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drave 02-11-2021 04:02 PM

Loved his sells

drave 02-11-2021 04:04 PM

He and HBK are the two I remember would sell the whip into the turnbuckle by flipping over the top rope and down to the outside.

Gerard 02-11-2021 05:19 PM

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Emperor Smeat 02-11-2021 06:22 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE with some unfortunate, yet hilarious logo placement on the Network website ����<br><br>Looks like <a href="https://twitter.com/DMcIntyreWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DMcIntyreWWE</a> is having a bit too much fun behind there! <a href="https://t.co/FQfStwL45p">pic.twitter.com/FQfStwL45p</a></p>&mdash; GiveMeSport WWE &amp; Wrestling (@GMS_WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/GMS_WWE/status/1359472187145523200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Gerard 02-12-2021 03:59 PM

https://i.imgur.com/fHDyFUQ.jpg

Never realised he had an open casket with people taking pics.

Black Widow 02-12-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5425284)
https://i.imgur.com/fHDyFUQ.jpg

Never realised he had an open casket with people taking pics.

Is it real? Looks a little photoshopped to me.

Bad News Gertner 02-12-2021 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5424898)

The fact that Curt was shitfaced drunk during this match because he was in so much pain due to his back and still put on a performance like that is incredible.

Gerard 02-12-2021 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5425289)
Is it real? Looks a little photoshopped to me.

Supposedly so,

Volare 02-12-2021 05:11 PM

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Emperor Smeat 02-12-2021 05:39 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The best <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Spinebuster?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Spinebuster</a> you see belongs to ______. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WAMWednesday?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WAMWednesday</a> <a href="https://t.co/Sfwo5uhTto">pic.twitter.com/Sfwo5uhTto</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1359562861379395587?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner 02-12-2021 05:43 PM

Out of those I'd say Triple H

Supreme Olajuwon 02-12-2021 06:24 PM

Someone said spinebuster I get to post the gif

http://i.imgur.com/o6GHjDP.gif

Bad News Gertner 02-12-2021 06:25 PM

Exactly

Lock Jaw 02-12-2021 06:26 PM

Yeah, thought the same thing

Bad News Gertner 02-12-2021 06:27 PM

Listened to The Kurt Angle Show with Conrad Thompson. Same tired format. The first show just dropped Sunday so I'll have to give it more of a chance, but as of right now I don't see it making my rotation

And there's an open spot with the Jay and Dan Podcast being done (probably only Canadians will know that one)

Lock Jaw 02-12-2021 06:29 PM

Changing my answer to Ron Simmons due to that little pause he gives before unceremoniously slamming them down with a look of disdain that screams "DAMN!"

Supreme Olajuwon 02-12-2021 07:20 PM

I’ve watched that Arn spinebuster a thousand times and I’ve never noticed Tully going ham in the corner.

Supreme Olajuwon 02-12-2021 07:27 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheArnShow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheArnShow</a> - nobody else comes close... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ArnAnderson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ArnAnderson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Spinebuster?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Spinebuster</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WAMWednesday?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WAMWednesday</a> <a href="https://t.co/i2Rep2uhXP">pic.twitter.com/i2Rep2uhXP</a></p>&mdash; Raphael Wilson (@089968Raph__) <a href="https://twitter.com/089968Raph__/status/1359564466426421253?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

With sound is so much better

Mr. Nerfect 02-12-2021 07:35 PM

Arn is the best. I’d follow that with Ron. Triple H actually did do a nice one though. All the others look too soft/assisted.

Actually, Mercedes doesn’t do a bad one.

slik 02-12-2021 07:37 PM

During record profits and right after the billion dollar peacock deal....smh


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: WWE Informs Employees They Will Not Be Giving Raises Or Bonuses<a href="https://t.co/TECRjMpWaO">https://t.co/TECRjMpWaO</a></p>&mdash; Ringside News (@ringsidenews_) <a href="https://twitter.com/ringsidenews_/status/1360370986000990209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just got a text from a source in St. Pete... the unhappiness and straight up anger backstage is at an all time high level. Everyone from the boys to the road crew are pissed off. Not a good look.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1360381315858710534?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 02-12-2021 07:52 PM

Wonder if its related to them announcing construction work on their new HQ is going to resume soon and the backlash from investors ever since they found out how much money WWE blew on the ThunderDome.

WWE stocks have been getting hammered since last week's fiscal report due to investors blaming ThunderDome costs for why WWE posted lower than expected revenues.

slik 02-13-2021 03:00 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dave, in all seriousness. You need professional help. Talk to someone you are close to and seek it out. <a href="https://t.co/hINTQuDFlj">https://t.co/hINTQuDFlj</a></p>&mdash; Eric Bischoff (@EBischoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/EBischoff/status/1359325929411989508?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

erickman 02-13-2021 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5425409)
Wonder if its related to them announcing construction work on their new HQ is going to resume soon and the backlash from investors ever since they found out how much money WWE blew on the ThunderDome.

WWE stocks have been getting hammered since last week's fiscal report due to investors blaming ThunderDome costs for why WWE posted lower than expected revenues.

i figered that thunder dome was a dumb idea all they needed was fake crowd noise to cover the noisy ring mat sound.

Volare 02-13-2021 08:28 AM

Nice story to start the morning off right.

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Jordan 02-13-2021 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5425590)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dave, in all seriousness. You need professional help. Talk to someone you are close to and seek it out. <a href="https://t.co/hINTQuDFlj">https://t.co/hINTQuDFlj</a></p>&mdash; Eric Bischoff (@EBischoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/EBischoff/status/1359325929411989508?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't believe a thing Bischoff says. I think he has a potheads selective memory. He is not a borderline autistic like Dave who remembers more about WCW than Bischoff ever forgot.

Evil Vito 02-13-2021 10:47 AM

https://ringthedamnbell.files.wordpr...ggan.jpg?w=670

Bad News Gertner 02-13-2021 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5425616)
I don't believe a thing Bischoff says. I think he has a potheads selective memory. He is not a borderline autistic like Dave who remembers more about WCW than Bischoff ever forgot.

Yeah no kidding.

I love that the three main wrestling personalities that go after Dave are Prichard, Bischoff and Russo who haven't told one truth combined.

Gerard 02-13-2021 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5425616)
I don't believe a thing Bischoff says. I think he has a potheads selective memory. He is not a borderline autistic like Dave who remembers more about WCW than Bischoff ever forgot.

Eric "I don't recall" Bischoff. Just about anything he's interviewed about that might be in any way slightly controversial that's his go to line.

slik 02-13-2021 06:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How’s your hole doing <a href="https://twitter.com/NiaJaxWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NiaJaxWWE</a> ☺️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/wwesmackdown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#wwesmackdown</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEChamber?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEChamber</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/XymLHId5lz">pic.twitter.com/XymLHId5lz</a></p>&mdash; CJ “Lana” Perry (@LanaWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanaWWE/status/1360456976954765317?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 02-13-2021 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5425401)
During record profits and right after the billion dollar peacock deal....smh


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: WWE Informs Employees They Will Not Be Giving Raises Or Bonuses<a href="https://t.co/TECRjMpWaO">https://t.co/TECRjMpWaO</a></p>&mdash; Ringside News (@ringsidenews_) <a href="https://twitter.com/ringsidenews_/status/1360370986000990209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just got a text from a source in St. Pete... the unhappiness and straight up anger backstage is at an all time high level. Everyone from the boys to the road crew are pissed off. Not a good look.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1360381315858710534?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

According to PWI, this was directly related to them posting lower than expected numbers from their recent fiscal quarter. For some reference, WWE missed hitting their expected revenues by around $7 million and expected profits by around $12 million.

Also something high level executives had been discussing to do in the weeks leading up to the report's release.

Mr. Nerfect 02-13-2021 07:27 PM

How sad is it that a woman screaming “My hole!” has legitimately been the most interesting thing in wrestling in ages?

Emperor Smeat 02-13-2021 08:01 PM

Fightful reporting that WWE signed notable indie wrestler Blake Christian to a contract.

Would explain the recent Title vs. Career match he had in GCW that seemed to come out of nowhere when it was announced.

Also fits with reports of WWE going right back to their old hoarding ways in recent weeks and Triple H teasing this upcoming new class for the Performance Center features the most female wrestlers ever signed for a single class.

Mr. Nerfect 02-13-2021 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5425590)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dave, in all seriousness. You need professional help. Talk to someone you are close to and seek it out. <a href="https://t.co/hINTQuDFlj">https://t.co/hINTQuDFlj</a></p>&mdash; Eric Bischoff (@EBischoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/EBischoff/status/1359325929411989508?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I can’t believe that in an argument between Eric Bischoff and Dave Meltzer I am siding with Eric Bischoff.

Mr. Nerfect 02-13-2021 11:43 PM

Lol, New Japan is working with TNA. Any respect I had for them is out the window.

Fuck wrestling sucks.

Emperor Smeat 02-13-2021 11:54 PM

That's nothing new.

They've been working together to a small degree since late last year.

Mr. Nerfect 02-14-2021 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5425813)
That's nothing new.

They've been working together to a small degree since late last year.

They’re not just booking a guy for a nothing tournament. The degree is getting larger.

Emperor Smeat 02-14-2021 12:37 AM

Super J-Cup is not a nothing tournament. Just doesn't get held that often since its more of a showcase tournament than annual one prior to its recent revival.

Last year's tournament is what got Impact and NJPW to start mending their years-long broken relationship.

Not like you'd care anyways since you felt it was super important to tell everyone how NJPW is now on your shit list all because of a simple announcement of a couple of their guys showing up soon on Impact.

Mr. Nerfect 02-14-2021 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5425828)
Super J-Cup is not a nothing tournament. Just doesn't get held that often since its more of a showcase tournament than annual one prior to its recent revival.

Last year's tournament is what got Impact and NJPW to start mending their years-long broken relationship.

Not like you'd care anyways since you felt it was super important to tell everyone how NJPW is now on your shit list all because of a simple announcement of a couple of their guys showing up soon on Impact.

They’re working with TNA. It’s nothing now.

Emperor Smeat 02-14-2021 01:03 AM

That's some dumb reasoning.

DaveWadding 02-14-2021 03:59 AM

Have a new Saturday night tradition where the first thing I do is watch a match I haven't seen that doesn't sound like it will disappoint me. Last wee I watched Omega / Fenix from New Years, this week I'm going for Ishii / Shibata from WK10.

GD 02-14-2021 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5425812)
Lol, New Japan is working with TNA. Any respect I had for them is out the window.

Fuck wrestling sucks.

I don’t know why this moron got nominated for the Spammies. He clearly doesn’t follow any product intimately and spouts nonsense to garner a reaction. If your argument is that he’s good at trolling and getting posters riled up, that ship sailed a long time ago. You’re beating a dead horse and even the carcass has dried up now. He adds nothing to the overall discussion. He’s toxic and has no redeemable qualities. How sad is your life that you have to come to a wrestling board and be a classless joker?

Mr. Nerfect 02-14-2021 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5425843)
That's some dumb reasoning.

Why? I don’t want to watch TNA or anything associated with TNA.

Bad News Gertner 02-14-2021 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeletor (Post 5425863)
I don’t know why this moron got nominated for the Spammies. He clearly doesn’t follow any product intimately and spouts nonsense to garner a reaction. If your argument is that he’s good at trolling and getting posters riled up, that ship sailed a long time ago. You’re beating a dead horse and even the carcass has dried up now. He adds nothing to the overall discussion. He’s toxic and has no redeemable qualities. How sad is your life that you have to come to a wrestling board and be a classless joker?

Noid and xrod should have been co-winners. Only ones spittin the truth

GD 02-14-2021 11:57 AM

Oh please! Will you stop!

Evil Vito 02-14-2021 12:45 PM

https://i.imgur.com/gqpnocz.png

Well then.

Emperor Smeat 02-14-2021 02:01 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 02-14-2021 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5425871)
Noid and xrod should have been co-winners. Only ones spittin the truth

I don’t nominate myself. I didn’t even know I was nominated. Glad it upset Dave though. And it doesn’t make the truth any less true.

GD 02-14-2021 02:11 PM

You do understand that the posters who nominated you weren't necessarily being sincere, right? They're doing it ironically because you're a shit stirrer. There are actual good posters here and then there are sad fucks such as yourself.

Mr. Nerfect 02-14-2021 03:28 PM

Lol, New Japan are completely whoring themselves out like it was 2011 all over again. For shame, Gedo. For shame.

Emperor Smeat 02-14-2021 04:09 PM

Taya Valkryie reportedly recently signed a deal with WWE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWI
Taya Valkyrie, the longest reigning Impact Wrestling Knockouts Champion in history, has signed with WWE for the NXT brand, PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple sources. She is expected to be part of the next announced class of signings. Last week, Paul Levesque touted that the next class of signings will have the largest quotient of female talents to date. Taya was at this past Wednesday's NXT TV taping.

Unless NXT is doing a wave of callups very soon, their Women's division is about to become even more bloated now. They already have more than SD and RAW's divisions combined last I checked.

Gerard 02-14-2021 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5425903)
<blockquote class="reddit-card" data-card-created="1613329217"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/ldn99w/that_time_kurt_angle_angleslammed_mae_young_and/">That time Kurt Angle Angle-Slammed Mae Young and celebrated like he won the 96 Olympics all over again</a> from <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle">r/SquaredCircle</a></blockquote>
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I like how JR couldn't remember the name of the Olympic Slam :lol:

Bad News Gertner 02-14-2021 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeletor (Post 5425908)
You do understand that the posters who nominated you weren't necessarily being sincere, right? They're doing it ironically because you're a shit stirrer. There are actual good posters here and then there are sad fucks such as yourself.

How dare you

Bad News Gertner 02-14-2021 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5425960)
I like how JR couldn't remember the name of the Olympic Slam :lol:

I wonder if it's a weird WWE thing where they didn't want the word "Olympic" associated with slamming an 80 year old woman. Weren't they still doing stuff with the Special Olympics

Bad News Gertner 02-14-2021 07:19 PM

Word got out that Tom Cole who was part of the Ring Boy scandal killed himself a few days ago. Far and away the worst shit Vince ever did.

Mr. Nerfect 02-15-2021 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5426052)
Word got out that Tom Cole who was part of the Ring Boy scandal killed himself a few days ago. Far and away the worst shit Vince ever did.

That absolutely sucks. I heard a podcast about the scandal in December. Absolutely crazy shit.

I couldn’t help but think about the names of some of their announcers: Michael Cole, Tom Phillips. I’d like to think that is just a coincidence. But neither are those guys’ real names. Of all the possible names, you choose Cole and Phillips and even let an announcer call himself “Tom Phillips.” Like, if that was Tom Hannifan’s suggestion, someone should have caught that.

Mr. Nerfect 02-15-2021 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5426029)
How dare you

Hahaha, thanks for quoting that. Lol, I didn’t even know I was nominated for a Spammy. Why the fuck is this goober acting like I give a shit? Someone’s feelings got hurt.

Kiss my feet, Dave. They won’t kiss you back, but you’ll feel like the luckiest bitch in the world.

Mr. Nerfect 02-15-2021 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5426033)
I wonder if it's a weird WWE thing where they didn't want the word "Olympic" associated with slamming an 80 year old woman. Weren't they still doing stuff with the Special Olympics

I remember the Olympics wanted them to stop calling it that at some point. It’s why it became the “Angle Slam.” I don’t doubt that something like this would have gotten in the way.

GD 02-15-2021 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5426285)
Hahaha, thanks for quoting that. Lol, I didn’t even know I was nominated for a Spammy. Why the fuck is this goober acting like I give a shit? Someone’s feelings got hurt.

Kiss my feet, Dave. They won’t kiss you back, but you’ll feel like the luckiest bitch in the world.

lol...I just saw this post. I encourage posters to quote my posts so you can view them. Such a snowflake :roll:

Gerard 02-15-2021 02:06 PM

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A lionsault, or lionflop in this case is now a powerbomb.

Big Vic 02-15-2021 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeletor (Post 5426336)
lol...I just saw this post. I encourage posters to quote my posts so you can view them. Such a snowflake :roll:


Mr. Nerfect 02-15-2021 03:25 PM

Chris Jericho needs to hang them up. He’s fucking done.

Emperor Smeat 02-15-2021 04:56 PM

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Gerard 02-15-2021 05:12 PM

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Bad News Gertner 02-15-2021 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5426549)
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Lol I've got so many comments about this video. These guys are all in my wheelhouse

Scott Casey later went on to become a gigolo ala Buff Bagwell

Pete Doherty had a more successful run in 79-80 ish as the Golden Terror and was managed by Lou Albano. I remember his beating Haku out of nowhere in like 1989

I remember Sivi AFI getting booed out of MSG in his debut because they made it look like Jimmy Snuka was returning

Conan Chris Walker's issue was he was too short

A lot of these guys made more money working lower card matches in the WWF than they did in higher profile runs in smaller territories.

Emperor Smeat 02-15-2021 06:08 PM

I mostly posted the video because the guy in the thumbnail having a great looking wrestling mustache.

Also thought WWE's Golden Era started a few years earlier than their starting point of 1986/1987 but they consider the early years of Hulkamania to be its own thing.

Bad News Gertner 02-15-2021 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5426564)
I mostly posted the video because the guy in the thumbnail having a great looking wrestling mustache.

Also thought WWE's Golden Era started a few years earlier than their starting point of 1986/1987.


haha yeah Big Bully Busick's stache was epic.

Yeah I would adjust it to 1984ish, but the company didn't have a lot of guys coming in and out so fast prior to 1986. Guys like Buzz Sawyer were rare. They did have a few legends at the end of their career work House Shows in the areas they had success in like Mad Dog Vachon/the Crusher in Minnesota and Mr. Wrestling II in the South, but they didn't make weekly T.V's

Emperor Smeat 02-15-2021 06:44 PM

That makes sense for pushing back the start of the Golden Era by a couple of years.

That reasoning also fits with how many people consider 1997 to be the start of the Attitude Era instead of 1995/1996 since 97 is when the era really kicks in and the flow of memorable guys and stars in the company.

Bad News Gertner 02-15-2021 06:52 PM

You hear a lot of people say WrestleMania 1 was the start of the "Golden Era", partially because WWE has conditioned fans that way.

I would say the Iron Sheik beating Backlund in December 1983 was the start of the Golden Era. Mid 83-Wrestlemania 1 is soooo interesting to learn about.

Emperor Smeat 02-15-2021 08:11 PM

Turns out Vince's recent edict on talent not being allowed to have accounts or deals with outside third party services is even more stricter than previously assumed.

They recently expanded the ban list to include Twitter and Instagram in regards to tweets and posts promoting third party stuff and not even charities are excluded from the ban.

Just like with Twitch and Cameo, WWE is also now claiming ownership of their talent's social media accounts.

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Originally Posted by WrestlingInc
WWE is issuing “violations” to talent for tweets or Instagram posts naming any third party business, person, brand or charity, Wrestling Inc. has learned.

Wrestling Inc. has learned that the violations start with a warning, then a fine, and finally suspension. The company is claiming ownership of talent Twitter and Instagram accounts via a clause in their contracts that grants WWE the exclusive use of their likeness.

It has been made clear to talent who have complained that the current “flexibility” allowed in social media could be retracted by the company.

We first reported last September that Vince McMahon issued an edict stating that talent can no longer use platforms like Cameo and Twitch. Zelina Vega was released from the company last November due to fallout from her continuing to use platforms like Twitch and OnlyFans.

A recent study from LoveUX revealed how lucrative these social media posts. Their study estimated that Lana earned $625,922 off 59 sponsored posts in 2020 ($10,608 per post), while Mandy Rose garnered an estimated $490,104 off 71 sponsored posts ($6,902 per post).


Volare 02-15-2021 08:23 PM

Rut ro.

Nicky Fives 02-15-2021 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5426670)
Turns out Vince's recent edict on talent not being allowed to have accounts or deals with outside third party services is even more stricter than previously assumed.

They recently expanded the ban list to include Twitter and Instagram in regards to tweets and posts promoting third party stuff and not even charities are excluded from the ban.

Just like with Twitch and Cameo, WWE is also now claiming ownership of their talent's social media accounts.

Those $$ figures cannot be real.... Why would anyone choose to work for a company when they can take selfies and add in a few key hashtags and bank 6-figures a year?

erickman 02-15-2021 08:36 PM

still confused why lana signed a 5 year contract, she should have waited. she makes more money on the internet then she makes wrestling.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-15-2021 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 5426687)
Those $$ figures cannot be real.... Why would anyone choose to work for a company when they can take selfies and add in a few key hashtags and bank 6-figures a year?

My guess is that WWE is guaranteed income. You get your contract, and barring getting released, you can bank on that cash. Also, your profile is now heightened because you're working for the biggest name in the game and gaining more eyeballs.

erickman 02-15-2021 08:47 PM

wonder how much money allie gets for alliesworld and all the other streaming stuff she does.

Emperor Smeat 02-15-2021 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by erickman (Post 5426688)
still confused why lana signed a 5 year contract, she should have waited. she makes more money on the internet then she makes wrestling.

Job stability likely played a huge role since WWE is a known quantity while AEW wasn't at the time.

When she signed her deal, AEW had only just started taping weekly shows.

TNT renewing AEW as quickly as they did and locking in a lengthy guaranteed tv contract gave AEW the legitimacy and known quantity status it was missing prior.

erickman 02-15-2021 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5426694)
Job stability likely played a huge role since WWE is a known quantity while AEW wasn't at the time.

When she signed her deal, AEW had only just started taping weekly shows.

an i guess she did not think vince would take all her outside money

Emperor Smeat 02-15-2021 09:35 PM

Yeah that for sure as well since the company didn't have any real problem with it before and you'd think with them swimming in money now, they'd barely care about it unless it was something inappropriate or conflicted with their own sponsors.

Even then, that would be a simple fix to do without needing to resort to the lengths Vince has gone towards his talent.

Emperor Smeat 02-15-2021 11:57 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE is on a &quot;signing spree&quot; right now, with around 24 people reportedly signing with the company<a href="https://t.co/jpFQzAtDJU">https://t.co/jpFQzAtDJU</a></p>&mdash; WrestleTalk (@WrestleTalk_TV) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleTalk_TV/status/1361335709722796037?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wonder how WWE's employees feel that whatever excuse management gave for why they couldn't receive raises is being rendered moot by WWE going crazy with their current signing spree.

Even at the rumored $50-$60k range for typical NXT developmental deals these days, that's a ton of money the company is splurging for this new batch of signings.

erickman 02-16-2021 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5426726)
Yeah that for sure as well since the company didn't have any real problem with it before and you'd think with them swimming in money now, they'd barely care about it unless it was something inappropriate or conflicted with their own sponsors.

Even then, that would be a simple fix to do without needing to resort to the lengths Vince has gone towards his talent.

i don't think vince knew how much they were making, when he found out he wanted it.

Gerard 02-16-2021 10:29 AM

https://i.imgur.com/o9jV48X.jpg


:eek:

Sepholio 02-16-2021 12:32 PM

Just found out Lacey Evans apparently started her wrasslin career at the tiny little local trainer/Indy fed here. Neat.

Evil Vito 02-16-2021 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5426670)
Turns out Vince's recent edict on talent not being allowed to have accounts or deals with outside third party services is even more stricter than previously assumed.

They recently expanded the ban list to include Twitter and Instagram in regards to tweets and posts promoting third party stuff and not even charities are excluded from the ban.

Just like with Twitch and Cameo, WWE is also now claiming ownership of their talent's social media accounts.

What a miserable place to <s>work</s> independently contract.

drave 02-16-2021 01:17 PM

Its weird.... like I get it if you wanna control the "likeness" of the character, but the actual person behind said likeness? Wank beyond belief.


I don't see how this stays as the industry "status quo" moving forward.

Gerard 02-16-2021 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5426876)
What a miserable place to <s>work</s> independently contract.

Vince really is a deluded, money grabbing old cunt.

screech 02-16-2021 01:35 PM

I admit I don't really know how being an independent contractor works, but how is that legal?

drave 02-16-2021 01:48 PM

Basically, they pay you for a job, and the scope of the job, and that's it. No benefits of any sort. Shit, some places who hire contractors don't even bother with taking out fucking taxes.

I can get that "person X wouldn't be popular if it weren't for WWE". At the same time, Lana isn't Lana, she's CJ Perry. WWE doesn't like that the "likeness" of a character is their stuff and someone dare make a single cent on it.


If an independent contractor were to not have enough work, they would try to make up for that some way:


Better skillset, target a broader area with same services, etc.




I would think, some of these folks who aren't featured regularly probably aren't doing as well as years past due to the lack of live gates, merch sales from live events, etc. They are looking for alternative revenue streams and some have been wildly successful. WWE isn't getting a piece of that pie and feel like they are owed it because "you didn't build that, WWE built that".


All of that is moot of course, based on whatever the fook is in their contracts, I would think.

Evil Vito 02-16-2021 01:59 PM

The one "perk" WWE gives its contracted performers is a downside guarantee. Which in it's simplest form is "if we don't book you often enough to get X number of dollars through gate, buys (in the old days) etc....we'll pay you the downside instead"

So it does at least give talent some guaranteed money in the door even if they go for a spell of not being on the road. But my understanding is that the downside for sitting at home is substantially less than if they were on the road with any degree of regularity.

Even in the pre-pandemic days, before the cruiserweight division was merged with NXT the cruisers were getting badly fucked because they'd be brought to Raw and SmackDown tapings but not always get booked, and only two of them would be on the road at a time for the token Cruiserweight Title match at a house show. The rest of the division was home from Wednesday-Sunday the rest of the time with no money coming in....and they had to pay for travel, expenses etc to get to TV. So they were all barely making anything after the downside.

Emperor Smeat 02-16-2021 04:16 PM

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:lol: at the Nia Jax part (starts at around the 4:20 mark)

RP 02-16-2021 05:35 PM

WWE needs to turn this MVP loose.

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Gerard 02-16-2021 05:58 PM

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Mr and Mrs "HHH" get a mention. :lol:

xrodmuc316 02-16-2021 07:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Advantage Fella. <a href="https://twitter.com/WWESheamus?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWESheamus</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWETitle?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWETitle</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEChamber?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEChamber</a> <a href="https://t.co/yV02ZotOn3">pic.twitter.com/yV02ZotOn3</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1361706911385726977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sepholio 02-16-2021 08:21 PM

Speculation that Keith Lee may have the rona. Missed the RAW taping and right now its apparently up in the air as to whether he is being pulled from the triple threat with Riddle/Lashley at EC.

slik 02-16-2021 08:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EVENING UPDATE: Yes. <a href="https://t.co/8M8ALAFNvM">pic.twitter.com/8M8ALAFNvM</a></p>&mdash; Is Teddy Hart In Jail? (@IsTeddyInJail) <a href="https://twitter.com/IsTeddyInJail/status/1361840374143139840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Evil Vito 02-16-2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5426985)
Speculation that Keith Lee may have the rona. Missed the RAW taping and right now its apparently up in the air as to whether he is being pulled from the triple threat with Riddle/Lashley at EC.

Well he missed the Rumble when Mia Yim was a confirmed positive and Lee's returned since then...meaning if Lee has it he might've exposed the entire Raw roster.

slik 02-16-2021 11:33 PM

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Tom Guycott 02-16-2021 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5425393)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheArnShow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheArnShow</a> - nobody else comes close... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ArnAnderson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ArnAnderson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Spinebuster?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Spinebuster</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WAMWednesday?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WAMWednesday</a> <a href="https://t.co/i2Rep2uhXP">pic.twitter.com/i2Rep2uhXP</a></p>&mdash; Raphael Wilson (@089968Raph__) <a href="https://twitter.com/089968Raph__/status/1359564466426421253?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

With sound is so much better

: A FEW DAYS LATER :

I'm pretty sure that's why the question had the qualifier of only choosing from the ones listed. Not only would it be a runaway victory for Arn from anyone who has any sense, but they can't well put the guy over in any way while he's working for "the enemy" now, can they?

slik 02-17-2021 12:22 AM

Bambi still has a mullet

https://twitter.com/wow_selina?lang=en

BigCrippyZ 02-17-2021 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5426895)
Basically, they pay you for a job, and the scope of the job, and that's it. No benefits of any sort. Shit, some places who hire contractors don't even bother with taking out fucking taxes.

I can get that "person X wouldn't be popular if it weren't for WWE". At the same time, Lana isn't Lana, she's CJ Perry. WWE doesn't like that the "likeness" of a character is their stuff and someone dare make a single cent on it.


If an independent contractor were to not have enough work, they would try to make up for that some way:


Better skillset, target a broader area with same services, etc.




I would think, some of these folks who aren't featured regularly probably aren't doing as well as years past due to the lack of live gates, merch sales from live events, etc. They are looking for alternative revenue streams and some have been wildly successful. WWE isn't getting a piece of that pie and feel like they are owed it because "you didn't build that, WWE built that".


All of that is moot of course, based on whatever the fook is in their contracts, I would think.

What's crazy is that independent contractor status is actually very specific in its requirements.

These are the key factors that determine whether someone is an independent contractor: 1. The independent contractor is supposed to be free to work for other parties without interference or approval from the contracting party except for very limited circumstances. 2. The contracting party isn't allowed to tell the independent contractor when, where and how the work is to be performed or completed. 3. The contracting party isn't required, and in a lot of cases, isn't allowed, to provide any equipment for the contracting party to perform their work. 4. The independent contractor must pay for their own expenses and health insurance. Typically, if any two or more and certainly a majority of these don't apply, the independent contractor is actually an employee.

The only thing WWE really adheres to is the last one re: health insurance and expenses, and even covering expenses is certainly not always applicable for WWE's bigger stars.

Supreme Olajuwon 02-17-2021 12:23 PM

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OH MY FUCKING GOD I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE

I had previously heard that the Mr. McMahon character was first used in Memphis, I'd never seen any clips before. Bret, Tatanka, and Savage all working as heels against Lawler and Jarrett. This is so incredible.

Bad News Gertner 02-17-2021 12:45 PM

The full clips are on youtube. They are amazing.

Here's the full playlist

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...FYhr6L0XSx4Tz_


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