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slik 08-16-2021 05:48 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Showbuzz Daily is back Bryan! They've got the charts and everything. <a href="https://t.co/i3WVjcWBDN">pic.twitter.com/i3WVjcWBDN</a></p>&mdash; Suit Williams �� (@SuitWilliams) <a href="https://twitter.com/SuitWilliams/status/1427365230657605633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 08-16-2021 05:49 PM

So many people over 50 watch Fox News, like 80% of Tucker Carlson's viewership...

Damian Rey 2.0 08-16-2021 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5471438)
Hmmm @ Caster... hope he's "trolling"

It would be a good gimmick for him to start dragging the company in his raps. Maybe build him up to a batch with the main evp Cody when he comes back.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-16-2021 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5471450)
So many people over 50 watch Fox News, like 80% of Tucker Carlson's viewership...

At least they lend they’ll be dying off in the next few decades

slik 08-18-2021 12:48 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I thought these were related ads about a divorce cage match <a href="https://t.co/G5dLJLvSC6">pic.twitter.com/G5dLJLvSC6</a></p>&mdash; ahmed ali akbar (@radbrowndads) <a href="https://twitter.com/radbrowndads/status/1427810292789022726?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jordan 08-18-2021 09:12 AM

It would have been good to feature an "AEW original" on the promo material for Rampage, or Dynamite for that matter. I'd go with Hangman. I think that poster just made me realize that Hangman really should be the next AEW World Champion. Just for the sake of the title's lineage I don't think that the majority of World Champions should be former WWE workers. Jericho, Mox, Omega and then Hangman would be a better way forward than latching onto Punk, Christian or Danielson for the next Champion.

Jordan 08-18-2021 10:06 AM

I read that nobody put a bid on Max Castor's gear auction.

drave 08-18-2021 10:07 AM

He and Baron Corbin should form a cross-promotional tag team.

xrodmuc316 08-18-2021 09:27 PM

How they have not had 5 broken necks already is amazing.


Tom Guycott 08-18-2021 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5471694)
He and Baron Corbin should form a cross-promotional tag team.

I mean, the auction gear *does* match the white shirt with mustard stains Corbin is wearing weekly...

That's good shit!!

#1-norm-fan 08-19-2021 01:25 PM

If they wanna make Punk a heel, here’s a good way to do it.

Have his music hit in Chicago but MJF comes out instead and blasts the crowd for being gullible.

Punk shows up the next week to a huge ovation in whatever town they’re in. He soaks it all in and then reveals that he and MJF actually planned the swerve the week before. He left wrestling because it was ruined largely by nepotism and the internet and he refuses to cater to that by showing up when the internet tells him to because it happens to be the town his parents raised him in.

He then reveals that he will make himself the biggest star in this company on his own terms. And he refuses to ever appear live at a show in Chicago.

From there, you have a few tours through Chicago with only pre-tapes before eventually putting him in a position where he has a title shot at All Out but he has to do it in Chicago. Even better if you manage to stretch it out for 2 years.

The live crowd that night would be insane.

#1-norm-fan 08-19-2021 01:30 PM

... Imagine (and I know this is unrealistic even with Tony Khan’s unlimited bank account) if a year and 6 months in to this douchebag Punk “Fuck the internet and fuck showing up in Chicago” angle, they got Brock. And Brock has bulldozed his way to the title and run roughshod. And now Punk has the chance to avenge the loss that stung him the most but he has to do it in Chicago. There’s your face turn.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-19-2021 03:34 PM

I think khan and AEW would shit the bed to the point that they would lose viewers and momentum if they blew it on all this hype surrounding Punk and building arguably the company’s biggest moment by having him no show Chicago tomorrow.

BUT….I do think when he does go heel, and he absolutely will, I think no showing or going via satellite would be awesome. He can go the Hollywood Rock route.

slik 08-19-2021 04:02 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After they arrived in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> and called out the toughest competition from day one and then survived a brutal Texas Tornado match last night on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a>, there is no doubt: Matt Lee and Jeff Parker, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/2point0?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#2point0</a> are <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllElite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllElite</a>! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/2forTheShow?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#2forTheShow</a> <a href="https://t.co/MRYMh7cCNr">pic.twitter.com/MRYMh7cCNr</a></p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1428445187240566784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Vastardikai 08-19-2021 04:30 PM

We now know who the next team to get buried by the Bucks are.

slik 08-19-2021 06:41 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m betting that excitement from the most anticipated announcement in <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> history at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a> The First Dance will build up through All Out on PPV. We’ll make new fans + we’ll welcome dormant wrestling households worldwide back into the fold; a new era in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> begins tomorrow</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1428479191486537728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sepholio 08-19-2021 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5472117)
I think khan and AEW would shit the bed to the point that they would lose viewers and momentum if they blew it on all this hype surrounding Punk and building arguably the company’s biggest moment by having him no show Chicago tomorrow.

BUT….I do think when he does go heel, and he absolutely will, I think no showing or going via satellite would be awesome. He can go the Hollywood Rock route.

I was also trying to think of a way he could no show and work it into his character and not have it backfire on them. What I came up with is to have his music hit and then AJ comes skipping down to the ring, grabs a mic and says "He's back" and maybe a "But you aren't good enough to get to see him" and then she smiles and drops the mic and skips back up the ramp as the show goes off the air.

Frank Drebin 08-19-2021 08:48 PM

I caved and will go tomorrow. Knowing what the crowd here is like, I can tell you that AEW should never come back to Chicago if they don't deliver tomorrow.

Frank Drebin 08-19-2021 08:50 PM

Also, they have lots of seats available. UC is big you see.

Jordan 08-19-2021 08:58 PM

Awesome, please give a detailed report of the experience. I'm particularly interested in knowing how the tape the Youtube shows and when and if anyone cares about those matches.

xrodmuc316 08-19-2021 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5472165)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m betting that excitement from the most anticipated announcement in <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> history at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a> The First Dance will build up through All Out on PPV. We’ll make new fans + we’ll welcome dormant wrestling households worldwide back into the fold; a new era in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> begins tomorrow</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1428479191486537728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

OMG he is such a Mark. Let us not forget the last time he hyped something up this much and gave us fucking sparklers.

And say what you want about them signing Punk, but calling it a new era, come on. A new era is giving us WWE's 2012 headliner?

rockman725 08-19-2021 09:24 PM

Do I think Punk will be there tomorrow night? Yes

But I don't think he'll be there for what everyone thinks he'll be there for. Why do I have this sneaky suspicion that Punk showing up is only to disrupt any buzz WWE "might" have for Summerslam and he'll really only be there to promote this movie thing he apparently is in!?!

I loved watching Punk work in the past, but him working a match in AEW would not be as big as if he was to go back to WWE.

weather vane 08-19-2021 11:24 PM

Regardless. It’s big. Gonna be fun. We’re talking. Enjoy it.

weather vane 08-19-2021 11:25 PM

Or don’t.. wtf do I care I guess? Talking to myself.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-20-2021 02:07 AM

If AEW didn’t sign Punk or he doesn’t show up tomorrow they might as well close up shop. It would kill any interest that’s been built up the last month. And it would murder all the goodwill they’ve built up with their fans. Punk is going to be there tomorrow.

GD 08-20-2021 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5472203)
If AEW didn’t sign Punk or he doesn’t show up tomorrow they might as well close up shop. It would kill any interest that’s been built up the last month. And it would murder all the goodwill they’ve built up with their fans. Punk is going to be there tomorrow.

WWE has really damaged us :'(

Damian Rey 2.0 08-20-2021 03:42 AM

He’s signed. There’s been too many coincidences, sly inside jokes and references from both AEW talent and Punk himself for this not to be slam dunk. I’m more curious to see how they book it. I’m praying they don’t take the air out of the place by faking a debut to have a heel come out because that would lessen the pop when Punk actually does come out.

I also hope it’s not something like his music hitting, he gets to the stage, looks around and leaves. If he says “I’m back” and leaves that’d be Ok but dammit I wanna hear him promo.

I keep thinking back to the Rocks return and how they just let him have the room. Very little commentary. Just the big return soaking in and feeding off the energy of the crowd while cutting a promo.

slik 08-20-2021 03:53 AM

I'm baffled at how many people I see on twitter who think Punk won't be there...it's been pretty blatantly obvious Punk would be on Rampage for weeks...

Damian Rey 2.0 08-20-2021 04:07 AM

It was obvious the minute they announced outta the blue they were running Chicago on the second ever episode despite having already booked an entire week’s worth of programming in the same city 2 weeks later. At that point it should’ve been more than obvious.

slik 08-20-2021 04:33 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy CM Punk day, my friends.<br><br>There will be some Negative Nancys but remember you’re allowed to like things. �� <a href="https://t.co/m2CIBPQJZf">pic.twitter.com/m2CIBPQJZf</a></p>&mdash; Simon Miller (@SimonMiller316) <a href="https://twitter.com/SimonMiller316/status/1428632792276119553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Supreme Olajuwon 08-20-2021 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5472214)
I'm baffled at how many people I see on twitter who think Punk won't be there...it's been pretty blatantly obvious Punk would be on Rampage for weeks...

To be fair, it is definitely learned behavior. Wrestling does have a long history of over promising and under delivering. Or sometimes just flat out misleading and lying to people.

Vastardikai 08-20-2021 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5472225)
To be fair, it is definitely learned behavior. Wrestling does have a long history of over promising and under delivering. Or sometimes just flat out misleading and lying to people.

"Wouldn't you know who won the pony, my little boy Blue!"

When these rumors started, what did I say?

"I'll Believe it when I see it."

I don't think Punk not showing up will do any long term damage. If you can sell these marks on "Long Term Storytelling" while treating the alleged "Chosen One" like a mopey idiot, have him associate with losers, and then beat him more or less like a jobber, and they STILL think he's the "Chosen One?" Punk not showing up won't be a problem.

Supreme Olajuwon 08-20-2021 10:16 AM

K…

drave 08-20-2021 10:24 AM

Punk not showing would be incredibly harmful.

Frank Drebin 08-20-2021 10:45 AM

I fully expect 80% of tonight's crowd to be adorned in various Punk shirts. If you are going to purposely tease it out for weeks (everything from Darby's best in the world quote, to Tony Khan's cute answers when asked, to Omega's Chick Magnet shirt on Wednesday) then put on a show in front of 15k at the United Center and don't deliver.....don't bother coming back for those three shows in a couple of weeks unless you want the ring constantly covered in beer and piss thrown from the crowd.

That wouldn't be fun post-mania crowd smarking out, it would be a public execution of the entire brand.

I really really hope they learned their lesson from over promising and delivering Christian and don't do the same tonight. The crowd will eat them alive. Not even Danielson could save it.

I don't think they're that stupid and expect Punk to be there. V looking forward to the hot crowd, a sweet promo and possibly what his first angle is going to be.

drave 08-20-2021 11:17 AM

HYPE AS FUCK




but not for smackdown.....

#1-norm-fan 08-20-2021 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5472270)
Punk not showing would be incredibly harmful.

While I kinda love the idea of a swerve for the sake of a bigger story long-term, I think the only way they could actually POSSIBLY pull it off without pissing people off too much is MJF doing the thing where he trolls the crowd, announces Punk isn’t there, just riles them up to riot-levels and then “Flight of the Valkyries” hits.

slik 08-20-2021 12:08 PM

Have a great time tonight @ Drebin!

Frank Drebin 08-20-2021 12:59 PM

Am I the only tpww poster who will be reporting LIVE FROM THE RAMPAGE tonight??

Hopefully I don't run into THAT MONSTER, Kenton Lane.

Lock Jaw 08-20-2021 01:01 PM

HAPPY 30,000TH POST FRANK DREBIN!!!!

What a way to celebrate!!

BigCrippyZ 08-20-2021 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5472302)
While I kinda love the idea of a swerve for the sake of a bigger story long-term, I think the only way they could actually POSSIBLY pull it off without pissing people off too much is MJF doing the thing where he trolls the crowd, announces Punk isn’t there, just riles them up to riot-levels and then “Flight of the Valkyries” hits.

They'd have to get someone to either re-record an interpolation or license a recorded interpolation of the song from someone else. While the song itself is in the public domain, WWE owns the copyright on the sound recording of the song that he used in WWE. Not a huge deal in theory, and certainly doable, just not as quick and easy as it might seem.

xrodmuc316 08-20-2021 05:36 PM

Yeah I fully expect him to be there. AEW hinting at it as hard as they have and not delivering would be akin to ironically enough Punk's last WWE match, the 2014 Royal Rumble, when Daniel Bryan wasnt in it and they even booed Rey Mysterio of all people.

What though if Punk isnt there to wrestle? What if he is coming in on a Mark Henry/Big Show deal as a commentator who might wrestle once in a while. Would that be just as big of a letdown?

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2021 06:19 PM

CM Punk returning is passé at this point. They should have gotten him earlier anyway. And now he’s an old failed MMA fighter who does bad films where they rib him by blasting ghost cum in his face. It’s got to be something else on top of that, and the only people big enough are Bryan and Lesnar. But I won’t care about them in AEW, because AEW fucking sucks.

Wrestling is dead. D-E-A-D. Bringing in guys who didn’t really draw big in their primes isn’t going to fix that. It’s fundamentally broken.

Fandom at all-time low. This fucking sucks.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2021 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5472218)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happy CM Punk day, my friends.<br><br>There will be some Negative Nancys but remember you’re allowed to like things. �� <a href="https://t.co/m2CIBPQJZf">pic.twitter.com/m2CIBPQJZf</a></p>&mdash; Simon Miller (@SimonMiller316) <a href="https://twitter.com/SimonMiller316/status/1428632792276119553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, and you’re allowed to call a spade a spade too. This fucking sucks.

Triple A 08-20-2021 06:32 PM

lol

GD 08-20-2021 06:43 PM

Good to see that the Debbie Downers returned in the nick of time.

Bad News Gertner 08-20-2021 07:05 PM

The Truth Tellers have returned

slik 08-20-2021 07:38 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just saw this. Can’t believe Jay wanted to do this vs get beat up by Seth in order to send Edge a message. <a href="https://t.co/ci8jRkSAyP">https://t.co/ci8jRkSAyP</a></p>&mdash; Brian Gewirtz (@bfg728) <a href="https://twitter.com/bfg728/status/1428830403226386432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sting Fan 08-20-2021 11:31 PM

Noids a gimmick at this point right? Like no one actually takes him seriously do they? Asking for a friend.

rez 08-21-2021 12:00 AM

He ran away, #2 Sting Fan

Vastardikai 08-21-2021 12:22 AM

Now that Punk is there, I am curious what they do with him.

Noid 08-21-2021 12:32 AM

When is Paul Levesque coming to AEW? Too right, comber.

rez 08-21-2021 11:03 PM

The band Nonpoint says they love AEW

Evil Vito 08-22-2021 03:43 PM

Brodie Lee’s TNT Title won was a year ago today :'(

slik 08-23-2021 04:01 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW Rampage on TNT Friday was watched by 1,129,000 viewers total.<br>P18-49: 692,000 (0.53), higher than all but the debut episode of Dynamite in 2019.<br><br>WWE Smackdown on Fox Friday was watched by 2,102,000 viewers total.<br>P18-49: 738,000 (0.57)<br><br>��Read more: <a href="https://t.co/Z0rG5QbZu4">https://t.co/Z0rG5QbZu4</a> <a href="https://t.co/aCztYnSJvm">pic.twitter.com/aCztYnSJvm</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1429895170053529608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

#1-norm-fan 08-23-2021 04:03 PM

That’s a good rating for them. Punk doesn’t move the needle so I don’t know what caused the bump but I hope they can build on it!

Jordan 08-23-2021 04:04 PM

I feel like that's about the best the could've hoped for in a 10pm Friday night time slot. I'm hoping that this weeks Rampage has a stacked card because it being taped on Wednesday leads me to think we could fall even below the debut numbers.

slik 08-23-2021 04:18 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The opening quarter-hour with the return of CM Punk was watched by 1,341,000 viewers on average and 842,000 in the demo (0.65).<a href="https://t.co/Z0rG5QbZu4">https://t.co/Z0rG5QbZu4</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1429897212025319426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 08-23-2021 05:10 PM

Chris Jericho the Demo-ted God now

BigCrippyZ 08-23-2021 11:26 PM

I'm so confused. Didn't someone here claim that AEW would never get 1 million viewers? So strange that they've done it several times since then and even once with their new Friday night 10pm show.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-23-2021 11:40 PM

Dynamite has been in or near the 1m mark for a while now. I wonder how much Punk being confirmed to being on the show will boost those numbers. That’s a stellar number for a Friday night show.

GD 08-23-2021 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5473519)
Dynamite has been in or near the 1m mark for a while now. I wonder how much Punk being confirmed to being on the show will boost those numbers. That’s a stellar number for a Friday night show.

Selfishly, I don't care about ratings. I just love engaging content and good wrestling which they've delivered plenty of. Just look at the WALTER title match from TakeOver. Ratings never define quality just like box office collections. I understand why it is exciting for people but when I heard the rumors for CM Punk showing up on Rampage, my mind never went to ratings. I just wanted to witness it like a fan.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-23-2021 11:53 PM

I don’t care either. It’s just an interesting talking point.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2021 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 5473516)
I'm so confused. Didn't someone here claim that AEW would never get 1 million viewers? So strange that they've done it several times since then and even once with their new Friday night 10pm show.

I think what you’re either failing to comprehend or are deliberately misrepresenting was Gerty saying that he can’t realistically see them getting over 1 million viewers regularly, because there are only 1.5 million or so people who give a shit enough between AEW and NXT. That changes when they change nights, and it also doesn’t factor in anomalous ratings, like signing the biggest free agent in wrestling.

I’ve always said there is no reason AEW shouldn’t be beating Monday Night Raw. Gerty and I respectfully disagree on that. But when you’ve got a 3-hour dinosaur that doesn’t even necessarily warrant being top priority anymore, it shouldn’t be that difficult for a 2-hour program in a prime time slot with unlimited capital to compete with that average. Especially unopposed by other wrestling.

Also, I like the way people are gawking at this 1 million number on a Friday night like it’s such an amazing triumph. What does it say about the other numbers they have been doing? What does it say about the Dynamites that would get <700k which people vehemently defended as wonderful numbers?

This is what happens when you sign actual stars, which is what I said they should do from the start. They’re finally doing what I wanted them to do, in theory, and they reap rewards. Funny that.

I saw the Punk segment. It was alright. I’m not impressed by modern crowds. Punk can talk. The content of his stuff was sound. But it’s AEW. They fuck up every golden goose that waddles their way. And sure enough they did this week delivering a Dynamite, probably their most watched ever, making people scratch their heads. And it’s not just me. It’s most message boards you go to. It’s Wade Keller. It’s people in live attendance.

This company doesn’t know how to do pro-wrestling. Sorry, but they don’t. It’s a bunch of white noise and eventually Daddy’s money secures a free agent and they get a windfall and everyone gets excited before they realize the rest of the show is the drizzling shits. They opened with Matt Hardy? Really? Yeah, nothing like sticking it to the evil WWE with their old-timers like using Jeff’s brother to try and hook people. They don’t even have the better Hardy.

The good things about Punk, Bryan and probably Cole signing were promising. The more good talent they have the less room there is for the horseshit. And those talents could be influential. If what they do sees results, maybe Omega and The Bucks will cut out their wannabe comedy heel acts? Or maybe it just leads to jealous and implosion?

The other thing is that the WWE may have actually accepted an unintentional Trojan horse by no-selling AEW. Because they could no-sell them. Their immediate impact was negligible. But now they have chased enough people with friends, enough people who feel like they can’t express themselves, enough people who aren’t seeing the changes they want to see over. And talent like Punk and Bryan could influence the decisions of other talent to jump. Ashley Flair might go if they treat her father and Andrade right. Kofi Kingston might go since Punk and Bryan have been supporters. The rest of New Day might follow, especially with WWE’s third party thing.

If AEW actually got good, cut the shit, treated talent right, they could be the preferred place for talent to work. But they have kind of already squandered the CM Punk hype. They might get another week out of it, but that first impression? Yeesh. How is it any better than SmackDown? How is it even much better than Raw. You can’t even say that AEW doesn’t put guys in ridiculous costumes.

It’s impossible to get excited about AEW because of anything they do. You have to bring it in. Force it. Because you’ve watched so much bad WWE that you will accept and will forward anything else. I can’t do that, because I won’t settle for one shit company just because I reject another one, and current wrestling can’t play to my emotions anymore. It doesn’t make sense. There is no logic. There is no psychology. There is no fidelity. There is barely any coherent episodic flow to the shows. It’s a bunch of shit thrown at people who, whether captive because of their own attachment to wrestling, or they’ve just fallen for the cult of personality, will eat it up because it is not Vince.

If Vince McMahon was revealed to be the true guy funding AEW, everybody would turn on it in a heartbeat and be way more honest about how this shit sucks. The best thing you can say about that is that at least that type of silly emotional response is still an emotional response. It’s just not connected to the product actually being good for people who want that.

Noid 08-26-2021 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5472375)
Taking the absolute biggest break from wrestling that I ever have in my life. It was probably the thing I loved most. People don’t get it and say “wah, wah, wah — don’t watch then.” Well, it’s finally happening. Fuck wrestling.

Fuck AEW.
Fuck WWE.
Fuck the NWA.
Fuck New Japan.
Fuck classic wrestling.

It’s been easier than I suspect. I’ve checked the news a couple of times and listened to some Cornette YouTube clips (not his full show, I’m even off criticism of wrestling). I think I might be properly done soon.

Thanks for the memories, wrestling. You got me through some weird times growing up. But it’s time I realized you haven’t been good to me in a long, long time. Fuck off and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

The WWE surely gets a lot of the blame, but AEW was it for me. I just can’t. The self-indulgent disregard of there being any sort of art to this. The complete waste of potential. I went from being optimistic about wrestling to seeing so clearly that this is not going to be something a reasonable person can enjoy in record time.

So a special big fuck you to AEW for that. And also fuck TPWW for housing some of the most insecure and gormless little marks. I was right when I said WWE sucked way back, and I am right when I say AEW sucks right now.

I’m off to read some books or something.

Wat the bloody root was this about? Too right, mate.

Jordan 08-26-2021 10:17 AM

An official All Out prediction. Ric Flair will accompany Andrade to the ring for his match against PAC and will cause the distraction for the finish.

drave 08-26-2021 10:21 AM

This before or after Hardy wins the world title?

Jordan 08-26-2021 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5474136)
This before or after Hardy wins the world title?

According to Gavin the Hardy push may get "pulled" down to the TNT Championship. Likely now is a 3-Way Dance match at All In with Miro vs Orange Cassidy vs Matt Hardy. It is said that Hardy requested to be moved out of the planned World Championship program because he didn't want to take the heat from the eventual planned program with Bryan Danielson and Kenny Omega.

It is said that when Matt pins Miro clean in the ring that he will then begin an initial championship program with Darby Allin and Sting leading to strong victories over both before landing a main event Winter is Coming Program against CM Punk. Punk has said in recent interviews that he is a "TNT guy" so it is possible that Hardy's run could end at that point and Punk will carry the TNT mantle forward.

It seems that the planned belt collector gimmick for Matt may be put on hold altogether but that Impact is open to the idea of a Big Money program with Matt and Christian exclusive to Impact to help boost their paid Youtube subscription service.

drave 08-26-2021 11:28 AM

good. Keep Hardy and Christian on IMPACT where they should be.

Jordan 08-27-2021 10:15 AM

I just read that AEW will soon be taping Dark in a studio setting. This was reported when Rampage was announced and now it seems to be in the works. I am wondering if AEW will team up with NWA and use the studio that they use for tapings?

You don't want to oversaturate the market for NWA, but I can't really imagine where they will shoot otherwise. I think that the old school studio wrestling approach will do great for Dark. I haven't watched Dark in over a year but I will certainly check out whatever they do next as far as the studio goes.

Want to note that the last episode of Elevation has 500k views on Youtube, uploaded 3 days ago and for Dark 337k views uploaded 2 days ago. Viewership over time seems to vary depending on the show.

slik 08-27-2021 01:11 PM

More info on that

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing that the possible new home for AEW Dark will be in Universal Studios in Orlando at a Sound Stage similar to what IMPACT use to do. <br><br>Wanted to add a little more to the story <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@davemeltzerWON</a> reported on in this week's Observer newsletter. <a href="https://t.co/zLMKMdkSoX">pic.twitter.com/zLMKMdkSoX</a></p>&mdash; Andrew Zarian (@AndrewZarian) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewZarian/status/1431301563386007558?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jordan 08-27-2021 01:19 PM

OH that's nice, should have a decent crowd for it at Orlando.

Jordan 08-27-2021 02:31 PM

Lot's of festivals and parades and such being canceled in NYC due to Covid concerns. No big events that I have heard of though. And the US Open is going as planned which takes place at Arthur Ashe's smaller stadium, maybe Ashe as well I'm not sure exactly. They are running without a mask mandate or vaccine mandate as well, I don't know how that is possible but that's what I've read.

Supreme Olajuwon 08-27-2021 03:32 PM

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000533064447

Pretty good Tony Khan interview on the Le Batard Show. He talks about the Punk stuff but also talks a lot about Vince. He’s actually pretty complimentary.

Evil Vito 08-27-2021 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5474340)
Lot's of festivals and parades and such being canceled in NYC due to Covid concerns. No big events that I have heard of though. And the US Open is going as planned which takes place at Arthur Ashe's smaller stadium, maybe Ashe as well I'm not sure exactly. They are running without a mask mandate or vaccine mandate as well, I don't know how that is possible but that's what I've read.

Just gotta get through one more month. Grand Slam being cancelled/postponed would be a real gut punch.

I'm assuming if it's "postponed indefinitely" it'll be one of those deals where it's your call to either get a refund or just keep your seats reserved for whenever the new date is. But I don't wanna think about that.

Mr. Nerfect 08-27-2021 04:45 PM

Don’t care if they get fucked up, to be honest. American stupidity deserves what it gets.

Supreme Olajuwon 08-27-2021 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5474356)
Don’t care if they get fucked up, to be honest. American stupidity deserves what it gets.

Hey bud I saw the other day you posted you were taking a break from wrestling and you’re already back. I really think it would be beneficial to your well being if you really did take a break for a while. You’re clearly unhappy and it appears to be affecting your mental health. Maybe some time away and reflection would be good for you.

Jordan 08-27-2021 09:45 PM

Potential Huge Spoiler for All Out

SPOILER: show
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Exclusive: Bryan Danielson Set To Make His AEW Debut At All Out <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWAllOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWAllOut</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllOut</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BryanDanielson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BryanDanielson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a> <br><br>via <a href="https://twitter.com/Casshooole?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Casshooole</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZcNScB7ZuD">https://t.co/ZcNScB7ZuD</a></p>&mdash; BODYSLAM.NET (@BodyslamNet) <a href="https://twitter.com/BodyslamNet/status/1431423860994367490?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 08-27-2021 11:52 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: AEW Dynamite is coming to Long Island NY 12/8. UBS Arena <a href="https://t.co/kjVj5vQ52T">pic.twitter.com/kjVj5vQ52T</a></p>&mdash; Andrew Zarian (@AndrewZarian) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewZarian/status/1431433608867241984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0 08-28-2021 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5474407)
Potential Huge Spoiler for All Out

SPOILER: show
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Exclusive: Bryan Danielson Set To Make His AEW Debut At All Out <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWAllOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWAllOut</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllOut</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BryanDanielson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BryanDanielson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRampage?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRampage</a> <br><br>via <a href="https://twitter.com/Casshooole?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Casshooole</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZcNScB7ZuD">https://t.co/ZcNScB7ZuD</a></p>&mdash; BODYSLAM.NET (@BodyslamNet) <a href="https://twitter.com/BodyslamNet/status/1431423860994367490?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I dunno. Feel like this would take away from Punk’s in ring return. Would prefer it to be on TV where everyone can watch.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-28-2021 12:05 AM

I’ll be in Mexico next weekend and won’t get to watch all out till Monday evening. Which is a bummer because there’s an AMC theater playing it for $25 admission and a friend mine wanted to go. Seems like it’d be a cool environment. Live crowd vibe but with the benefit of at home style viewing and commentary. Next time.

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2021 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5474388)
Hey bud I saw the other day you posted you were taking a break from wrestling and you’re already back. I really think it would be beneficial to your well being if you really did take a break for a while. You’re clearly unhappy and it appears to be affecting your mental health. Maybe some time away and reflection would be good for you.

I’m not watching wrestling. Sometimes I just like laughing at how shit AEW is doing. Mental health is great, thanks. You’re the dickheads who do mental gymnastics to make this shit bearable.

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2021 01:16 AM

Who could care about Danielson coming in at this point? He’s not going to matter outside his first, maybe second, appearance. Because they fuck up EVERYTHING.

This reminds me of when people were excited that Asuka was getting called up to the main roster. How did that work out?

Sepholio 08-29-2021 02:55 AM

It worked out great!

*cries in the corner*

GD 08-29-2021 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5474388)
Hey bud I saw the other day you posted you were taking a break from wrestling and you’re already back. I really think it would be beneficial to your well being if you really did take a break for a while. You’re clearly unhappy and it appears to be affecting your mental health. Maybe some time away and reflection would be good for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5474661)
I’m not watching wrestling. Sometimes I just like laughing at how shit AEW is doing. Mental health is great, thanks. You’re the dickheads who do mental gymnastics to make this shit bearable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5474662)
Who could care about Danielson coming in at this point? He’s not going to matter outside his first, maybe second, appearance. Because they fuck up EVERYTHING.

This reminds me of when people were excited that Asuka was getting called up to the main roster. How did that work out?

Fuck you for showing concern, Supreme.

#1-norm-fan 08-29-2021 02:04 PM

Cornette on this week’s Drive-Thru:

“They (WWE) are handing this over in a quick period of time and don’t even realize it, so this is very interesting. And I will not now poo poo AEW’s chances over the next few months like I had been poo pooping over the last couple years because sooner or later a blind squirrel finds a nut. Whether this has been serendipity, planning or quite a bit of both, they’ve changed the fucking stratosphere here a bit in the past month and it looks like it will continue to be that way because the other side is the gang that can’t shoot straight.

I’m amazed. I am amazed at the reversal. Suddenly Tony Khan has just gone behind Vince and waist locked him. And he’s fixing to Iron Shiek/Brian Blair his ass if he’s not careful”

Supreme Olajuwon 08-29-2021 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5474661)
I’m not watching wrestling. Sometimes I just like laughing at how shit AEW is doing. Mental health is great, thanks. You’re the dickheads who do mental gymnastics to make this shit bearable.

You know more about AEW than anyone else here. You write multi paragraph essays about how much you hate it and you comment on every single show. It’s the only thing you post about. And you’ve been doing this for months. You get furious at us because we like something you don’t. This behavior isn’t healthy. You really should think about stepping away.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-29-2021 07:32 PM

Whether you like or enjoy AEW, there’s no logical way to describe how they’re doing as shit. They just got a third hour TV, signed the biggest free agent in wrestling, are likely plucking one of the biggest and most organically over stars of the last decade, and are getting paid more for switching networks next year while also gaining more revenue via semi regular TV showcases like clash of the champions used to be.

AEW is not for everybody, obviously. But they’re also obviously very successful to this point and things are only looking up. Poor noid seems to have fallen off the deep end now that Cornette is being complimentary of them, even if it’s in a backhanded way.

Evil Vito 08-30-2021 12:55 PM

Not gonna lie I’m mildly salty that Bryan’s debut pop is probably happening at All Out instead of Grand Slam.

Of course, if Bryan actually has his first AEW match at Grand Slam it’s a worthwhile trade-off.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-30-2021 01:43 PM

I too want them to save him for TV but with things tightening up I get not wanting to take the risk

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2021 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5474734)
You know more about AEW than anyone else here. You write multi paragraph essays about how much you hate it and you comment on every single show. It’s the only thing you post about. And you’ve been doing this for months. You get furious at us because we like something you don’t. This behavior isn’t healthy. You really should think about stepping away.

You’re projecting hard there, bud.

I get annoyed when people say something is good and it isn’t. People are allowed to like what they like. But the irony is that people get salty at my perfectly valid opinion because it doesn’t fall in line with their narrative.

You’re literally trying to stop me from liking what I like and not liking what I don’t with this post. Funny how none of that comes up when it comes to a declining WWE over the past 20 years. Well, unless it’s someone pointing out that Alexa Bliss isn’t very good.

What bothers people so much is that I’m right. That’s really it. If they could dismiss my opinion, they’d do it, but the uncomfortable truth is that I’m right on the money with these shit-shows, and people just don’t want to hear about it in regards to their darlings.

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2021 04:02 PM

The WWE is their own worst enemy and the best friend to AEW right now. AEW is also its own worst enemy. Neither of these promotions can avoid shooting themselves in the foot.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-30-2021 04:37 PM

Rampage pulling 722k for episode 3. Lowest rating so far but still better than I was expecting given it was taped and Dynamite was mediocre at best.

EDIT: apparently they were #1 in the 18-49 demo so that’s probably a win.

RE REDIT: #1 for cable originals, whatever tf that means. Stupid Twitter and is lacking context

xrodmuc316 08-30-2021 05:39 PM

So AEW lost every new viewer they got from Punk's return in a single week? That's rough man.

Vastardikai 08-30-2021 05:49 PM

This feels all so familiar to me... almost like when TNA did it.

weather vane 08-30-2021 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5474925)
You’re projecting hard there, bud.

I get annoyed when people say something is good and it isn’t. People are allowed to like what they like. But the irony is that people get salty at my perfectly valid opinion because it doesn’t fall in line with their narrative.

You’re literally trying to stop me from liking what I like and not liking what I don’t with this post. Funny how none of that comes up when it comes to a declining WWE over the past 20 years. Well, unless it’s someone pointing out that Alexa Bliss isn’t very good.

What bothers people so much is that I’m right. That’s really it. If they could dismiss my opinion, they’d do it, but the uncomfortable truth is that I’m right on the money with these shit-shows, and people just don’t want to hear about it in regards to their darlings.

The decline into a mad man.

Mr. Nerfect 08-31-2021 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5474975)
This feels all so familiar to me... almost like when TNA did it.

They’ve got a 1.1 problem too.

Whenever there is slight interest in AEW, the product deflects people.

James Steele 08-31-2021 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5472375)
Taking the absolute biggest break from wrestling that I ever have in my life. It was probably the thing I loved most. People don’t get it and say “wah, wah, wah — don’t watch then.” Well, it’s finally happening. Fuck wrestling.

Fuck AEW.
Fuck WWE.
Fuck the NWA.
Fuck New Japan.
Fuck classic wrestling.

It’s been easier than I suspect. I’ve checked the news a couple of times and listened to some Cornette YouTube clips (not his full show, I’m even off criticism of wrestling). I think I might be properly done soon.

Thanks for the memories, wrestling. You got me through some weird times growing up. But it’s time I realized you haven’t been good to me in a long, long time. Fuck off and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

The WWE surely gets a lot of the blame, but AEW was it for me. I just can’t. The self-indulgent disregard of there being any sort of art to this. The complete waste of potential. I went from being optimistic about wrestling to seeing so clearly that this is not going to be something a reasonable person can enjoy in record time.

So a special big fuck you to AEW for that. And also fuck TPWW for housing some of the most insecure and gormless little marks. I was right when I said WWE sucked way back, and I am right when I say AEW sucks right now.

I’m off to read some books or something.


drave 08-31-2021 09:46 AM

how long was "the longest break ever"?

James Steele 08-31-2021 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5475125)
how long was "the longest break ever"?

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