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alvarado52 03-15-2010 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 2982185)
I dont buy stuff online, ever.

oh cmon man, amazon.com? I understand buying from some places, but there are clear reputable places online that sell at good prices. Amazon a week back had 1 yr cards for $35.

Blitz 03-15-2010 10:50 PM
To be fair, Amazon is pretty useless to us Canadians, as they don't ship here. We have Amazon.ca, which is just awful.

LoDownM 03-16-2010 12:08 AM
Weren't the Map packs for the last 2 COD's 10 bucks? Oh noes, 5 bucks more!

Boomer 03-16-2010 12:46 AM
Not that I give a shit, but two of the 5 maps are just ports, and there are way better ways to spend money on XBL than that shit.

D Mac 03-16-2010 02:06 AM
But Crash is awesome. Hopefully they'll have seperate playlists to only play on the new maps, instead of just inserting them into the normal ones.

Johnny McNasty 03-16-2010 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by alvarado52 (Post 2982508)
oh cmon man, amazon.com? I understand buying from some places, but there are clear reputable places online that sell at good prices. Amazon a week back had 1 yr cards for $35.
My local video rental place had the same deal for one day only last week. Jumped all over that even thought I had just bought a three month subscription.

Also don't think 15 bucks is too much for 5 maps, when we paid ten for 3 last go around.

Blitz 03-16-2010 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2983014)
Not that I give a shit, but two of the 5 maps are just ports
Been seeing this argument a lot. In the COD4 map pack, Chinatown was just a reskinned COD2 map, and I think I played Killhouse like once ever since it was in like no playlists. So $10 for 2 brand new maps, one rehash, and one that rarely gets played vs. $15 for 3 brand new maps and 2 of the best maps from COD4. Not too bad.

El Fangel 03-16-2010 01:40 PM
One other problem, are the maps bug and glitch free before they put them out? Equipped the nuke last night, some fucker found me at 24 kills while I was using the chopper gunner :(

D Mac 03-16-2010 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 2983519)
One other problem, are the maps bug and glitch free before they put them out?
I'm sure they tried their hardest.

El Fangel 03-16-2010 04:34 PM
So no then.

Miotch 03-16-2010 09:30 PM
You guys are all coming off like a bunch of crying children.

WAHHHHH THEY WANT ME TO PAY FOR CONTENT WAHHHHH

Jesus.

Blitz 03-16-2010 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Mac (Post 2983619)
I'm sure they tried their hardest.
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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 2983698)
So no then.
Love how people expect a massive, ambitious, deep game to just come out and be completely bug free, and if it isn't then the company failed.

El Fangel 03-16-2010 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Blitz (Post 2984148)
Love how people expect a massive, ambitious, deep game to just come out and be completely bug free, and if it isn't then the company failed.
You think that they would have had enough time to, I dont know. Test them?

Blitz 03-16-2010 11:02 PM
Yes, in a huge game like Modern Warfare 2, it's probably really really simple to check for every single possible exploit and/or error in code. No problems there.

Seriously, I think I hate the bitching about glitches more than anything else about COD's community. Fuck's sake. Despite the cries of horror from the message boards, not a single glitch for this game as been even close to gamebreaking. If there was something that like caused the game to lock up and killed your hard drive or something, then yes, complain. But Javelindom? Infinite Care Packages? Big fucking deal. And it's even more asinine when you take into account the fact that that shit gets easily and quickly patched. But people want instant gratification, and if it takes more than a week to get something fixed, it's "OMG INFINITY WARD SUCKS THEY MADE SUCH AN UBER BROKEN GAME!!!!". Go ahead, keep ignoring the fact that it's a deep, addicting, gorgeous. and above all else, FUN game, and focus on the programmers missing a handful (yes that's right-HANDFUL) of glitches, that are quickly fixed once discovered. Come on.

El Fangel 03-16-2010 11:24 PM
Hmm, I do believe there is/was a

"-1,000,000 XP hack/glitch"
"10th Prestige Lobbies"
"Elevators"
"Wall Glitches"

El Fangel 03-16-2010 11:28 PM
There are many known glitches/hacks/cheats that they havent fixed or took their sweet time doing something about.

I dont see that changing if they had us pay a subscription fee either, hell knowing them they might even start charging us for the goddamn patch.

I love playing the game, what I dont love is playing on an uneven battlefield where some loser who sucks at the game has to ruin it for the other people playing.

I honestly dont and will never understand why someone has to cheat in an online game, I mean what do you accomplish? Your e-cock is a little bigger? Who are you going to show it to, people who cheat along with you?

It pisses me off to no end that people who do cheat, have nothing done to them whatsoever. It ruins the quality of play and when they ask you to pay above and beyond the cost of the game after that it really fucking pisses me off.

Blitz 03-16-2010 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 2984250)
Hmm, I do believe there is/was a

"-1,000,000 XP hack/glitch"
"10th Prestige Lobbies"
"Elevators"
"Wall Glitches"
Yeah the XP thing was bad. But wasn't it a hack, rather than a glitch though? Same with the 10th Prestige lobbies? And elevators and wall glitches, big deal.

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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 2984266)
There are many known glitches/hacks/cheats that they havent fixed or took their sweet time doing something about.
Such as?

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I dont see that changing if they had us pay a subscription fee either, hell knowing them they might even start charging us for the goddamn patch.
Idiotic comments at best. Why on Earth would they charge for a patch. One reason please, something besides "THEY ARE TEH EVIL GREEDY CORPORATION OUT TO RAPE THE CONSUMER!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:"

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I love playing the game, what I dont love is playing on an uneven battlefield where some loser who sucks at the game has to ruin it for the other people playing.

I honestly dont and will never understand why someone has to cheat in an online game, I mean what do you accomplish? Your e-cock is a little bigger? Who are you going to show it to, people who cheat along with you?
Nor will I. That's not the point though. It will happen, in any online game. Anonymity+distance=assholes. It's sad but true. It's not Infinity Ward's fault that people are idiots.

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It pisses me off to no end that people who do cheat, have nothing done to them whatsoever. It ruins the quality of play
Again, not debating that's it's dumb. I can't speak to any consequences glitchers face, I don't know enough about XBL banning protocol, but it is easy to leave bad feedback, report them, etc.. I can honestly say that I've noticed that I've encountered one glitcher, ever. Maybe I've been in games with more, but I haven't noticed. But again, how do you blame Infinity Ward for this? They aren't responsible for people being morons. That's like someone cracking you over the head with a pipe, and you indict the company that made the pipe.

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and when they ask you to pay above and beyond the cost of the game after that it really fucking pisses me off.
Christ, again with the DLC? A) $20 bucks max, and B) NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY IT. It's bonus content, for those who wish to have it. No penalty is doled out to you for not getting it.

El Fangel 03-17-2010 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Blitz (Post 2984341)
Yeah the XP thing was bad. But wasn't it a hack, rather than a glitch though? Same with the 10th Prestige lobbies? And elevators and wall glitches, big deal.

I am just saying they are in the game and remain in the game, why they arent fixed is what bothers me.


Such as?


Javelin/Care Package Glitches

Idiotic comments at best. Why on Earth would they charge for a patch. One reason please, something besides "THEY ARE TEH EVIL GREEDY CORPORATION OUT TO RAPE THE CONSUMER!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:"

And they arent?


Charging a subscription for a game that we already have to pay another fee to play anyway isnt evil?

And what do/would we get by paying this user fee? a few maps once a year? which are already overpriced as is?

Nor will I. That's not the point though. It will happen, in any online game. Anonymity+distance=assholes. It's sad but true. It's not Infinity Ward's fault that people are idiots.


I agree totally and am happy we are on the same page, but it would be better if they did something about it BEFORE the game came out.

Have betas, have playtesters TRYING to find glitches and things before they put the game out on the market.

I am sure with a couple hundred hours of play among a dozen people they could easily find alot of the bugs in the game

Again, not debating that's it's dumb. I can't speak to any consequences glitchers face, I don't know enough about XBL banning protocol, but it is easy to leave bad feedback, report them, etc.. I can honestly say that I've noticed that I've encountered one glitcher, ever. Maybe I've been in games with more, but I haven't noticed. But again, how do you blame Infinity Ward for this? They aren't responsible for people being morons. That's like someone cracking you over the head with a pipe, and you indict the company that made the pipe.

It would be more like the company handed them the pipe, but thats besides the point.

I cant believe for a second that you only ever encountered one glitcher as I am sure you played during teh care package hell, tell me you didnt see Usain Bolt running around the map knifing people or air support from about 15 seconds in until the match ended or killing someone and not seeing a killcam because of the javelin glitch.


Christ, again with the DLC? A) $20 bucks max, and B) NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY IT. It's bonus content, for those who wish to have it. No penalty is doled out to you for not getting it

I know no penalty is doled out, but look at the sales of this game.

(I checked today its 1400 points for 19.99 so around $18 for the maps)

But at $18 a pop for say half of the games sold (and Im being generous as closer to 80% will likely get it)

That would be $18 x 7,500,000 copies (It sold 7.5 in the first day, so I am being more then fair here)

Which works out to be $135 million dollars. Seeing as 2 maps are pre-existing, the profit per map is $45 million each

Requiem 03-17-2010 12:29 AM
idk.. I would give them more slack if they weren't owned/funded by a company with virtually limitless resources. Not harping on them for releasing maps that may or may not be buggy, as testing only does so much. But in general, I feel things could have been speedier, or they could have at least issued some sort of apology to their customers for taking so long with fixing glitches that were literally ruining the game experience for a while.

While the glitches didn't break the game, they made it completely lack fun for several weeks, nearing a month or better, while people ran rampant getting infinite care packages (and I would argue that that WAS a game-breaking glitch). The game went from "Hey that emblem is cool, how did you get it?" to "I bet you boosted to get that emblem", as well as countless people nuke boosting in FFA, or riot shield boosting all the time. Hell, I stopped playing FFA, which was one of my favorite gametypes, because every other game had nuke boosters in it. And that CAN be prevented by Infinity Ward.

May not seem like a huge deal to you, but companies CAN hotfix things pretty quickly, and a company like Infinity Ward should have had no problems allocating resources to fixing the problems in the game. That said, I am glad they fixed the game at least. I think they did it just in time to prevent a mass exodus away from their game, but it didn't really scream "We care about our players".

Requiem 03-17-2010 12:30 AM
Makes me laugh at the idea that there could ever be a rumor about a Call of Duty MMO, because Infinity Ward would never be able to pull it off and remain a respectable company when the dust settled.

El Fangel 03-17-2010 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2984387)
idk.. I would give them more slack if they weren't owned/funded by a company with virtually limitless resources. Not harping on them for releasing maps that may or may not be buggy, as testing only does so much. But in general, I feel things could have been speedier, or they could have at least issued some sort of apology to their customers for taking so long with fixing glitches that were literally ruining the game experience for a while.


Exactly my point, its not like they dont have the resources to test or fix whats found. The care package glitch really ruined games for the longest while and there was really no way to stop it as even killing the person doing it didnt stop the non-ending onslaught.

While the glitches didn't break the game, they made it completely lack fun for several weeks, nearing a month or better, while people ran rampant getting infinite care packages (and I would argue that that WAS a game-breaking glitch). The game went from "Hey that emblem is cool, how did you get it?" to "I bet you boosted to get that emblem", as well as countless people nuke boosting in FFA, or riot shield boosting all the time. Hell, I stopped playing FFA, which was one of my favorite gametypes, because every other game had nuke boosters in it. And that CAN be prevented by Infinity Ward.

Just want to point out that if you look at the top of the leaderboards in the game you wont see any skilled players there at all.

May not seem like a huge deal to you, but companies CAN hotfix things pretty quickly, and a company like Infinity Ward should have had no problems allocating resources to fixing the problems in the game. That said, I am glad they fixed the game at least. I think they did it just in time to prevent a mass exodus away from their game, but it didn't really scream "We care about our players".

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G 03-17-2010 12:40 AM
omgggg way too much energy has been put into this dlc fiasco

El Fangel 03-17-2010 12:42 AM
I need to bitch about something dammit.

Since they dont have Creek, Dragonuv or the Skorpion.

Christ I wouldnt be surprised if they re-added 3x Grenades and Wetworks as a "bonus"

Requiem 03-17-2010 12:42 AM
Also important to note that I think they can do whatever they want. If they don't want to patch a game right away, then that's their prerogative. But if they want any respect from their paying customers, or if they want people to pay the price they're asking for DLC (which I personally don't find outrageous, although higher than I would rather), then they need to give their customers a reason to.

Blitz 03-17-2010 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 2984381)
I am just saying they are in the game and remain in the game, why they arent fixed is what bothers me.
How do you blame a company for hacks? If someone posts some weird HTML on here, and it messes things up a bit, IE Hasney or Xero, do you get mad at Trips?

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Javelin/Care Package Glitches
Javelindom is loooooong gone. And I haven't seen anything about CP glitching since the last patch.

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And they arent?

Charging a subscription for a game that we already have to pay another fee to play anyway isnt evil?

And what do/would we get by paying this user fee? a few maps once a year? which are already overpriced as is?
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen you post. No it isn't fucking evil. Rape is evil. Genocide is evil. Monthly game subscriptions, not so much. And again, you're getting mad about something that COULD happen.

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I agree totally and am happy we are on the same page, but it would be better if they did something about it BEFORE the game came out.

Have betas, have playtesters TRYING to find glitches and things before they put the game out on the market.

I am sure with a couple hundred hours of play among a dozen people they could easily find alot of the bugs in the game
They had an internal beta. and of course they have playtesters. That's the fucking purpose of playtesters. Playtesters don't sit around and go through the game leisurely, they try to break it, make it fuck up, etc.. That's how bugs are found. And dude, we're not talking some 8 bit sidescroller here. It's a huge, intricate game, and they're only human. Stuff will slip through the cracks.


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I cant believe for a second that you only ever encountered one glitcher as I am sure you played during teh care package hell, tell me you didnt see Usain Bolt running around the map knifing people or air support from about 15 seconds in until the match ended or killing someone and not seeing a killcam because of the javelin glitch.
lol it's the truth buddy. The only glitcher I ever saw was using Javelindom, and I saw him doing it, and never got killed by it. I never noticed the care package glitch. Not saying it didn't happen to me, but I didn't notice it (and I'd assume I would've, considering how OMGWTF GAMEBREAKING it was). The speed thing, nope, unless you're talking about M/L/C, which is not a glitch at all.

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I know no penalty is doled out, but look at the sales of this game.

(I checked today its 1400 points for 19.99 so around $18 for the maps)

But at $18 a pop for say half of the games sold (and Im being generous as closer to 80% will likely get it)

That would be $18 x 7,500,000 copies (It sold 7.5 in the first day, so I am being more then fair here)

Which works out to be $135 million dollars. Seeing as 2 maps are pre-existing, the profit per map is $45 million each
Good math. Your point? "Breaking news: Company tries to make money"

Fignuts 03-17-2010 12:51 AM
Every single game has glitches and possible hacks. The more popular a game is, the more are going to pop up, as there are more people looking for them. And this is the most popular game ever.

I don't really fault IW for this, as playtesting, no matter how many people are on the job, is never 100% foolproof.

Requiem 03-17-2010 12:53 AM
Also, the first day the CP glitch became well-known, it was literally all I saw in I'd guess 80% of the games I played, regardless of gametype.

I watched countless people do it on my own team, and saw no end to it from the other teams. Over. And over. And over. And over.

A friend and I played for a few hours one day. We'd back out after the game was over, if CP glitching was going on. Next game we would join, would have it. If we found a game that didn't have it going on, we'd play one.. give it a game or two, and someone would be doing it again. THAT, is how bad it got. This was 'about' the time I started getting into hardcore too, and while it wasn't nearly as bad, I'd say about 1 out of every 3 hardcore games I went into had CP glitching going on.


_____

And yes, the speed thing was a glitch. Marathon/Lightweight/Care Package WAS glitched. The developers even admitted it was glitched.

Blitz 03-17-2010 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2984407)
And yes, the speed thing was a glitch. Marathon/Lightweight/Care Package WAS glitched. The developers even admitted it was glitched.
How was it a glitch exactly? It's all stuff in the game working as it should. I understand they nerfed Lightweight, which I personally don't think was necessary, but how is it a glitch?

Blitz 03-17-2010 01:16 AM
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What's so retarded, pray tell?

Johnny McNasty 03-17-2010 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 2984381)
And they arent?

Charging a subscription for a game that we already have to pay another fee to play anyway isnt evil?

And what do/would we get by paying this user fee? a few maps once a year? which are already overpriced as is?
This made me chuckle. Especially since what your going crazy about is just a rumor.

alvarado52 03-17-2010 01:35 AM
robble robble robble...you people complain, but you know youll buy the f'ing maps, so how about you STOP complaining or DONT download 'em? The price is abit steep for the DLC standard, but whatchagonnado!?

Requiem 03-17-2010 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Blitz (Post 2984421)
How was it a glitch exactly? It's all stuff in the game working as it should. I understand they nerfed Lightweight, which I personally don't think was necessary, but how is it a glitch?
They didn't nerf lightweight. They fixed the care package's weight. Lightweight didn't get slower with anything else.

Because the combination of Lightweight, and a Care Package (marathon was just so you could run forever.. had nothing to do with the glitch), returned the incorrect speed results. It made you run faster than you should have. The developers said this in their patch notes when they finally fixed it.

How you run while holding a care package and lightweight NOW, is how it was supposed to be.

It was similar to how if you equipped 1887s, FMJ + Akimbo, glitched the range on the shotguns and gave them an ungodly range. It wasn't that the 1887's were overpowered necessarily. It was just broken/glitched.

Well, that's how the care package running was. It wasn't meant to make you run like the flash and make it IMPOSSIBLE for someone to knife you (tactical knife or not). But that combination of things made it happen.

Requiem 03-17-2010 02:09 AM
lol at Minch's neg over something like that

El Fangel 03-17-2010 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Blitz (Post 2984400)
How do you blame a company for hacks? If someone posts some weird HTML on here, and it messes things up a bit, IE Hasney or Xero, do you get mad at Trips?

Nope, but I do expect Trips to fix it in a timely...well you know what I fucking mean.


Javelindom is loooooong gone. And I haven't seen anything about CP glitching since the last patch.

Not saying its still around, but it was for far too long.


This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen you post. No it isn't fucking evil. Rape is evil. Genocide is evil. Monthly game subscriptions, not so much. And again, you're getting mad about something that COULD happen.

Thinking I compared subscription fees to rape and genocide isnt stupid?


They had an internal beta. and of course they have playtesters. That's the fucking purpose of playtesters. Playtesters don't sit around and go through the game leisurely, they try to break it, make it fuck up, etc.. That's how bugs are found. And dude, we're not talking some 8 bit sidescroller here. It's a huge, intricate game, and they're only human. Stuff will slip through the cracks.


Yes, things should slip through the cracks, as it makes since that they should in a game this large but how did they miss such simple things as the javelin glitch/care package glitch/care package run glitch


lol it's the truth buddy. The only glitcher I ever saw was using Javelindom, and I saw him doing it, and never got killed by it. I never noticed the care package glitch. Not saying it didn't happen to me, but I didn't notice it (and I'd assume I would've, considering how OMGWTF GAMEBREAKING it was). The speed thing, nope, unless you're talking about M/L/C, which is not a glitch at all.

Either you are lucky, dont play the game or didnt notice what was going on because for about 2 weeks straight maybe 1 game out of 20 didnt have people using the care package glitch.

M/L/C + Care Package

Before the patch for the fix, holding a CP smoke can in your hand made you run approx 2.33x normal speed.


Good math. Your point? "Breaking news: Company tries to make money"


You are not getting it are you, charging that much money for almost nothing and horrible customer service is just plain wrong.
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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 2984405)
Every single game has glitches and possible hacks. The more popular a game is, the more are going to pop up, as there are more people looking for them. And this is the most popular game ever.

I don't really fault IW for this, as playtesting, no matter how many people are on the job, is never 100% foolproof.
I agree, It is not IW's fault completely, it IS however their responsability to fix it as we cant.

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Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2984407)
Also, the first day the CP glitch became well-known, it was literally all I saw in I'd guess 80% of the games I played, regardless of gametype.

I watched countless people do it on my own team, and saw no end to it from the other teams. Over. And over. And over. And over.

A friend and I played for a few hours one day. We'd back out after the game was over, if CP glitching was going on. Next game we would join, would have it. If we found a game that didn't have it going on, we'd play one.. give it a game or two, and someone would be doing it again. THAT, is how bad it got. This was 'about' the time I started getting into hardcore too, and while it wasn't nearly as bad, I'd say about 1 out of every 3 hardcore games I went into had CP glitching going on.


_____

And yes, the speed thing was a glitch. Marathon/Lightweight/Care Package WAS glitched. The developers even admitted it was glitched.
Everything you said except the hardcore.

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Originally Posted by Blitz (Post 2984421)
How was it a glitch exactly? It's all stuff in the game working as it should. I understand they nerfed Lightweight, which I personally don't think was necessary, but how is it a glitch?
He said Care Package not Commando, also check the note above I made on this.

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Originally Posted by Johnny McNasty (Post 2984459)
This made me chuckle. Especially since what your going crazy about is just a rumor.
People werent fired about distancing themselves from subscription rumors?

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Originally Posted by alvarado52 (Post 2984463)
robble robble robble...you people complain, but you know youll buy the f'ing maps, so how about you STOP complaining or DONT download 'em? The price is abit steep for the DLC standard, but whatchagonnado!?
I didnt buy the map pack because I thought it was bullshit to keep paying for a game that I already paid for once.

Requiem 03-17-2010 02:25 AM
You're paying for the further development of content.

You bought WoW, pay a monthly subscription, AND I bet you bought one or more expansions.

You paid for the game once.. why do you keep paying for it?

Requiem 03-17-2010 02:26 AM
It's worth noting that even though IW has all that money, it's not free to run game servers 24/7 like that. They have to maintain somehow.

Johnny McNasty 03-17-2010 02:28 AM
Nah they did nerf light weight way back around the first month or so after release. Dropped it from a 10% increase in speed to a 7% or something.

Also I hated the Care package running bastards more than anyone, but I wouldn't say it was a glitch, more like an exploit people whored like crazy.

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People werent fired about distancing themselves from subscription rumors?
That is also nothing more than a rumor.

Requiem 03-17-2010 02:30 AM
Oh, well that is not what I was talking about then. I didn't even own the game that long ago.

You say exploit, I say glitch. It was a glitch in the code, that people exploited like crazy. How's that? ;)

El Fangel 03-17-2010 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2984502)
You're paying for the further development of content.

You bought WoW, pay a monthly subscription, AND I bet you bought one or more expansions.

You paid for the game once.. why do you keep paying for it?
Thats why I only play for little spurts, I get pissed that I have to keep paying for it and quit until someone entices me to play again. I have quit again and unlikely to start again.

I didnt pay for either expansion, but thats beside the point.

Its not like they just rehashed the whole starting area and added it in, this add ALOT of new shit when they add an expansion you must admit.

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Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 2984503)
It's worth noting that even though IW has all that money, it's not free to run game servers 24/7 like that. They have to maintain somehow.
Yeah, completely understand that.

However at $60 or more a pop for about 20 million copies, I doubt they are anywheres near short on money.

Requiem 03-17-2010 02:36 AM
They also charge more for that content in store, and charge a monthly fee to help maintain the costs of running those servers and for patching the game.

That's what I'm getting at. How can you justify paying a monthly fee (you still ARE paying a monthly fee, regardless of if you don't do it constantly), but not just SLIGHTLY more (ONCE, no less, possibly twice if more content is released later) for some content and to help with the cost of maintaining such a game.


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