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Big Vic 09-01-2020 02:20 PM

Guru Dave's last name is Meltzer

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2020 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5370441)
Retribution only hates 1 day a week


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: Retribution To Be Exclusive To WWE Raw <a href="https://t.co/5QjwbrFxkH">https://t.co/5QjwbrFxkH</a></p>&mdash; Fightful Wrestling (@FightfulWrestle) <a href="https://twitter.com/FightfulWrestle/status/1300798828895850499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Guess Retribution fears Roman Reigns the most since they haven't been on any shows he's been on since his return.

Sixx 09-01-2020 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5370486)
Guru Dave's last name is Meltzer

Classic Hindu name.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-01-2020 03:50 PM

The Big Show Show has been chokeslammed into cancelation.

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2020 04:25 PM

Apparently spoilers for the 60-minute Iron Man match on tonight's episode of NXT have been leaked via PWI and the finish is going to be one of the dumbest ever in WWE/NXT history.

slik 09-01-2020 04:47 PM

I saw that, it sounds pretty dumb.

Good ol bait and switch, fans favorite type of booking.

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2020 05:04 PM

Outside of the women's division booking which generally has been handled very well for the most part, it does feel like NXT just books things week to week these days. Its not Vince McMahon level of badness but Triple H's plans to improve ratings and direction has been leaning more towards Vince's mindset for shows.

Ever since they went to USA Network, more of main roster bad habits with creative and booking have been gradually seeping into NXT Creative.

Sixx 09-01-2020 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5370508)
I saw that, it sounds pretty dumb.

Good ol bait and switch, fans favorite type of booking.

What's the finish?

screech 09-01-2020 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5370509)
Outside of the women's division booking which generally has been handled very well for the most part, it does feel like NXT just books things week to week these days. Its not Vince McMahon level of badness but Triple H's plans to improve ratings and direction has been leaning more towards Vince's mindset for shows.

Ever since they went to USA Network, more of main roster bad habits with creative and booking have been gradually seeping into NXT Creative.

Do you think because they're "on TV" now, they think the product has to be kinda the same as the other shows because "brand synergy" or some shit?

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2020 07:00 PM

I'd say a mix of that and them losing their long term booking flexibility by switching from a monthly taped schedule to a weekly one.

Being in a war with AEW hasn't helped either since a lot of their booking has felt a lot more reactionary. Its also why they've been constantly tossing out TakeOver quality matches and title matches with little to no build to spike ratings and try to drive interest away from AEW.

In terms of the wrestling itself, the quality has mostly remained unchanged but another negative aspect has been popping up these past few years. The brand used to be a nice mix of developmental and indie stars getting the spotlight treatment but in recent years, NXT has leaned heavily towards pre-made indie stars getting the real focus and spotlight. John Pollock mentioned earlier in the year how recent TakeOver events barely have anyone from WWE's actual developmental system on the cards.

Bad News Gertner 09-01-2020 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5370508)
I saw that, it sounds pretty dumb.

Good ol bait and switch, fans favorite type of booking.

I don't think it's bad at all. It's a logical finish.

Emperor Smeat 09-01-2020 07:34 PM

For a 60-minute 4-way Iron Man match that's a pretty terrible finish in store for tonight's NXT show.

Half of tonight's NXT is going to be just that match and the other half probably is going to be heavier on the commercial breaks side depending on how breaks are handled for the Iron Man match.

Lock Jaw 09-01-2020 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SixxT9 (Post 5370512)
What's the finish?


slik 09-01-2020 07:46 PM

The finish is

SPOILER: show

no one wins the ironman match, it's a tie so it can drag on to next week

Supreme Olajuwon 09-01-2020 07:49 PM


Emperor Smeat 09-01-2020 08:08 PM

According to WrestleVotes, this was the other plan being considered for tonight's NXT title Iron Man match.

SPOILER: show
Pat McAfee would have shown up to cost Adam Cole the chance to win the title. A winner would have been crowned unlike the plan that was used instead.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The two ideas for the finish of tonight’s Iron Man match were either Pat McAfee costing Adam Cole the match -OR- the match ending after 60 minutes tied and starting the sudden death overtime next week as the show comes on the air.</p>&mdash; WrestleVotes (@WrestleVotes) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleVotes/status/1300942070761304065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316 09-01-2020 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370482)
lol fuck off with that. You made a heavy generalization about AEW vs. WWE (as you've been doing for pages), now you're bitching out because I called you on it.

Except I clearly didn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370007)
Guys, Dave Meltzer said WWE is going to reair NXT on Syfy, not because they are going to get paid for it, and not because some of the fans might not be able to watch it a day earlier in the week.

Nope, they are going to air a rerun of the previous day episode because they are super scared AEW will get better ratings unopposed. Just like they got a better rating unopposed last Thursday. Oh wait, they didn't though, but plans change, that will be $11.99.

He's such a good journalist!

Where exactly does that say @Screech??

So you called me out for something I didn't say. You can fuck off with that lol

Vastardikai 09-01-2020 11:56 PM

40 years ago today, Sting wrestled the Undertaker. It was Surfer Sting and "Mean Marc," but still. https://wwfoldschool.com/wp-content/...m-WCW-1990.jpg

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2020 12:30 AM

There's nothing wrong with a non-finish in wrestling. Internet wrestling fans are the fucking worst. Bunch of marks who don't even know that they are marks/resent the idea and look down on other marks.

Sixx 09-02-2020 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SixxT9 (Post 5370500)
Classic Hindu name.

Hahaha, this apparently warrants a neg rep.

screech 09-02-2020 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370603)
Except I clearly didn't.



Where exactly does that say @Screech??

So you called me out for something I didn't say. You can fuck off with that lol

So your response was to quote a completely different thing. You really are a fucking idiot.

screech 09-02-2020 06:54 AM

Since you can't read your own shit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370253)

Nothing WWE does is good, it is all a horrible attempt to hurt AEW. Nothing AEW does is bad, everything they do is so great it is scaring Vince McMahon to death.

Give me a break.

This is what I was referring to, you simpleton. You have it in your head that people here really believe this, and take offense when it's pointed out to you that this isn't the case.

xrodmuc316 09-02-2020 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370633)
This is what I was referring to, you simpleton. You have it in your head that people here really believe this, and take offense when it's pointed out to you that this isn't the case.

No, I have it in my head that the people on the AEW payroll, including the supposed legitimate journalist like Meltzer, continually push that narrative.

I do my best not to attack other posters personally, but if you can't understand that when I write Dave Meltzer or AEW as a whole that it doesn't mean the 12 other posters on TPWW, that means you are the simpleton. Seriously.

xrodmuc316 09-02-2020 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370632)
So your response was to quote a completely different thing. You really are a fucking idiot.

Christ

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370253)
I'm not crapping on AEW for that, it's the narrative I have the issue with. USA knew they were looking Smackdown going all the way back to June 2018, which by the way, was months before All In, so months and months before AEW was even a thing. Is it a coincidence then that USA added NXT at the same time they were looking Smackdown, or was it something they were going to do all along.

WWE doesn't just get to tell USA that USA has to give them 2 hours on Wednesday nights and pay WWE a million dollars a week to do that.

If it was that easy why wouldn't Vince tell other networks they have to give him a show and pay him money for it?

NXT is on USA because USA wanted to replace the 2 hours of wrestling they were losing with a different 2 hours of wrestling. Meltzer and AEW talk about it constantly, Vince is afraid AEW, Vince put show on to hurt AEW, Vince bad, AEW good.

AEW didn't HAVE to go with TNT. They had so many offers, at least according to Meltzer, that if they wanted to run unopposed on Tuesday nights, then they could have. They took the TNT deal on Wednesdays because it was the best deal. That doesn't make them victims of WWE, no matter how much they want to sell that narrative to be the cool underdogs that are taking it to Vince McMahon. The same Vince McMahon that held them all back, and now they are gonna show him!

The entirety of AEW is a gimmick. It's a whole company portraying a kayfabe gimmick. It is carny at carny's finest, but at what point do they stand on their own? Every interview is about how WWE is bad, how everything they do is with the sole purpose of hurting AEW. Even the journalist in their payroll can't keep from falling all over themselves to push the narrative.

Nothing WWE does is good, it is all a horrible attempt to hurt AEW. Nothing AEW does is bad, everything they do is so great it is scaring Vince McMahon to death.

Give me a break.

Just because I responded to you doesn't mean I changed the my stance from Meltzer and AEW to you. I can't teach you how to understand what you read, and you selecting a small portion of what I wrote to pretend you are right and that the whole posts was about them and not you does not prove your point, does not change what I wrote, and does not make you come across as making a valid counterpoint.

I made the previous text BOLD FOR you. Again, doesn't say anything about you, other than your lack of ability to understand previous paragraphs lead to the following paragraphs, and they are connected in the overall point.

screech 09-02-2020 08:33 AM

This is not difficult
 
Holy shit, dude. I was responding to a specific statement you made that lines up with many of your posts re: AEW vs. WWE, and you're coming at me with unrelated essays as a "gotcha." Not even talking about your odd obsession with Meltzer.

My point was that you spend a lot of time criticizing AEW for weird reasons, then get super defensive when this is brought up to you. I'm not sure how much more clear I can be.

drave 09-02-2020 08:34 AM

Pepsi Clear, maybe

screech 09-02-2020 08:38 AM

I had a Crystal Pepsi not long ago. I did not enjoy it like I thought I would.

Sixx 09-02-2020 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370649)
I had a Crystal Pepsi not long ago. I did not enjoy it like I thought I would.

Dude, it was supposed to be METH, crystal meth.

screech 09-02-2020 08:58 AM

Well, shit. I could've used you!

xrodmuc316 09-02-2020 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370647)
Holy shit, dude. I was responding to a specific statement you made that lines up with many of your posts re: AEW vs. WWE, and you're coming at me with unrelated essays as a "gotcha." Not even talking about your odd obsession with Meltzer.

My point was that you spend a lot of time criticizing AEW for weird reasons, then get super defensive when this is brought up to you. I'm not sure how much more clear I can be.

Because you inferred that when I said Meltzer I somehow meant you and other people here.

You asked me to quote where YOU or anybody else here said what I said Meltzer/AEW continually spew.

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370285)
Please quote exactly where I made any reference to this. Better yet, quote where anyone here has said anything like this.

I asked YOU to quote where I was referring to you or anybody else here, and you haven't because, like I've been trying to explain to you, unless you are in fact Dave Meltzer, I did NOT refer to YOU, nor anybody else here.

I cannot defend a position that I did not make anywhere but in your poor interpretation of something I posted about that AEW says in interviews/podcasts/promos/tweets etc.

I will tell you what, link me to the podcast interview where you as a representative of AEW have an interview, and I'll listen to it in full, and if I am wrong that you, as a representative of AEW, did not actually go out of your way to say anything related to WWE being bad, and AEW being good, then I will go right ahead and apologize and never make another post at TPWW.

I am eagerly awaiting. I am sure your response will be brilliant.

screech 09-02-2020 09:34 AM

Fucking hell
 
Why is this so hard for you? You said this

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370253)

Nothing WWE does is good, it is all a horrible attempt to hurt AEW. Nothing AEW does is bad, everything they do is so great it is scaring Vince McMahon to death.

Give me a break.

inferring that people here [in this specific case, me] believe this. I asked you to quote where I made reference to this. You responded with a bunch of essays about unrelated shit because you couldn't figure out what I was asking.

I did not ask about your weird Dave Meltzer fixation, or whatever else you went on about. I asked about one specific point that you made. I cannot make this any easier for you.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-02-2020 09:51 AM

XRod just doesn't know when to bow out. When pretty much 100% of the people responding think you're wrong - and also a total fucking dillweed - you should probably take a chill pill. Too proud to back down, when it's what would put an end to all of this idiocy.

drave 09-02-2020 10:11 AM

so would crystal meth, as sixx said :)

xrodmuc316 09-02-2020 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370660)
Why is this so hard for you? You said this



inferring that people here [in this specific case, me] believe this. I asked you to quote where I made reference to this. You responded with a bunch of essays about unrelated shit because you couldn't figure out what I was asking.

I did not ask about your weird Dave Meltzer fixation, or whatever else you went on about. I asked about one specific point that you made. I cannot make this any easier for you.

Holy shit man, YES I wrote that as the narrative AEW and Meltzer put out. Not that you or anybody in TPWW do it, that AEW and Meltzer do.

It has absoFUCKINGlutely nothing to do with you.

Just because I am responding to you doesn't mean it is about you, it means I am trying to tell you for the 80th time...

IT
Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370285)
Please quote exactly where I made any reference to this. Better yet, quote where anyone here has said anything like this.

IT IS SOLELY ABOUT HOW AEW AND IT'S ON THE TAKE "JOURNALIST" PORTRAY AEW AND WWE. IT HAS JACK SHIT TO DO WITH YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT DOES NOT WORK FOR AEW.I

I can't quote where you said it, because I never said you fucking said it.

xrodmuc316 09-02-2020 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5370664)
XRod just doesn't know when to bow out. When pretty much 100% of the people responding think you're wrong - and also a total fucking dillweed - you should probably take a chill pill. Too proud to back down, when it's what would put an end to all of this idiocy.

You are just as dense as he is. Why the fuck would I back down and say I'm sorry you guys read AEW and Meltzer as Screech?? It is not my fault you "dillweeds" can't comprehend what you read. That is your own issue to deal with.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 11:36 AM

The Meltzer shit is so dumb

drave 09-02-2020 11:39 AM

What about the meltzer sheep. Are they sheep in the demos or no?

screech 09-02-2020 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370676)
Holy shit man, YES I wrote that as the narrative AEW and Meltzer put out. Not that you or anybody in TPWW do it, that AEW and Meltzer do.

See? You didn't need five fucking essays and a tantrum to just say that.

I mean, you have dumped on people who like AEW for really weird reasons, but I suppose IN THIS CASE you were [again] oddly fixated on Meltzer.

xrodmuc316 09-02-2020 11:46 AM

https://i.imgflip.com/4dlfoy.jpg

screech 09-02-2020 11:49 AM

The Meltzer shit is weird, though. You clearly don't like what he has to say ever. Why bother read it? Seems like you're riling yourself up for no real benefit.

screech 09-02-2020 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370687)

:lol:

Man, that's fantastic. You can't handle direct questions based on your own bullshit quoted to you, so you tout this as a win to paint me as some kind of "villain." Amazing.

GD 09-02-2020 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370687)

Oh jeez! You’ve done it now, screech.

screech 09-02-2020 11:55 AM

Is there an award for being blocked by the new Forum Dunce?

xrodmuc316 09-02-2020 11:55 AM

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/202...-media-podcast

Took Renee 10 days :rofl:

screech 09-02-2020 11:57 AM

That was being reported/hinted at days after it happened. Not surprising at all.

xrodmuc316 09-02-2020 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370689)
:lol:

Man, that's fantastic. You can't handle direct questions based on your own bullshit quoted to you, so you tout this as a win to paint me as some kind of "villain." Amazing.

Naw, it just means I don't have to see your posts until I am prepared to deal with idiocy.

You are happy I

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370686)
See? You didn't need five fucking essays and a tantrum to just say that.

but it's the exact thing I said about 10 times before you FINALLY were able to comprehend it.

But that makes me the dunce? At least call me a dunce for the right reason, such as I am a big enough dunce to try and explain something so simple to you for 2 days. Thanks for understanding, eventually.

screech 09-02-2020 12:06 PM

lol I asked you a direct question with a direct quote from you and you responded with multiple essays that didn't answer it. Don't try to sound smart now that you've been called on being too dumb to decipher your own words.

GD 09-02-2020 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370697)
lol I asked you a direct question with a direct quote from you and you responded with multiple essays that didn't answer it. Don't try to sound smart now that you've been called on being too dumb to decipher your own words.


xrodmuc316 09-02-2020 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370697)
lol I asked you a direct question with a direct quote from you and you responded with multiple essays that didn't answer it. Don't try to sound smart now that you've been called on being too dumb to decipher your own words.

And I responded right away.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370466)
Quote where I said that YOU said that.

Unless you or anybody here has been Dave Meltzer or a member of AEW'S roster all along, I wasn't referring to you or any other poster here.


That was the answer, that I did not say YOU said that.

Look at the post again...

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370253)
I'm not crapping on AEW for that, it's the narrative I have the issue with. USA knew they were looking Smackdown going all the way back to June 2018, which by the way, was months before All In, so months and months before AEW was even a thing. Is it a coincidence then that USA added NXT at the same time they were looking Smackdown, or was it something they were going to do all along.

WWE doesn't just get to tell USA that USA has to give them 2 hours on Wednesday nights and pay WWE a million dollars a week to do that.

If it was that easy why wouldn't Vince tell other networks they have to give him a show and pay him money for it?

NXT is on USA because USA wanted to replace the 2 hours of wrestling they were losing with a different 2 hours of wrestling. Meltzer and AEW talk about it constantly, Vince is afraid AEW, Vince put show on to hurt AEW, Vince bad, AEW good.

AEW didn't HAVE to go with TNT. They had so many offers, at least according to Meltzer, that if they wanted to run unopposed on Tuesday nights, then they could have. They took the TNT deal on Wednesdays because it was the best deal. That doesn't make them victims of WWE, no matter how much they want to sell that narrative to be the cool underdogs that are taking it to Vince McMahon. The same Vince McMahon that held them all back, and now they are gonna show him!

The entirety of AEW is a gimmick. It's a whole company portraying a kayfabe gimmick. It is carny at carny's finest, but at what point do they stand on their own? Every interview is about how WWE is bad, how everything they do is with the sole purpose of hurting AEW. Even the journalist in their payroll can't keep from falling all over themselves to push the narrative.

Nothing WWE does is good, it is all a horrible attempt to hurt AEW. Nothing AEW does is bad, everything they do is so great it is scaring Vince McMahon to death.


Give me a break.

The entire post was about what AEW puts forth, I never said you or anybody else other than the company AEW and it's employees. You rejected that reply and continued to complain about it, then finally accepted that I answered your question with the same answer I have been giving you since you originally asked.

screech 09-02-2020 12:30 PM

The fact that you can't see the connection between what I quoted and so many of your posts complaining about that very thing says a lot.

GD 09-02-2020 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5370704)
The fact that you can't see the connection between what I quoted and so many of your posts complaining about that very thing says a lot.


Savio 09-02-2020 12:42 PM

MEGAAAA BULLLYYY Dave

screech 09-02-2020 12:45 PM

Guru Dave and I were once nominated for a Feud of the Year Spammy.

Look at us now.

Damian Rey 2.0 09-02-2020 12:49 PM

Employee unhappy with how employer handled an issue and vents about it. More on this revelation at 11.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 04:55 PM

I've never understood why Meltzer gets people so upset

Emperor Smeat 09-02-2020 05:10 PM

Seems WWE might be the first one to blink in the Wednesday Night War since WrestleVotes reported WWE officials have had recent talks over the idea of moving NXT to a different night due to the viewership and rankings bumps its been getting in recent weeks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrestlingInc
There have been talks of moving the weekly WWE NXT TV show to another night on the USA Network schedule.

It was reported today by @Wrestlevotes that over the past month or so, WWE officials have had discussions regarding a possible move from Wednesday nights. No decision is expected to be made any time soon, but talks are ongoing.

Last night saw the first NXT Super Tuesday episode air on the USA Network due to the NHL Playoffs. NXT will also air next Tuesday night but the show will return to the normal Wednesday timeslot on September 16. It was noted that the ratings for last night and next week's shows might have some impact on the decision to move NXT to another night.

There is no word on if they are considering Tuesday nights for the potential new home for NXT, or another night.

Fightful's Sean Ross Sapp also hinted on Twitter late last month over the likelihood NXT gets moved off of Wednesdays soon if the numbers for their unopposed shows were very good.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm very excited to see AEW &amp; NXT numbers the next two weeks. Both get a Wednesday unopposed, AEW gets a Thursday, and NXT gets a Tuesday, which is where I think NXT will end up soon enough</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1298116377962860544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316 09-02-2020 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5370753)
Seems WWE might be the first one to blink in the Wednesday Night War since WrestleVotes reported WWE officials have had recent talks over the idea of moving NXT to a different night due to the viewership and rankings bumps its been getting in recent weeks.



Fightful's Sean Ross Sapp also hinted on Twitter late last month over the likelihood NXT gets moved off of Wednesdays soon if the numbers for their unopposed shows were very good.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm very excited to see AEW &amp; NXT numbers the next two weeks. Both get a Wednesday unopposed, AEW gets a Thursday, and NXT gets a Tuesday, which is where I think NXT will end up soon enough</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1298116377962860544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So if NXT moves to Tuesdays, USA would have essentially replaced Smackdown Live for roughly $.05 on the dollar.

Worried about AEW though, who are they gonna blame it on if they get a bad rating now???

slik 09-02-2020 06:13 PM

Casey was by far the best at covering/breaking news of women's wrestling and he broke a lot of NXT signings.

RIP.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's with a heavy heart we inform you that our beloved friend and <a href="https://twitter.com/SCsirens?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SCsirens</a> owner Casey Michael (<a href="https://twitter.com/ifyouseekcasey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ifyouseekcasey</a>) has passed away at age 26. <br><br>His contributions to women’s wrestling and the friendships made will live on in his memory forever. <br><br>We love you, Casey.</p>&mdash; squared circle sirens (@SCsirens) <a href="https://twitter.com/SCsirens/status/1301278732880142336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 09-02-2020 06:22 PM

Yeah nobody else really came close to him in regards to covering women's wrestling in general.

He was also the biggest insider in regards to NXT news.

Like he was the person who had been hinting for years that Velveteen Dream had some really serious issues going on that NXT officials were refusing to handle. Also was the person who broke the news of pay issues going on at NXT at the time that led to a good chunk of NXT talent wanting out of their deals.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2020 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370687)

Blocking out half the inane voices on here has indeed made the forum more interesting by default. You'd be surprised how few people actually say anything of value. Everyone here thinks they're such awesome contributors, but you don't miss a Dale at all if you put him on block.

I get that people are biased and hungry for any alternative, but the AEW apologetics are just fucking stupid. They do the exact same shit as WWE and get a pass, which, again, I get, but it is fun to point out.

Wrestling is fucking stagnant as hell on all fronts. The silver-lining I am perhaps willing myself to believe is that if/when good wrestling hits, it is going to blow everything else out of the water. The money is there in TV, it just needs someone to see how barren the landscape is.

Brock Lesnar and Ronda Rousey being free agents in April 2021 is something to watch. If they both end up re-signing with the WWE...well, that is what it is. But I've still got this hankering that something big might be on the horizon.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 06:46 PM

There's soooo many alternatives to WWE and AEW.

I went the extreme route and just watch old stuff. Much happier than hate watching current stuff.

Emperor Smeat 09-02-2020 06:51 PM

Any specific promotion for classic wrestling or just whatever you feel in the mood for watching that day?

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 07:23 PM

I have my massive WWF house show collection which I watch quite a bit. I've got stuff that I added two years ago that I still haven't found the time to watch.

80's Memphis Wrestling is so much fun and a regular go to. Continental Wrestling is also a ton of fun.

82-85 Mid South Wrestling is also great.

AWA is boring as shit. Their weekly t.v even prior to the ESPN deal was just so bleh.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 07:26 PM

There's so much footage on YouTube that people have no idea about. It just requires some exploring.

If you're looking for stuff outside the WWF I would start with Memphis

I LOVE Memphis.

Emperor Smeat 09-02-2020 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Von Gertner (Post 5370783)
I have my massive WWF house show collection which I watch quite a bit. I've got stuff that I added two years ago that I still haven't found the time to watch.

80's Memphis Wrestling is so much fun and a regular go to. Continental Wrestling is also a ton of fun.

82-85 Mid South Wrestling is also great.

AWA is boring as shit. Their weekly t.v even prior to the ESPN deal was just so bleh.

Nice.

While not as far back in wrestling time, I've been thinking for a long while to start watching WCW Nitro from its start to end. Since I was mainly a WWF guy at the time, never had any real interest until very recently in watching the pre-nWo era of Nitro and most of Nitro's late era stuff I missed out on back then.

Just haven't figured out yet where in my weekly watching schedule to pencil in the time for Nitro or if I want to actually drop RAW or Smackdown for it.

Fignuts 09-02-2020 07:50 PM

I’ve been watching Mid Atlantic episodes on the WWE network lately.

Fignuts 09-02-2020 07:51 PM

Also some of the mid south stuff. I love Ernie Ladd on commentary.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5370789)
I’ve been watching Mid Atlantic episodes on the WWE network lately.

I've been wanting to go through the 83 Mid Atlantic stuff. I need to go torrent hunting. Haven't in a while.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5370790)
Also some of the mid south stuff. I love Ernie Ladd on commentary.

I love doing Ernie Ladd impressions. Ernie is great.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5370786)
Nice.

While not as far back in wrestling time, I've been thinking for a long while to start watching WCW Nitro from its start to end. Since I was mainly a WWF guy at the time, never had any real interest until very recently in watching the pre-nWo era of Nitro and most of Nitro's late era stuff I missed out on back then.

Just haven't figured out yet where in my weekly watching schedule to pencil in the time for Nitro or if I want to actually drop RAW or Smackdown for it.

A word of warning- 95 Nitro is fucking AWFUL. 96 Nitro pre NWO is entertaining just for the Flair vs Savage feud and anything Lex Luger (I'm not kidding, he's the highlight of most shows). The Hogan v Dungeon of Doom/Arn/Flair shit really drags the shows down.


I also do long stretch projects like watch all the 97 Raws in order or the 98 WCW Worldwide episodes in order. Depends on the mood.

Evil Vito 09-02-2020 08:46 PM

The Rock and his family have tested positive for COVID-19

screech 09-02-2020 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Von Gertner (Post 5370784)
There's so much footage on YouTube that people have no idea about. It just requires some exploring.

If you're looking for stuff outside the WWF I would start with Memphis

I LOVE Memphis.

I came across some Memphis stuff on YouTube recently. No idea who the people were but I enjoyed it.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2020 09:33 PM

It's so much fun. It's the one promotion where I can just watch a random show and enjoy it immensely without knowing what's going on. Wild and crazy show. Stuff like this for example. So much fun. Lance Russell was so great.




One of my favourite characters in wrestling : Ronnie P Gossett


Fignuts 09-03-2020 12:52 AM

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Loved this. I watched that show many years ago over the course of a week. Couple hours a sitting. It was a great show, but holy fuck you could not pay me to watch it in one sitting.

Emperor Smeat 09-03-2020 01:40 AM

Apparently AJ Styles was among those in WWE who tested positive for the coronavirus during last month's outbreak at the Performance Center.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrestlingNews.co
During his Twitch stream this evening, AJ Styles announced that he was one of the WWE Superstars who tested positive for COVID-19 last month.

Styles announced this shortly after The Rock announced he and his family tested positive for the virus.

Styles said, “I also tested positive a couple of weeks ago, probably almost a month ago. I feel for people who have to deal with this but I gotta say, I didn’t have that many problems with it. Hopefully The Rock and his family, hopefully everybody is safe and everybody is taken care of and nobody has too bad of symptoms and stuff like that. It sucks, it’s not good for anybody.”


Emperor Smeat 09-03-2020 08:42 PM

Seems WWE might be planning for NXT to have live fans return by mid-December based on recent ticket sales listings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Post Wrestling
An NXT show at Center Stage in Atlanta, Georgia that was originally set for April has been moved to Thursday, December 17th. Tickets for the event at Center Stage are currently on-sale. POST Wrestling reached out to Center Stage for a comment about tickets being on-sale for the show.


Droford 09-03-2020 11:32 PM

Vince should just give up planning WM for outdoors in Los Angeles

I can see them having fans by WM but no way they'll have it at SoFi Stadium.

Big Vic 09-04-2020 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370764)
So if NXT moves to Tuesdays, USA would have essentially replaced Smackdown Live for roughly $.05 on the dollar.

Worried about AEW though, who are they gonna blame it on if they get a bad rating now???

Wrestling burnout

screech 09-04-2020 09:37 AM

It's better for everyone if they're on separate nights. With DVR (and NXT originally being an exclusive to WWE Network), "ratings wars" are kinda obsolete. Plus if rasslin fans want to watch, they will - it just may not be while the show airs.

Someone on Twitter suggested NXT move to Thursdays because of Impact on Tuesdays. Not gonna lie, I completely forgot which night Impact aired.

slik 09-04-2020 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5370764)
So if NXT moves to Tuesdays, USA would have essentially replaced Smackdown Live for roughly $.05 on the dollar.

Worried about AEW though, who are they gonna blame it on if they get a bad rating now???

When they actually have a bad rating I guess we'll find out

Mr. Nerfect 09-04-2020 04:00 PM

WWE are not going to want Dynamite to go unopposed if it’s a night they could run. AEW doing “fine” outside it’s is usual slot is not necessarily a great thing. Networks thinking wrestling fans will follow this (and them possibly being right) is carte blanche for them to do what they want.

I can see TNT moving Dynamite to a Thursday and then WWE counterprogramming that too.

Droford 09-04-2020 04:33 PM

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I feel bad for anyone who buys this towel

Volare 09-04-2020 05:10 PM

Wow wait wtf shit huh??

Evil Vito 09-04-2020 05:26 PM

well, time to go bleach my eyes

Emperor Smeat 09-04-2020 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5371119)
I can see TNT moving Dynamite to a Thursday and then WWE counterprogramming that too.

If AEW ever got moved to Thursdays on TNT then it would either get preempted a lot more often due to basketball or would lose their prime time spot and be on a worse time for wrestling in order to not be affected.

Outside of Saturday, no other date would make sense to move AEW since they'd either be looking at seasonal preemption due to NBA (Tues & Thurs), direct competition from WWE's main shows (Mon & Fri plus some Sun), or direct competition from NFL (Mon, Thurs, Sun). Wednesday is still the ideal day between the two since its the stronger night for ratings.

Gerard 09-04-2020 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5371125)
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I feel bad for anyone who buys this towel

:|

Wonder how much Viagra it takes to offset the Boner killing visuals in this Towel.

Lock Jaw 09-04-2020 07:04 PM

Vickie Guerrero is in AEW now?

Who is the other braud?

Bad News Gertner 09-04-2020 07:10 PM

Nyla Rose?

Emperor Smeat 09-04-2020 07:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Top 5 WCW Superstars of all time are:<br>1.<br>2.<br>3.<br>4.<br>5.</p>&mdash; WWE on FOX (@WWEonFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1301641119692849152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sting, Hogan, and Flair would be in my list but would need more time to really decide on the other two. Currently leaning towards DDP and Goldberg as my choices for the other spots.

Emperor Smeat 09-04-2020 08:05 PM

Seems WWE went nuclear on their talent being allowed to have Twitch channels and other third party accounts on the side. A bunch of WWE talent owned Twitch channels got taken down today.

Wouldn't be surprised if this was all AJ Styles fault since he mentions a lot of stuff during his Twitch streams that WWE would probably wished would be kept private instead like outing the beef he had with Heyman and him testing positive for the coronavirus.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrestlingInc
Vince McMahon issued an edict this past week that talent can no longer "engage with outside third parties," which would presumably include platforms like Cameo and Twitch.

WWE held a call with talent last Sunday regarding the reinvention of the product. During the call, it was said that WWE owns the real names of talent, not just their character names.

McMahon followed up by sending a letter on Thursday. McMahon wrote that it was imperative that they promote and protect the brand in every conceivable way, and that talent have 30 days to stop engaging with third parties.

"Some of you are engaged with outside third parties using your name and likeness in ways that are detrimental to our company," McMahon wrote. "It is imperative that these activities be terminated within the next 30 days (by Friday October 2). Continued violations will result in fines, suspension, or termination at WWE's discretion."

McMahon wrote that these actions are necessary as part of WWE's rebuilding process as they "enter the next phase of growth at WWE."

It will be interesting to see if this is legal in any way. WWE wrestlers are classified as independent contractors, which has been heavily criticized in the past by shows like HBO's Last Week Tonight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fightful
In regards to the WrestlingINC story ran about WWE asking their talent to cease third party agreements, Fightful can confirm that's true.

Many main roster members hadn't even heard of the news and had only glanced over a letter, while others were livid about the request. One top name wasn't upset, saying that Cameo definitely cuts into the virtual meet and greet market. Another longtime star said that WWE is setting themselves up for a rough situation, as this is a foggy area with their classification as independent contractors.

Originally, word was that WWE were upset about sensitive information leaking during streams.


Volare 09-04-2020 08:56 PM

Wtf...AJ had an awesome stream!

Gerard 09-04-2020 09:10 PM

Vince needs to eat a dick, theyre supposodly "independent contractors" so what they do in their own time has fuck all to do with him.

Unless he wants to call them employees, if so I hope he has a few hundred million in cash sitting around on standby.

Mad old cunt.

Emperor Smeat 09-04-2020 09:24 PM

Seems the part of WWE going as far as trying to claim ownership of their talent's real names for outside stuff while under contract wasn't correct based on another update from Fightful but everything else in WrestlingInc's original report was true.

Also some talent within WWE were okay with the company's recent power move based on those Fightful talked to.

Evil Vito 09-04-2020 09:25 PM

Vince thinks he’s one step away from legitimately owning them

Emperor Smeat 09-04-2020 09:52 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just a little reference on how lucrative Twitch is for some of them: Paige had about 15K concurrent subscribers. For sake of argument let's presume they're all Tier 1. That means she is pulling minimum $45,000 a month if she had a 3/5 split. Imagine that just disappearing.</p>&mdash; Chris Denker (DenkOps) (@thechrisdenker) <a href="https://twitter.com/thechrisdenker/status/1302023756282499075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Using $45k as a basis, Vince's new edict would cost Paige around $540k for a year's worth of extra pay on the side just from Twitch.

Gerard 09-04-2020 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5371199)
Vince thinks he’s one step away from legitimately owning them

The post above claims they own the talents real names and not just their performer names...just wtf.

slik 09-04-2020 10:25 PM

The twitch/tiktok/cameo thing is so shitty

I'm sure it is all about $$$, not the content

Vince sees talent getting $ that he doesn't have a cut of, freaks out and fucks a lot of them over. I wonder if this ends Asuka's YT channel too.

slik 09-04-2020 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5371204)
The post above claims they own the talents real names and not just their performer names...just wtf.

Probably so if anyone ever has a non-WWE related breakout moment like Dave Batista, using their real name, Vince will make $$$ off of them forever.

It's so fucking greedy

slik 09-04-2020 10:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Like I said weeks ago: Vince McMahon has a decades-long history of controlling/exploiting wrestlers and office staff financially. Most famously, he'd aggressively push them to buy houses, sometimes just to make sure they had massive debt debt, and sometimes using WWE as a lender!</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1302002288588980227?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

screech 09-04-2020 10:41 PM

I'd be furious if my job classified me as an independent contractor while not allowing me to work elsewhere (rasslin or otherwise) to make money, and without giving me health insurance.

What a bunch of shit.


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