Mr. Nerfect dropping truth bombs that people can't handle.

Gertner dropping troll bombs that people can handle because he does it all the time.

This is you, toward anyone who likes AEW, or even today's WWE.


People have talked about WWE being shit for a while. The difference is, you don't get upset at them for agreeing with you.


People enjoy AEW, maybe because its the "fresh coat of paint" right now, but they enjoy it none the less. This upsets you, because in your opinion, nothing in the wrestling world is "good". You are attempting to stop people liking what they like by being aggressive when someone like Smeat simply "reposts" "News" (use that word lightly). Either way, people seem to like it for their own reasons, in the same vein you dislike it for your own reasons.


It's safe to say that 99% of wrestling fans don't go into the levels of details that you do, therefore they will not care. Your average ape will just see what's on the TV and decide if they enjoy what's there. Nothing about ratings, backstage rumors or anything else, actually matters to the casual viewer.



Your issues tend to be that things are they way YOU want them. You will say that wrestling marks are the dumbest and easy to manipulate, and in the same breath complain about who is cheered and booed. It's strange.


I dunno why I'm even bothering. You'll respond as per usual and probably pissed off. :wave:

All around me are familiar faces, worn out places...

Why would he get upset at people agreeing with him? :lol:

No, really…

Have Noid and xrod 69’d yet?

I like how there are still people here who every now and then show up and, without knowing any background, just assume Noid and myself are some best friends.

In fact Mr Nerfect used to get mad at me for pointing out how stupid AEW was at the start. Then at some point AEW kept being stupid and he admitted I was right.

Fundamentally though we like different things. Not to speak for him, but pretty consistently he has made the point that he wanted AEW to be something different and better than WWE. I on the otherhand enjoy AEW more and more as time has gone on BECAUSE they have got rid of lots of their stupid shit and replaced them with interesting former WWE guys.

So to answer your idiotic and immature question, no, just because I do not have blind loyalty to one wrestling company does not mean I have sexual relations with the other people who also aren't full blown AEW Cultists.

Change your gimmick and be yourself for a bit or better yet start your own thread where you can review sort of a worst of type thing. If you honestly can't stand the product but can't tear yourself away try this. At least you might be enjoyment out of it

I have him on ignore, but a Noid "this is why *show this week* sucked ass" would probably be a ratings hit around here.

i think it could possibly be a win win situation

If people would just stop engaging with Mr. Noidfect then maybe our fun conversations around here wouldn't constantly get wasted by pages and pages of arguments involving this guys opinion. Just. Stop. Replying.

Proof of vaccination is now required by AEW for entry into Grand Slam at Arthur Ashe on the 22nd.

That's interesting since it is an open stadium. I wonder if that is coming from AEW or New York.

my guess is it's something to do with NY or at least anticipating NY making that move because as far as i know it's not required for all out on sunday.

Almost certainly coming from New York. I'd probably be willing to bet the roof is shut no matter what the weather is. The way things have been trending with the weather I think September will still be humid as balls and it might stay warm into mid-October or so. Probably gonna be the norm in future years.

So they might close it up and throw the AC on. Closed roof probably better for the noise ambiance anyway.

I think they will run with the roof closed.

It's from New York City. All NYC venues and restaurants require vaccination to enter as of August 16

There is no mask mandate though I don't think

Didn’t read any of this. It’s a joke, not a dick. Don’t take it so hard. Pussy.

I think I'm gonna mask for the show, don't wanna catch the DELTA!

yeah we have to wear masks at all out. so if it turns out like the first dance, 10% of people will wear them.

It looked like a lot of people weren’t wearing them but you’re supposed to wear them “unless eating or drinking”. They did not have a crowd of wrestling fans in mind when they added that loophole.

Interesting. How did you know he was responding to you if you didn't read any of it? Just curious.

My bad. Should’ve said I didn’t read the majority of it. Caught the “idiotic and immature question” line and that was it.

Because that is how reading works, you start at the bottom :rofl:

From AEW's "Q&A" section for the show...

Ah so it could end up being an open roof weather permitting it seems.

They say this about Lucas Oil Stadium too, but barely ever open it and it's dumb.


Was cool AF when they would open the giant windows and have a helo fly up to it tho.

I'm wondering what will happen with Jericho and MJF at All Out. Either way, I think The Pinnacle should implode shortly thereafter. I'm ready for Wardlow to turn on MJF, that can be facilitated at the PPV with Wardlow making a mistake and costing MJF the match.

The Pinnacle doesn't even feel like a group anymore. Last night I don't think commentary mentioned that FTR was apart of the stable at all. FTR and Tully don't need to be apart of a group outside of themselves, maybe a trio with Spears but Wardlow and MJF need to be on their own.

Also.

Andrade is now facing a mystery opponent at the PPV because PAC can't get to Chicago. I am going to put my cash on Adam Cole, I don't see Danielson's first match being unannounced and also against Andrade, just doesn't seem likely. But then I'd say the same for Adam Cole too. Looking through the AEW roster on their website the only current roster member that would be a satisfying surprise and match would be Sammy Guevara.

I don't think it would be smart to have Andrade take the fall in whatever match it is, which is also why Danielson and Cole aren't the best choices.

I think it could be super awesome if Cole debuts alongside Hangman and they attack The Bucks. Danielson should get involved with Omega. The trio of Cole, Danielson and Hangman could form a mega face stable to go against The Elite for a while, I think that could be pretty sick.

Would Cole not be subjected to a 90 day clause, or is it shorter for him :D

his contract straight up expired so he is exempt from a noncompete

That'd be a tiny bit of time, like, smaller than all the rest amirite.

Ron

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Where did you hear that Andrade is gonna face a mystery opponent... I don't see anything about that?

They said it on Dynamite.

oh really

edit: just saw Andrade also tweeted

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/AndradeElIdolo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AndradeElIdolo</a> vs ? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllOut</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chicago?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chicago</a> <a href="https://t.co/XS2WN3GvW0">pic.twitter.com/XS2WN3GvW0</a></p>&mdash; “EL IDOLO” ANDRADE (@AndradeElIdolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndradeElIdolo/status/1433228697725808640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.ringsidenews.com/2021/09...t-aew-all-out/

I guess it's not confirmed but Andrade is teasing.

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...t-aew-all-out/

Yeah I think Guevara would be a good opponent

Yeah, of Cole and Danielson it just doesn't feel like the right way to debut one of them. I think that on the roster the guys who aren't booked that are viable would be Archer, Hangman and Guevara. Archer would be good and a strong way to put over Andrade, Guevara is probably the "hottest" match that they could do and also he can take a loss and Hangman just isn't in the right place story wise for it to make sense.

What about Malakai Black? Not for Andrade, but if he isn't working at match at the PPV then I think that's kind of insane. I'm assuming that Cody returns on Rampage to set up a match at the PPV or maybe he get's booked against someone else. Again, it's not really a story at all but if he cut a promo and Archer came out to confront him, Lance would get a babyface pop and it would probably be a great match.

Andrade and Black had some good matches in NXT. Seen it before, which is the bad. Their matches were decent, which is the good.


Not buying the PPV this time. If my mother in law wants it, we will watch it here, but def not shelling out the $$$$

I'm probably not purchasing the PPV but streaming it. I would buy it if I knew that I'd get a workable stream. Every single AEW PPV I've ever bought through the BR Live App has failed me. The last one I was actually fully refunded for.

I know they have a new app but I have zero faith that it won't give me issues. I'm not special case, I have excellent wifi and cast from phone to chomecast with no issues on any other service.

I do have the option of purchasing on Sling and I may do that but also fuck it I can watch a stream.

2021 AEW All Out match card
AEW World Championship — Kenny Omega (c) vs. Christian Cage
CM Punk vs. Darby Allin
Chris Jericho vs. MJF
AEW Women's Championship — Dr. Britt Baker, D.M.D. (c) vs. Kris Statlander
AEW Tag Team Championship — The Young Bucks (c) vs. Lucha Brothers (Steel Cage Match)
AEW TNT Championship — Miro (c) vs. Eddie Kingston
Jon Moxley vs. Satoshi Kojima
Paul Wight vs. QT Marshall
21-woman Casino Battle Royal for a future title shot
BUY IN
Orange Cassidy, Chuck Taylor, Wheeler Yuta, & Jurassic Express vs on Matt Hardy, Private Party, & TH2

The card is fully loaded as of now and that's leaving out Starks/Cage, a match for Malakai and a match for Andrade. Since they bumped the Battle Royal from Buy In to main card that would make you assume they are probably not adding matches.

I just cannot fathom Malakai not having a match or a huge angle on the PPV. Andrade could get away with a promo and be fine but Malakai with nothing is very odd.

Andrade needs to get the win here, so I wouldn't debut a new talent for this match. Put him up against orange Cassidy. Cassidy is mad over so Andrade getting a win over him will get him some good heat. Especially if he wins dirty. And it wouldn't hurt Cassidy at all.

I feel fortunate that I have yet to have a single issue with streaming any AEW PPV on BR Live. *knock on wood*

That would have been a great idea but they have booked OC for the Buy In. I just edited the card above, realized that it was a bit out of date.

That's Meltzer's reporting. Does that mean a positive covid test? Was there any reporting on what actually happened with Sasha?

I'm reverse. Sling constantly takes a shit, but BR Live has been great. Sling shits out on regular watching.


I use an Xbox to stream, I'd never do it on a phone. Lots of reasons that could be a crappy experience.


After WWE changed their Network provider, whenever that was, it was also super shitty.

I have bad experiences with Sling and watching Dynamite. Usually the stream will lag at some point and leave me behind a minute or so. So it ends up that I often miss the last minute or two of the show like last night.

Have you ordered the PPV's from Sling?

Xbox used to be better for me with Sling but the last two weeks casting to chromecast from my phone had less buffering and better picture.

Andrade needs to wrestle somebody who can put him over. He’s had one match. He needs to go over. And Cole and Danielson shouldn’t be losing their debuts either.

Perhaps they could do an angle where Flair debut's as Andrade's wing man. I know he has Chavo but he has not been good.

If they had one match spot left and it was between Andrade and someone else or Malakai and Cody or Malakai and someone else, I'd go with Malakai. Flair could be enough of a moment to make Andrade's PPV angle worth it.

Ah.

Kazarian would be a great opponent, but that would be kind of random, since he's feeding with the Elite right now.

Would be cool if they got one of the luchadores from aaa that they've used in the past. El Bandido or Loredo Kid.

Fuego del sol is another possibility since Andrade beat the shit out of him. Though that probably wouldn't be as good a match as the other options.

Always ordered PPV's on BR Live. I've ordered "movie rentals" from Sling before... never an issue. Sling seems to shit out most with "live events".

Feels like if it was COVID, then the Lucha Bros probably would be off the card due to them being in recent close contact with him. Could just be Khan wanting to wait till the last minute to be sure PAC wasn't going to show up in time before making that big announcement. PAC has a similar problem WALTER has where he gets very homesick after a while which is why he's been traveling often despite the UK's strict travel rules for COVID.

With Sasha, last I head is that nobody is sure what's going on with her beyond it not being injury-related. Her catching COVID wouldn't be a shock considering she's recently been hanging out with anti-vax type people and spreading some misinformation about it online. Then again, same issue that if it really was COVID, then Bianca probably would have been out longer due to being in recent close contact with her.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/RicFlairNatrBoy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RicFlairNatrBoy</a> X <a href="https://twitter.com/orangecassidy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@orangecassidy</a> �� <a href="https://t.co/pzfeNI7Kgv">pic.twitter.com/pzfeNI7Kgv</a></p>&mdash; B/R Wrestling (@BRWrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/BRWrestling/status/1433535108716261389?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">QT Marshall’s gimmick is a guy who puts ketchup on everything he eats even in a fancy restaurant -R</p>&mdash; Mat Men Pro Wrestling Podcast �� (@Matmenpodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matmenpodcast/status/1433237907008020480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

but is he a bone-in or boneless guy? that is the real question.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey <a href="https://twitter.com/CassieLee?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CassieLee</a> get your man, he lost the plot ���� <a href="https://t.co/74nGmsfLdy">pic.twitter.com/74nGmsfLdy</a></p>&mdash; Giacomo (@DarkHorse0412) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarkHorse0412/status/1433602606379716608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Karl Anderson is OUTA CONTROL

NVM That was The Chairman SHAWN SPEARS. But Anderson's TWEETING is out of control! Someone help him! Please, Tony if you are reading this, help!

People are offended that a heel is acting like a heel on twitter. Eat me the fuck out.

going to the fan fest tomorrow but can't seem to find an actual schedule anywhere? can't seem to find one for today's either. just a list of people who will be available on which day. hmmmmmmm.

He has literally no no-compete. He signed an extension at the end of his last contract.

Indy wrestler Skye Blue announced for the Casino Battle Royale, which has now filled all 21 spots.

No Ruby Soho debut in that match, unless Rebel gets written off on Rampage tonight.

https://woodlandlakesdental.com/about-us/

Up until a week or two ago, I didn't realize Britt had an active practice that's open to anyone. That's fucking cool as hell.

Typos should be fixed and she should list the other people in the practice because those hours of operation would be bs if it was just her.

Well, it wasn't Rebel written off but it appears it might be Julia Hart instead. She got hurt in her match on Dark and they then did a backstage beatdown from Jade and Nyla apparently to write her off.

Probably the tweet responsible for AEW


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@davemeltzerWON</a> do you think ROH can ever sell out an arena with 10k+ fans? Something like the Madison Square Garden?</p>&mdash; WWE Guy (@TheWWEGuy_) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheWWEGuy_/status/864542537360474112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 16, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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I've read that Pete Dunne's WWE contract is up and he has been offered an extension by WWE. Obviously he's got to be on the AEW radar as he's one of the best talents anywhere in the world. It would be just another level of awesomeness for AEW if they get this guy.

I think AEW's roster is now at the point where we should be leaving behind those "off weeks" on Dynamite that we've experienced so often. Not as often since touring began but there have been a few episodes that weren't "awesome".

They have almost not excuse not to book every show with at least one must see match right now.

I've been vocal about Bray Wyatt joining AEW. It's obviously a huge catch if it happens. But they are packing a lot of talent right now with only 3 hours of proper TV a week and 4 PPV's a year. If I had a choice I'd probably chose Dunne over Wyatt.

I dunno. Bray is kind of unique and different from other people AEW have on tap. Pete Dunne is absolutely excellent but he wouldn't stand out nearly as much over there. If I was AEW I'd love to have both of them but if I had to pick one it would be Bray.

Realistically though at some point AEW either has to stop hiring people for awhile or they are going to have to start making cuts. There roster is getting bloated like WWE. It's not as big yet but WWE has 7 hours of TV per week as opposed to 3 for AEW. They are going to end up in the same boat of not having time for everyone and people are going to get lost in the shuffle.

I dunno I may take Dunne over Bray just because he is 7 years younger. Lot more time to work with him and if he becomes a big star he can be a long term boon for them. Tough call.

Yeah I've been saying their roster has been blocked for a while, but they just keep adding people. That said, you definitely don't want to pass on the people they've been getting lately, but but maybe don't give folks like the factory and the Gunn club so much time.

Hello The PWW.

I was brought here by the news of Seth82, but figured I would contribute a lil bit.

Been watching AEW, pretty great for the most part, only wrestling outside of Lucha Underground I’ve watched in the last 8 years or something.

A few guys I don’t care about but loads I do. Lots of guys whose names I know of from WWE like Malakai Black but never saw him before AEW, he’s pretty sweet.

Gonna watch All Out now, might add my comments in the thread.

CM Punk is seemingly a massive gimp irl, but to be fair even I was very excited by his return a few weeks back.

Fantasy booking, but man signing Bray, Braun, and Rowan together would be great. I'd love to see what a properly booked Wyatt family could do. Its one of the few tried and true wrestling gimmicks they dont have, a stable that terrorizes everybody. An attack that can come at any time on anybody on the roster, and those 3 fit that billing perfectly.

Also, with Billy Gunn being given a prominent role last week with a heel turn, I expect him to finally get the world title he deserves

Imagine if they signed Bray and he came out to "He's got the whole world in his hands". I'd mark tf out lol

I think the one benefit to a loaded AEW roster is that they can cycle through and take guys off TV for a month or two (ala Hangman) and be totally fine.

So many guys in WWE have said they wished there could be an offseason. Bigger names like Orton, etc have negotiated time off etc.

With AEW they can give everyone a breather at different times throughout the year and still have plenty of star power.

They can cycle them out, loan them out and give them a rest. Monsters can't constantly steamroll over everyone for months and them get jobbed out for 6 after losing to the good guy and expect the fans to think they are dangerous. Push the monster, defeat the monster and lend him to Impact or NJPW for 6 months instead to keep him from being stale

The hypothetical "would you sign Bray or Dunne" question really comes down to what one does better than the other and it should be obvious. Would you rather have the one that can work better matches (Dunne) or tell a better story (Bray)?

What’s responsible for AEW is the WWE getting giant TV rights fees. That’s it. That’s the only metric that makes something like AEW even slightly appealing to Shad Khan. You can spend millions of dollars on big stars and not make it back on gates and merch, but can get it back via TV.

They don’t have off weeks on purpose. They think that everything they are doing is gold, which is frustrating, because if you aren’t going to analyse yourself properly, how are you going to honestly improve?

The upside to bringing in world class talent like Bryan, Cole and Punk is that there shouldn’t be room for trash, and it should be almost automatic to put on better television. But this is the promotion that saw no issue with following up CM Punk’s debut with Matt Hardy vs. Orange Cassidy, so...

Matt Hardy is one of the biggest stars in the buisness.

This. They just need to find balance with only 4 PPVs a year. I guess this is where the TV specials come into play.

He’s Jeff‘s brother and hasn’t been anywhere near good since 2008. The potential he was perceived to have was all projected from fans based on how over The Hardy Boyz were. Matt himself has flopped in every singles role he’s ever had on any level.

V1 had a good run I thought. Matt Hardy solo is a solid upper midcarder at best. I was never a fan of the "Broken" character.

His Broken character was fine until he went back to the Wwe.

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Mattitude was funny for a moment...in 2003. He got that windfall in 2005 when Lita cheated on him, and he blew that. Apart from that he has been pretty awful.

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Damn Braudy Lee calling Noid out for a match at Full Gear!? Sign me the fuck up!!!!

Damn

Really looking forward to seeing what this Adam Cole guy can bring to AEW’s junior division against Marko Stunt and Brodie Lee Jr

There was a moment in the brawl where Luchasaurus chucked Marko Stunt at everyone.... and JR confused Marko with Adam Cole, and I was just like "understandable".

That was funny as hell

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Looked to see what tickets were going for and it looks like they’re already sold out

1.32 million for AEW this week

2nd best in Dyna history I believe, behind the premiere.

Predictable rating. I thought they would get a 1.3 this week. Next week it will be 1.2. Then it will settle back into the 1.1 range. Whenever that Grand Slam show is will do 1.3 too. But it all trickles back down.

They'll never hit a million


I knew they'd hit over a million, but it'll go back down


See it went back down, this is where it will stay, they'll never hit a million again


I knew they'd be over a million again, but it'll go back down again!!!




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That’s your story, bud. What you’re confusing here is when Gerty said they would never consistently hit over 1 million viewers while they were opposed by NXT. Now that they’re unopposed, obviously that changes. But ignore that for the “critic bad” argument.

And yes, they will go back down. That is what always happens. They hot-shot something big for attention, they get it, a lot of people say “not for me,” then they go back to that 900k-1.1 million range. The big things on the horizon are Arthur Ashe and Ric Flair. They’ll probably scrounge something together after that, but it will likely continue in this pattern for a long-ass time.