Apparently CM Punk wrote a story for some Thor Annual.... and wants to get in and write more stuff, saying that he really wants to write The Punisher and has an "awesome story idea" for it.

So, apparently in the Fantastic Four reboot, Doctor Doom's new origin is that he's an anti-social computer programmer who only uses the name "Doom" as a screenname.

http://collider.com/doctor-doom-new-...ic-four-movie/

They are really going out of their way to make this as retarded as possible, aren't they?

Maybe their plan is to make a superhero movie so bad in an attempt to kill the genre and sabotage their competitors who have the rights to so many more superheros than them.

that seems a bit "out there"

This FF movie is sounding so bad I think it can only come out awesome.

Or maybe you can all wait until it comes out before saying how awful it sounds.

Don't be ridiculous.

We can say it sounds awful, that's not a full review or anything. I'm open minded. Just really strange shit coming out of this production.

Damn.

I've been pretty optimistic this would turn out to be good despite what people have been thinking but maybe it really will turn out a disaster.

I won't know until I see the first trailer.

This is such a beautiful trainwreck I can't wait to see it!

I kinda almost think that Fox is trying to pull off something like the plot from The Producers here-- make a movie on the cheap that will make its money back as long as maybe six people see it, but then make it so unbelievably awful that it tanks the franchise, then sell the remains back to Marvel knowing that Marvel won't be able to make money off of it themselves.

Springtime for Victor
And Latveriaaaaaaaa

It wouldn't make much sense saying "It sounds awful" after seeing it, now would it?

Now's the time.

It sounds awful.

That would be a great plan if Marvel didn't have a trump card.

Their movies make bank.

There hasn't been one that's been ultra shitty yet. And it doesn't look like there will be one. So they're gonna sit on that and be fine forever.

Spider-Verse goes through many versions of Spidey. Including...

I can't wait for the FF sequel, where Galactus is just a kinda tall guy with an eating disorder.

And the third one where Mole-Man is played by Fred Savage in his Goldmember makeup.

Marvel Studios released an official timeline of Phase 3 that confirms Civil War is the first 'episode' Phase 3, meaning Ant-Man is the finale of Phase 2 rather than Age of Ultron.

Woah...that's ambitious.

Marvel already gave themselves an out with the death of wolverine.... He showed up again after the first weapon x comic.. with no memory of course

What are you talking about?

What Weapon X comic?

Wait, you mean that "Sharp" guy?

I think he was just seeing shit. Like that reflection in the mirror.

He didn't look like Wolverine at the beginning of the comic.

He had a mask on the entire comic...

Axis is alright so far.

But just alright. Marvel's crossovers have been pretty weak the last decade. World War Hulk and House of M were the only ones I really enjoyed. Feel like the ongoing titles are much better than all these big event books.

Not at the very beginning.

And AXIS was good, until they came up with that inversion shit. It was alright when everyone was being an asshole, but now that the good guys are bad and bad guys are good it's just silly.

Yeah I don't care for that either.

I like Axis but the latest issue was eh. I do like Superior Iron Man though.

People just aren't all that interested in the Fantastic 4 IMO

Besides that the people behind this reboot seem to be actively working to make it so bad it's good.

People (i.e. a mass audience) weren't all that interested in Iron Man/Thor/Captain America until they were handled really, really well. Unfortunately, it seems FF aren't being handled really, really well.

How are the FF faring in comics? It just seems in general (not just in movies) that with the success of the X-Men, Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy, Marvel's First Family are kinda forgotten.

They are actually getting canceled. So not so good.

I liked Future Foundation.

The new Ultimate FF is pretty terrible.

Think it got cancelled pretty quickly anyway. Yet another failed attempt to get the Ultimate universe going again. :(

The Ultimates and Spider-man are still pretty great from what I hear. Dunno about X-men.

I thought All New Ultimates was getting canned as well?

Don't think I've read a single issue from the Ultimate line ever

Wait, that isn't true... I think I randomly read some Ultimates comic once.... vaguely remember Hawkeye being tied up or something, and pulling his fingernails off to use as projectile weapons.

Yeah that was from Ultimates 2, so you've definitely read one.

Yeah that part was really dumb, but pretty much everything outside of Ultimates 3 is good.

All New Ultimates are some C-level superheroes, not a fan of this one.

And The Ultimate Spiderman got pretty weird this last volume.

That's not even mentioning

Apparently in the latest issue of The Punisher, they kill off the Fantastic Four. Or rather the cast playing the Fantastic Four in the upcoming movie.

That doesn't seem like a good sign.

Yeah, here it is:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=111604

It went over my head when I read the Punisher, though.

Woooooow. Marvel really does not like what Fox did with this movie.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/12/0...doctor-strange

Benedict Cumberbatch is Dr. Strange...

Wasn't that confirmed already?

apparently not.

Oh.

Well Krysten Ritter is Jessica Jones.

I'm looking forward to a proper telling of Deadpool as well, with Mr. Ryan Reynolds. I have faith.

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Al Pacino expressed interest in the MCU, and he has met with Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige himself.

So... taking on a known character or going the Coulson/Senator Stern original route? On the former, who do you think Scarface could be?

He could be J'son of Spartax, but they ain't going with that guy as Peter's father, so I doubt he'll show up at all.

OK people. I signed up for Marvel Unlimited, so what the fuck should I read?

Looking at you, Fignuts, but anyone else can feel free to chime in.

Captain America 2004-2011 is really good. Starts with Winter Soldier.

Ultimates 1 and 2. I'd say avoid Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum, but as bad as the story is, it's a game changer and kind of required reading if you're gonna pick anything up after it. And Ultimate Avengers, and New Ultimates are definitely worth picking up.

Dunno, there's honestly so god damn much that it's hard to reccomend something.

They do have all the Marvel Zombies books, which looking at how many there are now, it looks like they reeeeeaaaaallly ran that into the ground. Haven't read the later ones, but the first few were really good.

Oh and if you do read the zombie stuff, make sure you start with Ultimate Fantastic Four #21, because that's where it all started.

Basically if Sony missteps one more Spidey movie (be it Sinister Six or Amazing 3), Peter Parker will rub elbows with Stark and Cap as early as Phase 4 recast and everything. And we're already assured they're not interested in a third origin movie, nor will they focus so much on romance as every Spidey film has so far.

Sony's a little salty that they don't want Andrew, though.

Thanks. I've read the Ultimates stuff. The first one is probably a top 5 comic arc for me. I love the gritty nature of it. Flawed heroes and all of that.

I read the first few New Ultimates books recently too. I was hoping for something different, but it's pretty good none the less.

You said Original Sin was shit right? I figured I'd get into it because I can, but I'm not overly engrossed.

It wasn't shit. It just doesn't quite live up to the hype that the major crossovers have these days. It's still worth a read, I'd say. Art work is fantastic.

The ones I really hated were Seige, Fear Itself, and X-Men: Battle of the Atom. Those ones are garbage, imo.

Pissed that they still haven't revealed who killed the Living Tribunal. Thought that was going to be directly tied to the Watcher's assassination in Original Sin, but I guess not.

Check out Annihilation if you like space stuff and haven't read it

Lock Jaw is correct. All the space stuff from Annihilation onwards is pretty great. Particularly Guardians of the Galaxy, which if you liked the movie, you'll like the book.

Pre-Annihilation space stuff is pretty shit, but Infinity Gauntlet still holds up as one of, if not the best major crossover ever.

That's right, fuck your Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Battle of the Atom was shit indeed. Too much fuckin' time-travel.

I liked Siege, though. Basically liked the whole Osbourn's reign.

Have a big write up in the now dead comics group about why I hated siege. Did they ever explain anywhere why the whole world outside of the superheroes was totally cool with Norman Osborn being in charge of everything, despite being a known psychotic murderer?

Or did Marvel do what they always do, and just retcon it so no one knew he was evil except the good guys.

So you hated the whole Dark Reign?

People just went crazy for the guy who shot the alien queen responsible for the whole invasion of Earth and whatnot. And he did it on live TV.

Shitty explanation, but oh well. It's not like it's the stupidest thing they ever did.

Nah, I didn't dislike Dark Reign, it just seemed like a HUGE plothole.

Would be like Charles Manson killing Osama Bin Laden and subsequently becoming head of the CIA for it.

Yeah, I can see why they wouldn't want him. He's like half of a good Spiderman. He's got the asshole part down good like the 90s cartoon but that doesn't work well when he has to be Peter Parker too because he comes of as a prick as Peter too.

Tobey was the better Peter. Garfield is the better Spiderman.

I'd go for Chevok from the new Star Trek movies as Spiderman.

Guess what's gonna happen with both those movies. Go on...guess.

Sony wanted to do a fucking Aunt May origin story, so it's better they take the rights away from them.

Pardon my ignorance but what constitutes a "misstep" and who makes that call? If Marvel think the film is poor? If it reviews badly? Bad Box Office?

Alright, just downloaded Every Marvel Now Title from the beginning of 2012 to last week. So any ideas where I should start?

2012?

The main Sony office was not satisfied with Sony Pictures' Spiderman.

So I guess it's still the case.

I sorta was only reading "Events" But I found a huge torrent with that big of a update, now I just don't know where to begin.

Yeah it seems the big-big wigs of Sony are willing to undercut Sony Pictures and strike a deal with Marvel Studios - that would in turn undercut Sony's deal with Marvel proper.

It's confusing and stupid.

But the jist is Sony would rather Marvel Studios make blockbuster Spidey movies and get some money out of it, then have Sony Pictures limp along until they literally can't afford the sinking ship (and then Marvel gets it back anyway). Spidey heading to the MCU this way makes sure Sony gets money for his film appearances. This wouldn't even be on the table if Sony was confident their studio could knock it out of the park.

There's rumor that Marvel Studios is so sure of this outcome Spidey had a slot in a draft of Civil War, but Sony's waiting it out on the off-chance Amazing 3 is spectacular or whatever.

Amazing 1 was so-so and I did like Amazing 2, but I think Spidey's going home by Phase 4.

Not making Guardians of the Galaxy type money. That's the bar. You don't get that, or at least 1.5x your budget back, you misstepped.

Didn't help that Amazing 2 was shite.

The ending of Amazing 2 was weird and awkward. Smashed together in 10 minutes what could have been the plot of Amazing 3. Should of just ended at Gwen's funeral.

X-Men to follow? :D

Marvel and Fox should try to make a co-production deal.

First Class and Days have the bittersweet distinction of being really good movies. The Apocalypse, Deadpool, and Gambit buzz alone guarantees Fox a very high bargaining platform. Marvel would have to make a good case. It helps that Hugh Jackman is very open about playing in the MCU.

Is there any chance at all that Pacino ends up being Dr. Strange?

Bendict Cumberbatch is Dr. Strange.

Didn't realize that was official.


Never mind.

He's also a bit too old to the the Sorcerer Supreme.

Back in the 616, Spider-Woman is getting a new costume. Something 'streetwise' and not unlike Batgirl's new duds:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...9585158184.jpg

The suit will debut next year.

eh, I like the old one.

Reminds me of The Tarantula from DC Comics....

She takes love.

I love it, especially that Javier Rodriguez will be illustrating instead of Greg Land. Hopefully the artist change is permanent.

Kluh is stupid as fuck.

"Hey, we heard you like Hulk, so we put a Hulk in your Hulk..."

For real.

Read Age of Ultron.

Was thoroughly unimpressed.

Well its clear that the film isnt going to go with the whole time travel thing. Its really just the name being borrowed from what it looks like.

AoU had its highs and lows...but the ending was pretty huge in terms of opening up doors for new characters/iterations and crossovers.

I did mark out for Angela, but yeah, World War Hulk and House of M have been the only big crossovers I've really liked in the last 10 years.

Still been a lot of great stuff in Marvel's monthly titles though.

Try Earth X and Universe X. Those are supposed to be pretty good.