He would not be any worse off than before he was in WWE. He's been making a good living before WWE. He would continue to do so afterwards. Especially if the claims about wrestlers making as much or more than their contracts is even remotely true.

NFL Hall of Famer Kevin Greene passed away at age 58. Greene wrestled a couple matches in WCW

He could have been a huge star had he committed to wrestling, which I get why he didn't.

I doubt Styles is making more from Twitch than from WWE. That claim was for talent like Zelina Vega.

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The chair breaking in half and Bray charging at Orton while on fire were probably the two best or coolest moments of WWE's TLC show last night.

Who is that back guy?

AJ Styles' bodyguard who goes by name of Omos

He's gonna be wrestling Bobby Lashley and Keith Lee for the next 5 years.

Of course not. But he's AJ Styles. He once again be the hottest free agent on the market. And would likely gain another big contract. Even if it's not a wwe guarantee, combined with new found income via streaming, he'd be just fine.

He's AJ fucking Styles. He's not poor and he's not gonna be outta work long if he'd leave.

Besides NXT India and "NXT EVOLVE", WWE is also currently working on plans for a new NXT Mexico brand.

NXT starting to head into the same direction and problem as regular WWE in terms of gradually becoming too bloated and saturated for weekly content.

Assuming all three new NXT shows are one hour long, just watching NXT branded stuff means at least 6 hours per week once all of them launch. WWE sans NXT right now is 6-7 hours weekly with RAW, SD, 205 Live, and Main Event.

Whatever happened to wrestling forum poster KIRA?

Didn't AJ get Vince to give the Good Brothers a contract extension as a handshake for him to sign a new contract....only for covid to come as an excuse for them to get released?

Yes I believe so

MJF's Facebook is fucking gold!!!


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Wasn't really following.... but didn't Lana just get pretty much carried along by Asuka?

That is really shitty what they did to Lana tbh. I think she would be great in AEW as Miro's girl.

What rubs me the wrong way is how vindictive WWE is when it comes to this type of shit. Grow the fuck up!

I thought this was Deontae Wilder the boxer.

Only for the latter part of her storyline with Nia Jax and Shayna Baszler.

With the way that storyline was playing out, you'd think the big payoff was either Lana somehow puts Nia through a table or takes the Women's Tag titles off of Nia & Shayna as revenge. Instead neither happen.

Assuming that storyline is over after last week's RAW since Lana is hurt, Lana's big payoff was just getting a surprise roll-up over Nia, which led to Nia & Shayna still getting the last laugh in the end by destroying her post-match.

yep she screwed up when she signed for 5 years and miro did not, she should have held out.

Pretty sure they would have fucking talked about it. Lana took the WWE prestige and Miro went to AEW because he’s got a warped perspective of himself and has flopped like every. Single. Act. Outside of maybe FTR, who are just in the same spot.

Lana is not a good wrestler. She was at best holding a spot anyway. This is also how you get someone over with the internet in 2020/2021. People are actually championing Lana. Holy wow.

Charlotte coming in and winning is better. Sorry to break it to you guys. But now they’ve actually got the chance to do something with Lana and you’ll eat it up hook, line and sinker.

:lol: "WWE prestige". It's called a paycheck bigger than what anyone who isn't a petty, chickenshit, idiot would ever pay her. Instead she's getting paid much more than she's currently worth because bosses are a group pathetic, fucking morons who will simply pay someone more than they're actually worth simply to keep a former employee and competitor from having even a possibility of getting more over or having success.

FTR has flopped there too.

WWE is still, far and away, the biggest wrestling promotion in the world. Not just in the United States, but in the world. If you want to be a star in wrestling, or whatever resembles wrestling today, then you still need that WWE machine. You don't have to like it, but you've got to admit it is true.

AEW is watched by less than 1 million people. They also pay their talent out the ass. Jericho, JR and Matt Hardy have all said their deals with AEW are bigger than with the WWE. Edge was offered $3 million. Randy Orton was able to use an AEW offer to springboard to a higher tier with Vince. They're paying a 61 year old Sting. As if CJ Perry couldn't get a big offer to go there and be Miro's valet. She probably has her eyes set on being an actor or something, and wants that WWE platform, which is undoubtedly bigger and, yes, more prestigious.

You backed a bad horse, Cripz. You wanted AEW to be good. I get that. But you got Chris Jericho selling for guys with the exact same frame as David Arquette and getting slimed Nickelodeon style with orange juice and musical numbers.

You're lying to yourself now. That's cool. But don't fucking try and get away with lying to others. They've got a billionaire's backing, an internet fan's smarts and a bunch of disillusioned fans supporting them in a bubble.

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Good workout music choice!

WWE sort of forgot to rig this year's Slammy Awards since the winner for this year's Match of the Year wasn't the "Greatest Wrestling Match Ever" between Randy Orton and Edge at Backlash.

Tremendous story Bix posted on Twitter. Apparently Brian Gamble went up to Saturn and agents and told them he didn't want to lose to Saturn in his hometown. He ended up kicking Saturn in the eye drawing blood during the match and Saturn shoot spears him and starts kicking the piss out of him

The Mike Bell stuff would have happened around this period of time too, right? Because the Moppy stuff was happening around the Royal Rumble 2002, I thought. And that came about because of the APA double powerbomb in response to Saturn getting testy.

Metal was testing Perry’s patience, it seems.

Yeah Mike Bell was before this. Like spring 01.

I thought so, but didn’t it lead directly to the Moppy stuff? Or was that also way earlier?

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Tasers undefeated against Goldberg.

That was glorious and terrible all at once

That reminds me of Bill Goldberg's Santa's Slay movie..... never seen it.... maybe this is the year.... 'tis the season

Based on a quick Google search, that film he was in actually involves a taser scene but unlike the other times, he was not on the receiving end of it.

https://cinemorgue.fandom.com/wiki/Michael_David_Simms

The moppy gimmick was allegedly a punishment for the Mike Bell incident although Saturn has denied that in interviews.

What Crippla said

Got 6 days in a row off. Gonna try and finish my 97 ECW Hardcore TV rewatch(which is starting to become a chore. The show drops off big time after Barely Legal), watch some early 80s WWF stuff that I downloaded a while back and some 83 Mid South

My Xmas gift to the forums... a nice little gem that will remind you of ALL the good shit from Late 98 going into 99...


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According to Post Wrestling, WWE's current plans for NXT India resemble something similar to what they did for NXT UK at the start.

Right now, they only have plans to tape a tournament while the launch of an official series would happen at a much later date.

Also might not be a weekly series in the end since WWE still hasn't completely finalized their plans for the brand.

As long as this leads to the return of Tiger Ali Singh

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He acted like he wasn't gonna sell the Rings of Saturn but forgot that Saturn was A. an Army fucking Ranger B. Trained under Killer fucking Kowalski and C. fucking INSANE.

Saturn leaned into the hold, and he went from "this isn't bad" to "Oh fuck, my arm's gonna break!" really quick. Hard to be a star in front of your family when your arm is in a bag next to Moppy. And knowing Saturn, he would have put a condom over the end and fucked a rat with that dude's arm, because he's A. Depraved and B. Into Safe Sex.

I have to say, I'm with Saturn on this. Gamble was being an unprofessional little bitch about jobbing and no one really even knew who he waa

I saw a thing on Reddit where Meltzer was talking about how many tickets Hogan sold and how no one will ever come close. In the comments, folks were talking about how folks to this day, when doing a mock wrestling promo, will usually default to Hogan or Savage impressions.

Except for one time when I saw a guy do a Big E impression.

Jesus Christ that crowd was red fucking hot.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Professional Wrestling Territories of Canada and the U.S. <a href="https://t.co/0SYQyiitTP">https://t.co/0SYQyiitTP</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Canada?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Canada</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/USA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#USA</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZvbAlb4LFM">pic.twitter.com/ZvbAlb4LFM</a></p>&mdash; Vivid Maps (@VividMaps) <a href="https://twitter.com/VividMaps/status/849142070233055232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Assuming the map is accurate, why the lack of any territories for a big chunk of the western part of the US?

People would run shows in those states but not under the NWA banner. Thesz for example wrestled some shows in Nevada.

Bert Prentice was known for starting promotions in those areas.

There were also attempts to run those areas under the NWA banner like Montana but they quickly fizzled out.

That's very interesting.

Wyoming is the one state that sticks out the most from that group of non-territory states. It acts as a buffer between AWA and Stampede Wrestling but didn't completely stop AWA from continuing growing westward since they went via the Colorado route instead.

Yeah the AWA ran Wyoming a lot in the 70s. Especially Cheyenne

Another state that isn't lit up on the map was Idaho.

Recently deceased Dean Silverstone used to run shows in that area as well as Washington (Seattle area) under the name "Superstar Championship Wrestling".

He has a autobiography called "I ain't no Pig Farmer" that I've been wanting to read for a while.

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I’m sure it’s better than AEW.

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:eek::eek::eek:

Jesus... Hogan was so reckless with that chairshot. No wonder Konnan wanted Lex Luger to peel his potatoes.

I think I heard that chair shot from Boston

Can you plz record yourself saying "Chair shot from Boston" and post it.

I bet you back in those days the "boys" were pissed that Hogan didn't lay that chairshot in. Whereas in reality, he's actually protecting his fellow wrassler.

Wonder if the boys back in the back in the day were also mad at Papa Shango slinging mad curses at Ultimate Warrior. He coulda killed the guy!!!

Cheaaaa shot from Boston keddd. Unfortunately for you I do not have a thick Boston accent although I get made fun of for the way I speak every time I travel down south

LOL @ Schavonie "what".

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Yo, is he being transphobic?!??!

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Oh jesus fuck.

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This forum is dead.

ok

#shutitdown

This Twitch channel is streaming Wrestle Kingdom 1-9

Right now its a Shinsuke Nakumara match. I've never seen these

https://www.twitch.tv/ericisdrunk

Nakumara vs Hiroshi Tanahashi

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Remember watching that Nitro when it happened, amazed he didn't get some spine or neck damage from that.

Same, remember seeing that too. Must have been early in the night because I remember religiously switching to raw when that was on.

Watching back Edge’s 2020 Rumble return on YouTube. Anything prior to that first pandemic episode of Smackdown feels like it didn’t happen this year.

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Mick Foley tested positive for Covid

Oh snap.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpeakingOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SpeakingOut</a> <br>Sad wrestling media continues to ignore his story.<br>His life didn't matter?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MenOnAMission?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MenOnAMission</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Oscar?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Oscar</a> shoots on being physically &amp; emotionally abused in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWF?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWF</a> locker rooms, paddled, urinated on, violated, complaints to officials mocked<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SmackDown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SmackDown</a><a href="https://t.co/B2Y8XpsEIZ">https://t.co/B2Y8XpsEIZ</a></p>&mdash; Boston Wrestling MWF : Holiday Headlocks Toy Drive (@MWFProjectX) <a href="https://twitter.com/MWFProjectX/status/1345263304487235590?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just a reminder that WWE and MTV once made a video package to end the year 2000 using Backstreet Boys - Larger Than Life <a href="https://t.co/9svumurE8X">pic.twitter.com/9svumurE8X</a></p>&mdash; Kyle Lewis (@KeepItFiveStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeepItFiveStar/status/1345169804127326208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oprah Winfrey doing color commentary on a few WWF matches with Gentleman Jerry Valiant in 1985 on her morning show.

BSB sucked. N'Sync was way better.

is michael cole gonna retire any time soon... feel like i would maybe watch wrestling if it didn't have michael cole

Oh my! Could it be?

It is!

THE BIG DOG IS HERE!

It's BOSS TIME!

Just mute the TV if he's your main problem.

They’ve pretty much cloned him at this point so this is what we have for at least another 10+ years.

Tom Phillips was v good before they started making him into Cole 2.0.

Thought of another great gimmick idea

They should find a young, good looking guy and give him a teen heart throb gimmick. He'd give a rose to one lucky girl in the audience as he walks down to the ring. He'll frequently pose on promos like they do on the cover of tiger beat and say shit like "the only battle I'm concerned about is the battle for my heart". But the best part is his ringname:

BJ Babyface!

Feel like Cole and Tazz worked well together...

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Reddit discovered Scott Steiner's website from the 90s...is still up and running

http://bootydaddy.com/home4.htm

I did. COuldn't hear the entrance music

Agreed...Tom Phillips used to be my favorite commentator and now he's some inhuman robot.

Tony Schiavone currently my favorite commentator.

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That's too long. Any interesting bits?

5 minutes in and it's more interesting than current wwe/aew. not too long

If he could be Latino, Angel Garza is 75% the way there....