AEW is as big as it’s going to get. The WWE have succeeded in capping them/they’ve succeeded in capping themselves.

Cool. :y:

I like MJF's promos, Gedo's booking and the idea of Becky Lynch eventually doing porn.

is there a thread for Talk ‘N Shop A Mania because if i missed it, there should be. simply amazing, it's like Trailer Park Boys meets... well
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I hope it's MJF doing these himself, cause his FB page (and twitter) is littered in GOLD.

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MJF's promo last week was fucking FIRE.


Dude is great.

Would have LOVED to hear the loud ass BOOS if that would have been a show in front of a crowd.

I don't know where you're getting this from because it didn't happen.

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Just because you said it, I went and found it on YouTube.... was PrettyGood.... MJF always reminded me of a "less good" The Miz at his peak...

MJF is better than the Miz.

Not yet, but seeing as how is near the beginning of his career and almost as good as peak Miz, I think he'll get there.

But I probably won't know because I don't watch anyways.... he may actually have already done it for all I know. *shrug*

The crowd will end up cheering MJF. Their booing isn't authentic. Wrestling is dead.

:roll: Well, actually...

Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up, dude. You know what he meant. Anyone can do a Google search on this. Stop sucking Shad Khan's dick.

MJF is great, but he's in a shit promotion. I look forward to him jumping ship to somewhere in a few years time. The Miz is pretty awful. His "comfort" on the mic doesn't matter to me, because he sucks in the ring and nothing he says makes me excited to see anything he's going to do. The team with Morrison at least puts him with someone I do want to see in the ring.

Nah, MJF is better. And I'm a big Miz fan.

Miz is half-decent. That's it. MJF is pretty exceptional.

When was peak Miz period, Mania 27?

The "shoot" promo against Bryan on Talking Smack in 2016 is the only other notable period I can think of for him in terms of peak worthiness.

And the Miz knows it

I was going to watch it but the Orioles game distracted me

No, I don't actually, as I stopped reading as soon as I realized his facts were wrong. An argument or point is (or should be) based on facts or factual circumstances. His argument or point was irrelevant and incorrect due to him basing it on or relying on untrue factual information. BTW, if you're argument for "proof" is you can Google the info, you're a pathetic hack and a fucking idiot, and I wouldn't trust you to mow my lawn or even get my order right at a fast food joint, let alone provide me with accurate information. This is the problem with modern society. People believe that they "know" more than they do, or at best rely on untrue or incomplete facts, in making their arguments or conclusions.

That's a weird way of wording it. Speaking about his talent, yeah, The Miz is pretty shit (although y'all were on his balls in 2016), but "worthiness?" The guy is a bigger star than anyone in AEW right now.

That's funny, I stopped reading this post after the first sentence when it became obvious it was semantic bullshit. "Well actually, if a trademark isn't used on the air then..." fucking stupid and irrelevant to any conversation anyone was trying to have. You completely circumnavigated that because you know what you're trying to do is a crock a shit.

AEW were going to call the show Tuesday Night Dynamite, because Tony Khan is a mark that saw that SmackDown was moving nights and he wanted to hop on. Then they called it "Dynamite" because it wasn't on Tuesdays and it was quite possible the show would be bounced around to different nights. That's the fucking point. You're trying to murk that up in jargon, because you're dishonest and can't get enough of that tasty Shad shaft.

Will you still put AEW's balls in your mouth when the rest of the bandwagon has jumped off and are onto something else? Or will your frivolous mind wander to the next fad like everyone else? :lol:

What other notable peak periods did Miz have besides Mania 27 in 2011 and Talking Smack in 2016?

Him and Truth wrecking things in WWE and facing off against Rock & Cena in a big tag match happened later in 2011 but I'd consider it as being part of Mania 27 peak period. Wasn't till around after that tag match that he started to lose a lot of steam and direction.

Yeah, I'd say 2016 his run as IC champ with Maryse/Bo/Axel by his side was his peak.

I was also actually quite enjoying his matches too.

The Miz should have never been in that WrestleMania 27 position. I think we should all be able to admit that now.

He's fine as Morrison's partner, but it would also be fine if he announced his retirement and that he was cashing in on an insurance policy that would allow him to act/manage full-time.

I remember watching The Miz vs. Shinsuke Nakamura w/ Sami Zayn and thinking "They've got Shinsuke Nakamura in the ring and they decide to put him with The Miz over Sami Zayn?"

Have The Miz become a manager and go after Cesaro's contract. He finally has the guy with the strength and the skill to get the WWE Championship the company would never let him get close to again. Zayn goes against Cesaro because he feels betrayed. Fucking easy. Get that shit sorted.

According to PWI, recent rumors of Lucha Libre AAA considering the idea of purchasing CMLL are true based on some of the recent chatter from Mexico.

If that were to actually happened, would be very interesting in seeing what happens with the partnerships both companies currently have since on AAA's side they have Impact, MLW, and AEW while CMLL has NJPW and ROH. Then you have side partnerships like NJPW with RevPro and ROH with NWA to also take into account.

i don’t think those partnerships exist in the event of a sale/liquidation on the seller end but i could be wrong

You're not wrong.

Can't even announce their name in a vignette on TV, just have it announced via their website in a article...

So lazy...



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Justus would have been a better name.

Really hope this new faction storyline doesn't end up leading to the Authority returning on tv since Steph and Triple H's poor-man's version of the Corporation got stale pretty quickly.

Most of AEW’s development happens on YouTube and the internet. At least an “outsider” group makes sense in this light.

Watching Summerslam 92 on FS1. Savage/Warrior on now. Has to be the most tassel filled championship match in the history of wrestling.

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I know people say Hogan at Wrestlemania is Warrior’s best match but I like his two matches with Savage a lot more. Feel like Warrior and Savage must have had a great working relationship because Warrior sold his ass off in these matches. Or maybe he really was just so gassed and had no stamina. Either way, I enjoyed the ride!

Ultimate Warrior is one of the greatest big match wrestlers ever.

Dead serious.

I forgot they had that match in that attire. Such a crazy visual. Wrestling doesn’t get to look like that anymore.


Fox Sports 1 seems to show a lot of WWF PPVs. How do they do numbers-wise? Probably a great sweetener for both sides in that FOX/WWE deal people say FOX must regret because SmackDown only draws two and half times what AEW does.

I hate the guy, but his matches against Rick Rude, Randy Savage, Hulk Hogan and Sgt. Slaughter agree with you. The guy also brought something to it. Wish he wasn’t utterly a fuckwit.

Around the 100k to 200k range as the average. They had a couple old shows that hit the 300k+ range but that was rare.

In terms of being a lead-in for WWE Backstage and helping boost that viewership, it usually did an abysmal job in that role.

FOX is dropping that classic programming block in a couple of weeks for baseball and haven't mentioned if its returning afterwards.

It's so weird. He's not good, but I can't think of a major PPV match post SummerSlam 88 (IC win) of his that wasn't at least very good to great. People can counter with "well look who he was in the ring with". Rick Rude and Jake Roberts stunk up the joint night after night for a year.

My post really got removed lame fuckers.

That doesn’t sound bad at all. Almost as much as AEW gets. Not a bad deal to have that stuff in your back catalogue to bust out for a couple of hundred thousand viewers when there is nothing live on.

Yeah, lots of wrestlers who have individually good reputations have flopped when put in main event positions against each other. Triple H comes to mind as a guy who has lots of them. Orton and Cena never had good chemistry. Bret Hart and even Shawn Michaels have failed to deliver some climatic stuff.

Warrior probably benefits by having a short reign on top. By the time you get to Halloween Havoc, it’s all gone. But there is something to that run.

The Street Profits should really be able to afford better gear by now.

Not really since a good chunk of FS1's replays were like barely half of what AEW did for their Countdown specials.

That average range is decent for FS1 but once you add in demo stuff, ends up being closer to WWE Backstage tier level in terms of performance.

The content being very cheap for FOX is probably the only reason why they bothered to stick with it for as long as they have.

Too bad The Ultimate Maniacs didn't get more of a run

Yeah, it does about average of what FS1 usually does for cheap (maybe even nothing). That’s a damn good deal when there is nothing live on. Keep in mind this is a satellite to being #1 in the alleged key demo and having 1.9 million viewers on a Friday.

Lol, if AEW was getting 200k for a show that wasn’t Dynamite you would be pissing your pants with excitement calling it huge.

Cool channel that has a bunch of 50's wrestling from Chicago.

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I can't imagine I'll ever get that bored.

Don't worry, it wasn't posted for you.

The Chicago Film Archive channel is mint. I remember going through these videos a couple years ago

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I can’t find a better picture of it, but during the hype package before Savage/Warrior they showed footage of Savage and Warrior teaming up against the Nasty Boys and Warrior was wearing this singlet. So he looked naked except for spray painted pubes.

Yeah, Warrior was transitioning off the gas so he started wearing that. Same reason why Savage wore the gear he did at around that time. Savage started doing it because he was off the gas due to wanting to start a family with Elizabeth

New WWE President is Nick Khan (no relation to Tony), who represented WWE as an agent and got them their current TV Deals


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Not only that..."the first time" suggests he's done it more than once.

Marty Jannetty: Homophobe. Racist. Wants to fuck his daughter. Murderer? Definite nut job.

Also clearly just trying to get attention while on drugs.

He's been my facebook friend for a long time. Interesting guy lol

"GODDAMMIT this AEW shit has got to stop! Do what we did to every other territory. Steal their guy! Steal their top guy!"

"Who? Moxley? Jericho? Omega?"

"No, get Khan! Get that Khan guy."

"...uhhhhh. Okay, will do boss."

Brock was very well received and his title reign didn't feel out of place. He had dominated for a few months and won a great King of the Ring tournament and a feud with RVD. Also most smart fans knew that Rock was taking off and that Lesnar was taking the belt.

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One of those things I have grown to appreciate is how Rock helped cultivate that reaction at SummerSlam. Few guys could play to a live crowd like Rock. He knew he was dropping the belt and he heard those boos, so he played into them and became a guy you wanted to see lose. It really fed the match a lot and make it a lot "cooler" when Brock won.

The WWE really should have kept Brock floating between both shows and really doubled down on the big man. I'm imagining what Brock vs. Austin or Brock vs. Michaels at Mania XIX could have been like. Or even just Brock vs. Angle with Triple H vs. Michaels underneath.

McAfee vs Cole is gonna be a thing lol.

The way they've handled both Lee and Cole since that hyped up Double Champions match has been pretty bad.

Lee's Double title reign didn't even get a chance to get off the ground before he quickly dropped the NA title via a promo. Cole went from being NXT's top guy and being a strong focal point of NXT for the past 1-2 years with Undisputed Era to quickly doing nothing of real note since I seriously doubt this feud with McAfee is going to help him.

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Bayleys supposedly going to use that at WM 37 as her entrance. Its...ok..but not really an entrance theme

Longtime indy wrestler Mitch Ryder has passed away, just days after his 48th birthday

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Have to feel sorry for the guy, lost both legs and according to him got screwed out of money big time.

Ugh, Kamala's story always makes me sad.

Oh yeah and with his passing......Mitch Ryder had one really good story I remember. Mike Quackenbush was known to send out company wide e-mails to the entire roster critiquing each match from the previous night's show. Well Quack went out of his way to call out Mitch Ryder for wearing "bargain basement" gear so Ryder responded by quitting in front of the entire roster.

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Kamala also burned bridges with every promoter known to man. He would just up and leave anytime he had to do a job

Well he couldn't work a fucking lick, so all he had was the "aura of invisibility."

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Apparently Impact Wrestling has an older tv viewership than WWE at least in regards to this year according to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

Meltzer did some numbers crunching to find out the current impact the coronavirus has had on televised wrestling and revealed that Impact has the oldest mean viewership age between them, WWE, and AEW.

In terms of WWE and AEW, NXT is the closest to Impact in terms of age.

Smeat. I have to ask...do you actually find those demo breakdowns interesting?

Sorry, I know this is kind of snarky, but I'm not meaning to be (as I'm a fan of your work on the forum). View it as colorful feedback and realize I still consider you an A-plus poster.

Ratings are just so utterly irrelevant at this point. I'd get them being a legitimate talking point if a substantial amount of people watched these shows. However, they don't, and it really offers virtually zero insight and just gets people arguing about nothing. I mainly blame dirtsheet Dave for this inane demo dialogue. Honestly, what are we supposed to do with the fact that of the 7 people who watch Impact, 6 of them are over 50?

Gonna go to the ICW No Holds Barred Deathmatch Circus tonight lol

I'll side with Dale on this one. Can't seem to care for demos or ratings. But that's just a personal preference.

Yes to a certain degree and mainly in terms of it being a useful way of tracking how wrestling is both doing and heading for the short and long term.

Like almost all of WWE's current woes with ratings can be traced back to their utter failure to turn Cena's young fans into their future new core for TV. The lack of a real "Next Gen" era also didn't help. NXT failing to be that "Next Gen" isn't helping either.

In regards to AEW, I find this stuff a lot more interesting since not only do you get to witness a new wrestling company its early beginnings, the ratings and viewership will help reveal if a next wrestling boom is even possible. The last one only really happened because wrestling managed to get very popular with younger people and an outside company was strong enough to seriously challenge and force WWE to actually change for the better.

I don't really blame Meltzer for the craziness that has become ratings talk online since it just ended up being a microcosm of how social media and the internet has gotten worse or toxic over time for quality discussion. He mentioned before that the only reason he stopped doing detailed ratings stuff after the Attitude Era ended was due to him getting bored over the lack of a notable wrestling war and AEW vs. NXT reigniting that passion he once had for it. He does go a bit overboard with it at times, especially whenever he starts overanalyzing things instead of keeping it simple. All that does is give more ammo for added ridicule and scorn by people who already hate him for various reasons.

Interesting!

That is inaccurate.

TV shows still get deals based on their ratings and still get canceled due to a lack of ratings. RAW dropping 700k viewers from the start of 2020, with no sign of that changing soon, is an interesting story.

NXT and AEW retaining and growing viewership is as well. We're seeing a shrinking of the hard-core base and I'm fascinated to see how low it could go and where it will end up at.

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JR was really cranky that day :lol:

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Piper talks about a tape sent to Russo and Bischoff about turning wcw around, always thought that was just bs, apparently not.

Basically a ton of rambling and a scream mask at one point...

I stopped reading when I got to the the part where you use the ratings to make a blanket statement in regards to the narrative you want to push. Raw is a three-hour show now. But no, it’s got to be that Cena fans weren’t lifers? How simplistic is that?

Ratings still matter insofar as they are made to matter. If the USA Network heads care about them — they matter. But as a measuring tool they’re so archaic. Nielsen themselves states there is a 10% margin of error, since this is all guess work and estimates. And what if a kid watches Raw at his grandparents’ house because they’re the only old fucks with cable they know? They get counted as those “undesirables” that Tony Khan shits on.

What matters is how important you are to a network’s bottom-line. Meltzer has pumped significance into the ratings by presenting them as power levels to a nerdy and obsessive audience. He always has a story of the week then. Raw is falling, SmackDown disappointing, AEW soaring. It’s like if I put out an an environmental newsletter and supplemented my stories with a section about how many birds I saw on my walk re: the health of bird populations.

RAW going three hours just compounded that issue with WWE's failure to build a new younger core TV base.

They were already feeling some of the negative effects well before that but the 3 hour era sped the entire process up.

That’s a whole bunch of nothing. Yeah, three hours has affected them. That’s the point. So has Cena leaving, the Attitude era dying, Triple H being on TV, the Chris Benoit incident, cable cutting, streaming services, the UFC, Vince McMahon’s vision (or lack thereof), a butterfly flapping its wings off the coast of Japan, and about one hundred other things.

Cena's young fans literally were WWE's most recent chance at building for a future in terms of TV.

Cena was one of the best ever in WWE history when it came to live events and merch sales numbers but also one of the weakest ever top stars in terms of his core fanbase not becoming a new foundation for WWE's future. WWE's shitty booking habits they developed during his era did a ton of damage towards that. Everything post start of PG Era just added to that problem instead of being a separate main cause.

Wrestlenomics' Brandon Thurston did a report on this a couple years ago and discovered the main issue was a big gap had developed within Cena's young TV viewer fanbase. Cena had a very strong pool of young TV viewers but then start leaving en mass after just a couple of years and were not returning in sizable numbers down the line, meaning they very likely stopped being wrestling fans all together.

100%

The younger fans they get these days seem to be people who start watching because an older relative, like a parent, does and that number is shrinking.

Neither NXT or AEW really tries to get new fans either, both cater to hardcore fans.

Despite all the big $$$ deals it's one of those situations that will become a bigger problem sooner rather than later if not corrected. I am wondering if WWE's new head honcho will have any ideas on developing a future base rather than trying not to lose more of the existing one, which seems to be the current situation.

WWE had two big opportunities to get fans back they'd lost and they blew both chances. RAW 25 was entirely focused on really terrible "comedy" segments starring old wrestlers and gave people little reason to tune in to see today's wrestlers. I remember this was at the height of Braun's popularity as a monster face too and he barely appeared or did much on the show.

The other big chance was the debut of SD on FOX. They front-loaded it with stars of the past and people from RAW who wouldn't be on the show next week and gave viewers little reason to keep coming back. The best solution would have been to front-load with names people knew and also have a clean slate of all storylines and all titles so anyone could jump in. Instead it was the usual you must also watch RAW and order the WWE Network to follow along. The smartest thing possible would have been to make SD as inclusive viewing as possible, with all storylines contained to those 2 hours on FOX each week.

At least in regards to AEW, they seem to slowly be growing and drawing in younger fans better than before but still too early to make any definitive claims.

Them recently picking up key demo wins over RAW and the slow shift towards Wednesday's as the potential new big night for wrestling could be the start of something major if the trend continues.

NXT might be a lost cause since they just keep getting older instead of younger despite being the type of show that should appeal more to younger wrestling fans compared to RAW and SD.

Jesus Christ, you do not fucking listen. You just go back to the same robotic points, regardless of whether or not they are reasonable. There is mixed truth in this, which all comes together as a false assessment with conviction behind it.

That is not the correct use of the word "literally." The WWE has a chance to make new fans every week. Cena hasn't been a full-time guy since 2015.

The rest of your post is just irrelevant gibberish and internet talking points and is just going to make me repeat that there are a myriad of factors that have affected the WWE -- which, by the way, is super fucking profitable right now. That's the future Vince McMahon was building to, and it was a success, love or hate the guy.

But you can't stay on topic and just have to keep hitting the same bullshit like it's a fact. There's a big difference between saying that Cena's kids left (no shit) and that Cena's kids leaving has been an "utter failure" to create a core audience. The fuck?

A big part of the move to PG and Cena in general was to make the WWE a big friendly Muppet of a promotion to encourage advertisers and sponsors -- which worked extremely well. Vince McMahon sees your "utter failure" and wipes his big, cummy profit dick all over it.

Why are you so dense when it comes to discussing anything related to viewership.

And what part of WWE spending years courting a younger fan base with Cena ended up them failing to convert them into a new tv core base for the future do you not understand. They were leaving en masse while Cena was still there, not just after, because WWE was doing a terrible job keeping them invested for the long term.

Besides trying to shove Reigns into a Cena mold instead of letting him develop into his own thing, that lack of a bridge created by the Cena era contributed just as much to Reigns' struggles in becoming the next mega star for WWE.

WWE being massively profitable these days has a lot more to do with the changes in the TV industry and WWE marketing themselves as a sport than anything they've actually done. WCW had a similar mentality of ignoring all their real problems because they were making record profits only to crash hard when that bubble burst.

I’m not the one who parrots Dave Meltzer on these things. I wouldn’t worry about my density. You do realize that the ratings aren’t literal measurements, right?

Was the plan to convert the kids into a long-term fan-base or was it to profit off them short-term and secure big meaty TV rights and family friendly sponsorship deals from him? Because I’d like to see some evidence that it was definitively one and not the other. Ooh, but that ruins the narrative, doesn’t it?

It’d be great if the kids stuck around. No one would argue against that. But to suggest that it was the linchpin of the WWE’s business model is fucking insane, especially when the ratings were falling under Cena anyway. If the idea was to get kids, then actually getting kids might have been a good idea. But the WWE’s business plan wasn’t what you say it is, nor what Meltzer said it was, because Meltzer is selling a story to people like you.

This is hard to except, because Vince McMahon is a cunt and it makes some people feel very stupid, but the man is a genius at readying his product for the marketplace. Some of his business dealings are shady as fuck, but there’s a reason the WWE is mega-profitable right now, and absolutely none of it has to do with WWE “failing” to hook the Cena kids (who were always going to grow up).

Roman Reigns is irrelevant to the conversation, haha. You are just spiralling out into internet talking points like you always do when you get called out and need to scramble to find a borrowed point.

People cannot separate their view of the WWE’s content from their success as a business. They’re uninspired by Brock Lesnar title reign #7 so they make up a story about how the sky is falling and Vince is an idiot because he didn’t push Zack Ryder and let him go to TNA.

I have never seen photos of the Rock's business partner/ex-wife Dani Garcia before.


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I think that’s a more recent transformation for her.

Just imagining her having her way with me...

BBR

lol the numbers are fucking putrid and further highlight how niche wrestling is, and how irrelevant WWE is. Nothing but negatives.

Easy to see why she's an Ex i suppose. :shifty:

Kinda related to this: If you have two separate brands, they should be as far apart as possible (in kayfabe, anyway).

That they women's tag team champions can float across brands and that Sasha Banks can carry the RAW Women's championship to SD ruins this for me.

You just have to take a look at how bad the product is to know that this was no-ones plan. It’s an old guy who has lost his way producing baffling, confusing and, worse still, mindnumbingly boring content.

It’s retained a niche because wrestling always will and WWE is the “Hoover” of wrestling.

Yeah, I was skimming over SD results and thought about this more:

Why is there a 'RAW/SD/NXT' battle royal to find a challenger for Bayley...

Why does Asuka have to beat Bayley to face Sasha...if she beats Bayley shouldn't she be the SD champ or facing Bayley...

Don't interrupt me. You're not the shit. Please leave.

Quote in bold for emphasis.