Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5483749)

The honeymoon is over

I did enjoy the Dexter Lumis/Indi Hartwell skits I watched on DVR


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NXT ranked #32 on the day on cable in the demo, according to Showbuzz Daily.</p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1443306258552041480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5483729)

So because I have no life and my gf works opposite shifts, I went and watched all the WCW Prime, Pro, Worldwide and Saturday Night comps from 96-98 on youtube.

The Power Plant guys doing jobs on these shows are SO fucking rotten.


Here's Adrian Byrd who had been wrestling for 3 years at this point. LMAO @ the finish.

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5484188)

Well I lived through the best day of NXT and that was Triple H's team so I am on Team Pedigree. Someone needs to cut the wires on the next elevator ride that Vince and Kevin Dunn share together.

Originally Posted by Skeletor (Post 5484106)

I vaguely remember watching a Network special where Shane McMahon was very reserved in terms of what he wanted to share about Triple H. Something along the lines of he makes Stephanie happy and that's all that matters.

Originally Posted by Skeletor (Post 5484106)

he makes Stephanie happy and that's all that matters.

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5484413)

Juice Robinson put a ring on Toni Storm.

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5484691)

Amazing how simultaneously WWE looks like 50x better than AEW in terms of production (lighting, camera colours, sound), and worse (due to having that better look but then ruining it via frantic camera moves/cuts/zooms)

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5484689)

A single german suplex is now enough to keep someone down for a few minutes.

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5484691)

Amazing how simultaneously WWE looks like 50x better than AEW in terms of production (lighting, camera colours, sound), and worse (due to having that better look but then ruining it via frantic camera moves/cuts/zooms)

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5484687)

Random thought of the day, how was an inverted atomic drop never considered to be a low blow? :wtf:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 5484747)

Targets the tailbone, not the groin.

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5484687)

Random thought of the day, how was an inverted atomic drop never considered to be a low blow? :wtf:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5484846)

Wonder if Chad Gable leaves WWE? If he sticks around, what are they going to do with his name? You can’t have Chad Gable around when Gable Steveson shows up. My bet is that he goes by Chad Alpha or something. I hope Vince doesn’t get a hold on his last name being Betts and goes with Alpha Betts as a ring name.

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5484884)

ROH would be dumb to even consider that idea considering WWE's recent track record with partnerships and potential partnerships has been awful for the other side.

EVOLVE had that type pf talent exchange with NXT and they got burned badly with it in the long run.

NJPW saw through that idea and realized a partnership with WWE was just going to open the door to WWE snagging their big name stars a lot more easier than before.

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5484896)

They will change Stevenson to Steven Gable to and have him and Chad be half or step brothers.

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5484897)

Lol, this is the mindless internet spin. WWE will be excellent partners when the relationship is beneficial to them.

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5484464)

New Host of "Talking Smack" and "Raw Talk" Jackie Redmond. She was on the same station and Renee Paquette (The Score/Sportsnet 360). She'll do a good job. She hosted a bunch of Wrestling Shows on those stations with Jimmy Korderas so she has product knowledge.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE welcomes <a href="https://twitter.com/Jackie_Redmond?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Jackie_Redmond</a> as new co-host of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RawTalk?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RawTalk</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TalkingSmack?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TalkingSmack</a>!<a href="https://t.co/NlrvblGpa3">https://t.co/NlrvblGpa3</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1443944036721639438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5484931)

CMLL - https://cultaholic.com/posts/wwe-rep...ed-to-buy-cmll , https://www.itnwwe.com/wrestling/wwe...s-wwe-network/

Stardom - https://411mania.com/wrestling/more-...o-buy-stardom/

Pro Wrestling NOAH - https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...or-new-660807/

I'd go on but I'm currently very busying with a report for the Frontpage that's going to take way more time to finish.

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5484954)

This isn’t information. This is opinion. THIS is my issue with the shit you post. It isn’t fact-based. It’s based on supposition you regurgitate as fact to prove a point you cannot prove otherwise.

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5484960)

:|

So providing links as potential evidence now no longer counts as being possible information or facts.

Do you know how stupid your post sounds.

Nevermind, don't bother responding since its just going to lead to more headaches on my end.

I legit don't know why I keep bothering hanging around this place since you keep making it be a miserable experience with all the nonsense and shit attitude you've had in recent years.

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5484960)

:|

So providing links as potential evidence now no longer counts as being possible information or facts.

Do you know how stupid your post sounds.

Nevermind, don't bother responding since its just going to lead to more headaches on my end.

I legit don't know why I keep bothering hanging around this place since you keep making it be a miserable experience with all the nonsense and shit attitude you've had in recent years.

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5485030)

Noid coming off very trumpy. Everybody is wrong, things aren’t good anymore and facts and reports no longer matter if they don’t fit a narrative. Hmmmmm….

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5485102)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karl Gotch's comments on Harley Race from 1990 are every Nick Jackson/Shawn Michaels exchange currently going on on this app. <a href="https://t.co/WrfKXf4oa1">pic.twitter.com/WrfKXf4oa1</a></p>&mdash; Andy H. Murray (@andyhmurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/andyhmurray/status/1445094855579942916?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5485033)

and reading, or maybe that's just my inner yank thinking about trying to read.






edit: i dunno what happened here. think maybe i didnt read all the new posts.


so tired.

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5484910)

How is it "mindless internet spin" when that's what happened to all of their partners and would-be partners in recent years.

Partial list:

EVOLVE - Talent exchange of sorts that got worse for EVOLVE the longer their partnership with WWE lasted. WWE got to use any of EVOLVE's top stars whenever they wanted while the biggest name EVOLVE got to use on a regular basis was Kona Reeves. Got hit with the poison pill clause the moment WWE didn't bother to help them out early into the coronavirus pandemic and owner Gabriel Sapolsky pulling an ECW era Paul Heyman by bailing on the company the moment he got a job within WWE secured.

Stardom - Would have shut down and been absorbed into NXT Japan had they signed a partnership deal.

Pro Wrestling NOAH - Same fate as Stardom had they signed a partnership deal.

PROGRESS Wrestling - Talent exchange that was just as one-sided as EVOLVE's was but with the add caveat of WWE treating them worse than their actual rival in the UK, RevPro Wrestling. Not even AEW got treated as bad by WWE as what they did with PROGRESS pre-pandemic.

Rest of WWE's UK & European partners - All have poison pill terms in their partnership deals so WWE can buy out their companies in the end. If EVOLVE is any indication, WWE will just sit back when those companies are in very dire financial situations and just pick up some really cheap libraries and talent instead of maintaining a healthy relationship that would be beneficial to their partners.

Impact Wrestling - Never actually wanted a partnership. Just wanted their library and would have shut down the company had a deal been signed.

NJPW - Would have led to the end of all of their partnerships in the US and likely the end of their US expansion plans. Some rumblings that NJPW World might have been merged into WWE Network as part of the terms. Talent exchange that would have been very one sided and was speculated from those in Japan to just be WWE's way of getting easy access to top NJPW talent so they could sign them up later and get rid of the biggest rival for their NXT expansion into Japan.

CMLL - Similar type deal as NJPW that would have seen the end of all of their partnerships and just an easy way for WWE to snag CMLL's top talent and get rid of one of the two big rivals for a potential NXT Mexico.

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5485033)

and reading, or maybe that's just my inner yank thinking about trying to read.

edit: i dunno what happened here. think maybe i didnt read all the new posts.

so tired.

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5485107)

Smeat said ROH would be dumb to work with WWE in response to a hypothetical I posted. His basis for this? His opinion because WWE bad. He then provided a list of “bad partnerships” that never actually happened. They just would have been bad if they had, because WWE bad. And everyone is saying he posts facts because it’s easier than, once again, admitting that Noid was right.

Don’t believe me?

EVOLVE: Got plenty out of the WWE deal. Probably lent on WWE because of bad financial position. The promoter was also working for WWE and basically sold it off to them. This one happened. Is only bad if you wanted EVOLVE to continue to exist as its own entity.

STARDOM: This never happened. STARDOM still exists and never had a partnership with WWE. “They would have been absorbed into NXT Japan” is complete speculative fiction.

NOAH: The same fiction. There were bullshit rumors about the WWE looking to purchase them, because WWE loves acquiring Yakuza fronts. This wasn’t even rumored to be a partnership. And it NEVER HAPPENED. How can you call something that didn’t happen a fact? Or information. If my uncle had bought out Subway they wouldn’t make sandwiches anymore. So not a sandwich shop.

PROGRESS: Small-time British promotion that was basically acquired by WWE, right? UK’s scene madly inflated by newsletter peddlers trying to insist some sort of insurgence. The same people will say that Australia is hot. NO ONE gives a fuck about wrestling here. If PROGRESS had more to offer, it may have been more valuable. But “talent exchanges” that allow a company to stay afloat for longer than it should aren’t exactly a bad thing. Unless you’re expecting the main event of WrestleMania to be sent and a struggling promotion to stay alive based off that.

UK & Europe: So you admit it? These places need WWE more than they can actually offer assistance to them in a lot of cases. These places are staying off execution in many cases. WWE buying them when they can’t stay in business is...business? What is your major issue with this?

TNA: Didn’t happen. Also, TNA has been dead for years. The only thing slightly valuable about them would be lending WWE footage of some guys pre-WWE. Basically Joe and Styles.

New Japan: Another thing that didn’t happen and another case of “would have.” WWE has access to top New Japan talent. They have the opportunity to sign them when their deals are up like anyone else. New Japan World being part of the WWE Network would have been awesome for them. Way more exposure on Peacock now too.

CMLL: Didn’t happen. Also, isn’t this promotion basically dead? So when they’re on their last legs and work with WWE, it’s WWE’s fault. When they don’t work with WWE? WWE’s fault. Seriously, what is even your point?

So, out of a list of facts and information designed to prove that WWE are horrible partners, only two of the promotions you actually named worked with WWE. EVOLVE and Progress. Of those two, it’s a matter of perspective as to whether or not this has been “bad” or not. These promotions may not have lasted anywhere near as long as they did without WWE.

Guys, I’ve got evidence that vaccines don’t work. I know a scientist, right? They didn’t invent a vaccine. They got some water in a syringe. But because that didn’t work, vaccines don’t work. You’d have to be an idiot to get a vaccine.

This is literally the line of logic being played here. It’s not even just made-up evidence—it’s made up off the back of scenarios that never even happened.

WWE didn’t purchase NOAH, or CMLL, or TNA. You can’t just say that they tried and count it. But hey, here on TPWW that’s just “news.” What a steaming pile of crap. And y’all know it.

Smeat isn’t reporting the news. He’s taking whatever rumor is running, without citation, and throws it out there without any critical thinking. I used to be softer on this sort of stuff, because in a business of rumor and jealous perspectives, you’re going to end up reporting on what you heard from a shit-kicker somewhere. Someone with a gripe somewhere.

But the issue is when you take that word from the shit-kicker as gospel. Which Smeat does do. WWE was planning to go on a tour clubbing baby seals and spitting on sick puppies? Of course they were. This is fact now. Someone asks if they’re good with pets and it’s “No! Remember the seal clubbing!” It never happened.

Smeat takes it further, because it’s not just bad faith in WWE. That would be understandable. He will post stories that can be dismissed by simply reading them then thinking about them. He does this ALL the time. No, he doesn’t write the stories. Some other dude looking to squeeze a buck out of the naive does. But you can at least be responsible in checking to see if you’re helping someone prey on others or not.

At least Smeat does take their bullshit from behind paywalls and gets in the way of them making a buck. But that’s not why he does it. It’s just an unintentional side effect of stealing others’ “work.” Which in too many easy-to-detect cases is just someone throwing whatever shit they can out there.

And, to be honest, it’s pretty gutless and irresponsible to post things you know are lies, but to then just stick your hands up and say “I’m just posting what I read.” And I know you actually do believe what you read, so it’s others doing that on your behalf really. But seriously dude — think about the difference between fact and opinion, and when you read that Tony Khan saved a bus full of orphans that Vince McMahon catapulted a flaming ball of rock at, just maybe think about whether or not it came from “AEW Newz” this week.

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5485116)

Sir, this is a Wendys...

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5485116)

nah man, like i quite honestly feel like i was reading a different post in a different thread and formed that reply, but im quite out of it today.


i don't care about your whatever it is you have with smeat. smeat reports what he finds from the wrasslin newswires, rumors and all. this occurs in any industry.

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5485105)

I’m glad I haven’t seen any of these “Nick Jackson/Shawn Michaels exchanges.”

Just seeing those two names next to each other... I can’t bite my tongue hard enough.

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5472375)

Taking the absolute biggest break from wrestling that I ever have in my life. It was probably the thing I loved most. People don’t get it and say “wah, wah, wah — don’t watch then.” Well, it’s finally happening. Fuck wrestling.

Fuck AEW.
Fuck WWE.
Fuck the NWA.
Fuck New Japan.
Fuck classic wrestling.

It’s been easier than I suspect. I’ve checked the news a couple of times and listened to some Cornette YouTube clips (not his full show, I’m even off criticism of wrestling). I think I might be properly done soon.

Thanks for the memories, wrestling. You got me through some weird times growing up. But it’s time I realized you haven’t been good to me in a long, long time. Fuck off and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

The WWE surely gets a lot of the blame, but AEW was it for me. I just can’t. The self-indulgent disregard of there being any sort of art to this. The complete waste of potential. I went from being optimistic about wrestling to seeing so clearly that this is not going to be something a reasonable person can enjoy in record time.

So a special big fuck you to AEW for that. And also fuck TPWW for housing some of the most insecure and gormless little marks. I was right when I said WWE sucked way back, and I am right when I say AEW sucks right now.

I’m off to read some books or something.

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5485115)

I have taken the absolute biggest break from watching wrestling ever. Can’t remember the last show I actually watched. Probably highlights from SmackDown or something. I watched an individual clip from Dynamite, which was an awkward promo between Omega and Danielson where they kept saying “shit.”

Not very good anymore. And it doesn’t seem to be getting better.

And with all that, I’m still one of the most valuable posters here. Keeping the job squad in line and making sure people’s bad takes don’t get past without a scalding.

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5485278)

Do any of us have any insight as to what is fact and fiction? No. He is reporting what sticks behind paywalls and also what the "industry news sites / whatever" are reporting as news. This is the way any reporting works, and the same methodology any reporter uses, doubly so in the entertainment industry.


I don't see Smeat going around saying "THIS IS 100% VERIFIABLE FACT!!! FUCKING FIGHT ME!". In fact, he's made MANY "correction" posts when information becomes available that may invalidate something he posted earlier.



Rather, he reports the news which he finds and posts it. If it doesn't fit your narrative or whatever, you take issue with HIM and not the actual source of the news. As much as smeetzsheetz.com should be an awesome website, it isn't his.


It would be like getting pissed off at the news anchor for reading whats on the teleprompter, or watching a news channel you dislike just so you can scream at it. Go for the source if you actually give a damn like you say. THEY are the ones throwing out "misinformation".

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5484921)

Guess so these days if it goes against whatever views or preconceived notions one might have towards wrestling.

Same for something that gets dismissed as being truthful suddenly becomes the truth if it fits into whatever narrative someone has about it. Doesn't matter if nothing about the actual matter or issue changed. Ratings talk being the biggest example of it around here.

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5484960)

:|

So providing links as potential evidence now no longer counts as being possible information or facts.

Do you know how stupid your post sounds.

Nevermind, don't bother responding since its just going to lead to more headaches on my end.

I legit don't know why I keep bothering hanging around this place since you keep making it be a miserable experience with all the nonsense and shit attitude you've had in recent years.

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5485521)

Gerald Brisco and JBL's new podcast is a ton of fun.

It's called "Stories with Brisco and Bradshaw"

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5485532)

Bradshaw can talk. Does Gerry sound sharp?

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5485528)

What do they go on about?

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5485532)

Bradshaw can talk. Does Gerry sound sharp?