Sakura may have fucked up properties, but she is totally a shoto. Dragon punch: check. Fireball: check. Hurricane kick: check. 100% shoto.

Gouken is just a bizarro world shoto. Dragon punch goes sideways, hurricane kick goes up and fireball has 3 directions.

Sagat is Shoto-like.

I'm not talking about super technical details involving hitboxes and frames and shit, just general special movesets.

I really wanna see other character types make it in. If Charlie or Remy make it in, I will strangle someone.

Is there a set definition for "shoto"? I've heard the term around when I visit places like Gamefaqs.
I thought it applied to characters based on the way Ken/Ryu play. They have a projectile performed by down-to-forward-punch. They have a rising upper cut preformed by forward-to-down-to-forward-punch and a horizontal traveling kick performed by down-to-back-kick.
If I was going by that, that would mean Ken, Ryu, Dan, Sakura and Sagat would be classified as "shotos".
Gouken is like an inverted "shoto". The inputs are the same but his upper cut is horizontal and his kick is vertical which is the opposite to how the others do it. That means 5 or 6 is you still count Gouken are "shoto".

The game has:
6 "shotos"
8 charging
3 grapplers
17 miscellaneous

Clearly, we need more grapple characters to even out the selection a bit more. Hugo is pretty likely and so is R.Mika so that should bring the grapple count up to a decent number. I just don't want any more "shots" personally and Charge characters are no fun for me to play as personally. I want grapplers or misc.

Speaking of Hugo, Ono is mentioning Poison a fair bit. He apparantly did the same with Yun & Yang before they were made to obviously be the first two.
Here (Eventhubs).

I was thinking, maybe DLC will be packs of 2.
Yun & Yang
Hugo & Poison
R. Mika & Rolento (Alpha themed DLC)

I should probably stop proof reading my posts so much...and make them shorter.

Her dragon punch is a rush move, not anti-air. Her senpuu has an arc and its usage is not like the Hurricane Kick. Her fireball is also more akin to wake-up checks than zoning like typical shotos.

She is not a shoto.

Fuck that, write essays.

Sigh.

I wouldn't call any of my post "super technical".

And it's stuff like what I posted that makes a shoto a shoto, not merely having a fireball or a hurricane kick. For instance; Batsu of Rival Schools has a dive kick, a wheel kick, a grounded uppercut special, and a fireball. But he is in fact a shoto, though his moveset doesn't seem like it.

If you can fireball trap, you are a god damned shito!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!1!2!!!!oneoneone

Not even fixing the typo.

I can't fireball trap shit with Sakura. Wish I could.

Nigga, help me out here. Like for real.

Part of Yun on show in this teaser image by Ono.
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._japanssf4.jpg

Ono is still hinting at Poison more and more.

I checked his Twitter a few hours ago with even more hints at her.

I managed to get the "Long time no see" achievement today where you have to fight Gouken on Hardest in Arcade. Considering he's supposed to be harder to get to, his fight is much easier than the Akuma fight but that's probably because he doesn't have a warp to spam.

I beat Arcade on hardest with all character to get the legendery titles but now all I have left to do is stuff involving trials, colours, titles, alt rivalries and the C-grade achievements.

I'm having trouble with the trials. One of Zangiefs trials calls for 3 or so light kicks but, no matter what I do, they don't combo. After one kick, the rest all miss. Colours, titles, alt rivalries shouldn't be too bad but the C-grade achievement could be a bit much for me.

Input the next kicks at a delay of the previous animation. It's hard catching the frame.

Timing for combos in this game is stupid ridiculous.

Yeah, it's kinda exclusionary that way. The one major thing that pisses me off about an otherwise near perfect game.

"Make a fighter for beginners" they said...

What, Mortal Kombat?

But really, linking is gay. 1 frame out of fucking 60?

SF4 was billed as a game that's assessable to lightweights and people coming back to fighting games. Ironically Mortal Kombat 9 will probably do a better job at this.

Nah, everyone I've introduced SF4 to sucks balls at it. Like worse than me when I was fucking 10.

So we agree.

Yeah, it sucks playing against people you destroy, almost as much as getting destroyed yourself. Although I will admit, it is endlessly hilarious, hitting an ultra on someone who doesn't know they exist. Especially when other people are watching who also don't know.

I did this once. Was a bunch of people playing SF4 for the first time and this chick is up and I'm letting her "win" (it looked competitive to all the noobs watching) and then take the lead. So she's got like 40% health and I've got a sliver left and I'm like "k, this match is clearly over" and she's like "eat it, bitch" and Ken is like "Shinryuken" and I win and everyone is like "holy shit" and then 2 of them bought SSF4.

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8149/39763203.jpg

:love:

Man legs.

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6607/35935694.jpg

Cammy's catsuit.

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...ongcostume.jpg
http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20...09_jurialt.jpg

What's with the blurring?

Builds interest or whatever.

wtf I want game of death fei long.

Forest Law's got that on lock in Tekken 3.

Fei Long IS Forest Law

DUN DUN DUNNNNNN oh shit son

Yeah, gonna be fucked if they're both in those crossover games.

They play differently enough. Should be some good gags thrown in.

That's what I mean. Like the Tekken 5 style miniscenes before and after certain fights.

I wonder if they're gonna bother with a story.

They didn't with SSFIV, so....

Give us a manga or something.

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._concept04.jpghttp://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._concept03.jpghttp://media.eventhubs.com/images/20..._concept01.jpg

Juri's hot.

Porn star Gi for Juri

Even Cammy's full body suit manages to have a thong.