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Even though that fag still hasn't touched home plate
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The 2007 Rockies were such a fun story even if they were part of a trend.
2006 Tigers 2007 Rockies 2014 Royals 2015 Mets Feels like anytime a team that nobody expected to do anything that year makes a charge to the World Series, they always fall at the final hurdle with only the 2014 Royals being competitive in the Series itself. |
2005 White Sox won it though when they were expected to finish last. Jealous Frank? You should be.
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Why do I seem to remember the 2005 White Sox being expected to be decent only for them to then blow the expectations out of the water?
Oh and the 2008 Rays can be added to my list, too. They had never even been in the playoffs before that season. |
No idea but they were supposed to be terrible.
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Still wish the Royals would have lost last year. Mess them.
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Aaron Hill, Brad Ziegler, and now Drew Pomeranz.
Is half of the Boston roster on the DL? Or does Dombrowski got something big going on with all these trades. |
Probably just wanted to prevent pitching from derailing another season for the Red Sox. Also probably didn't need to make a deal for Hill but more infield depth is good.
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Love love love the trade. Espinoza is 18, sits mid to high 90s, and is already in single a with an mlb eta of 2019, when he'll be 21. The Padres turned light hitting Yonder Alonso into the #14 prospect in all of baseball.
Add to that the high upside arms they drafted, plus the kid they got for Fernando Rodney, and the future looks so much more bright. Meanwhile Dombrowski has traded Manny Margot, Javier Guerra, Logan Allen, Carlos Asuaje, and now Anderson Espinoza to the Padres in the last year. For a closer and a guy who's 27 having a career year. The Padres have absolutely fleeced Dombrowski and Boston in raiding their farm. Think I said the way back during the Kimbrel trade but this is Dombrowski's m.o. Trade the farm for veterans with no regard for the long term. We've seen the position it's put Detroit in and now he's starting to empty out the barrel in Boston. |
Used to live Yonder Alonso. Thought he has a Will Clark like bat.
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Thought he was gonna be Mark Grace 2.0. Just never developed even average power.
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wimp will never get 100 RBIs
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The more Boston sucks, the happier I get.
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You're doing it wrong then
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I like the move. They really needed somebody and they got a guy on a hot streak. Still would like to get another starter.
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I think Dombrowski makes one more move that's a bit more modest to shore up the 5th spot
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Wonder what Baltimore will do about their starting rotation issues.
Also wonder what the Jays plan to do. Easter arms race going to be crazy in the 2nd half. |
No need for a 5th starter. Rodriguez and Buchholz (yuckkk) can fill it just fine. Need a left fielder and a reliever really.
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They have a Hunter Harvey finally healthy. Wouldn't put it past them to shop him.
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Every team needs to get better in the AL East, Jays don't really need a starter, but they do need some insurance in the bullpen and a fringe starter turned into a longman to replace Floyd to eat innings should a starter happen to tank a game.... Jays could use Goins/Barney/Travis as bait for something big as they have lots of depth at 2B.
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That boat left the station
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Verifying the first half SUPERWIN total:
4/3: Francisco Liriano 4/6: Kenta Maeda 4/14: Jason Hammel 4/18: John Lackey 4/19: Jason Hammel (2) 4/22: Jeff Samardzija 5/1: Clayton Kershaw 5/3: Jake Arrieta 5/11: Noah Syndergaard 5/15: Jose Fernandez 5/15: Dan Straily 5/18: Travis Wood 5/21: Matt Cain 5/22: Madison Bumgarner 5/22: Jerad Eickoff 5/24: Jason Hammel (3) 5/24: Jake Odorizzi 6/2: Madison Bumgarner (2) 6/9: Jorge De La Rosa 6/11: Tanner Roark 6/18: Chris Hatcher 6/25: Drew Pomeranz 6/26: Anthony DeSclafani 7/3: Brandon McCarthy 7/7: Drew Pomeranz (2) 25. Very impressive. Shame Pomeranz left the NL. |
Blue Jays on a bit of a slide..
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They peaked too early last year. Should've reserved some of that momentum for 2016.
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Question - Zach Britton is 29/29 saves with a less than .70 ERA. In 1992 Dennis Eckersley had 51 saves with a 1.91 ERA and he won the AL Cy Young and MVP. In 2003 Eric Gagne was 55/55 saves with a 1.20 ERA when he won the NL Cy Young.
No chance Britton wins the MVP but I think he has a shot for a the Cy Young |
Absolutely not.
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The AL Cy Young contender as this point are slim enough I think he has a shot
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That's because you're a homer. Danny Salazar is having a Cy Young caliber year. Carlos Carasco is up there. Michel Fulmer. Rich Hill. Etc etc. It's not even close guy. Just stop.
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Funny You say that because You don't mention Chris Tillman either..who's having a better year than them all
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It's funny because he's not having a better year than any of them. He is perhaps in the conversation, but only because he's on a contending team and because he has an "oooohhh shiny" win-loss record.. But he's not significantly better, if at all, than any of them.
What's funnier is you think he is having a better year based on him being on your favorite team, but think a guy who was a terrible starter now turned one inning reliever is Cy Young worthy. In a minimum of 70 innings pitched, Tillman is not top 20 in pitcher WAR, according to Fangraphs. He's not in the top 20 in k9. Barely top 20 in ERA by 2/10 of a run Well out of the top 20 in fielding independent pitching (i.e., he's been lucky/blessed with a good defense). Not top 20 in k%. He's actually 50th in bb%. So exactly what is Tillman good at that would make you think he's actually Cy Young worthy? Besides wins and losses and the fact that he's happens to play in Baltimore? |
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Did you bother to read how that thing as developed? It's based on how they think the balloting is going to go based on previous voter tendencies. It's not a measure of who should be Cy Young award worthy, but rather, who might be based on how voters typically vote.
It's not the same as saying player a deserves it more than player b based on actual performance. |
That's the best indication of how things will go down though. It shows the stats the writers tend to look at as compared to all that Sabermatric junk (except for the victory bonus)
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Sabermetrics aren't everything. They're definitely useful in painting the entire picture and give you a little bit extra, but certainly not the be all end all. I do like WAR though, that's a pretty sweet stat that gives us a lot more than we used to get.
Hope Happ is going to be okay after getting smashed in the left forearm with a liner from Smolinski. He was dealing before that, even got to 2 outs in the 6th, Gibby took him out and Chavez came in and gave up both inherited runners. Fucking drives me nuts sometimes. Chavez is a good pitcher too with nice stuff, probably other than Osuna and Grilli, the most consistant arm this year. You literally have one out you need to get and you give up a game tying double to a pinch hitter hitting .250. Hopefully they pick up a decent bullpen arm. Going to watch the Jayce play Seattle on Saturday, probably be a good game. |
JA Happ number 6 on that list, Sanchez #8 and i don't see Cory Kluber anywhere lmfao
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The only sabermetric stats I used was WAR and FIP. Everything else are common stats. Like strikeout rates, walk rates, and earned run average. Even on a basic level there isn't a strong argument for Tillman, except his team record and pitcher WINZZ.
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FIP almost seems a tool to discredit guys. WAR is cool as shit BUT I think looking at someone's line offensive and defensively you can kind of just make up your own mind. If someone has 140 RBI I can safely assume he either socks a lot of dingers, mostly with runners on base, or he's really good at hitting with runners in scoring position. I don't think the RBI is that misleading. Someone has to be able to knock runs in, and hitting with runners in scoring position is invaluable.
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Twins fire GM Terry Ryan............again. It was his second go-around at the position. Was the GM from '94-2007.
And for bit of a funny/sad story. Indians tried to do everything to turn Yan Gomes' season around. Even taking a page out of the "Major League" book and sacrificing a fried chicken. Well, all that didn't work and he's on the DL for a separated shoulder. |
Former Cardinals scout that got busted for hacking the Astros players database a couple years ago ended up getting sent to jail for almost 4 years.
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Cubs starter Jason Hammel had to leave his last start before the All-Star break due to cramps in his right hand. That’s not good. The Cubs have a team doctor, though, and the team doctor told Hammel how to deal with that problem. Stretching? No. Potassium supplements? No.
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The Mets cannot fucking buy a hit with runners on base. It's incredibly difficult to watch. Asdrubal Cabrera is 0 for his last 28 with RISP. He and Granderson are both hitting over 100 points below their career averages with runners on. It's fucking baffling.
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Kevin Long has turned this Met lineup into a team of hackers. They either swing for the fences, try to work out a walk, or strike out/weakly pop out/GIDP trying to do one of those things. Any non-HR hit is by accident.
I don't even know if I can blame Long. It seems he's being directed to coach the team this way. It's Moneyball 101 - batting average is viewed as irrelevant, they never bunt runners over, they never ever steal (David Wright has 3 stolen bases and is still the team leader), and defense is viewed as largely unimportant. And of course ironically the one guy who was so bad defensively that even Sandy Alderson didn't want him ended up turning into the best hitter in baseball. Fucking hell what a nightmare. |
Murphy's got a bit of a swagger to him too. LOL and he made a great play during the all star game on defence.
Don't worry, when Eddie E goes to Boston, he'll be making the Jays pay for about 6 or 7 years. |
lol yeah. Murph was showboating after routine double plays in the last series in Queens...and it was so bad I reached the point where I wanted someone to plunk him just because pitching to him regularly wasn't working.
But then they did that Stand Up to Cancer thing and he wrote "Sandy Alderson" on his placard and it made me remember I can't totally hate him :( |
I know this question is late to the party, but how did Tim Lincecum lose his mojo?
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Lost his velocity. Once that happened his fastball was just a flat offering.
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Doesn't he also have some sort of serious medical condition which meant his career was going to get affected a lot sooner than normal?
Think his pitching style was meant to help overcome that issue but at the same time also means he'd have less quality time in his career as a trade-off. |
Yeah his hips don't lie. They have a degenerative condition.
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lol well it's friggin commendable that he's still PITCHING in the big leagues with a degenerative hip condition.
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Yep and its not like he hasn't had a Hall of Fame career already. 3 Time World Champ, 2 time Cy Young, 2 no hitters.
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Red Sox win! 1/2 game down in the ALE right now. Porcello Cy Young stock rising.
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Jays win too. Sanchez with another great game. Great to have a groundball pitcher, who can consistently garner groundballs and get out of jams with double plays.
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Lincecum hasn't had a hall of fame career. He petered out at age 27 and hasn't been even replacement level going on 5 consecutive seasons, after 5 really great seasons.
The world series titles don't make much argument for him either. He was good in 2010 and a bum in the following two titles, to the point that he was relegated to the bullpen because he was terrible and detrimental to winning. The idea that his hips were the issue is, I believe, a media created narrative that his camp pushed to try and create interest in signing him. I know he was hurt last year. But he seemed healthy enough the previous years as he was tossing over 150 innings in 30 plus games, all of them starts minus 13 appearances in 2014, when he lost his rotation spot due to sucking. |
Am I really immature for laughing every time I hear "Pujols"?
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Nope
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The whole os team has the Flu which his just great
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they've certainly been playing like puke a diarrhea :lol:
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I kid. They're a good team, sucks that they've been sick. Hate when whole teams catch bugs, kinda makes it super unfair, but not like it's anyone's fault.
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How bout that Pomeranz trade for the Sox. 3 ip 8 H 5 Er
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Really hope Vogelbach becomes a solid DH. Pulling for him. Hope he hits well for his new team for a week or two and earns a call up after the trade deadline.
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Really sucks Baltimore peaked so early.
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MLB currently considering some fan suggestions for ways to speed up games with one targetting relievers and managers having no limits on how many they can use per game. Also as a way to help increase scoring chances near the end of games.
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I might be done with baseball if they implement something like that. So fucking stupid.
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They should implement pitch count limits to hitters. You only get 5 pitches per AB. Game would speed up real fast that way
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I really hate the whole "speed" debate.... the only thing that needs to go faster in baseball is the speed in which the umpires fuck off....
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The game moves fine nowadays. Anyone who complains about the speed is not a baseball fan and won't watch once it's made faster.
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Limit batters to 2 crotch grabs per at bat
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and 3 loogies.
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Breaking news: Russell Martin slips in shower. Out of tonight's game, and may miss a few more.
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Don't drop the soap.
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Orioles are back in 1st hopefully they avoid team ravaging flu outbreaks again although they have lost Kim and Rickard to the DL and weiters hasn't played in a week either
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Losing Rickard is addition by subtraction.
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He was playing well..I don't wanna hear that
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He sucks. He's a well below average hitter. A well below average defender. Kim has been twice as good if not better in almost half the playing time.
I know you like Rickard but he still sucks. He literally contributes nothing. |
Trade rumor o the moment
Ubaldo and a prospect to the Padres for Melvin Upton The os also scouted Cashner so there might be something to Cashner/Upton for Ubaldo and prospects if They figure out the prosoects6 |
Baltimore has a pretty pathetic farm right now. I don't see a ton that may be of interest. However, we shall see.
Moving Upton allows the Padres to bring up Hunter Renfroe. He was one of the only two top prospects the Padres after the great purge of the Padres farm system. |
Ubaldo for Upton wouldn't need a big prospect since its a fairly even salary swap. Padres would be ahead about $5 million between remainder of this year and next
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I doubt the Padres would trade a winning asset for a losing one. If they take on Jimenez it's likely to net a bigger prospect return.
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Nelson Cruz beat the Jays 7 - 5
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/mikethemiz">@mikethemiz</a> blocked</p>— Cleveland Indians (@Indians) <a href="https://twitter.com/Indians/status/757001593208221696">July 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> The Miz wearing an Orioles jersey when they play the Indians seems weird/awkward |
Chris Sale had a "pre-game incident" and was scratched from today's start.
According to sources, it had nothing to do with a trade, but with an argument with the front office. |
Chris Sale cut up all the throwback jerseys before the game because he didn't want to wear them.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not a joke: Source says Sale blowup was because he didn't want to wear throwbacks, so he cut the jerseys up so no one could wear them.</p>— Tommy Stokke (@StokkeTommy) <a href="https://twitter.com/StokkeTommy/status/757000213731037184">July 23, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Were they from the Black Sox era?
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It'd be obscenely hilarious if they were.
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1976 season <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">reporter: what are you gonna do with all the unsold throwback jerseys?<br><br>White Sox: we're gonna put them<br><br>reporter: don't<br><br>White Sox: ON SALE</p>— Bic Pentameter (@AnthraxJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnthraxJones/status/757023933640142849">July 24, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
No Sale for Sale though. They are asking for 5 prospects.
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How about David Price
5 runs 11 hits in 5 ip He's not waiting til the postseason to suck |
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