That'll be Jeff. He'll be wrestling when he's 80. Matts had issues before, I think with his back if I remember correctly. He's got to be close to hanging it up.

... meanwhile, Mustafa Ali is essentially being held hostage.

Shouldn't have went to social media. He tried to spite them and now they are returning the favor. The last thing I'm doing at my job I don't like is trying to piss everyone off. It's already bad enough, why make it worse?

Also hostage is a bit harsh. Hostages don't get paid 6 figures to sit around and basically do whatever they want. If that's what a hostage is then sign me tf up.

Oh, I personally agree with the money part. But maybe he doesn't exactly need it, nor does he need any sort of legal entanglement for just walking like someone such as Mr. Of The River had to do.

Also, my point is that Jeff walked out, and can bascially do whatever he wants. Mustafa said he wants out, and they told him no... and it feels like one of those "better to ask forgiveness than permission" types of things.

Also also, I still don't get why WWE is like this. They won't let people leave if they're unhappy - even having gone so far as to add time on their contract for time missed while injured (I think it happened to more than one person, but I can only think of Rey Rey that one time) - but will fire people who moved halfway across the country or made huge consessions for them with the expectation they were going to be with the company for awhile. You'd think shit would be the other way around.

And it isn't like they are even going to use him for anything at this point. If they do, he should shit the bed and not care like EC3 at the end of his "run".


Thinking about it, if you aren't using a guy AND you won't let him go, why is that? Is there something to be afraid of? Certainly not, I wouldn't think, not with a talent like him who is "good", but not a "superstar".

I think Matt said shortly before his WWE deal was up that he thinks he's got 3-4 years left on a "modest schedule" and that would be 2 years ago now, so yeah I think he's on very limited time. Probably wants to get out before he's too beat up to play with his kids that Reby keeps having.

Jeff inferred in 2020 that he could be on borrowed time in the ring too so I dunno. He's admitted that the bumps have taken a real toll over the years, hence why he protects himself on the Swanton now instead of the other way around. But of the two he's definitely the one I can see changing his mind and sticking around until he's taken one bump too many.

Broken Hardys...just a different kind of broken.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">30 years ago today:<br><br>Hogan is chosen; Sid isn't happy. <a href="https://t.co/hXLZBowp3U">pic.twitter.com/hXLZBowp3U</a></p>&mdash; OVP - Retro Wrestling Podcast (@ovppodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/ovppodcast/status/1488504154771230723?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Meltzer reporting Shane vs Seth is the WM plan, weird if true

lol I just saw the dark match after RAW last night was Becky vs Bianca. I bet you can guess how that turned out lol.

Bianca squashed Becky in 12 seconds.

On Mustafa Ali: Ask for your release privately, then when the next round comes up, you’ll be let go. Seriously, they do this with basically everyone that asks these days. Lucha House Party are examples of that. Don’t go public, you fucking twat.

On Jeff Hardy: Ask for your release privately, then when the next the round comes up, you’ll be let go. This isn’t that hard. But wrestlers are fucking morons who jump onto hard surfaces back-first for a living, so go figure they can’t work this out.

Hiring Jeff is a terrible idea right now. If he can do it to Vince, he can do it to you. Matt should also be fired, just because he’s terrible.

Agreed. Ali's problem is not that he asked for his release, it's that he asked for his release and then went public about it. Vince will let him SIT for however much is left on this contract, he doesn't give a fuck.

Do we know for a fact he didn’t ask for it privately? I have no idea. But if he did and was denied, then I don’t blame him. They pulled the same shit with Brody.

Lots of speculation going on, should monetize it maybe, see how many subs can be gotten, then spend like crazy with ill gotten gainshausen

He may be lucky and get out in the next batch of releases, but he may have pushed that all back. Inadvertently saved a bunch of people their jobs…or prevented people from getting out. :lol:

Omfg

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Khali “powerbombs” Kojima <a href="https://t.co/BrfhouGl9t">pic.twitter.com/BrfhouGl9t</a></p>&mdash; Chad Campbell (@bigboysplaywcw) <a href="https://twitter.com/bigboysplaywcw/status/1488633382921809927?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:rofl:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is what's called living your best damn life <a href="https://t.co/bKee1Jd0cm">pic.twitter.com/bKee1Jd0cm</a></p>&mdash; Kris Zellner (@KrisZellner) <a href="https://twitter.com/KrisZellner/status/1488706539435216901?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The November 4 set of WWE releases are now free agents and out of their non-compete clauses.<br><br>This includes Karrion Kross, Keith Lee, Ember Moon, Oney Lorcan, Gran Metalik, Lince Dorado, Mia Yim, Harry Smith, Eva Marie and Nia Jax.</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1488746856603607040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No difference-makers in there, but it’ll be interesting to see where they end up all the same. Harry Smith is probably the one I’m most interested in.

Didn’t he literally kill a man trying that? Fucking hell.

lol Sami Zayn attacked Johnny Knoxville at the Jackass premiere. Johnny fought back and got Zayn kicked out the theatre.

Zayn was then lurking outside posting online how he's waiting for Knoxville to come out after the show lol.

Guess that's your celebrity WM match this year.

I don’t know why I still listen to the free clips from Meltzer and Alvarez. They’re full of shit and don’t know what they’re talking about. I guess it just keeps me up to date the talking points. But I just got so frustrated listening to the one from Tuesday talking about how AEW is so good at creating stars, yet WWE sucks at it so much. Yet…their show is watched by way more people than the other show? How does that make ANY sense?

Austin Theory beats Kevin Owens, Alvarez complains. His defense is that WWE has to beat him at the Chamber. Does he whinge about this when AEW does a clusterfuck featuring its alleged rising stars? Of course not.

AEW protects its “stars.” Never mind the sooking he does when the WWE tries to do the same — he’ll only use this as an argument when talking about WWE bringing guys up.

MJF had a win-loss percentage of 77% in 2021, by the way. Jungle Boy 70%. Allin did better at 89%. Year before he was 60%.

i predict it's a jackass-style cinematic pure comedy segment. gotta fill up those two cards!

I’m fine with Zayn and Knoxville. I wonder if it would be better off on FOX, letting a lot of people see it and getting it out of the way. But maybe they can space it out until then.

I see Impact Wrestling making it pretty good out of that recently released talent.

Imagine applying this same "logic" to literally any other job.

"Hey, I want to put in my two weeks notice."

"Okay, well, we don't fire people until one particular time of year, so just continue driving your ass to the office for another five months."

I'm sure you'd say you would do just that just to uphold your point, but in real life practice, pretty sure nobody would want to actually go along with that shit. But because it's some "dream job" notion, not getting the release you ask for from a company not keen on keeping you somehow makes you a "twat".

Especially if you have other shit you want or need to do, and two weeks notice is really just more of a formality to somewhat ensure you can be hired back. And even that doesn't doesn't neccessarily apply to WWE either, since they've brought back people they've fired, publicly buried, and had even become persona non grata for years at a time. With all the hay made out of Jeff's departure, pretty sure they would bring both Hardyz back... especially Jeff, because they'd see some sort of percentage in it. All this really says is that they see value in the guy, but want to pretend they don't. They're still on that toy collecting nonsense.

Jeff might have wanted to ask for a release, too, but would have been in the same boat of needing to sit out however long his contract was, so he pretened to be fucked up and they let him go under the guise of a wellness violation to avoid any negative PR. Not a popular scheme, but it got him out of contract.

I get the point behind being so-called "professional", but it's a two way street. Who gives a fuck if they want to work for the supposed competition that you also pretend isn't competition? And again, it isn't like they didn't do this type of shit even when AEW or resurrection of NWA didn't exist. Or when they pretended ROH or TNA weren't a thing. Or hell, even before they really *were* a thing.

This whole thing makes zero sense from WWE's standpoint:

-It makes zero business sense to pay someone just to spite them.

-It makes zero business sense to arbitrarily keep someone around you're not using and/or minimizing.

-It makes zero buisness sense to fire people who actually want to be there to "save money", but continue paying someone who doesn't want to be there.

Nice job putting words into my mouth. I’ve always said that talent should be able to leave the WWE if they want. I’m just able to see their perspective too, given that WWE offers a global platform to allow people to market themselves. Bo competes definitely make sense. As does not rewarding an idiot for going public saying that he wants to break his contract like that is a key. Brian Kendrick has already been released from his deal. Bad-mouthing the company, whether you agree with their hiring/firing policies or not is a stupid motherfucking way to go about achieving your goal, if your goal is actually to get out.

Jeff Hardy didn’t ask for his release from the company. Do you know how I know this? Because they didn’t fucking fire him when they were looking to unload people.

They recently sent Mustafa Ali over to Saudi Arabia. That’s one of their highest paying gigs of the year. And they have been firing people who don’t want to be there to save money. That’s why Lucha House Party went. Mustafa Ali probably would have gone if he didn’t make such an unprofessional stink.

By the way, Tony Khan is apparently pretty hell-bent on getting people to honor their contracts too. We’ll see if he’s got the guts, but let’s not pretend it’s just Evil Vince.

I'm good with Zayn/Knoxville at Mania

He did a flap jack to an untrained wrestler.

shane is out of wwe he was sent home today no more raw

2 places shane can buy if he wants impact or roh

Only 60 likes on an account with over 1 million followers, interest in Ronda at an all-time high!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Baddest Woman on the Planet is back in WWE <a href="https://t.co/O4XI2wT1a8">https://t.co/O4XI2wT1a8</a></p>&mdash; Sports Illustrated (@SInow) <a href="https://twitter.com/SInow/status/1487633285614350337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

WWE Next In Line signee AJ Ferrari responsible for car wreck that lead to hospitalization and a vehicle engulfed in flames



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oklahoma State wrestler AJ Ferrari and All-American cross country runner Isai Rodriguez were hospitalized with injuries after a car crash Monday.<br><br>The school said in a statement that neither of the two athletes suffered life-threatening injuries. <a href="https://t.co/KzE8ERDkgG">https://t.co/KzE8ERDkgG</a></p>&mdash; ESPN (@espn) <a href="https://twitter.com/espn/status/1486089095701053443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ric Flair and Fifi have broken up. They were together for several years and she was his manager a long time ago. Reports that they separated a few months ago. I wonder if the Darkside documentary is a reason for their split?

Shit Posting
 

If on the horizon for wrestling in the US there is a new company in the distance, there is one thing I am really hoping for. When I watch WWE or AEW, New Japan, Impact... everyone is doing this "hyper-speed" pro wrestling. It's all influenced by Japan and early ROH days. This style that works well for smaller people, the dives and kick pads, the thigh slaps and limited selling for devastating spots.

I really want a product that does none of that. Go back to the basic and drag down the action to a point where the back and forth punches of a Bockwinkle and Lawler in the Memphis Coliseum would rivet the audience like they were in a Rocky movie.

There is such a focus of gymnastic style moves and to an extent it's cool. Like when Ricochet and Ospreay did that match several years ago in the J Cup, that was game changing. It was like Marvel meets wrestling. As a spectacle, or a showcase it was cool but now that is dominating the cards.

I still love watching AEW and a lot of their super speed matches are really cool but I do really want to see someone go with a different take. If that hypothetical promotion were to ever happen.

Of course there is always the chance that ROH could turn their product into something different when they return. I mean they have a lot of guys I'd try to get back like Gresham and Bandido, but they also had Adam Scherr on their last show. I wonder if that is a sign that they are going to be picking up some new names, since obviously they were able to get out of all their other contracts that will be happening on some level.

Also just wanted to mention that FTR did show up at the Final Battle PPV and face off with The Briscoes. While that could be a match that get's a spot on a GCW or perhaps even an AEW show, I think it would make more sense for that match to take place at ROH's return WM weekend at Supercard of Honor.

ROH will probably have a pretty interesting card for that show and I do expect that AEW will lend a hand, and we are likely to see some new signings that we didn't expect so that show will be worth watching.

I just want things to make sense.

faces of foliage

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Hardwork Bobby Walker might be the worst wrestler in the history of wrestling

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How do you miss a target that big? <a href="https://t.co/xbhl8cr4Nk">pic.twitter.com/xbhl8cr4Nk</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1488964293072670734?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is the same guy who sued WCW because they didn’t give him the same pay as Ric Flair, right?

Lol yeah. He always used to do these rope walk/spring board moves but would fall off 90% of the times. In the racial discrimination lawsuit Arn Anderson goes into details how he kept telling Walker to practice those things in training, not on live T.V but Walker would ignore him

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A first look at Beth Phoenix and Shawn Michaels from the Performance Center of the WWE 2K22 MyRISE Mode ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE2K22?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE2K22</a> <a href="https://t.co/cIrtgq5fD2">pic.twitter.com/cIrtgq5fD2</a></p>&mdash; The SmackDown Hotel �� #WWE2K22 (@TheSDHotel) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheSDHotel/status/1488921569627934724?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lollllll wtf.

My God.

That’s incredible.

But they gave Beth Phoenix HBK's eyes. :wtf:

That will never happen. Or at least never take off in any meaningful way. This fast paced style has been around for a long time, but became so popular because it reflects modern society's obsession with instant gratification.

There will always be fans who can appreciate the slow burn of old school wrestling, but as long as we live in a culture that needs everything right this instant, it will never take off with mainstream audiences.

Outstanding lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lord Steven Regal is APPALLED that Fit Finlay would possibly interfere for him. <a href="https://t.co/6F4MrvzS4D">pic.twitter.com/6F4MrvzS4D</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1488925648840278019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don’t know if I agree with this. Normally your posts are pretty spot-on, but I think too much cynical is written about younger generations, technology and how we consume media. Yes, it has changed. But that doesn’t mean people can’t appreciate a story or something with a more deliberate pace. I’d suggest that people’s appetite for finely crafted drama has only increased over the years.

I have this image of a product that looks similar to Lucha Underground at The Temple, is wrestled a bit more like Bloodsport where less is more. The promotion would start with a G-1 Style tournament. Call it something different of course but it's a league tournament.
Imagine a 20 or so show tour broadcast on FITE with a mega roster of available talent out there right now.

Based off that you could have an entire promotion to go forward.

I don't disagree entirely, but in regards to this industry specifically, I can't see mainstream fans going back to slower style matches. I think you can throw the occasional old school style match in there, but a product that is entirely, or even mostly that will get rejected. Do casual fans even talk about ring psychology, story telling, or any of the subtle details that make a great performance?

I would love a promotion that adopts a grounded sports presentation and showcases actual classic strong style wrestling as opposed to the indyriffic imitation we have today.

I was excited for AEW because when Cody was describing it, that's what it kind of sounded like, but it's obviously not what we got.

psychology and story telling arent things people dicuss theyre things that draw people in against their will when done correctly and its those factors that are misisng from most of all modern wrestling and its that void that keeps the product from working

I have doubts whether that's enough anymore. The draw of wrestling during its biggest boom periods were the characters more than the wrestling itself. Obviously having great wrestling compliments those characters, and you want that in the product, but if you can't create stars, does it even matter whether your product old school wrestling or modern spotfests?

I think you’re drawing a line between characters and psychology that doesn’t need to be there. Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin and The Rock all had excellent psychology. People might attribute it to “character.” More casual fans might attribute it to them being “cool” or just who they are as people. But that is conveyed a lot of the time through psychology. It’s like a grounding of that character.

If Austin started coming out doing cartwheels, in fluro pink trunks and his finishing move was a moonsault that he got power for from kissing a baby — the whole act falls apart. Good psychology means being “on” as an entity, and doing things that your character, based in a sports-setting, would do.

Or just read Destor’s posts.

See ... I'm not so sure that back in "the day" that the majority of fans really sought out a "great match" like obviously a stinker is a stinker but there wasn't this standard of certain spots you had to hit for it to be a classic. Now you have the tope suicida's, the apron work, trading finishers and kick out, finisher off the top etc...

Fans really cared a lot more about the story and how their guy grows to overcome the bad guy. But still within that you had those more athletic performers like Shawn, Steamboat or Owen, the technical aces like Bret or Mr. Perfect, but obviously the characters that were compelling like Jake, Heenan, DiBiase and Flair. Then the monsters like Yoko or Bundy, Andre or Vader.

When I was a kid I only really noticed the match quality when it was a shit match, otherwise I was pretty much into whatever.

https://i.imgur.com/bBaYyzx.jpg

Foleyhausen is really good people.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Look at the smoothness of this exchange between Chris Jericho and Dean Malenko… <a href="https://t.co/6Pl9MIScsi">pic.twitter.com/6Pl9MIScsi</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1489397153185337344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

lol Goldberg vs Reigns at Blood Money 7 seems to be the plan atm.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is like if someone showed up on Smackdown named Michael Bole. <a href="https://t.co/TtFP0ryRnj">pic.twitter.com/TtFP0ryRnj</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1489593110103482370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ugh.

One, way to complain about somebody putting words in your mouth, but then proceeded to do the same to me. Pot/kettle. But, I said that with an eyeroll, and it wasn't supposed to be a focal point of the issue, so fair, I'll take that one.

Two, not releasing Jeff isn't necessarily "evidence" he never asked - or more importantly what I actually said of *wanted* to ask - for a release. There may even be other oeople who are/have been quiet about wanting to leave and being kept in the background while silently hoping to get dismissed early. We don't know that either, though, because if they exist, they're quiet. If Mustafa Ali didn't take to social media, there's still no guarantee he would've been granted his release just because he was publicly quiet. He might have been just as mad, and just as beholden to his contract, but nobody would have known. Jeff might have even asked and also told no. They probably wanted him to ride out his time as well. We really don't know that, because the only speculation at the time was about a potential wellness policy violation vs his history of them.

Three, you would think that "badmouthing the company" would be a fast track out the door, not a reason the place keeps you around. It is a perverse sort of "punishment"and once again, a strange business strategy. If I publicly told my boss in so many words to go fuck himself, I'm 99% certain (margin of error and all) he wouldn't keep me around just to prevent me from potentially working for a competitor. There is no "their side to see" here, and it goes back to the hyperbole I used about being "held hostage". He can't leave, without some sort of contractual detriment, and they won't let him just because he wants it? That is a petty point for a publically traded company. Seeing the company ceasing to employ someone as a "reward" that they are unwilling to give is ass backwards. "He should be thankful he gets to be on TV" doesn't work when he isn't on TV, yet still is expected to travel like he is. It is also ironically making people figure this is some sort of work that is going to be the start of some SCSA type push or the thing when Austin Aries walked out of Impact how he did.

Four, everything is NOT a Vince vs Tony argument. Who gives a shit about TK holding people to their contracts? Good for him. Not the same thing, though. He's been holding on to talent and just letting contracts lapse instead of cutting them in a manner of "post wrestlemania housecleaning". He isn't in a situation like this, though. If, say, Darby Allin wanted out and Tony said "no", then kept him off TV but made him show up for all the tapings anyway, we could make some sort of apples to apples comparison. And AEW would indeed be just as shitty as WWE. It isn't championing for AEW. It is barely even involving them outside of the natural speculation (but not guarantee) that it is the most likely place he'd show up and he'd likely be expected (but again not guaranteed) to thrive. But you could substitute any fed there, including New Japan. For the argument itself, AEW is a non-factor.

The only thing that even *makes* this an "evil WWE" issue is the long history of this type of thing being an "evil WWE" issue.

To pull a completely different example, I will mention Gallows & Anderson. No matter what anyone thinks about "Medium Show and Small Show", they made BIG NOISE in New Japan. Enough to warrant the attention of WWE- a company with deeo pockets, but notoriously wishy-washy about how they present and book and push tag teams... especially ones they didn't create. It wasn't super long until they went from Bullet Club buzz to just another couple of guys on the roster. Eventually, they would have been split up, repackaged, or shitcanned (or all three) if the formation of AEW wasn't happening. Now, suddenly, they had value to WWE again if only in denying somebody else - especially an organization made up of their well-publicized friends - access to them. They sign them to these big contracts to keep them off the table, then decide like five months in that they didn't want to pay the Good Brothers anymore. How shitty or not that was doesn't hinge on which side balked. If G&A weren't happy and walked out, there would have been a lot of hay made about them being "unprofessional", but because WWE changed their minds on the boatload of cash and multiyear deal they just signed, somehow "that's just business"?

I mentioned before they've kept people under contract or even extended their contract time just to fuck with them. Publicly calling bullshit on that shouldn't make the talent the villain.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The WrestleMania X Rap from Men Ona Mission! <a href="https://t.co/JXkTtFXMRH">pic.twitter.com/JXkTtFXMRH</a></p>&mdash; Richard Land (@maskedwrestlers) <a href="https://twitter.com/maskedwrestlers/status/1241090057278304261?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

omg i am going to roll up to the WM party this year jamming this on max volume. It will be wondrous.

Pretty smart match for the show. It was scheduled to happen and the last time we saw Goldberg he was going over the current WWE Champion. Plus, Reigns is now feuding with Brock, who is one of Goldberg’s most iconic opponents (definitely in this run).

You’ve got this, an Elimination Chamber featuring some pretty amazing talent and Becky Lynch vs. Lita. That’s a pretty stacked show.

watching tracey smothers work a gcw crowd from 2019 and he is so damn good. using jim cornette's birthday to get heat. a brilliant man.

Going to try and be really succinct with this: The company does not want to set a precedent where unprofessionalism gets you what you want. They may offer him a conditional release, not grant him one or just release him with the next batch, but that sort of unprofessionalism is such bullshit.

lol holy shit he's having a "dance off to the death" with marko stunt. unreal.

Long twitter thread but none of it is really surprising


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Glassdoor Reviews by former WWE employees / contractors:<br><br>[thread]<br><br>&quot;You could be released at any time. There's no benefits, no health insurance and the contracts were extremely one-sided.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/xfhuNBJQ01">pic.twitter.com/xfhuNBJQ01</a></p>&mdash; Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1489635305284059144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Smothers was so fucking great. FBI are the highlight of late 97/early 98 ECW. Everything his did was amazing.

Vince totally eye fucking Sunny

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A 52 year old man and a 24 year old woman in 1997 just hanging out and being pals. This is what it looked like. <a href="https://t.co/kscz79wisA">pic.twitter.com/kscz79wisA</a></p>&mdash; Alan4L (@Alan4L) <a href="https://twitter.com/Alan4L/status/1489661985524486147?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

he was fantastic in ecw. that's the era of ecw i'm most familiar with i'd say. but seeing him wrap a crowd around his finger with ease 20 years later is amazing.

IF I HEAR THIS CROWD CHANT GCW, I'M COMING OUT THERE AND EVERYBODY DIES.

I guess it's because it's my childhood but I really loved the post steriod WWF. The New Generation, I can always go back and watch that stuff and get sucked into it. Vince on commentary, King is the new Heenan, smaller venues with tons of kids... That Mania 10 card was so stacked. Truly sucks that they had to cut that 8-man tag (or was it 10?) because that match had a lot of stories that were prevalent at the time. What a great show.

Was pumped for that 10 man tag as a kid. Was shook that it didn’t happen.

what was the 10-man supposed to be?


also, i started watching wrestling in 1996. i fucking loved catching livewire on saturday, superstars on sunday and raw on monday (or whatever day when it was preempted by the dog show or tennis)

IRS, Headshrinkers, Martel and Jarrett vs 123 Kid, Bob Holly, Tatanka and Smoking Gunns.

It could have been a fun match considering the participants. I think they ended up having the match on Raw but I haven't seen it .

Kenny Omega randomly attacking Will Ospreay, very weird


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dude your approaching 40 and we all still poke fun that you wrestled a 9 year old girl.<br><br>That’s you.<br><br>Bit weird bro. <a href="https://t.co/PR1sFmPvpp">https://t.co/PR1sFmPvpp</a></p>&mdash; ᵂⁱˡˡ ᴼˢᵖʳᵉᵃʸ • ウィル・オスプレイ (@WillOspreay) <a href="https://twitter.com/WillOspreay/status/1489701700323758080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brother makes MILLIONS of dollars and he is concerned about some cunt not having anything to do with his company, trying to rebuild a scene that so many people gave up on.<br><br>Bruv just rehab up, I want what’s best for you and hope you live a happy life.<br><br>Just lemme focus on my shit</p>&mdash; ᵂⁱˡˡ ᴼˢᵖʳᵉᵃʸ • ウィル・オスプレイ (@WillOspreay) <a href="https://twitter.com/WillOspreay/status/1489711276192317445?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah I looked it up and it's the April 4th episode. It would have been a fun match to add to that Mania because every match is so different. Really a buffet show with the brilliant Owen/Bret match, laced with the story of the WWF Championship triangle with Luger/Yoko/Bret, you've got the brawl with Crush and Savage, the spectacle of Razor/HBK and the "fun" intergender tag match with Doink and Dink vs Luna and Bam Bam. Gonna have to do a Mania 10 re-watch on the Road to Mania this year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crazy Rockers double team move <a href="https://t.co/140DxlsC5Z">pic.twitter.com/140DxlsC5Z</a></p>&mdash; Michael (@mikeVSphilly) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikeVSphilly/status/1489750830714654725?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Possibly a work for no good reason at all, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Omega is so insecure that when Dave blows another wrestler (called Ospreay the best heel in the business and on the level of Terry Funk the other day), he’s just gotta take shots.

Holy shit, I kind of glossed over Omega’s tweet. “EZ 5’s.” Fuck, that refers to Meltzer’s star system. This guy is actually insecure because Dave’s got a new favorite. Hahaha.

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Lol wow, look at this dudes head bounce off the mat

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Damn. <a href="https://t.co/LTWYHhtmLh">pic.twitter.com/LTWYHhtmLh</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1489792349022695425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Osprey has greatly improved his physique, presentation, and in ring work since going heavyweight, but holy fucking hyperbole, batman!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Apparently this guy was fine but it’s one of the nastiest powerbombs you will see. <a href="https://t.co/US4YnoECYf">pic.twitter.com/US4YnoECYf</a></p>&mdash; Rob Naylor (@NINaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/NINaylor/status/1489998436292304897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Speaking of powerbombs.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Awesome&quot; Mike Awesome being awesome and nearly murdering Kintaro Kanemura <a href="https://t.co/5DDWWRG7oc">pic.twitter.com/5DDWWRG7oc</a></p>&mdash; Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1489985254375010305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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They’re no Shield that’s for sure.

Also, how did they botch it twice?? :shifty:

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">El Gigante was incredible. <a href="https://t.co/A3oD3HJIIj">pic.twitter.com/A3oD3HJIIj</a></p>&mdash; WCW Deep Cuts (@DeepCutsWCW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1490366065259466757?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Funniest thing was hearing Meltzer and Alvarez defend this because they’re heels, so at least the heels look stupid.

Stupid dinosaur doesn't know how to take a bump. No fault of The Elite.

Typical. I bet the Funkasaurus could have taken that bump because he was properly trained.

AEW letting untrained dinosaurs take complex bumps isn't a surprise to anyone

You do realize that Adam Cole was hand picked by Triple H himself and taken under the Heart Broken wing of HBK himself Shawn Michaels. He wouldn't just do that.

Luchadon and Omega were cut from WWE because they fucking suck though.

Bill Demott's taste isn't mine. They should have trained Luchasaurus, instead he went to Mexico and tried the flying trapeze act.

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