Yeah, I think at this point the Royal Flush Gang is kinda like DC's version of the Wrecking Crew: all-purpose jobbers with juuust enough superpowers that anyone can have a decent fight with them.

But at least they called it "Iron Man", and not something daft like "Iron". Or even "Steel". :shifty:

My only concern was a continuity one that's all. But yeah, bring 'em on. Though wait...doesn't GA have a thing for Black Canary?

I SMELL LOVE TRIANGLE!

DC has announced Tim Drake was never Robin.

He was Batman's Boy Wonder, whatever that means.


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Yeah, they announced it awhile ago.... but the Teen Titans #0 solicitation says "Focusing on the origin of Tim Drake; how a would be Olympic star and computer genius went on to become Batman’s third Robin".

So I dunno.

Tim Drake is one of my favorite characters so I hope they don't screw this up too bad.

edit: Tim Drake was a would-be Olympic star?

In the new continuity, I guess so.

This whole New 52 thing still just depresses the heck outta me. The DC Universe was so good before they rebooted it. It was in a great place.

I understand why they did it...but I still have mixed feelings about most of it.

Marvel has just as convoluted a history as DC does and they've been able to avoid reboots.

Just watched The Dark Knight Returns: Part I.

Was pretty freaking sweet.

Yeah, if you don't count the entire Ultimate universe as a reboot.

But DC should've followed that model, rather than trying to actually replace their mainstream continuity.

Can't wait for Part 2 so I can rewatch part 1 and onto 2 seamlessly as it were a 2 in half hour movie :)

that just makes Batman sound like a child molester

Here's a preview of Tim's new origin.

I don't know about this.


http://www.newsarama.com/php/multime...w.php?gid=4528

I don't know about DCnU in general.

I'm fairly certain the JL8 strips might be the best comic going today or at least those using DC or Marvel characters.

Sad but true, for me anyway.

The only DC Comics that I am current on, and try to read every month, are:

Animal Man
Swamp Thing
Aquaman
Earth 2
Worlds' Finest
Smallville Season 11

Way behind on everything else. I should catch up on Batman.

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Terrible salesman. Talking his way out of a book sale.

Louis is going to be pissed.

If I were Louis CK I'd be pissed too.

Well, here it is. DC's "Exciting" new origin of Tim (notice I didn't say Drake...there is a reason for that).

Tim was an Olympic level gymnast and computer hacker honor student. He spent his whole life trying to figure out Batman's identity. Batman got annoyed by this and told Tim he would never be Robin.

Tim, to get Batman's attention, stole 100 million dollars out of Osawld Cobblepot's account. The Penguin sent henchman to his house. Batman saves the day. Tim's parents are forced into the Witness Protection Program so the Penguin will never find them. Tim is given a new last name "Drake" and is told by Batman he will be staying with him now, per the court's orders.

Oh, and he was never Robin. He was always only Red Robin...for some reason.

Eh.

DCnU is just the longest Elseworlds story ever.

The thing I liked about the old one was that he was the one who was actively pushing the Robin thing. He SUCCEEDED in figuring out Batman's identity, and then pushed Batman into accepting him as a new Robin.... feeling that Batman needed a Robin. Unlike the other Robins, he was the active driving force behind his own origin.

I'll stick to the original Tim Drake origin.

I'm going to find the guy who came up with that stupid fucking origin and beat him to death with a hardcover copy of "A Lonely Place of Dying." I swear to God, it's like the New 52 is deliberately going out of its way to make me hate it.

Yes, it is absolutely a personal slight directed at you.

Can we just take a second to remember that it's not like everyone was super happy before the reboot? Like, imperfect though it might be, kind of can't forget the fact that before the DCNU, like every book of theirs was losing readers each month. Even the popular ones. The reboot has demonstrably boosted their sales and their audience numbers, even if it's come at the expense of a lot of things/origins/storylines/characters that some people loved. At the end of the day, it was a smart business move. That's all it is. It's not some grand conspiracy to face-fuck your childhood.

I know that. I'm well aware that DC wasn't in the best place before the reboot. That doesn't change the fact that it's a fucking terrible origin of one of my favorite characters.

Well, yes and no. It seems like Tim didn't adopt the Robin persona out of respect for the recently deceased Jason, which at least gives some reason - whether you agree with it or not - for him to have not ever officially been a Robin, shitty though it is (I feel you here man, Tim Drake was my Robin growing up).

Honestly I believe more people will remember Tim as Robin than this shitty new temporary origin.

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Terrible dialogue aside (really, Lobdell is not a good writer, but he is copping way too much flak over this whole thing considering it's probably not even his call), it's at least a justification.

The funny thing is, he was ID'ed as FORMER ROBIN or Robin in Batman #1 with one of Batman's ID scanner gizmo's.

SUPERMAN JUST STOLE THAT BOOK

And Neil just let him. Definitely a terrible salesman.