Bobby Bonilla getting paid today

Bruce Sutter has been getting roughly $1.3 million from the Braves since 1990 and will continue to do so until 2020. He last played for the Braves in 1988.

The Reds have to pay Junior $3.5 million a year until 2021.

The Dodgers are paying out over $43 million this year to plates who are not playing for them.

And countless of other players are getting deferred money with interest.

Find it funny the Indians have to wear Canadian flag patches on Canada Day

Has any team doing that type of deal end up not having it backfire in terms of costs?

Like with the classic example of the Mets and Bonilla, whatever they saved at the time hasn't been close to what they have been paying out all these years later.

Blue Jays seeing if they can lose the game by running out of players due to ejections as this game goes to the 16th

Into the 18th, run out of pitchers so putting in Ryan Goins as pitcher

Goins loads the bases

DOUBLE PLAY to get out of the half

Goins makes it through!

Jays HAVE to deliver a run here though or they are DOOMED.

Heading into the 19th

Darwin Barney pitching now with no warmup....

Barney gives up the home run

And that's the ball game.

Will be a "good story" for Cleveland I guess... that they break their "streak record" in a 19 inning game.....

Trying to see the positives....

With the fan ballots now closed it’s time for my annual exercise in predicting the All Star Game rosters before they get formally revealed in a few days. As always, I don’t agree with all of these selections, however I’m making the predictions based on the process in which the teams are currently constructed. You have the fan-elected starters, player-elected reserves and pitchers, and the managers filling out the rest all while making sure each team has representation. It’s a complicated process that I think could be handled better, and I will point out some of the flaws in my projected roster as we go along.

I’ll start with the NL, because Rob Manfred thought it would be a good idea to have the Senior Circuit be the road team in one of their own ballparks.



National League

Starting Lineup (8)

C: Buster Posey, San Francisco Giants
1B: Anthony Rizzo, Chicago Cubs
2B: Ben Zobrist, Chicago Cubs
SS: Addison Russell, Chicago Cubs
3B: Kris Bryant, Chicago Cubs
OF: Yoenis Cespedes, New York Mets
OF: Dexter Fowler, Chicago Cubs
OF: Bryce Harper, Washington Nationals

In the final polling update this week, the closest race was at catcher where Buster Posey was trailing Yadier Molina but closing in quickly. Giants fans have been great at the polls in recent years and Molina is having a largely dreadful season, so I’m thinking Posey will pass Molina in these last few days.

The only projected starter here that I disagree with is Addison Russell, who while great defensively still has a long way to go to develop as a hitter. His presence on the team will likely deny one of Corey Seager, Trevor Story, or Aldemys Diaz a spot on the roster. Other than that though, this is a fair lineup. Sure you can argue the merits of Zobrist vs. Daniel Murphy or Bryant vs. Nolan Arenado, but all of those guys are likely to make the team anyway so it doesn’t really matter.

Player Balloting: Position Players (8)

C: Yadier Molina, St. Louis Cardinals
1B: Paul Goldschmidt, Arizona Diamondbacks
2B: Daniel Murphy, Washington Nationals
SS: Corey Seager, Los Angeles Dodgers
3B: Nolan Arenado, Colorado Rockies
OF: Jay Bruce, Cincinnati Reds
OF: Carlos Gonzalez, Colorado Rockies
OF: Starling Marte, Pittsburgh Pirates

Murphy and Arenado, as mentioned, are highly likely to be voted on to the roster as backups at their respective positions. Goldschmidt and Gonzalez also feel like safe bets. It’s a toss up as to who will make it between Seager or Story as the backup shortstop but I’m tentatively going to guess Seager fares better in the polling.

Even though I alluded to Molina having a terrible year, I could easily see the players voting him in entirely on reputation in spite of the numbers just as Jason Varitek was in 2008. On the flipside, reputation could very well hurt a guy like Ryan Braun as I can imagine a lot of players still refusing to vote for him after his PED fiasco from a few years ago. As such this spot is a toss up for me so I’m guessing the other two outfield spots go to Marte who is among the league leaders in steals and batting average, and Bruce who is the Reds’ best overall player.

Player Balloting: Pitchers (8)

SP: Jake Arrieta, Chicago Cubs
SP: Madison Bumgarner, San Francisco Giants
SP: Johnny Cueto, San Francisco Giants
SP: Clayton Kershaw, Los Angeles Dodgers
SP: Noah Syndergaard, New York Mets
RP: Jeurys Familia, New York Mets
RP: Kenley Jansen, Los Angeles Dodgers
RP: Mark Melancon, Pittsburgh Pirates

The starting pitching in the NL this year is absolutely absurd. Maybe a Cueto or a Syndergaard will fall off the actual player ballot, but I can’t fathom any of these five not making the team with the kind of years they’ve had. Kershaw would have had to be the one in line to make the start but with him going on the DL this week that duty might fall to Arrieta instead which is about as great of a Plan B as you could possibly have.

Trying to forecast the relievers is a much tougher call. I’ll give the nod to Jansen and Melancon who are having solid seasons and have a reputation. In spite of his relatively inflated ERA compared to his peers, Familia is the league leader in saves, has a regular season consecutive saves streak that dates back to August 1st of last year, and was viewed as a snub last year so I think he will get some love.

Managerial Selections (9)

C: Jonathan Lucroy, Milwaukee Brewers
1B: Wil Myers, San Diego Padres
SS: Trevor Story, Colorado Rockies
3B: Matt Carpenter, St. Louis Cardinals
OF: Odubel Herrera, Philadelphia Phillies

SP: Jose Fernandez, Miami Marlins
SP: Jon Lester, Chicago Cubs
SP: Julio Teheran, Atlanta Braves
RP: Fernando Rodney, Miami Marlins

Five teams are missing representation: the Marlins, Brewers, Phillies, Braves, and the hometown Padres. The Marlins’ spot is the easiest one to fill as Fernandez is a slam dunk choice for the pitching staff. There are nearly always three catchers on the All Star team, so Lucroy wins out over Wilson Ramos to satisfy the Milwaukee requirement. Herrera is simply the best player on the Phillies so he should make it as an extra outfielder.

The trade of Rodney to the Marlins seemingly makes Wil Myers a lock to be the Padres rep, although I think both will make it anyway as usually even the bad host teams will have two reps and Rodney still sorta counts towards that. That leaves the dumpster fire Braves whose best options would be pitchers: Teheran or Arodys Vizcaino. Collins watched Teheran fire 17 shutout innings against his Mets over the last two weeks so that might give him the leg up

It’s already a very Cub-heavy team but Lester has just been far too good to leave off. Trevor Story has been one of the best, well, stories in the NL so he should definitely be there. The last spot then goes to Carpenter who would give Collins versatility at 2B and 3B. If my prediction of Jay Bruce getting voted in by the players ends up not coming true, Collins is going to need to get creative to squeeze Bruce, Adam Duvall, or Zack Cozart on to rep Cincinnati.

Final Vote Possibilities

Here’s the point where you realize how deep the league really is. MLB rules require a minimum of 13 pitchers to be named to the roster. This projection only has 12. In that case, Collins would need to load up his Final Vote list with arms to fill the requirement. Another Cub starter such as John Lackey or Jason Hammel could be in the mix. Stephen Strasburg is on the DL but would still have the numbers to warrant the honor of being selected. A guy like Drew Pomeranz or Ryan Buchter could give Padres fans a chance to add another hometown player. Closers like Vizcaino, A.J. Ramos, or Hector Rondon could be in play. Lastly, don’t forget about Hwan Seung Oh who has been probably the best non-closing reliever in the NL.

Should one of those pitchers make the initial roster to free up Collins to nominate position players for his Final Vote, I’m thinking it would mostly consist of names already mentioned: Diaz, Braun, Ramos, Duvall, and Cozart could all be viable choices. Gregory Polanco could be an option in an already crowded group of outfielders along with any one of three Marlins: Marcell Ozuna, Christian Yelich and, yes, Ichiro Suzuki. Ichiro making one last All Star team would be a very nice send off for him, actually.




American League

Starting Lineup (9)

C: Salvador Perez, Kansas City Royals
1B: Eric Hosmer, Kansas City Royals
2B: Jose Altuve, Houston Astros
SS: Xander Bogaerts, Boston Red Sox
3B: Manny Machado, Baltimore Orioles
OF: Jackie Bradley Jr., Boston Red Sox
OF: Lorenzo Cain, Kansas City Royals
OF: Mike Trout, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
DH: David Ortiz, Boston Red Sox

Perez and Ortiz’ elections to their respective positions are a mere formality based on the most recent poll, the only debate is which of the two will garner the highest vote total. The one change I made from the poll is Cain overtaking Mookie Betts for a starting outfield spot. Cain was a very narrow fourth place but he has the ballot box stuffing Royals fans behind him and Betts’ recent injury might have lost him some late votes. To be blunt, I hope I’m wrong on this one because the pool of outfielders is very deep this year and Cain, while a nice player, could prevent someone more deserving from making the team.

I can’t object to any of the other starters. In particular the competitions all along the infield are between two players who are certainly going to make the team one way or another. Trout will be making his fifth All Star appearance at just 24 years old, he might break the record before he is all said and done.

Player Balloting: Position Players (9)

C: Matt Wieters, Baltimore Orioles
1B: Miguel Cabrera, Detroit Tigers
2B: Robinson Cano, Seattle Mariners
SS: Francisco Lindor, Cleveland Indians
3B: Josh Donaldson, Toronto Blue Jays
OF: Carlos Beltran, New York Yankees
OF: Ian Desmond, Texas Rangers
OF: Mark Trumbo, Baltimore Orioles
DH: Edwin Encarnacion, Toronto Blue Jays

The infield didn’t really take too much thought, and I’d be stunned if any of Cabrera, Cano, Lindor, or Donaldson failed to make the team. Wieters is one of only three AL catchers with a respectable batting line, so his election is sensible. The backup DH is always hard to forecast. I believe Nelson Cruz has the best case in terms of raw numbers, however much like with Ryan Braun I believe his PED history could cause some of his fellow players to steer clear, paving the way for Encarnacion to make it instead.

I had a much tougher time trying to decide which three outfielders the players are most likely to vote on. In the end I settled on Beltran who is a respected veteran in the midst of a career resurgence, Desmond whose transition to the outfield has been one of the better stories in baseball, and Trumbo who is amongst the league leaders in home runs. Ned Yost will have no shortage of other deserving outfielders to choose from to fill out the roster later.

Player Balloting: Pitchers (8)

SP: Marco Estrada, Toronto Blue Jays
SP: Cole Hamels, Texas Rangers
SP: Danny Salazar, Cleveland Indians
SP: Chris Sale, Chicago White Sox
SP: Steven Wright, Boston Red Sox
RP: Zach Britton, Baltimore Orioles
RP: Wade Davis, Kansas City Royals
RP: Andrew Miller, New York Yankees

I certainly can’t make an argument against any of these five starters. Sale would have to figure to be the top choice to get the start for the Junior Circuit. Hamels and Salazar have been the best pitchers on two of the best teams in baseball. Estrada has built on his quality campaign from a year ago with an even better one this year. Wright is leading the league in ERA and channeling his inner 2012 R.A. Dickey.

It’d be tough for the players to make a wrong choice on relievers with how many incredible ones there have been in the AL. Britton has been the best closer in the game this year, Davis is having another brilliant year and has built a reputation of dominance, and Miller is striking out nearly two batters an inning.

Managerial Selections (7)

C: Stephen Vogt, Oakland Athletics
SS: Eduardo Nunez, Minnesota Twins
3B: Evan Longoria, Tampa Bay Rays

SP: Chris Tillman, Baltimore Orioles
RP: Dellin Betances, New York Yankees
RP: Kelvin Herrera, Kansas City Royals
RP: Craig Kimbrel, Boston Red Sox

The A’s, Rays, and Twins are the only three teams yet to be called, and conveniently the most obvious representatives from each of those teams plays a different position. Vogt fills the unofficially required third catcher role, Nunez fills a sort of utility role, and Longoria is the face of his franchise and the type of star that deserves recognition at an All Star Game.

I suspect Yost will take at least one more starter to give him the luxury of extra innings if necessary. Personally Tillman wouldn’t be my preference but his 10 wins might stand out to Yost. Beyond that though I think Yost will repeat last year’s strategy of loading up on hard throwing relievers for this game. Herrera will be rewarded by his manager for a second year in a row as a set up man, and Betances will join his teammate Miller. Would it be overkill to include Aroldis Chapman and have the entire BMC trio available? Given that the objective is to win, probably not. However given that Chapman missed a month to suspension I will guess that he instead opts for a guy who has been around all year like Kimbrel.

Final Vote Possibilities

That guys like Betts and Cruz aren’t yet on this projected roster is quite an indictment of how convoluted the voting process can be. I hope it doesn’t end up like this in reality. Along with them, other potential bats that could be in play for the Final Vote depending on how Yost wants to use the spot could include: Ian Kinsler, Victor Martinez, Carlos Correa, George Springer, Adrian Beltre, and Dustin Pedroia.

Alternatively, maybe Yost wants to roll with 14 pitchers and give himself maximum flexibility on his pitching staff. If he wants another relief arm you’re looking at guys like Chapman, Steve Cishek, Roberto Osuna, Brad Brach, and Will Harris. Extra starter options (several of whom I prefer to Tillman, frankly) could include the Josh Tomlin, Trevor Bauer, and Corey Kluber trio from Cleveland, a Rookie of the Year candidate in Michael Fulmer, or guys like Aaron Sanchez, Colby Lewis, and Jose Quintana.

Jays can't convert 2nd run in a 19 inning game, even when their shortstop gives them a scoreless inning, but win the following game 9-6. They don't make enough in game adjustments when the bats aren't working. So infuriating.

How bout those Red Sox

Well..... when the bats are working, they are working.... DAMN

2 out of 3 ain't bad. 3 games down is alot better than expected this year.

Refering to their shellacking last night but anyway

Don't mean shit now.

yeah 2 of 3 is sweet. I'd rather lose 21-2 than 2-1. it's all the same anyways at the end of the day, no extra points for runs scored in the standings.

Don't know why Farrell keeps using Buchholz as a starter (or even at all) but today's win was good.

Basically no need to watch another Cubs regular season game unless it's against the Mets, Nats or Giants.

Just going to enjoy this while I can before the Mets inevitably go back into a 3 week offensive slumber.

Maybe Buchholz needs to pitch somewhere other than boston for a fresh start. He's obviously got a lot of years left in the league and it's not like he has bad career numbers.

Yay. Harvey takes all of the momentum from the Cubs series and then tagged for 11 hits and 6 runs in 3.2 innings against the Marlins. ERA nearly 5.

The guy is a fucking bum. Any trade value he had to try to bring a bat in this offseason is gone.

A fresh start would help him but has to be by free agency since he has almost no real trade value for the Red Sox. Combo of him being injury prone and being really inconsistent as a pitcher means anyone who wants him needs to have really low expectations.

He's a basketcase. Walks too many guys and then doesn't focus on getting batter out. Always with stupid pick off attempts that never work and deplete some of his energy. Then he either gives up more walks because of this or a home run.

makes you realize just how hard it is to be "the man" as a starting pitcher.

Sox win O's lose!

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lol has anyone else's team had a tough situation with Vic Carapazza?

I'm only asking because of the Jays' flare for the dramatic. If it's a notable deal that he's shit, it really makes me wish Umps were more accountable.

AMERICAN LEAGUE
Starters
C: Salvador Perez, Royals
1B: Eric Hosmer, Royals
2B: Jose Altuve, Astros
3B: Manny Machado, Orioles
SS: Xander Bogaerts, Red Sox
OF: Mookie Betts, Red Sox
OF: Jackie Bradley Jr., Red Sox
OF: Mike Trout, Angels
DH: David Ortiz, Red Sox

Pitchers
RHP: Dellin Betances, Yankees
RHP: Brad Brach, Orioles
LHP: Zach Britton, Orioles
RHP: Alex Colome, Rays
RHP: Wade Davis, Royals
RHP: Marco Estrada, Blue Jays
LHP: Cole Hamels, Rangers
RHP: Will Harris, Astros
RHP: Kelvin Herrera, Royals
RHP: Craig Kimbrel, Red Sox
LHP: Andrew Miller, Yankees
RHP: Danny Salazar, Indians
LHP: Chris Sale, White Sox
RHP: Steven Wright, Red Sox

Reserves
C: Stephen Vogt, Athletics
C: Matt Wieters, Orioles
1B: Miguel Cabrera, Tigers
2B: Robinson Cano, Mariners
3B: Josh Donaldson, Blue Jays
SS: Francisco Lindor, Indians
SS: Eduardo Nunez, Twins
OF: Carlos Beltran, Yankees
OF: Ian Desmond, Rangers
OF: Mark Trumbo, Orioles
DH: Edwin Encarnacion, Blue Jays

Final Vote
2B: Ian Kinsler, Tigers
3B: Evan Longoria, Rays
2B: Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox
OF: Michael Saunders, Blue Jays
OF: George Springer, Astros



NATIONAL LEAGUE
Starters
C: Buster Posey, Giants
1B: Anthony Rizzo, Cubs
2B: Ben Zobrist, Cubs
3B: Kris Bryant, Cubs
SS: Addison Russell, Cubs
OF: Yoenis Cespedes, Mets
OF: Dexter Fowler, Cubs
OF: Bryce Harper, Nationals

Reserves
C: Jonathan Lucroy, Brewers
C: Wilson Ramos, Nationals
1B: Paul Goldschmidt, D-backs
1B: Wil Myers, Padres
2B: Daniel Murphy, Nationals
3B: Nolan Arenado, Rockies
3B: Matt Carpenter, Cardinals
SS: Corey Seager, Dodgers
OF: Adam Duvall, Reds
OF: Carlos Gonzalez, Rockies
OF: Odubel Herrera, Phillies
OF: Marcell Ozuna, Marlins

Pitchers
RHP: Jake Arrieta, Cubs
LHP: Madison Bumgarner, Giants
RHP: Johnny Cueto, Giants
RHP: Jeurys Familia, Mets
RHP: Jose Fernandez, Marlins
RHP: Kenley Jansen, Dodgers
LHP: Clayton Kershaw*, Dodgers
LHP: Jon Lester, Cubs
RHP: Mark Melancon, Pirates
RHP: A.J. Ramos, Marlins
RHP: Fernando Rodney, Marlins
RHP: Stephen Strasburg, Nationals
RHP: Noah Syndergaard, Mets
RHP: Julio Teheran, Braves

Final Vote
1B: Brandon Belt, Giants
OF: Ryan Braun, Brewers
3B: Jake Lamb, Diamondbacks
OF: Starling Marte, Pirates
SS: Trevor Story, Rockies

* Inactive

Overall I did really well in predictions, with most of my misses being ones where I openly said I hoped I was wrong (Molina, Cain, Tillman).

Kinda shocked Trevor Story fell to the Final Vote. But I guess with Myers, Duvall, and Herrera all being taken because those teams needed reps I guess it makes sense that somebody had to drop out.

Yost went even more reliever-heavy than I thought. Just took the 5 starters voted on by the players and then loaded the rest with relievers. Davis and Colome are hurt but you still have guys like Chapman and Osuna who could be put in their stead. Looking at that list though, I don't blame him. Game might be over the second the AL get a lead.

:y: at Red Sox getting 7 all-stars. Biggest surprise is Steven Wright when considering the pitching expectations going into the season.

kinda sucks Sanchez didn't get the nod but whatever, at least Estrada gets his due.

Pedroia winning the fan vote really does feel like a foregone conclusion, yeah. Although I'm throwing my support behind Ian Kinsler. Dude is massively undervalued for a guy who I'd go as far as to say is a sleeper HOF candidate.

Similarly I expect the Giants fans to do their thing to get Belt in but my vote goes to Story.

Well Yost is gonna need to find some roster replacements for Davis, Colome, and possibly some starters if any of these guys pitch on Sunday. So Sanchez has a shot although I wonder if he'd even accept given the innings limit.

4 in a row for the Jays. Orioles have lost 5 in a row up until tonight. Interesting ramifications for the wildcard and the Easter division. If the Jays actually get hot it'll be something.

Yeah up until tonight
#wincolumn
#bluejaysfinallyskippedoversoxfor2ndbigwhoop

Betances & Miller make it for the Yankees. Okay.

Beltran got no business being there.

You are not painting a very good picture of Orioles fans

Beltran has no business being there? Are you high?

Among qualified AL OF he's 2nd in HR and 3rd in batting average and RBI. He's only 20th in WAR due to defense but he's been one of the best pure hitting outfielders in the AL this year.

Michael Saunders gave people a reason to vote for him in the last spot on the AL reserves with his performance tonight.

Troy Tulowitzki has been sensational since he's come back.

As much as I'd like to see Trumbo win the Derby I don't think he can do it. Maybe I'll be surprised

Matt Harvey is going under the knife and is done for the season.

We go live to Vito Cruz for his thoughts.

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Glad Harvey is getting the surgery. He was utterly useless this year so Logan Verrett or whoever else they decide to use in the #5 spot the rest of the way would figure to put up similar numbers.

Hopefully he comes back his normal self in 2017. I know I shat on him a lot this year because he's a very easy player to dislike when he's not living up to his bravado.

Canada defeated Red Sox Nation. Michael Saunders has won the AL Final Vote over Pedroia. Brandon Belt wins the NL spot as expected.

Other roster replacements:

-Corey Kluber for Marco Estrada
-Aledmys Diaz for Matt Carpenter
-Max Scherzer for Stephen Strasburg
-BARTOLOOOOO COLOOOOOOON for Madison Bumgarner

Colon makes the All Star team at 43 years old, returning to the stadium where he hit the HR heard round the world.

Canada is gay.

I voted for Saunders like 20 times. hahahaha But they both have very similar numbers this year. Was a wash between the two of them.

If I had a dime for every time I voted...... I'd have zero dimes!!!

I'd rather no Jays players play in the game as how many times has the AS helped continue a hot streak or spark someone out of a slump?

It's true, but I'm sure the guys are clamouring for a bit of a break. Not been an easy first 90ish games.

Cespedes and Syndergaard BOTH left with injuries. :|

Fortunately neither seem severe and the break is coming at the right time, but it sucks that they went from having possibly 2 All Star starters to none, as surely neither guy will play now.

I hope Padres starter Drew Pomeranz gets the call. Top ten pitcher in WAR, ERA, WHIP, K/9, total strikeouts, ERA+, etc etc. He is deserving of the nod.

Askl and you shall receive. Pomeranz gets the call. Awesome.

Kimbrel is having Knee surgery..

Their off-season moves aren't looking too good

The Kimbrel trade was an overpay no matter what happened to him. That said he was performing just fine and you can't predict health.

Sox win! Have 2 in the loss column over Jays for 2nd. 3 in a row.

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Daniel Murphy now has 20 hits and 17 RBI in just 12 games against the Mets. I have never seen anything like this.

Murphy is like a fat girlfriend you dumped who then goes on to drop 30 pounds, get implants, starts dating your next door neighbor, and has the loudest sex imaginable.

I guess you couldn't predict David price almost having a 5 ERA either

And there's another HR and 2 more RBI for Murph.

Unfuckingbelievable

I'll be damned. Derek Jeter got married.

To Hannah Davis, no less. Good for him.

Jeter proving patience is a virtue.

Another HR for Murph. 7th against the Mets in 13 games. Jesus fucking Christ

How is he not just getting walked every time out?

lol his numbers as a whole are ridiculous. Haven't gotten a chance to watch him though, since last years post season. Seems like his run created some kind of menace.

Yankees take 3/4 from the streaky Indians.

And get back to .500 in the process.

Enjoy 4th place

Sure will.

Droford, shut the fuck up

Well they won't finish last thanks to the Rays

So..

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Chance Sisco hit a homer in the Futures game..woo

Moncada.

Was there at the game. A kid for the Cubs, Eloy Jimenez, made maybe the best catch I've ever seen live.

Padres prospect Manny Margot robbed a homer. Mvp Yoan Moncada hit a fucking rocket into the left field second deck.

Had a blast watching these kids play.

You know that people have favourite teams that aren't your favourite team, and sometimes their teams aren't going to be particularly great at given points (hell the Yankees could conceivably go on a run and finish first in the East, you never know). This is a baseball discussion forum, not a talk shit on people who are fans of different teams forum. I'm sure Clockshot didn't take what you said personally, but show a slight bit of decorum and have a real discussion without being a smarmy little prick.

He's not capable of such.

All I know is despite being 15 over .500 at 51-36 the Orioles are prjected to finish 37-38 with 88 wins..behind the Sox and Jays who they are projected to play in the 1 game wild card. Feels ridiculous

It feels ridiculous because you lack the ability to be objective about your own team. You're the same guy who came up with the "peaking too early" nonsense last year when your team faded as Toronto surged.

If the protections were flipped they'd suddenly be much less if at all ridiculous, because you lack the ability to be objective.

Winning record in April May and June

Been in 1st place since June 6th only teams with better records since are Cleveland Houston in the AL..plus the Giants Dodgers and Nationals.

Best offense in baseball and the 2nd best bullpen.

Granted the starters are the 28th worst..but that will right itself with stopping putting Ubaldo Jiminez out there.

Which means they peaked and will have a downfall for the next 3 months.

Hey..Toronto managed to win 2 games in the ALCS which was 2 more than the Os did year before..but they didn't win..so..

So who is taking for Jimenez that will be an improvement?

Jim Palmer could come out of retirement and do better than his 2 whip and 7 era

In convinced it'll be Dylan Bundy though

It's also not that ridiculous to think Baltimore will slow down. They're third in the league in total offense per ops+, but middle of the pack in run prevention. So you have a team that's great at scoring and mediocre at preventing. Not hard to realize they're probably a pretty good but not great team.

As opposed to Toronto, who's 4th in offense and 2nd in run prevention. You would assume that Toronto would produce a better record since they're outscoring their opponents by a larger margin. Obviously doesn't always play out that way but over time those numbers are far more indicative of future results.

But of course Baltimore is being talked down, so it feels ridiculous.

Bundy has been hurt for ages and has a calcified shoulder. They're better off with Jimenez.

Must have missed last week when Bundy had 7 is in 2.1 innings out of the bullpen vs the Dodgers

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2.1 innings is not a start. He has a long history of injury and moving him into a more demanding position in the first healthy year he's had is ridiculously short sighted. Just because he's been good in short spurts doesn't mean he's gonna succeed starting. He's done nothing to indicate he's ready to going 5 or 6 innings every 5 days.

They've been stretching him out to like 3 innings out of the bullpen which is longer than Ubaldo can stay in his starts..

So how does tell you he's going to be an upgrade as a starter? 3 innings isn't a start? His track record of heath or lack thereof isn't concerning? One bit?

Not to mention, even if Bundy somehow manages to be decent, it won't account for the rest of the rotation, which is still mediocre at run prevention. He's not going to dramatically change that current ranking.

38 + 41

Final list of All Star replacements:

AL out: Estrada, Kimbrel, Salazar
AL in: Kluber, Sanchez, Quintana

NL out: Carpenter, Bumgarner, Strasburg, Fowler, Cespedes, Syndergaard
NL in: Diaz, Colon, Scherzer, Bruce, Marte, Pomeranz

79 All Stars in total, roughly 10.5% of the league. Not much you can do to change that though given all the injuries.

The lineups have also been unveiled:

NL
1. Ben Zobrist 2B
2. Bryce Harper RF
3. Kris Bryant 3B
4. Wil Myers DH
5. Buster Posey C
6. Anthony Rizzo 1B
7. Marcell Ozuna CF
8. Carlos Gonzalez LF
9. Addison Russell SS
Pitcher: Johnny Cueto

AL
1. Jose Altuve 2B
2. Mike Trout CF
3. Manny Machado 3B
4. David Ortiz DH
5. Xander Bogaerts SS
6. Eric Hosmer 1B
7. Mookie Betts RF
8. Salvador Perez C
9. Jackie Bradley Jr. LF
Pitcher: Chris Sale

Fucking sucks not having Cespedes and Thor. My interest in the game is really hampered as I highly doubt Colon is gonna pitch and Familia might not unless the NL has a late lead. Tough to blame Collins not wanting any of his guys to get hurt but still sucks.

Wil Myers!

Mark Trumbo unloading the trumbombs

Hopefully Stanton hit too many in the 1st round

These goofy yellow and brown Padres unis are everyone's favs but I'm impartial to the old home pinstripes. Classy.

http://www.sportfansedge.com/images/...Ness%20MLB.jpg

or these:

http://www.supplyjerseys.co/pic/San-...6259-77754.jpg

Agree with Drebin. Love the 84 theme but the blue mid 90s pinstripes where it's at

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Giancarlo Stanton REALLY loves his bat. <a href="https://t.co/UKZSRt6dLY">https://t.co/UKZSRt6dLY</a></p>&mdash; Evan Altman (@DEvanAltman) <a href="https://twitter.com/DEvanAltman/status/752675235774816256">July 12, 2016</a></blockquote>
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