it makes sense for him to break away, Austin Theory is another.

Mr. Nerfect 08-10-2022 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5571139)
Do you guys think Jeff Jarrett is gonna weasel his way to a Wrestlemania match? Probably against AJ right? It would be cool.

I think AJ Styles will be wrestling Kenny Omega. I can see Jeff Jarrett worming his way into the Andre Battle Royal and even winning!

#1-norm-fan 08-10-2022 05:08 PM

Legendary wrestler and legit badass “Judo” Gene LeBell has passed away. Learned about him mostly through Corny’s podcast.

#1-norm-fan 08-10-2022 05:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump is the 2nd WWE Hall of Famer to be raided by the FBI. ������ <a href="https://t.co/aV2KCSjK0o">pic.twitter.com/aV2KCSjK0o</a></p>&mdash; Gerald BRISCO ��█♂️ (@Fgbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fgbrisco/status/1557169541561561089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Vastardikai 08-10-2022 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5571180)
Legendary wrestler and legit badass “Judo” Gene LeBell has passed away. Learned about him mostly through Corny’s podcast.

He was also the referee in the infamous Ali-Inoki match, as well as the winner of what is considered the first televised MMA match against Milo Savage. He was also a stuntman who worked with folks as varied as Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee, Ed O'Neill, Steve Martin, and Jackie Chan.

#1-norm-fan 08-10-2022 10:13 PM

Wait... Did Gene LeBell train Steve Martin for the karate scene in The Jerk???

#1-norm-fan 08-10-2022 10:18 PM

He was one of the guys he beat up! Crazy.

Bad News Gertner 08-10-2022 11:24 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meng could kick you in the jaw without putting in an effort. <a href="https://t.co/3jUO7YKJol">pic.twitter.com/3jUO7YKJol</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1557550525436026881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 08-11-2022 01:11 AM

I’ve said this in the Raw thread a couple of times, but it deserves to be said more generally: How good is Rey Mysterio? I knew the guy was still good, but if you don’t watch for a while and then see him fresh, he still hits you as amazing.

Danny Electric 08-11-2022 11:35 AM

Would be fun to watch Dragunov v Walter again.
DIY v Usos at Wrestlemania.

Gerard 08-11-2022 09:33 PM

https://i.imgur.com/0S9lKzq.jpg

Oh My! :eek:

https://i.imgur.com/QyMNUQy.jpg

A shirt made with a font to resemble cum....you just know Vince was pissing himself laughing at this.

Supreme Olajuwon 08-12-2022 07:41 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kevin Randleman excelled greatly as a Pro-Wrestler. For the little time he was doing it. 104 seconds of Kevin Randleman being a WRESTLING MACHINE - AJPW/Hustle (2002-2005) <a href="https://t.co/xIrI0gNMQX">pic.twitter.com/xIrI0gNMQX</a></p>&mdash; Dark Puroresu Flowsion (@PuroresuFlow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PuroresuFlow/status/1557786131558719488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dunno who this dude is but he’s got some insane hops

drave 08-12-2022 07:59 AM

He's Kevin Randleman

Jordan 08-12-2022 08:20 AM

Early UFC champion and Pride fighter.

#1-norm-fan 08-12-2022 11:07 AM

“Phil lololol”

xrodmuc316 08-12-2022 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5571535)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kevin Randleman excelled greatly as a Pro-Wrestler. For the little time he was doing it. 104 seconds of Kevin Randleman being a WRESTLING MACHINE - AJPW/Hustle (2002-2005) <a href="https://t.co/xIrI0gNMQX">pic.twitter.com/xIrI0gNMQX</a></p>&mdash; Dark Puroresu Flowsion (@PuroresuFlow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PuroresuFlow/status/1557786131558719488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dunno who this dude is but he’s got some insane hops

Wait, this dude is an accomplished MMA Fighter and can jump well enough to clear guardrails? Sounds like he wouldn't be a very good pro wrestler to me...

#1-norm-fan 08-12-2022 11:10 AM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/c9...4f44e9bb22.gif

Stu Hart 08-12-2022 12:01 PM

The greatest insult in the history of wrestling"

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#1-norm-fan 08-12-2022 06:23 PM

According to sources, we’re in for a BIG return tonight as Triple H has brought back Essa Rios. Not sure how reliable these sources are but word is, very!

Lock Jaw 08-12-2022 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5571558)

GOTCHA

Sepholio 08-12-2022 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5571616)
According to sources, we’re in for a BIG return tonight as Triple H has brought back Essa Rios. Not sure how reliable these sources are but word is, very!

WOOOO ESSA RIOS BAYBAY. I heard they may bring back Taka Michinoku to feud with him over a soon to be reintroduced light heavyweight title.

Mr. Nerfect 08-12-2022 07:34 PM

It’s time to bring back Axelmania.

Mr. Nerfect 08-12-2022 07:43 PM

What’s the finish for Clash at the Castle? I cannot see them simply having Drew lose in the UK. But it doesn’t seem right to take the belts off Roman. I’ve seen it suggested that Theory enters the match, cashes in, makes it a Triple Threat and Drew pins Theory to win the belts, which maybe becomes him winning one belt.

I dunno. I’m still thinking they might just have Drew win cleanly, have him reign for a couple of months and then go back to Reigns around Rumble time for whatever their plans are.

Lock Jaw 08-12-2022 09:46 PM

Reigns wins.

That's the finish.

xrodmuc316 08-12-2022 11:08 PM

CM FRAUD
 
The thing he has used to prop his career up, the "pipebomb", was fully approved by Vince McMahon and ghost written by Ed Koskey.

https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/ex...ahons-reaction



Turns out Phil didn't "FEDBAD" from the heart for all the Marks, he did it to get a raise and promotion. How ya feeling about your little MMA Failure dork bud now, hmmmmm?

Mr. Nerfect 08-12-2022 11:11 PM

Of course it was approved. Interesting to learn that Punk didn’t write it. Was definitely a fun promo at the time, but it was just a promo. I used to try and will Punk across the mattering line, but as talented as he is, the special around him is constructed by internet fans who rally against whatever is established at the time.

Mr. Nerfect 08-12-2022 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5571650)
Reigns wins.

That's the finish.

Maybe. They have set up Drew vs. Kross as a program after that.

Destor 08-12-2022 11:13 PM

Least post a time stamp..

weather vane 08-12-2022 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5571681)
Least post a time stamp..

Haha no shit.

xrodmuc316 08-12-2022 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5571681)
Least post a time stamp..

Quote:

Originally Posted by weather vane (Post 5571688)
Haha no shit.

Don't worry guys, I am sure there will be a staunch CM Phil defender who will watch the full video and decipher the inflection and tone to try to spin it in a way to make Phil look good. Just wait for that play by play recap :rofl:

#1-norm-fan 08-13-2022 12:53 AM

Time stamp might be a good idea just in case...

XL 08-13-2022 03:55 AM

Because I am the only truly impartial contributor here (and #2 Christian fan) I did the work. Talk on Punk starts at 39:57.

A) of course it was approved. The guy sat there for 5 minutes before the mic was cut
B) he says that Punk “worked with Ed Koskey” on it but that it came from Punk’s heart and brain. Not at all the same as having it ghost-written.
C) there was “real life feeling and realness” in the promo
D) Gerwitz says he’s sure there was stuff in there that was improvised on the spot

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-13-2022 08:27 AM

Basically nothing at all was revealed about the pipe bomb unless you’re a complete mark fuckwad like Noid or cumdorx.

xrodmuc316 08-13-2022 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5571711)
Because I am the only truly impartial contributor here (and #2 Christian fan) I did the work. Talk on Punk starts at 39:57.

A) of course it was approved. The guy sat there for 5 minutes before the mic was cut
B) he says that Punk “worked with Ed Koskey” on it but that it came from Punk’s heart and brain. Not at all the same as having it ghost-written.
C) there was “real life feeling and realness” in the promo
D) Gerwitz says he’s sure there was stuff in there that was improvised on the spot

"We had a version of it in front of us"
"We knew going in what it was going to be"

A.K.A. NOT a shoot, A.K.A. lying to everybody for 11 years, A.K.A. CM Fraud.

AEW is STILL to this day living off a kayfabe WWE storyline.

FEDBAD, held Punk back, no creative freedom, yet Punk has the same music, gear, logo, and storyline WWE "made" him do when they were stifling him 11 years ago???

Also just an FYI, a ghostwriter is hired to write literary or journalistic works, speeches, or other texts that are officially credited to another person as the author.

Koskey sat with Punk ahead of time, prepared an outline of the script, disseminated copies, got it approved, and likely timed it out with Vince and Dunn for when to do camera cuts for Cena or the fans reactions.

Taking Punk's statements and views and constructing them into the pipebomb, that is Ghostwritting.

xrodmuc316 08-13-2022 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5571718)
Basically nothing at all was revealed about the pipe bomb unless you’re a complete mark fuckwad like Noid or cumdorx.

Yeah nothing at all, other than it was not a shoot, so pretending it is 11 years later because it is the only character Punk can present, because otherwise he is just an old looking 170 pound guy who got his ass beat twice in UFC and has zero credibility, but yeah, nothing at all, but that :rofl:

Lock Jaw 08-13-2022 11:25 AM

Sounds like you are pretty upset to find out that rassling is fake and everything is pre-planned and pre-approved. Thoughts and prayers.

Lock Jaw 08-13-2022 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5571678)
I used to try and will Punk across the mattering line, but as talented as he is, the special around him is constructed by internet fans who rally against whatever is established at the time.

I genuinely enjoyed Punk back then and still look fondly back on it... but yeah, there was that element of being presented as "the alternative" that the internet fans latched onto and boosted him up. Kind of "apropos" that he ended up in AEW which is an entire company much of whose success is propagated by the same internet fans buying into "the alternative" and boosting it up.

xrodmuc316 08-13-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5571725)
Sounds like you are pretty upset to find out that rassling is fake and everything is pre-planned and pre-approved. Thoughts and prayers.

Actually the opposite, I am happy that there is further proof that Phil is a fraud :rofl:

Fignuts 08-13-2022 11:32 AM

CM Punk is one of the few left in this business that pay close attention to details and actually trys to ensure that everything he does makes sense.

His credibility obviously took a hit with the MMA stuff, but theres too few people like him for me to just write him off for that.

xrodmuc316 08-13-2022 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5571728)
CM Punk is one of the few left in this business that pay close attention to details and actually trys to ensure that everything he does makes sense.

His credibility obviously took a hit with the MMA stuff, but theres too few people like him for me to just write him off for that.

Come on Fig.

What part of him attempting and botching moves he could not do 10 years ago makes sense? What makes sense about a fragile old man with zero athletic ability trying a 3 foot stage dive and "shattering" his foot?

The only sensible thing Phil has done is facing a guy who is so bad at throwing strikes that it gives him a better chance of not getting injured again.

#1-norm-fan 08-13-2022 12:52 PM

FedBad PhilGood Dubbalos abound on this page. Oof!

Fignuts 08-13-2022 01:01 PM

What does any of that have to do with how he wrestles and puts together his matches?

xrodmuc316 08-13-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5571736)
What does any of that have to do with how he wrestles and puts together his matches?

Botches, you are defending him botching moves like a green as goose shit rookie.

He wrestles like a 170 pound broken down old man, but because he is doing it in the Dub, we are supposed to pretend it is good, why?

How he puts together matches lol, he puts matches together that have him, a broken down bum who is the worst UFC fighter of all time, puts together matches that he actually fucking wins, and that makes sense?!?!?

That in fact is the most nonsensical thing in all professional wrestling. So no, that means he makes no sense. He can beat up nobody in reality, yet he can single handedly beat up 5 JAS guys at once??? For fuck's sake :rofl:

Mr. Nerfect 08-13-2022 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5571726)
I genuinely enjoyed Punk back then and still look fondly back on it... but yeah, there was that element of being presented as "the alternative" that the internet fans latched onto and boosted him up. Kind of "apropos" that he ended up in AEW which is an entire company much of whose success is propagated by the same internet fans buying into "the alternative" and boosting it up.

He was a no-brainer they should have had from the start, but their approach pushed him towards WWE at first.

Mr. Nerfect 08-13-2022 02:20 PM

Punk’s not as athletic in the ring as he tries to be, hence the botches, but he is a good wrestler. He just doesn’t make you care as much as he thinks he does. And MMA didn’t help any aura he tries to project.

Lock Jaw 08-13-2022 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5571741)
He was a no-brainer they should have had from the start, but their approach pushed him towards WWE at first.

Feel like everyone has blocked it from their minds that he tried going back to WWE first but that they wouldn't give him the money he wanted.

Lock Jaw 08-13-2022 02:24 PM

Feel like if Ttiple H was in charge back then he would have definitely forked over the money and we would have had Punk back in WWE.

Mr. Nerfect 08-13-2022 02:34 PM

Triple H may have been more likely to smooth over the differences and ease tensions with Punk. But I think the issue with Punk is that he wants main event money and a main event spot that he very publicly never appreciated. I don’t know of a 5-time World Champion that has complained so much about a company giving him so little. Are you going to push that guy — who has never really drawn money and flopped in the UFC — ahead of cheaper, harder working, higher grossing talent with better attitudes?

It would take some concession on Punk’s part. Would he have been willing to come in, start at a certain position for a certain amount of money with growth over the later years of his contract? Maybe.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-13-2022 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5571724)
Yeah nothing at all, other than it was not a shoot, so pretending it is 11 years later because it is the only character Punk can present, because otherwise he is just an old looking 170 pound guy who got his ass beat twice in UFC and has zero credibility, but yeah, nothing at all, but that :rofl:

Who actually thought it was an actual shoot other than mark fuckwads like you?

xrodmuc316 08-13-2022 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5571745)
Feel like everyone has blocked it from their minds that he tried going back to WWE first but that they wouldn't give him the money he wanted.

Yet another reason he should not be celebrated. He publicly denigrated AEW for 2 and a half years while he was trying to get back into WWE.

He tried to go back to WWE, they said no. He tried to get in by getting that hosting gig with Fox, WWE said no again. Fox offered to pay his WWE contract with the only condition being that Punk be on Smackdown and not Raw, WWE said no yet again.

Then suddenly, AEW is "pro wrestling" and Punk is back! And guess what is back on the menu... FEDBAD! FEDBADing is his rallying cry, and the Cultist just eat it up.

Celebrate a guy who failed at everything he tried, MMA, Acting, Comic Books, Reality TV, and even including getting WWE to take him back. Celebrate a guy who didn't want anything to do with the Dub and talked all that shit. Celebrate a guy who is only there because he realized he can milk a bunch of money from a mark billionaire's son and get a big push despite it all.

Everything he says is bullshit, everything about him as a tough guy is bullshit, and luckily there is a niche audience that will see all that bullshit and lap it up as eagerly as Tiny Khan's nose does when presented cocaine.

Mr. Nerfect 08-13-2022 02:55 PM

There’s definitely a major disconnect between what live AEW audiences are feeling and what the general audience member does. AEW fans are losing their minds for Punk in the building and TV viewers are like “Really? This guy?”

One thing you have to admit about the guy is that he’s not afraid of failure.

xrodmuc316 08-13-2022 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5571754)
Who actually thought it was an actual shoot other than mark fuckwads like you?

What makes you think I thought it was real? Seriously, logically speaking, why would you think the person who is happy to bury the fraud as often as possible would be the one to believe? Where is your sense?

I am in fact gloating that there is an accounting on record of somebody in the know to show the "mark fuckwads" that thought it was real, that they have been praising the FED for a FEDBAD promo all these years.

This is not even surprising though, I did say that "I am sure there will be a staunch CM Phil defender", and while you took it in a bit of a different direction than I expected, you still jumped at the chance to defend a guy who himself never learned how to defend, despite years of training in MMA.

Mr. Nerfect 08-13-2022 03:56 PM

I’d say that no one thought the pipe-bomb was a shoot, but there are people who thought Adam Cole/Pat McAfee was a shoot.

Lock Jaw 08-13-2022 06:22 PM

To be fair, there are still people out there who believe all of wrestling is a shoot

Destor 08-13-2022 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5571728)
CM Punk is one of the few left in this business that pay close attention to details and actually trys to ensure that everything he does makes sense.

His credibility obviously took a hit with the MMA stuff, but theres too few people like him for me to just write him off for that.

He'd make a great writer/booker

#1-norm-fan 08-13-2022 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5571765)
no one thought the pipe-bomb was a shoot.

Edited it down to represent what Noid would say if he didn’t feel obligated to support xrod and pretend he’s smart.

Destor 08-13-2022 07:29 PM

Many people think, not thought, the pipe bomb was and is a shoot. Pretty sure we could easily dig up the weekly thread and reread those posts if we need some clarity

Mr. Nerfect 08-13-2022 07:50 PM

Yeah, it’s easy to put yourself in the shoes of someone who knows better, but there are plenty of people who see a slightly different presentation of something and think “that must be real.” People are not as hard to work as those who pretend kayfabe being dead means you don’t put any effort in think.

I mentioned Adam Cole/Pat McAfee. A lot of people thought Cole’s blow-up on McAfee’s podcast was legit.

Prevailing wisdom always suggested that Punk got approval for all the things he was going to say, but there are people who think he totally went off the cuff. There are people who still wonder what he was going to say about bullying like that wasn’t where the promo was scripted to be cut off.

I was intrigued by the idea of Ed Koskey coming up with the ideas, taking them to Punk, even scripting them out. Turns out he was just producing it like every segment. I don’t know of Punk to misrepresent that, but it would come as a surprise to quite a lot of people, even in the wrestling sphere. But I wouldn’t call it “fraud.” It was just a promo that stood out.

Mr. Nerfect 08-13-2022 07:54 PM

I’m trying to imagine what a CM Punk return would be like in a post-Vince world. Let’s say he gets sideways with TK because he doesn’t want to do a garbage style match with Moxley. Whatever. Where would he plug in?

I’m actually way more interested in him working NXT guys than most people on the main roster. Punk stealing The Diamond Mine from Roderick Strong could be a cute little angle, with Wade Barrett on commentary mentioning he did that to him too. Punk as NXT Champion. The gimmick would be the falsely gracious champion “grooming” the future. Eventually he brings in FTR to replace The Creeds. In 2024, if they can’t get him before then, MJF comes in as the necessary evil to dethrone Punk.


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