Yeah I don't necessarily think they should be suspended. But I feel like after Sammy got a month for comments on a podcast four years ago or whenever, AEW will feel like they have to discipline Excalibur for this.

If this was a few years ago, WWE may ignore this completely lol

People forget all the stupid shit they used to say and do back in their late teens and early twenties.

Remember like 10 years ago when the word "gay" was used as a verb like "that's so gay" and it being somewhat socially acceptable. I would NEVER say that nowadays, but I sure as shit did back in my early 20's.

I think the are Trump supporting wrestling fans who especially want to go after KO for his comments because he's pretty outspoken "woke" guy so him saying something awful 15 years ago is their way of having some sort of "gotcha"

Daniel Bryan said Sal Rinauro looked like a fag in Colt Cabana's Wrestling Road Diaries in 2009. Eventually someone will make a stink about that.

That was about twenty years ago but since they're all calling themselves queer again I say have at it, treat yourself to a "fag" or two.

A rumor around the net regarding why Excalibur's controversial videos suddenly popped up again is due to some vendetta an owner of several low tier sheets websites has against Tony Khan and AEW.

Supposedly the owner got into a big argument and/or got called out for running clickbait tabloid style sheets websites by Khan some time ago and ever since then, he's been constantly trying to dig up any dirt on the company as revenge.

The reason it spread as quickly as it did was due to him and several associated others targeting r/SquaredCircle via spamming antics and using his official sheet websites Twitter accounts and burner accounts to create a wildfire-like online incident for it.

Hahaha, no.

Considering the same person has done these antics before in the past and I'm aware of their bad rep as a sheets source, the rumor does have some weigh to it. Also doesn't help that this person was also boasting and trolling AEW on Twitter over it after it started spreading online.

Is it anyone we'd know?

Supposedly its the owner of Ringside News and other associated sites that's been behind it.

Doesn't excuse what Excalibur and Kevin Owens did in the past but the videos getting exposed again wasn't some sort of random cancel culture moment or something related to the recent wave of accusations that rocked wrestling and instead done out of spite.

Rumor of his involvement originated in /wooo or at least that was the first place I noticed it.

Meanwhile, the results of WWE's recent fiscal report came out and once again showed them to be greedy when it came to cutting talent costs (and trying to resign them back at lower deals) several months ago.

Not only were those savings tiny compared to where they really saved money in delaying work on a new HQ, they once again hit another record high in certain fiscal areas and blamed the loss of a Saudi show for decreases in other notable areas.

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Steen and Excalibur did the thing. It looks equally as bad on Steen, who has no affiliation with AEW at all. It was stupid, they were young, times were different. Lots of attempting to emphasize "intent" behind words as opposed to the power of the words themselves, which is now considered a fool's errand. They should say "Sorry" and move on with their lives and try not to be dicks in the future. It's not a fucking anti-AEW conspiracy though. Fucking hell.

You might as well claim that the whole #SpeakingOut thing recently was a plan to sabotage AEW by trying to cancel Sammy Guevara.

This is why the AEW fandom is not only annoying, but fucking toxic honestly. Blame Excalibur for being a cunt if you need to turn the focus on anyone involved in AEW. He fucking did it.

Maybe i should join these cancel culture fuckers and call up Home Depot and get this guy i know from HS fired cause he called me a dyke at least a couple times a week.

Both have apologized for it in the past which is why that also got brought up around the net when the videos resurfaced again. Owens apologized for it on one of Lillian Garcia's podcast shows and Excalibur on one of Jericho's podcast shows.

The rest of your post is pure gibberish and just another occasion by you to go on a huge rant on AEW. You used to do the same exact thing with Eli Drake when he was your most hated thing on these forums. Only reason you stopped with him was because he suddenly started working for NWA which wasn't on your shit list for wrestling despite nothing about him really changing from his time in Impact.

All these claims you have about AEW fandom being toxic can easily be turned around to you considering how you've been acting around here for months.

It's good they apologized. Both were assholes for doing it.

No, it's not gibberish. What's gibberish is you bringing up Eli Drake (wtf?). You just don't like being criticized for being a sycophant. If Dave Meltzer said that COVID-19 was created in a lab by the OWE guys because AEW didn't want to give them eight trillion dollars, even though they offered them six trillion, because they wanted two trillion to cure puppy homelessness -- you'd gladly give it the time of day.

No, I'd wonder a lot more what conspiracy theories websites or personalities he started to become a fan of if he ever mentioned something like that.

What's with you and always bringing up Meltzer towards me as if that's meant to be some sort of insult or if I'm a Meltzer sheep like you've insulated in the past. There has been a bunch of stuff about Meltzer I haven't liked about him over the years but that doesn't downplay him being a major reporter in wrestling. Same for Mike Johnson with PWInsider and issues I've had with him over the years as well.

I canceled my sub to F4W.

For all the grief I get because of Meltzer bias and other similar loony views, I've never had a sub with F4W.

Get all my sheet news from either the free stuff the Observer posts on their website and Youtube channel and other places that post their paid content. Plus Triple A loaning me his F4W sub for Observer Newsletter stuff after /wooo started to become a bit unreliable with posting some of the stuff I needed for the Frontpage.

Sure its wrong but nobody here ever really complained about it either.

You always take everything Meltzer says at face value. For example, this stuff is absolute horse-shit and you're talking about it like it's got any credence, when anyone can immediately determine it is bullshit. I'm pretty sure you reported the Kenny Omega/Japan stuff too, which was also obviously shit. And just recently Triple H being a piece of shit while leaving off the AEW side.

You're biased, and that's fine. But you're going to get called out on it when it crosses into ridiculousness. It's ridiculous to assume that a clip that buries Excalibur and KEVIN OWENS is out there specifically to fuck over AEW.

I'm subscribed to F4W Online just for Bryan and Vinny's Reto Raw/Nitro/Superstars. So funny.

And Meltzer has to report on hearsay to a degree. That's the nature of wrestling. Journalists also don't have to be unbiased. Don't try and straw-man me with that. The issue is that if he said "Vince McMahon is plotting to launch a nuclear bomb at Dailys just to fuck over AEW" you would eat it up.

I don't hate Meltzer or anything, and it's not like the guy has never broken a story. But his mates are in AEW and can peddle him whatever bullshit they want. They have completely slipped the "AEW was super-nice to New Japan" absolute tosh past people. Vince McMahon was definitely getting involved in how NXT was run. WWE are both simultaneously incompetent for promoting NXT not enough and doing too much. NXT is like WCW because Sam Shaw exists, but AEW is fine with its teleporting.

Meltzer, like The Young Bucks with their t-shirts, has worked out that the wrestling fan base is getting smaller and smaller because this shit sucks. But they're getting nerdier and nerdier, so they will spend more money per head. None of them are concerned with increasing wrestling's reputation, and are perfectly happy to monetize whoever is left. For The Bucks (and the other AEW executives), that means doing PWG-style horse-shit and being self-indulgent until the billionaire pulls the plug. For Meltzer, that means saying stuff that the audience that is left wants to hear to get as many subscriptions as possible. "Yay AEW; nay WWE."

Meltzer has a business to run and the money, sadly, is in pandering to whatever the fuck is left, and that means actively going with this online narrative that anyone that is not Vince McMahon is a good guy. It's completely fooled some people -- yourself and BigCrippyZ included. You'll root for anything that is not Vince McMahon, regardless of how shit it is.

Dumbass, this stuff about the videos didn't even come from Meltzer.

It came from a rumor on /wooo claiming the owner of Ringside News was behind the videos resurfacing again since its been like the third or fourth time within the past year the N-word videos regarding Excalibur and Owens have popped up online.

Here is the exact links I saw that alleged the videos popping up again was due to the owner of Ringside News having some vendetta over AEW and Tony Khan.

https://boards.420chan.org/wooo/thread/6425005#6425108

And the tweets being used to as part of that person's claims.

https://boards.420chan.org/wooo/thread/6425005#6425234


I don't know why I even bother coming to this place anymore since all you've done is take all the fun out of visiting here and talking about wrestling.

Smeat, I believe I speak for everyone here, we value your contributions immensely. Don't feed the troll.

Meltzer can be replaced by whatever internet source you want to credulously cite to confirm your bias, dumbass. It's whoever says the pro-AEW thing or stacks the decks in their favor.

It's ironic the subreddit is called "wooo."

QFT :y:

AEW definitely more fun to watch.

Dave Meltzer is a terrible idiot.

He and James Lipton have a lot in common. Suffocatingly sycophantic around their object of affection and yet offering nothing to anyone but tongue in ass.

I'd respect Dave a lot more if he ever got around to making a point. Still, I trust him as a source more than anyone else in the industry. That's not really saying all that much.

That’s a great way of putting it. Meltzer is getting worse. He’s stooped to flat-out lying for AEW. I don’t think he’s on the take or anything, but he knows where his bread is buttered. That anyone still takes him seriously is bizarre to me.

The other day someone pointed out to me that Kurt Angle had no five star matches. Kenny Omega has broken his scale at least three times.

He actually does push for AEW in a way that suggests to me that he is at least disingenuous in his support if not outright taking the piss at this point.

I think he sees all of the media stuff and his image in particular as some new "kayfabe" or something like that.

He wishes he was a wrestler so badly that he has started becoming one who doesn't wrestle, just talks. So he looks like an AEW guy but sounds like a WWE guy just after the millennium.

Has he ever offered to fight anyone?
I can see that coming a mile off.

I bet he pulls a Uwe Boll before too long.

Not actually fight anyone, but he did recently go after Cornette on Twitter with almost zero provocation. They’ve been going back and forth for a while, with things until recently being pretty good between them — Meltzer would give Cornette credit and vice versa — but then things got icy over AEW. Meltzer started echoing the things the AEW guys say to dismiss Corny (I imagine Steve Buscemi with the skateboard) and Cornette allegedly “chewed him out privately” and only made a little mention of it on his actual show.

But anyway, someone on Twitter said something like “Cornette must be stewing!” because The Young Bucks got 1 million viewers or something. Cornette has long mocked the ratings and kind of scoff-laughs at how these shows do outright, so it’s projecting a lot onto Cornette. But Dave went on this weird tangent about how no one should listen to Cornette and he’s been proven wrong about everything, even using the cliched “out of touch” line. I immediately thought “Haha, shit — Meltzer’s business is hurting for the attention.” But Cornette actually completely ignored him (well, has to date).

Kind of ironic that Dave says Corny is the one that pushes people away. He’s the guy trying to take shots and get the other guy to cut a promo on him for the attention. Not so much a “fight,” but he probably knows what the attention would do for his metrics.

I mean, you can’t look at AEW and think it is that good. I’m sorry, but you can’t. There were two Nickelodeon slimings in back-to-back segments the other week. Like, fair enough if you support them in principle, or find things to like. It’s not WWE, I get that. But it’s really hokey sports entertainment. And he goes out of his way to act like it’s high art and well disciplined storytelling.

He’ll also spin anything they do into an achievement. They are the first promotion ever started by a billionaire. They had Chris Jericho, JR and Jon Moxley signed to contracts before their first show. They had a TNT deal in place on the basis of this, also before their first show. He keeps going on about what they have achieved in a year. It’s what they bought. Nothing they’ve gotten has come off the merits of their show.

And there’s no shame in that — it’s just the reality.

I do wonder if Tony Khan being a confirmed reader of the Observer means that Meltzer is going to work extra hard to make it look like he’s got a clue. Not the best look if a dude whose education is Wrestling Observer University falls flat on his face.

They've drawn pretty impressive PPV numbers.

Meltzer is a great go to for news. Opinions, not so much. He lost me completely on that when he pulled that 7 star bullshit.

I like Bryan Alvarez. Fun to listen to him go on rants, even when I don't agree with him.

Dave Meltzer is the Fred Leuchter of professional wrestling.

Go on, I'll wait while you Google.

I'd agree in terms of what the alleged number for Double or Nothing was versus TV viewers. They converted something like 10% of their TV audience to buyers, which is actually impressive. The speculated numbers for their previous PPVs where in line with what you'd predict for PPV.

They've got a hardcore and mobilized audience. They can milk them a fair way.

I don't dislike Bryan Alvarez as a person or anything, and I used to enjoy listening to him, but he crossed the line into Fred Leuchter territory with me too. Whoever that is.

I was reffered to this Asuka vs Meiko Satamura match on youtube, and it's one of the hardest hitting womens matches I've ever seen.

It's also really weird. Production wise.

Theres a guy playing a japanese style guitar throughout the whole thing and theres a blue light on the ring. The light isn't bad like Sin Cara's. They have spotlights on the wrestlers so you can see everything no problem.

Still, very odd.

Asuka's entrance is painfully long so I'd skip to 3:30 if you wanna watch it.

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I might watch that match, although the production stuff is kind of making me hesitant. Has Asuka done that Brazzers porn yet?

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lol I like Tony's "What" at the end.... I know obviously it is prob the start of a sentence, but I am pretending it is the start and end of it.

FUNB Terry Bollea!

"The NB stands for New Blood, you figure out what the FU stands for".

So great.

No, I want to watch it.

Something more in character, honestly.

Well the latter part is what I'm hoping for.

Let me tell you how my boner moves.

Well the latter part is what I'm hoping for.

The average PornHub video has way more views than there are smarks on the internet. Do your perverted maths correctly.

It’s honestly not as intrusive as I thought it would be when I was told about it. The match is good enough where I got sucked in and didn’t care about the weird production.

Also helps that it wasn’t done to be silly, but was rather, more of a cultural thing.

Yeah, I might check it out. Thanks.

I feel like Sheamus is a lot better than people give him credit for.

I mean his booking and creative doesn't do him any favors, but still...

Sheamus is cool.

I was thinking of spending 15 bucks on Talk N Shop Mania later tonight since its on directv but its only listed as 2 hours. It looks like its going to be ridiculous but I slso think the trailer gave away a lot.

There's also a bunch of women's wrestling specials and a 56 min "MJF: the prodigy" special on afterwords that's like 8 bucks.

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He can do some cool shit for a guy his size, but it never comes together as anything I can care about. I think he'd have benefit if he weren't pushed so hard so early. But maybe not.

If Sheamus was one of those let go... he could have been a truly great bastard heel for AEW. I feel like Sheamus in another good promotion like NJPW or AEW would allow him to be a total killer.

I think Sheamus is fucking amazing. Have thought that since he debuted in ECW. Always great hard hitting matches.

Imagine a year or two of Sheamus mixing it up with Suzuki, Goto and Ishii... yeah he really should go to NJPW.

I actually liked Sheamus’ face championship run. The comedy material was abysmal but I thought he came off likeable while also being a badass in the ring. Good combination. He had some great “brute vs brute” matches with Tensai.

I'd rather donate to the skank my ex bf cheated with.

I remember everyone shitting on the Cesaro vs Sheamus best of seven series but I thought it was awesome. They did a good job of giving every match a differebt story, and because of the people invilved it was hard hitting and believable.

Still pissed they just made them a tag team instead of an actual resolution.

And thats another thing. The Bar is the worst booked tag team of all time. They should have been world beaters but they came of as just another tag team amidst all these smaller guys.

House show I went to years ago, the coolest thing was The Bar's entrance

Lance Storm recently talked about why Tag Team wrestling is pretty much dead. Once wrestling started booking weekly attraction bouts instead of squash matches the draw of the tag team dwindled. Cesaro and Sheamus never stood a chance to "do something" as a tag team. The only team that matters to WWE is The New Day, and they've probably tried to break them up in the writers room a hundred times.

I thought Sheamus and Cesaro had this heavy-hitting Holy Demon Army vibe to them (only not as good, obviously). But they won and lost so many times — it never felt like they were truly together as a team. Weren’t they together for about as long as Edge & Christian?

Sheamus is the somewhat rare type of guy in WWE that actually managed to get better the longer his career went but simply never managed to shake off the damage caused by that idiotic 18 seconds match against Bryan.

Orton is another one but what really drags him down is his supposed lack of motivation and caring most of the time for his feuds and ring work and less about WWE's booking of him.

WWE planning a draft soon

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October would make the most sense since that was when the last Draft happened.

Would also fit with the whole "season premiere week" thing they boasted about when SD moved to FOX last year.

According to PWI, WWE's newest plan to combat AEW and fix NXT's ratings issues is to simply hire more writers for their NXT brand.

They recently hired 2-3 new writers specifically for that brand but don't think they let go or demoted any of the ones that had been working for the brand.

Ever since moving to USA Network, think they had been using somewhere around 4-5 writers with Road Dogg and HBK among those in NXT Creative. Before it used to be just 1 writer with a couple of NXT agents helping out with ideas.

:roll:

Or they just hired new writers because that's something they're basically constantly doing and they cycle people in and out and like the appearances of being a machine that churns out people for the production side of things? NXT hiring new lighting people is not some grand conspiracy to battle AEW -- it could just be them getting new lighting people/providing new training opportunities for Full Sail. Writers are the same deal.

It's possible that with Vince obviously getting closer and closer to moving away, they want to have more writers in because a lot of the NXT crew will be more involved in the main roster stuff, or possibly different ventures altogether. But that doesn't put AEW at the center of the narrative.

Also, lol at "ratings issues." They basically have the same viewership as AEW. Does it have a ratings issue? If they wanted to drastically increase NXT, they'd put big stars there more frequently and take it off the WWE Network so that people don't watch it the next day so readily. At least block it in the United States. NXT are fighting this "battle" with an arm tied behind their back at all times.

But sure, let's pretend that Vince McMahon is stressing out because AEW has a slightly higher demo and is a distant, distant #3 with hours six and seven throughout the wrestling week, and all he could think of was to hire some writers.

Vince McMahon's dealings with Saudi Arabia are just a desperation deal because he wants the expendable cash to be able to buy the Pacific Ocean to stop Chris Jericho from doing his vanity cruise there, people.

The WWE gives a shit about money. That's what all their business dealings are about. The only interest the WWE ever had in AEW was if it were going to pose a risk to their future dealings when it comes to TV rights fees. Then the TV show dropped, AEW chased away about half the live viewers interested in it and they got super-excited about a $45 million per year deal that has them locked in for years and years. Vince is fucking laughing. Raw and SmackDown are so far ahead in terms of viewership, demos, international penetration and basically everything, and AEW so keen to box themselves into what was basically coverage for their production costs, that Vince McMahon basically has carte blanche to do whatever he wants.

NXT was successful in doing what it was put on the USA Network to do. Monetize developmental and prevent another company for gaining weight to be able to fuck with TV rights deal negotiations in a few years time. You don't have to love the WWE to accept that. I fucking hate it, because I want something different and something good. But AEW ain't it. Vince's "Eye for an Eye" shit is staring you right in the face and winking.

That's what PWI reported was the reason when they asked more about the hirings.

WWE wanted to do some shakeups in NXT's Creative to improve both its ratings and creative direction since what they are doing now isn't creating any real lasting benefits for the brand.

I get why WWE made the switch, but I kinda wish NXT was one hour instead of two.

Smeat: Reports rumors while citing sources... doesn't say it's the 100% truth

Noid: :rant: :rant: :'( :'( :'(

And that’s obviously bullshit. You could have discerned that before you posted it.

One hour shows actually leave you wanting more sometimes.

NXT was already on Wednesdays. Getting on USA gives them a chance to make more money and make developmental profitable. Also marginalizes what AEW can achieve, which protects their larger slice of the market. There’s obviously a business strategy behind it. It’s common sense and not as exciting as “WWE fears AEW” though.

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I find it funny since CJ does 10x less things than most of the e-thots do.

they banned impact for a week for what rvd did, twitch is strict on wrestling.

so what hapened at the good bros ppv was it any good?

NXT was always on at 8:00pm. They got an extra hour because USA paid for it.

Why doesn't anybody seem to remember AEW getting a trademark for Tuesday Night Dynamite before they even had a TV deal?

AEW's original plan was for Tuesdays, in the wake of Smackdown moving to Fridays.

AEW spinning the big bad WWE trying to hurt us with NXT is utter bullshit.

If they went by their trademark, and THEN NXT moved to Tuesdays, they could say that. As it is, they scheduled their show at the same time NXT had been running for years, then got pissed NXT got a better TV deal than they did.

AEW's entire foundation is a work to garner sympathy against those meanies trying to hurt and hold them back.

It is the overall gimmick of the company, it is the gimmick of their champion, it is the gimmick of at least 5 other wrestlers, it is the gimmick of their producers, managers, ring announcers, and commentators. It is the gimmick they present in the show, in interviews, tweets, podcasts, and every other aspect of their lives.

They all think they are SOOOOO much better than WWE believed them to be because WWE doesn't understand anything.

Other than Cody, have any of them proved WWE wrong?
Spears got a Mohawk and zero personality.
Brodie Lee mocks Vince McMahon but nothing about him is must see. The Bucks even admitted he was like their 4th choice.
FTR is exactly the same, except now their tag opponents actually do way more flips, so their "no flips just fists" makes more sense.
Ryder is just himself without his woo woo gimmick, which was the only interesting thing about him.
Moxley is exactly the same, everything he does is goofy shit. I see zero difference from Dean Ambrose other than his name and attire. He has more gimmick matches, but that doesn't change his character.

AEW got incredibly lucky that Jericho wanted to be a part of the company. His on screen character has been amazing, but off screen he is every bit as whiney as anybody while promoting the big bad WWE agenda.

The entire company is in business because of the narrative "WWE BAD, AEW GOOD...but also look at all the WWE guys we have, but that doesn't mean we are Impact 2.0, so watch us and stick it to WWE, we are cool and hip and "wink wink" look how much fun we have, you can be in on the "wink wink" too, yay BE ELITE".

I swear wrestling has the dumbest fans....

https://www.change.org/p/wwe-justice-for-alexa-bliss

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Just how all out they went with Fandango's entrance....

Apparently the Hand of AJ Styles from WrestleMania's Boneyard match made an appearance during the show.

Haven't actually watched it yet but supposedly it was a pretty enjoyable comedy style wrestling show based on the reactions around the net.

If they took AEW seriously, they wouldn’t do shit like Eye for an Eye. They went live and to two hours because nuts if some amateur hour promotion is going to get all the TV rights fees. WWE had trialed NXT on USA before. This just sped up the process.

Also, wrestling fans will watch anything, so this was a good way to slice into that audience. Now AEW fans get excited about 800k viewers.

Homeboy will be just fine.

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Yeah, he can talk to Moxley and Spears about how cool it is that their wives are still at that big bad place making the majority of their household incomes :rofl::rofl::rofl: SOOOOOOOO ELITE!

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Macho Man is still the gold standard for best elbow drop in wrestling but Kairi Sane is a very close second with how sweet almost all of her elbow drops looked.

Only knock against Sane is she didn't get to showcase her great elbow drops more often on the main roster because of how much WWE botched handling her.

Man, Kari Sane's elbows are soooooooooooo good. Hard to compare her and Macho Man's because they feel like completely different variations.

Managed to catch the second half off GCW's show today and it was pretty entertaining.

Based on the stuff I saw, it was a lot more slow paced and less hardcore/deathmatch in terms of action compared to last week's set of crazy shows but still was a nice show to sit back and chill while watching.

Was the most interested in watching Kylie Rae's match since I figured it would have been on the second half of the show but that ended up being very early instead. Her current gimmick and style of wrestling is almost the complete opposite of what GCW typically offers.

Prefer how heavy Randy Savage comes off the top rope. Looks devastating.

Yeah, I would certainly agree Savage's were the best, just a thing of beauty.

I would also agree Kairi's is the next best thing. Just her downward trajectory looks so different, it makes it look more devastating once she lands it.

I'll never be able to pick between macho's and Kairi's.

Not sure what CM Punk or HBK are even doing on this list.

I vote Macho because Kairi is a woman and men are better than women. Scientific fact.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I will says this, WWE may not know how to make new fans anymore, but they know how to make a shit-ton of $$$. The amount that WWE is making per fan is insane. At some point the loss of popularity will catch up, but it's clearly not anytime soon. <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingInc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WrestlingInc</a></p>&mdash; Raj Giri (@RajGiri_303) <a href="https://twitter.com/RajGiri_303/status/1290079551972753408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is wrestling all over. They've chased away people with taste and now you only have the most dedicated fan raising the average per head.

I somehow doubt that regarding their positions but...ok?

If Spears is getting paid as much as even the most lowly WWE talent seems to get these days, then it's too much money.

I want to feel bad for Spears. On one hand, the dude clearly has passion for what he does. He's been doing it for about 20 years now. And he looks good and isn't bad at it, per se. But he took a giant stab leaving the WWE to try and prove that he's got top guy potential because he let the NXT bubble get in his head. Now he's kind of been exposed as a dude with a definite ceiling, an overinflated sense of worth and doesn't get to see his smoking hot girlfriend who is around a lot of better paid and more talented guys all the time.

But the dude has also had way too much luck already, so it's probably the universe balancing itself out for him.