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Why is Phil so fragile???

Why don't you ask Phil yourself?
I usually dont get involved with big league stuff as I'm more about the backyard, but when people talk trash on the CM Punk that pisses me off. The guy is the best of the best, the cream of the crop, of the post attitude era wrestlers. Punk has a right to act any way he wants and I hate seeing people talking tough about him online who have less talent in their entire lives than one of Punk's fingernails.

The CM Punk, like The WCW?

The Krow on The CMPhil

Oh that old excuse of trying to make CM Punk look bad.
"But he lost in UFC haha!"
Yeah he lost but the point is he tried and that is more than all these people making fun of him for losing in UFC can say for themselves.
Pathetic.

LOL he tried, that is the defense? A guy with no talent paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to train for 3 years, just so he could get 1 takedown on a photographer in 2 fights, and we are supposed to kayfabe believe this fragile idiot photoshopping FEDBAD titles is actually a tough guy who is the best at wrestling? Dustin Rhodes is going to do a job for Phil, when EVERYBODY knows that even at 53 years old Dustin would mop the floor with Phil.

AEW breaks Kayfabe CONSTANTLY, but yeah, Phil could TOTALLY physically best the other wrestlers, and he FOR REAL weighs 218 pounds, not 175 surely!

It’s not so much that people mock him for trying. It’s more that some people can’t take him seriously as a bad-ass because they know what happens when he gets into a real fight. That’s always a risk you take if you’re a professional at something.

CM Punk likes Bret Hart, so it’s coming full circle.

So wait…did CM Punk really edit the US Title out of a photo with Piper?

If he did that…that’s a weird vibe. Especially because he tried to go back, so it’s like…more about Vince not wanting him, I guess. Or he’s just trying to manipulate people like BigCrippyZ. But it’s a bit yuck to use Piper to do it.

Jindrak might be the most athletic wrestler I've ever seen


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mark Jindrak doing a no-hands Lionsault was incredible. <a href="https://t.co/FViJcu9kLe">pic.twitter.com/FViJcu9kLe</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1515845187200864257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Blah blah blah
More room temperature IQ talking points from Mom's basement.
It is not disputable that CM Punk is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time and he has the right to do and say anything he wants because he earnes it. Its fine if you dont like him and don't want to watch his matches, so the best thing would be to sit down, shut up and not watch his matches.
And the MMA thing, everyone knows wrestling is kayfabe. The toughest guy in wrestling is probably not the toughest guy in real life, thats not the point. I give Punk credit for giving it his all in the UFC attempt but he was a little too old and the ship had sailed. But Im not gonna sit here and run my mouth at somebody that I know for a fact is more talented than Ill ever be and I bet 90% of the people trash talking Punk wouldn't last 5 minutes in a fight.

He is??? How many Wrestlemania's did he main event? Hell, how many PPVs did he main event when he was WWE Champion? Seems like he was overrated BEFORE he got exposed as fraud tough guy. He is unquestionably the worst Mixed Martial Arts fighter ever.

Sounds like someone forgot about MG Hurst

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Damn, when even thekrow coming for you, you know it's gonna be a murder.... I think you should give up and hide xrod....

Fuck, you're right.

Thekrow is possibly the most valuable wrestling forum poster we've ever had. No shame in that.

I agree with thekrow

The only reason no one would last 5 minutes in a fight with CM Punk is because Phil wouldn't last that long.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nearly 40 years later, the Andre the Giant splash from the top rope is still one of the wildest things I’ve seen in a wrestling ring. ☠️ <a href="https://t.co/ly6O90b59X">pic.twitter.com/ly6O90b59X</a></p>&mdash; Vintage Puroresu プロレス (@vintagepuro) <a href="https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1516069175411691527?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KUSHIDA has left WWE

One of the least shocking departures ever.

Jindrak and O'Haire were one of the best things about WCW in 2000. They both had the potential to be huge stars.

when will they let fin go

Kushida will soon be the weekly debut on Dynamite, and face off against Trent!

Had a dream where AEW had existed for a lot longer, and that "El Generico" went to AEW instead of WWE... and of course AEW just let him be El Generico and he was still doing the gimmick until this day..... and we were robbed of all the goodness that is Sami Zayn...

Apparently WWE were of the belief that he'll be returning to New Japan. Timing-wise, he could theoretically go back for Best of Super Juniors which starts in mid-May. Would he want to go back to doing that when he'd already done all there was to do in BOSJ, I'm not sure.

But really, working anywhere outside of WWE you kinda have the freedom to show up wherever you want within reason so who knows.

This is really cool

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you missed this when I first posted it years ago, here’s a promo with the Hart Foundation and the ORIGINAL Demolition team. <br>Moondog Rex (Randy Colley) as the original Smash before Barry Darsow took over <a href="https://t.co/bhzukhKt7s">pic.twitter.com/bhzukhKt7s</a></p>&mdash; Richard Land (@maskedwrestlers) <a href="https://twitter.com/maskedwrestlers/status/1516366739071803393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Man, look at that hair on Eadie. Looks like a Lego piece.

poor randy colley. The Pete Best of Demolition.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Elix Skipper hits the single best slingshot headscissors I’ve ever seen in my life. <a href="https://t.co/ZyZIRG4Cdd">pic.twitter.com/ZyZIRG4Cdd</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1516461748899000324?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Elix Skipper is vastly under praised by the IWC. He was a one of a kind and did stuff that would WOW even in AEW. Did he work for WWE? I can't even remember. His Triple X run was probably the best of his career that I know of, but Team Canada was a lot of fun too.

Nope, never wrestled in the WWE. Just developmental.

Too bad he had the voice of an 8 year old.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">nice <a href="https://t.co/0IkmnjDsON">pic.twitter.com/0IkmnjDsON</a></p>&mdash; OVP - Retro Wrestling Podcast (@ovppodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/ovppodcast/status/1507846607072604160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lmao

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Heidi Lee Morgan risks it all �� Vince's commentary always kills me too. Shout out to <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnGjoni?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@johngjoni</a> for this one <a href="https://t.co/hr8OOyF9EC">pic.twitter.com/hr8OOyF9EC</a></p>&mdash; Ryan / WrestleBotch (@WrestleBotch) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleBotch/status/1516840691275472897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

AND A no.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Throwback to Brock giving A-Train an F-5 onto his neck in 2003 �� <a href="https://t.co/LGttx7epSt">pic.twitter.com/LGttx7epSt</a></p>&mdash; Ryan / WrestleBotch (@WrestleBotch) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleBotch/status/1516560017616302081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ooof that looked Brutal. Albert lucky that didn't do serious damage.

Taz's physical reaction at the announce table said it all.

I didn't even notice that before.

Presale code for SummerSlam in Nashville, TN is WWEVIP

Elix Skipper was a lot of fun. I don’t remember what actually happened to him. They did Triple X, then he was in Diamonds in the Rough and that is all I can remember.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No context. <a href="https://t.co/PDcEnckFKu">pic.twitter.com/PDcEnckFKu</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1516854046417633286?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The crowd is amazing.

nxtuk continues to be my favorite wrestling show every week. one hour, 3-4 solid matches, plenty of backstage/promo time, distinct characters and personalities, feuds that are given time to breathe but not extended out too long, enough different kinds of gimmick matches they can rotate through to keep things fresh (especially the heritage cup which is british rounds style), and nods to the history of the brand/wrestlers without bogging things down. kudos to whoever books it.

Bray with the odd name change and cryptic tweet:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">But if you become the machine, you don’t have to feel at all. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhatIf?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WhatIf</a>? <a href="https://t.co/IzSoaZyz1r">pic.twitter.com/IzSoaZyz1r</a></p>&mdash; ⭕️ (@Windham6) <a href="https://twitter.com/Windham6/status/1517144453823156226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TPWW legend Derek Sabato letting his feelings be known:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CASUAL FAN. Holy shit why isn’t this hard to understand? They’re playing into their audience. <br><br>This is the only genre that refers to the casual fan. You’re either entertained by it or not. <a href="https://t.co/nSEFoJ6b4l">https://t.co/nSEFoJ6b4l</a></p>&mdash; Derek Sabato (@DerekSabato) <a href="https://twitter.com/DerekSabato/status/1517252509710045184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Waiting to hear what Rob Harvey, The Nick, and Downtown Dave have to say

if you consider reading results and actually watching to be one and the same, sure

lol Rob was such a snarky fucker.

Rob Ban Harvey FTW

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cactus Jack used to do stuff like this almost weekly on television. <a href="https://t.co/8ft5LRFpeB">pic.twitter.com/8ft5LRFpeB</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1517286722278723591?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hmm I wonder why Mick was shot before the decade was out.

Do you really think he'd have made it as far as he did without the bumps?

I never said I did. Just...it came at a severe cost.

Yeah it did. I am looking forward to his podcast maybe pushing him up a bit. Imagine a fan that didn't see Foley's run, they'd never understand.

Lol he really was, because he had some sort of vague connection within WWE he would constantly post rumors as fact, and get uptight if anybody dared to question him.

Plus the whole UFC spoilers "controversy".

Are they still doing empty arena with piped in crowd noise? That threw me off a bit when I last watched. Checked out the Meiko vs Bea matches which were great.

they've had small crowds back for a few weeks now. the piped in crowd noise for a clearly empty arena was pretty off-putting but i got accustomed to the stupidity after a while.

i pipe in crowd noise whenever i make a post

I think he still could have found his way to WWE and gotten far on personality and “less is more” wrestling. At that point, who knows how much longer he could have extended his career. Hell in a Cell with Taker still seems like it would have been pretty pivotal to him getting to the next level but after that I’m not so sure he needed to be a bump machine.

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LMAO

Becoming the machine, huh? That sounds like a good way to CONTROL YOUR NARRATIVE

Gotta find a clip of when he jumped off the ropes to the concrete to a do a sunset flip on Paul Orndorff for absolutely no reason. What a lunatic.

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This is dead on.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A percentage of Casual wrestling fans left and boarded the MMA train a long time ago for there fulfillment of sweaty shirtless tough guy grappling…<br><br>The other percentage won’t be back until Bra and Panties matches make a comeback…</p>&mdash; “The Bad Boy” Joey Janela (@JANELABABY) <a href="https://twitter.com/JANELABABY/status/1517305838079291392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

sad but the stone cold truth (pun intended)

Interesting rumor making the rounds this morning. It's been said that AEW was trying to get Bret Hart, with several talents referencing him, the Owen Hart cup, etc. Was supposedly going to manage FTR.

Well that might all be a pipe dream as its being reported that AEW is under the impression that Bret has signed a new deal with WWE instead.

https://www.f4wonline.com/news/wwe/b...ative-wwe-deal

Bret of all people signing with WWE over AEW....kinda says a lot.

I think that’s off the mark. Fans of any TV show want compelling writing and stars. It’s an easy excuse to say that fans were lost to MMA (which many would argue is a completely different market) and because the show is PG.

It’s because they write bad television consistently and have no stars.

People don’t generally watch wrestling for the wrestling. They watch it for the stories and the special moments, which WWE choose to give you once a year.

If anything, they, along with AEW, are making a product specifically for the fans of sweaty shirtless guys grappling, because they don’t offer anything else beyond the wrestling.

Not really. He gets a boatload of money from Vince to not have to do anything, which is a sweet deal.

I'm actually kinda relieved he's not gonna be FTR's manager. I don't think they need a manager, they can talk...particularly Dax. Love Tully but he really didn't add much aside from the optics of their "old school team" vibe by having a manager for the sake of having one.

Would've been a cool moment for him to present the Owen Hart Cups winners with a trophy but I didn't want to see him as a regular on-screen character.

As it is I think everybody wins in this situation. Good for the Hitman for getting paid.

The “sweaty, shirtless tough guy grappling” dumb generalization aside, I think both can be true to an extent. People stopped watching wrestling because wrestling lost the script and the storytelling became abysmal. Many replaced it with stuff that did classic wrestling storytelling better (including MMA).

Also, apologies to Dale, but Bret would be kind of an awful manager.

lol bret would be an abysmal manager

He was kind of an abysmal wrestler as well.

WWE has Bret? Well AEW has Owen, so take that.

Now that’s not fair.

… He’s only an abysmal wrestler when compared to HBK.

And all other Hart's

Smith Hart > Bret Hart

Gertner is firing up his Best of Bruce Hart YouTube playlist.

Kenny Omega vs Bret Hart would be been so many stars

Bret def the most boring there is, the most boring there was and the most boring there ever will be.

Yes it does.

Bret would get paid a lot of money to not do anything in AEW. Half the roster is in that boat right now. He’s employed Arn and Tully since the start.

AEW had nothing to do with his brother. They are dining out on his death like they do Brodie Lee every year.

this may shock you but I agree. I mean it could be kind of funny watching him not actually want to be there. But beyond that, it'd be bad.

there are two letters that come to mind right now that express my feeling, one of them being used more than 8 times as a rule.

Helen Hart right now would be a better manager than Bret.

if we're talking hart managers, let's all brainstorm and figure out a way to get gary hart back in the mix. his reanimated corpse would be 100x better than living bret hart.

Watching people dump on Bret Hart makes me smile.

I knew you would screech those letters as soon as you saw that post.:kiss:

Corey Hart would be a better manager than Bret.

fucking PLEASE let teddy hart manage someone

It took me a long time to appreciate Bret Hart, but he’s easily one of the greatest of all-time. Way more wrestlers need to look at what he did and how he did, learn what they can, and adapt it.

Do not want to see him as a manager, lol. Special appearances and sometimes backing someone? Sure.

Given all the pieces they had going into Revolution, the smartest main event for Double or Nothing (in my opinion) would have been Adam Page defending against MJF with Bret Hart there to present the belt to the winner as a throwback to their very first show. Punk could have wrestled Jeff Hardy. But alas.

I would have also been okay with Punk beating Page at DON and Goldberg showing up on Dynamite to Spear him. Punk (w/ Bret) vs. Goldberg (w/ MJF). If you could have signed him for two matches, Punk & Wardlow vs. MJF & Goldberg as the second one.

That’s Breeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet Hart to you, sir.

A tag team of tabby cats

Bret is the best you dorks

Top 10 all time.

Need to make a Top 10 All Time thread

Mary Hart would be a better manager than Bret