Originally Posted by XL (Post 5457734)

That Vince/Creative didn’t “get” Aleister Black and couldn’t find something decent for him to do is insane. A dude that looks like that, who walks to the ring and kicks people’s faces off. You don’t even really need to try. There’s an almost never-ending list of guys that could be/could have been more than they were in WWE. They look back and laugh at WCW for letting go a “Stunning” Steve Austin. You think he even gets the chance to become “Stone Cold” in this era?

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 5457943)

Ryback jobbing to Henry at 29 (and clean, no less, if I recall), was absolutely retarded. BUT, damn that next night when he came out and attacked Cena, the crowd were hot for that! I remember not knowing if it was a heel turn or just a "he's had enough and he's gunning for the champ" kinda thing, but it was awesome!

Of course... that was as good as it got for Ryback.

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5457769)

The Fuck did I do??? :rofl:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5457912)

Ryback was as much a victim of bad timing as anything else. Vince was dead set on giving us to Rock vs. Cena 2 for the WWE Title. And nothing was going to stop him. Not CM Punk finding his groove as the top heel in the company. Not Cena get injured. And certainly NOT some guy getting over in the midcard.

The biggest problem for Vince at that time was, there was no one else who could have stepped into the role of Cena at that point. And, as over as the Ryback was, he wasn't mentally ready for that moment. In a year's time, he may have been. But they needed an opponent for Punk, and no one else was credible at that point (I think at the time I called it 'Cena Uber Alles' booking). So, they had to take the guy gunning for the mid card belt and get him ready to face the World Champion.

Then, they had to do this in a themed pay per view, which required it to be in a Hell in a Cell match. So, they had to show him lose, but in a way that didn't make him look weak. That leads to the next month, and with Cena thrown in the mix, as well. This is where the really bad timing REALLY comes into effect. They need a reason to make him lose in a ladder match and not look weak again. This time, they debut 3 guys to cost him the match. Those 3 guys just so happened to all be guys you could build a company around. So they have to look credible. How do you make them look credible? They have to beat people. Who did they beat more than anyone else? Ryback. What do you call a big world beater who can't beat the world? A loser. They would have been better off not putting him in that spot at al.

What messed Ryback up the most happened before even Hell in a Cell. They needed a big powerful man doing big powerful things. Ryback was the big powerful man. But he couldn't lift up Tensai. And that kind of made him look bad. Oddly enough, a not so big powerful man (which is a crazy way to describe a man who is 6'5" and 232 lbs.) did a big powerful thing that same night. One of them is getting trolled to retire endlessly. The other has been a mainstay in the company since then, he's not a top guy, either. However, Cesaro can and has been used in several roles and made them work.

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5457983)

I know he was a huge muscle-bound dude but.... I always found him too short/small to be taken seriously as a "monster". Plus all that stuff with not being able to lift some of the bigger dudes

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5457982)

Nobody wants to sign Ryback. He's insane. I never cared for.him outside of the few 6 man tags he was apart of at one time with the likes of Braun, Punk, and The Sheild.

Originally Posted by RP (Post 5461171)

Cesaro has been released.

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5461172)

Fandango’s about to be 40. I don’t give a fuck though. If AEW doesn’t snatch him up and make him the face of the company after WWE wasted the prime of the next Hulk Hogan, WWE wins. This is your chance, Tony Khan.

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5461187)

Arturo Ruas
Marina Shafir
Curt Stallion

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5461185)

I have no idea what Sean means by this

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think that today's releases will have ramifications for WWE in about six months.</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Voice Over Work (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1408517862122213386?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by erickman (Post 5461190)

are those 3 205 guys

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5461194)

Killian Dane released

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5461201)

Let’s all take this time to remember the microcosm of WWE’s wildly out of touch ways that occurred when Fandango’s theme song started to go viral and WWE tried to take control of it by sending Jerry Lawler out to basically be like “This groovy tune is sweeping the nation, huh youngsters?!”, immediately sucking any joy out of it.