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Vastardikai 07-23-2021 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5466266)
New fans are so fucking stupid they think that shit was lauded. That is some of the more maligned stuff in wrestling that was blamed for almost tanking WCW until the nWo angle and made TNA a laughing stock. But sure! As long as we’re not as bad as the very worst!

They missed the Chamber of Horrors.

Triple A 07-23-2021 11:43 PM

oh no

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With <a href="https://twitter.com/paigevanzant?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@paigevanzant</a> …And oh yeah, I retained the title on Wednesday night at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/aewdynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#aewdynamite</a> with a broken wrist. Not taking any time off either. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AndStill?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AndStill</a> <a href="https://t.co/YQVC37Woie">pic.twitter.com/YQVC37Woie</a></p>&mdash; Dr. Britt Baker, D.M.D. (@RealBrittBaker) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealBrittBaker/status/1418758077705293828?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0 07-23-2021 11:45 PM

That’s funny because I always strain my wrist when the good doctor is on TV

Jordan 07-24-2021 09:47 AM

Omega vs Hangman at All Out.

We've all felt it coming, likely to be the next PPV main event. It's a story that's brewed for over a year and a half since Hangman and Page were dysfunctional tag champs now taking head as Omega is World Champ and Hangman the top contender. Hangman would get his second PPV main event and second chance at the AEW Championship. Seems to be a lock that he would become the 4th AEW Champion right? Well what about these new signings?

Would it be something to consider for Omega to retain so that he can defend potentially against CM Punk or Daniel Bryan? It's not been AEW's custom to push new signings into big main events right away. I think that Brodie is the exception but there was an injury that caused that to happen if I remember correctly.

If I signed Bryan or Punk, or both I would want them to be in feature storylines for sure. Both Bryan and Punk can be great heels or great babyfaces. Very hard to see where they would both land upon arrival.

Damian Rey 2.0 07-24-2021 01:16 PM

It certainly feels like everything is adding up for a Hangman title win and I think that’s the right story. He’ll have a nice rogues gallery of heels he feud with until he eventually loses the title. And I think MJF should be the guy who takes the belt off of him.

If I had it my way, MJF beats Jericho decisively at All Out, gets on the mic to run him down and start touting himself as the best, and that’s when Punk’s music hits and out he comes to a massive pop. Plant those seeds early. Maybe have that be Punk’s first feud si that when MJF finally wins the belt, Punk chasing is right there ready to go.

I think pushing Bryan to eventually overthrow Miro is how I would build him up but I’d save that title change for the end of the year. I wanna see Miro keep destroying people.

ron the dial 07-24-2021 01:39 PM

the redeemer baby WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

weather vane 07-24-2021 01:50 PM

I’m excited.

Fignuts 07-24-2021 02:18 PM

Bryan and punk don't need to be in the title picture right off the bat, so I don't think you need to keep the belt on Omega.

That said, I would have one of them go undefeated for a couple months, and then have hangman give them their first loss in a title defense.

Fignuts 07-24-2021 02:19 PM

To be more specific, I would have Hangman beat punk, and then have him hold the title til about this time next year where he drops it to bryan.

Jordan 07-24-2021 02:41 PM

What's important to me is keeping Andrade, Malakai as well as guys like Hangman, Cody, and Mox hot and relevant. I really see Andrade and Malakai as main event level guys and I have a feeling that Tony does too. But nobody wants to see former WWE guys clash in AEW right off the bat.

I think that Kenny and Danielson would be a great program if Hangman defeats Omega at All Out.

I like Damien Rey's idea for Punk/MJF. They could also crossover with Malakai who after beating Cody could go for Hangman's AEW Championship.

I don't really know what's the next big story for Mox. Perhaps a program with Mox/Kingston vs Page and Scorpio, I think the matches would be great. But I think Mox should be favored heavily and I'm not sure that's the best usage for him. Kinda confused where Mox will go without either of his championships.

slik 07-24-2021 02:43 PM

I'd like to see PAC stay relevant too. A lot of these guys could have great matches with PAC.

Really like the Miro/Danielson and MJF/Punk ideas a lot.

Supreme Olajuwon 07-24-2021 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5466384)
oh no

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With <a href="https://twitter.com/paigevanzant?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@paigevanzant</a> …And oh yeah, I retained the title on Wednesday night at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/aewdynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#aewdynamite</a> with a broken wrist. Not taking any time off either. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AndStill?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AndStill</a> <a href="https://t.co/YQVC37Woie">pic.twitter.com/YQVC37Woie</a></p>&mdash; Dr. Britt Baker, D.M.D. (@RealBrittBaker) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealBrittBaker/status/1418758077705293828?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Haven’t had a good cast gimmick in a while. Britt is perfect for it. Sometimes wrestling writes itself.

Jordan 07-24-2021 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5466448)
I'd like to see PAC stay relevant too. A lot of these guys could have great matches with PAC.

Really like the Miro/Danielson and MJF/Punk ideas a lot.

Yes Pac or sure. Honestly AEW is about to be booming with top notch talent. I was thrilled with Andrade and Malakai but Punk and Danielson are over the top.

Also look forward to something with Malakai and Punk,. I've always thought of Black as "the next CM Punk", in his own way.

slik 07-24-2021 04:10 PM

We need a good "cast magic" gimmick where a wrestler keeps switching the cast from one arm to another

Fignuts 07-24-2021 04:27 PM

Could see. Mox going after Miro next.

Jordan 07-24-2021 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5466465)
We need a good "cast magic" gimmick where a wrestler keeps switching the cast from one arm to another

:lol: yes I am all for it

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5466466)
Could see. Mox going after Miro next.

Yeah that would definitely be of interest.

rez 07-24-2021 10:47 PM

If the rumors are true that Braun is resigning with WWE...anything to do with these "signings" ?

rez 07-24-2021 10:48 PM

Vega's showing at the PPV seems like it.

Damian Rey 2.0 07-24-2021 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5466445)
What's important to me is keeping Andrade, Malakai as well as guys like Hangman, Cody, and Mox hot and relevant. I really see Andrade and Malakai as main event level guys and I have a feeling that Tony does too. But nobody wants to see former WWE guys clash in AEW right off the bat.

I think that Kenny and Danielson would be a great program if Hangman defeats Omega at All Out.

I like Damien Rey's idea for Punk/MJF. They could also crossover with Malakai who after beating Cody could go for Hangman's AEW Championship.

I don't really know what's the next big story for Mox. Perhaps a program with Mox/Kingston vs Page and Scorpio, I think the matches would be great. But I think Mox should be favored heavily and I'm not sure that's the best usage for him. Kinda confused where Mox will go without either of his championships.

I was fantasy booking the Jericho Gage match in my head thinking maybe Moxley interferes in some way, costing Gage the match and kicking off a blood feud that culminates at All Out in an unsanctioned death match.

Jordan 07-24-2021 11:29 PM

Oh yes that would be great.

Vastardikai 07-25-2021 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5466456)
Haven’t had a good cast gimmick in a while. Britt is perfect for it. Sometimes wrestling writes itself.

Something that almost certainly happened Thursday...

Patient: I'm here for my cleaning!

Receptionist: I'm sorry, but your appointment has been canceled.

Patient: Again?

Receptionist: Yes, sir. Unfortunately, your Dentist broke her wrist last night.

Patient: What? How did this keep happening? Can I get another dentist? Dr. Baker is just awful!

Vastardikai 07-25-2021 01:58 AM

Another thought, trying to look on the bright side:

With the way AEW books their Women's Division, Britt won't have to worry about missing any time in the ring. She'll be 100% healed by the time the get around to giving her another match.

xrodmuc316 07-25-2021 12:20 PM

Im wondering why Vince hasnt formed a working partnership with AEW. Vince is the only wrestling promoter that hasnt figured out how to get money from that mark Tony Khan :rofl:

Maluco 07-25-2021 01:18 PM

What is going on with Chris Jericho? Is this what we always would have gotten with no Vince McMahon filter?

“Tha Painmaker” looks awful. I can’t believe what a legend of the business is doing to himself at the end. The makeup and look just adds to the whole “washed up” idea that the basketball tweets alluded to.

AEW and the creative freedom is making him look really bad.

Lock Jaw 07-25-2021 01:50 PM

The "Painmaker" look is very terrible, yeah....

Damian Rey 2.0 07-25-2021 01:58 PM

The idea I’d the painmaker fine. The clockwork orange knock off with the weird makeup is the bad part. Get rid of the hat and face paint, keep the jacket and it’s fine as a look.

xrodmuc316 07-25-2021 09:17 PM

My biggest issue with it is, what is the difference? I know he did it in NJPW as kind of a character reinvention after all his time in WWE, but what does it mean now? Its Finn Balor/Demon all over again. Adding some facepaint but then doing the exact same moveset just means its Chris Jericho in facepaint.

Fignuts 07-25-2021 09:32 PM

In New japan it was more of a way of mocking Okada.

His persona and style was more vicious in njpw. Think early AEW Jericho without as much comedy. It was actually pretty great.

Noid 07-25-2021 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5466831)
My biggest issue with it is, what is the difference? I know he did it in NJPW as kind of a character reinvention after all his time in WWE, but what does it mean now? Its Finn Balor/Demon all over again. Adding some facepaint but then doing the exact same moveset just means its Chris Jericho in facepaint.

He's playing to his audience. He knows how gullible wrestling fans are. With so less effort.

fundiddle 07-25-2021 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5466834)
His persona and style was more vicious in njpw. Think early AEW Jericho without as much comedy. It was actually pretty great.

coming off the heels of that career highlight program with kevin owens, he actually seemed believable as a pissed off heel in new japan, it's crazy how fast things can change. that all seems like forever ago now

Evil Vito 07-27-2021 11:20 PM

In the intro for the latest episode his of Wrestling Anonymous podcast, Colt Cabana seemingly confirmed that he tested positive for COVID despite being double vaxxed since February, and that he most likely caught it working the gimmick table at an IPW show in Waterloo, Iowa.

weather vane 07-28-2021 12:22 AM

Deadly

Evil Vito 07-28-2021 06:48 AM

It’s worth keeping an eye on because AEW officials are said to be extremely concerned that big cities like Chicago and NY could end up shutting down big events again over delta by the time September gets here. And they’re already working out contingencies which would effectively mean permanent residence in Daily’s Place again.

Punk and Bryan appearing in front of no fans would be awful.

I really hope it doesn’t come to this. I’d rather we move to a policy of “show proof of vaccination to get into this event” and let the loons squawk about their rights than shut events down again.

Jordan 07-28-2021 09:45 AM

Yeah that report is definitely worrying to me. I hope things don't come to that. Plz give us Arthur Ashe.

Evil Vito 07-28-2021 09:54 AM

MSG was always requiring full vaccine proof for SmackDown. Colbert and other late night hosts are doing the same thing for their audiences, and I'm guessing Broadway will too once they open.

Best guess is by September Arthur Ashe is doing the same thing, if it doesn't become a NYC mandate. Way better to do that instead of just shutting it all down again.

Triple A 07-28-2021 12:03 PM

Yeah hopefully they don't shut down stuff again... Feel like I doubt they will in the US. Will be hard to "put the genie back in the bottle" or w/e

Especially since death/hospitalization rates are still relatively low even if cases are going up

Jordan 07-28-2021 01:14 PM

At Arthur Ashe they can open the roof if they want to make it outdoor which would be nice, should still be good weather by then if it's not raining. I know it won't make any official difference but I don't mind if they make their live events mask mandatory. I'm probably going to mask at Arthur, at least I've thought about it, I am vaxxed though. Also I'm going to MLS at Yankee Stadium Friday, not planning to wear my mask but I will if I feel I should.

BigCrippyZ 07-28-2021 02:50 PM

I don't see everything shutting down again in any major way like it was. I could certainly see vaccination proof requirements and/or mask requirements however. I also think we're going to see a 3rd dose EUA approval or recommendation sometime in the next 6 months.

I'm 3 months fully vaxxed now w/ my 2 Pfizer doses and I'm going to a client's outdoor stadium concert on Saturday night, but I'm still going to wear a mask likely most of the time depending on where I'm at and who/how many people I'm around, etc.

slik 07-28-2021 05:40 PM

I'm sure the hardcore wwe fans will react well to this (it's not even a super negative statement, it's very Renee and she's correct)


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Renee Paquette claimed that AEW doesn't treat their fans as stupid as WWE does:<a href="https://t.co/OmBXSVNBjk">https://t.co/OmBXSVNBjk</a></p>&mdash; WrestleTalk (@WrestleTalk_TV) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleTalk_TV/status/1420367481684873222?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316 07-28-2021 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5467425)
I'm sure the hardcore wwe fans will react well to this (it's not even a super negative statement, it's very Renee and she's correct)


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Renee Paquette claimed that AEW doesn't treat their fans as stupid as WWE does:<a href="https://t.co/OmBXSVNBjk">https://t.co/OmBXSVNBjk</a></p>&mdash; WrestleTalk (@WrestleTalk_TV) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleTalk_TV/status/1420367481684873222?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL of course she did.

Was nothing wrong with WWE while she worked there for 8 years, but now bad baaaaaaad WWE.

It's not upsetting, it is the cliche blueprint.

Damian Rey 2.0 07-28-2021 05:47 PM

She’s 100% correct

xrodmuc316 07-28-2021 05:59 PM

How to get over with AEW fans.

Step 1: WWE IS BAD!

That's it, legit all it takes.

100% :rofl:

#1-norm-fan 07-28-2021 06:10 PM

Hell, I’m not even an AEW fan and that’s an easy way to get over with me.

Fignuts 07-29-2021 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5467427)
LOL of course she did.

Was nothing wrong with WWE while she worked there for 8 years, but now bad baaaaaaad WWE.

It's not upsetting, it is the cliche blueprint.

People typically don't talk shit about the company they work for while they're still working there. Good way to not only get fired, but also get a reputation of being difficult to work with.

I'm sure there will be some people that will have unpleasant things to say about AEW once they're gone. JR comes to mind immediately.

Evil Vito 07-29-2021 08:42 AM

XRod being an imbecile? I am SHOCKED!

drave 07-29-2021 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5467738)
People typically don't talk shit about the company they work for while they're still working there. Good way to not only get fired, but also get a reputation of being difficult to work with.

I'm sure there will be some people that will have unpleasant things to say about AEW once they're gone. JR comes to mind immediately.




100% this. Very simple to understand.

Noid 07-29-2021 10:35 AM

Dynamite is exponentially more entertaining than Raw. One seems to have linear progression while the other is just filling in tv time.

xrodmuc316 07-29-2021 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5467738)
People typically don't talk shit about the company they work for while they're still working there. Good way to not only get fired, but also get a reputation of being difficult to work with.

I'm sure there will be some people that will have unpleasant things to say about AEW once they're gone. JR comes to mind immediately.

2 things.

If she had such a problem with WWE why would she work there for so long.

The narrative seems to change as time passes and she doesnt land her next job. Went from her saying how much she loved working there and thanking everyone, then went back for a one off appearance, to lets start talking more and more about how WWE bad, AEW good.

It is the standard progression to get over with AEW. Its not that she is even wrong, its that the take is cliche.

drave 07-29-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5467762)
2 things.

If she had such a problem with WWE why would she work there for so long.

The narrative seems to change as time passes and she doesnt land her next job. Went from her saying how much she loved working there and thanking everyone, then went back for a one off appearance, to lets start talking more and more about how WWE bad, AEW good.

It is the standard progression to get over with AEW. Its not that she is even wrong, its that the take is cliche.


Why did she stay so long?


Was there any other game in town at the time? If so, I'm sure they weren't paying her #WWEMoney. Seems like a smart life choice to "toe the line" and continue to get paid rather than air grievances and get fired, which the "E" has a history of doing.


I only speak from personal experiences in my life though. Stomaching a shit job while looking for another so I don't miss pay. I had to work with one of the worst people I've ever met in my life, and he was a C-level, so any "reporting" would have ended up with ME losing my job.

xrodmuc316 07-29-2021 11:02 AM

0 issue with that Drave.

In this situation though, a former WWE employee disparaging WWE while also praising AEW, is so standard and unoriginal that it is practically a prerequisite to get the admiration of the fanbase.

Noid 07-29-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5467769)
0 issue with that Drave.

In this situation though, a former WWE employee disparaging WWE while also praising AEW, is so standard and unoriginal that it is practically a prerequisite to get the admiration of the fanbase.

She's simply stating a fact even if it is unoriginal, dull and in line with the overwhelming consensus.

drave 07-29-2021 12:31 PM

Or maybe you hyperfocus on that point because reasons?


Remove the "branding" and replace it with generic words.


"I wasn't happy at my former workplace now that I've been to a new place and see how things can be. I like this workplace better than my old one." It's a rather normal thing that people outside of the wrestling world experience daily.



¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Whatever floats your boat

Damian Rey 2.0 07-29-2021 12:58 PM

Xrod just needs to constantly complain about anything aew because he’s a sad and bored little man, and doing the anti aew shtick and plugging into seemingly every thread he’s in gives him life, apparently. Hence why the mute button is a wonderful thing.

Fignuts 07-29-2021 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5467769)
0 issue with that Drave.

In this situation though, a former WWE employee disparaging WWE while also praising AEW, is so standard and unoriginal that it is practically a prerequisite to get the admiration of the fanbase.

And it's going to keep happening, because regardless of how you feel about AEW's content, it is by all accounts a much more laid back, enjoyable place to work.

Instead of mocking people for liking AEW's work environment, you should take aim at wwe for creating one that is seemingly miserable to be a part of.

xrodmuc316 07-29-2021 03:08 PM

Again, no problem with the message itself, but like Drave just said, it will keep happening.

I initially wrote "of course she said that", because its what they all say. At this point how is it even news? Its not breaking some secret inside information.

There is no legitimate reason to go out of their way to say that other than to personally gain favor with AEW.

That has nothing to do with Anti AEW no matter what people defending AEW say.

drave 07-29-2021 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5467427)
LOL of course she did.

Was nothing wrong with WWE while she worked there for 8 years, but now bad baaaaaaad WWE.

It's not upsetting, it is the cliche blueprint.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5467857)
Again, no problem with the message itself, but like Drave just said, it will keep happening.

I initially wrote "of course she said that", because its what they all say. At this point how is it even news? Its not breaking some secret inside information.

There is no legitimate reason to go out of their way to say that other than to personally gain favor with AEW.

That has nothing to do with Anti AEW no matter what people defending AEW say.




So is it the fact that she stated her opinion or that it was considered "news" by some random twitter "reporter"?

xrodmuc316 07-29-2021 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5467808)
Xrod just needs to constantly complain about anything aew because he’s a sad and bored little man, and doing the anti aew shtick and plugging into seemingly every thread he’s in gives him life, apparently. Hence why the mute button is a wonderful thing.

Somebody quote me for this idiot.

I literally said nothing bad about AEW, just that a former WWE employee talking bad about WWE while praising AEW is S.O.P.

Pointing out DAILY that you have somebody muted makes you feel good somehow, which I can only guess because why else would you come here just to make posts about it? That is the markings of a sad and bored little man.

Evil Vito 07-29-2021 03:23 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">someone on something awful pointed out the extra spotlight at the end �� <a href="https://t.co/BOqDnWN9Zx">pic.twitter.com/BOqDnWN9Zx</a></p>&mdash; funny t (@yngsovereign) <a href="https://twitter.com/yngsovereign/status/1420604345427451904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-29-2021 04:25 PM

3rd week in a row over 1 million


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW Dynamite last night on TNT was watched by 1,108,000 viewers on average. <br><br>582,000 viewers were aged 18-49 (about a 0.45 rating).<br><br>�� Read more analysis and info across demos: <a href="https://t.co/eI0E5QCBFL">https://t.co/eI0E5QCBFL</a> <a href="https://t.co/0Ss1oCE0qI">pic.twitter.com/0Ss1oCE0qI</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1420842043300065285?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-29-2021 04:31 PM

July 29 - 1.10 million
July 22 - 1.14 million
July 7 - 1.02 million

slik 07-29-2021 06:43 PM

Weird


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vince McMahon on AEW: &quot;I’m not sure where their investments are. When it comes to their talent, perhaps we could give them some more&quot;</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1420864930148913157?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vince really trails off here, so it's hard to tell if this is a sick burn, or him asking Nick Khan to add more color to their views on AEW. McMahon has not been answering questions on the Q&amp;A portion of late.</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1420866527574831108?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Being a WWE wrestler must feel really cool and normal right now after their boss just joked on an investor call that he should fire more of them to try to sabotage AEW.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1420868238469181443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fignuts 07-29-2021 07:14 PM

I mean he's not wrong. Literally everyone on their roster has been mismanaged to some degree. Even Cody was stuck in that dreadful feud with the factory for a while.

Bad News Gertner 07-29-2021 07:18 PM

AEW picking up the WWE's scraps to do half the number TNA did.

Vince knocks it out of the park

R.I.P

slik 07-29-2021 07:37 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/dominos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Dominos</a> Pizza is disavowing any knowledge or involvement in <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWonTNT</a>'s bloody telecast Wednesday night, which showed one wrestler slicing his opponent's head open with pizza cutter. <br><br>Domino's threatening to pull future ads. Full story <a href="https://twitter.com/FOS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FOS</a>:<a href="https://t.co/PeyuuIsAER">https://t.co/PeyuuIsAER</a></p>&mdash; Michael McCarthy (@MMcCarthyREV) <a href="https://twitter.com/MMcCarthyREV/status/1420882314108841988?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-29-2021 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5467902)
I mean he's not wrong. Literally everyone on their roster has been mismanaged to some degree. Even Cody was stuck in that dreadful feud with the factory for a while.

WWE hasn't exactly managed their talent real great either. I don't think that's what he's talking about really.

I don't think Vince even viewed WCW as competition, he viewed Ted Turner as competition. He has no reason to view Shahid Khan as competition. I do agree with Bix if I was an employee it'd probably rub me the wrong way to indifferently joke about firing people but I also think that's just Vince. He would have said something like that 40 years ago too. It's weird but that's Vinny Mac.

Triple A 07-29-2021 07:57 PM

Would have to hear his tone when he said it, but sounds like he is trying to "burn" AEW saying maybe they can give them more talent because their talent is lacking or w/e

slik 07-29-2021 08:01 PM

You can barely hear him bc Vince never turns his mic up


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vince McMahon and Nick Khan talk AEW <a href="https://t.co/iTpXgzmT7u">pic.twitter.com/iTpXgzmT7u</a></p>&mdash; Jed I. Goodman (@jedigoodman) <a href="https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/1420865478440865792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Supreme Olajuwon 07-29-2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5467893)
Weird


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vince McMahon on AEW: &quot;I’m not sure where their investments are. When it comes to their talent, perhaps we could give them some more&quot;</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1420864930148913157?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vince really trails off here, so it's hard to tell if this is a sick burn, or him asking Nick Khan to add more color to their views on AEW. McMahon has not been answering questions on the Q&amp;A portion of late.</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1420866527574831108?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Being a WWE wrestler must feel really cool and normal right now after their boss just joked on an investor call that he should fire more of them to try to sabotage AEW.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1420868238469181443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Arrogance and hubris is what started the downfall of WCW. Sounds a lot like “Cactus Jack is about to become their world champion. That’ll put butts in the seats”

xrodmuc316 07-29-2021 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5467860)
So is it the fact that she stated her opinion or that it was considered "news" by some random twitter "reporter"?

Just that its not at all surprising. She is trying to gain favor by doing exactly what they all do, WWE BAD AEW GOOD.

Nothing more.

Noid 07-29-2021 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5467915)
Just that its not at all surprising. She is trying to gain favor by doing exactly what they all do, WWE BAD AEW GOOD.

Nothing more.

That’s incredibly lazy man. Do better.

Triple A 07-29-2021 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5467908)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/dominos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Dominos</a> Pizza is disavowing any knowledge or involvement in <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWonTNT</a>'s bloody telecast Wednesday night, which showed one wrestler slicing his opponent's head open with pizza cutter. <br><br>Domino's threatening to pull future ads. Full story <a href="https://twitter.com/FOS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FOS</a>:<a href="https://t.co/PeyuuIsAER">https://t.co/PeyuuIsAER</a></p>&mdash; Michael McCarthy (@MMcCarthyREV) <a href="https://twitter.com/MMcCarthyREV/status/1420882314108841988?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

this guy's article is weird and horribly written tbh

also the Domino's statement is obviously in response to him "snitching" and complaining about the spot, "expressing his concern" to them... rather than Domino's putting out a statement on their own

Quote:

“We share the concerns expressed about this incident and the content of this TV-14 rated program, and are assessing our advertising presence on it going forward"

Triple A 07-29-2021 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5467911)
You can barely hear him bc Vince never turns his mic up


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vince McMahon and Nick Khan talk AEW <a href="https://t.co/iTpXgzmT7u">pic.twitter.com/iTpXgzmT7u</a></p>&mdash; Jed I. Goodman (@jedigoodman) <a href="https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/1420865478440865792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In that it kinda sounds like "Perhaps we could give them some more" is a separate sentence, maybe talking to Nick Khan, telling him to give the investors some more info...?

Supreme Olajuwon 07-29-2021 10:19 PM

That does seem less aggressive than the transcription.

Fignuts 07-29-2021 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5467915)
Just that its not at all surprising. She is trying to gain favor by doing exactly what they all do, WWE BAD AEW GOOD.

Nothing more.

So if you have a better experience at your new job than you did at your old one, you're not allowed to talk about it, or else you're trying to "gain favor".

Got it.

xrodmuc316 07-29-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5467939)
So if you have a better experience at your new job than you did at your old one, you're not allowed to talk about it, or else you're trying to "gain favor".

Got it.

I dont care that she talked about it. My whole point was it is not surprising she said it, that it is so commonplace that it is a cliche.

And no that argument does not apply in most cases. If I work at Deloitte and leave, I am not going to try and get a job at Ernst & Young by constantly bashing Deloitte. The logical deduction would be that Ernst & Young would not hire me for being unprofessional.

Does it work for potential AEW employment? The obvious answer is yes, which is why they all do it. They do it to stroke the ego of their potential new boss, and they do it to placate to the fanbase.

Its neither good or bad, its just the normal process.

xrodmuc316 07-29-2021 10:57 PM

Also, I would like to point out that only Fan got the joke part, and he came back with a great joke as well. There really wasnt anything to it beyond that.

Vastardikai 07-29-2021 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5467940)
I dont care that she talked about it. My whole point was it is not surprising she said it, that it is so commonplace that it is a cliche.

And no that argument does not apply in most cases. If I work at Deloitte and leave, I am not going to try and get a job at Ernst & Young by constantly bashing Deloitte. The logical deduction would be that Ernst & Young would not hire me for being unprofessional.

Does it work for potential AEW employment? The obvious answer is yes, which is why they all do it. They do it to stroke the ego of their potential new boss, and they do it to placate to the fanbase.

Its neither good or bad, its just the normal process.

"FED BAD" (TM SCJerk) was a thing back in TNA, as well.

I am disappointed that I lost my last job, and I hate my current job. But I'm not gonna tell my future employer that my current job sucks. They'll think I'm a toxic person.

Fignuts 07-29-2021 11:16 PM

It's all just an assumption. They say it because it's true, and because there's an audience for it. I personally doubt that audience is Tony khan, because he's the biggest mark in the industry. It's not necessary to gain favor through these type of comments because they already do it by simply existing.

Also, here's the whole quote, rather than a shitty one sentence summary.

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“They (AEW) don’t treat their fans stupid, in terms of not knowing what this is and we’re going to beat you over the head to make sure you understand it.I understand the reasoning of why they do that obviously, but I think with smart fans, and the way that people have access to looking into information that they might not know and being able to connect the dots themselves, I think that there’s something really cool about that that people like to have that sense of discovery, rather than being talked to like they don’t understand.”
That's something we as fans have harped on wwe about, but I can't recall an actual talent talking about that specific issue. Considering that her job as an interviewer and analyst is directly tied to the presentation of the product, it's not surprising she'd speak out about the difference in how both companies handle this sort of thing.

Vastardikai 07-29-2021 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5467935)
this guy's article is weird and horribly written tbh

also the Domino's statement is obviously in response to him "snitching" and complaining about the spot, "expressing his concern" to them... rather than Domino's putting out a statement on their own

It was hilarious to me for the reason why it has come to pass. "Oh, Domino's is NOT going to want to be associated with that." And is it the "snitcher" or the fact that people are posting it, loling at that meth head looking guy holding up a pizza cutter juxtaposed over the ad for pizza. Someone likely even tagged Domino's to the post. Someone had to see it, and naturally they were going to get asked about it. It'd be like if Priscilla Kelly did the tampon spot in the middle of a show, right before an ad for Tampax.

I'm just waiting to see if they go All In (heh) with it, and have Gage come out next week in a Red Bunny suit.

Damian Rey 2.0 07-30-2021 12:27 AM

The idea that Renee, who seems to be universally beloved, needs to gain favor, is hilarious.

slik 07-30-2021 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5467935)
this guy's article is weird and horribly written tbh

also the Domino's statement is obviously in response to him "snitching" and complaining about the spot, "expressing his concern" to them... rather than Domino's putting out a statement on their own


Bix is on it


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Huh, that's odd. Why isn't Front Office Sports including disclaimers Re: their referrals to/ads from (hell if I know which it is) Draft Kings, a WWE business partner, in their stories about WWE &amp; WWE competitors? Do they put disclaimers in ANY stories about DraftKings partners? <a href="https://t.co/aSByHQj0Hi">https://t.co/aSByHQj0Hi</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1420900588607492097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Q2 WWE investor call, 2019: Vince uses AEW ? to rant Re: “blood &amp; guts” to try to hurt AEW w/ sponsors.<br><br>Same call, 2021: Vince ignores previous night’s bloodbath when AEW comes up but article Re: AEW/blood/sponsors drops 90min later on site making $ from WWE's partner.<br><br>Hm. Odd.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1420906205476704258?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also very odd how the Front Office Sports story doesn’t say if they reached out to AEW and WarnerMedia for comment. If I were writing a story about this, I’d absolutely email the AEW and TNT spokespeople about it since a huge part of the story is if the placement was deliberate.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1420902028545507329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FWIW, Michael McCarthy’s only previous pro wrestling story on Front Office Sports is that weird “WWE wants to be the new Marvel” one.<br><br>Y’know, the one where he freaked out when I politely asked him if speculating publicly Re: sourcing would blow his shit up/was best to avoid.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1420894547383656453?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Look, Occam’s Razor suggests that it’s probably just a badly-written article from someone who knew they could get a statement out of Domino’s easily. But this whole thing feels REALLY weird.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1420909000850292737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-30-2021 01:44 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A big drop in all demographics followed that quarter. Viewership steadily climbed each quarter after.<br><br>Chris Jericho vs. Nick Gage in the main event was watched by 1.179 million total and 633k in 18-49. It was the 2nd-most viewed quarter, both total and in the key demo.</p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1420965062232190976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Vastardikai 07-30-2021 01:52 AM

Or maybe, just maybe, a bunch of folks posted the video of the Bank Addicted Drug Robber cutting up Jericho with a pizza cutter as a Domino's commercial played. And the folks who saw the video retweeted it, and some of them may have even tagged the Domino's Twitter account. Maybe the Social Media guy saw the videos getting retweeted, realized this was a bad look for his company, and relayed the info to his superiors.

Nah, Fed BAD!!!

drave 07-30-2021 08:50 AM

It's so dumb, but also a perfect example of "2021" and why you have to walk a very narrow path in the public eye.

slik 07-30-2021 02:06 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW sold over 10,000 tickets today during the pre-sale for &quot;The First Dance&quot; at The United Center in Chicago.<br><br>I was told that there are seats in all price categories held back for Monday's public on-sale at 11 a.m. ET. <br><br>Four words by Darby Allin proved very effective.</p>&mdash; John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1421165822031142913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-30-2021 02:07 PM

IDK anything about trading cards, someone else tell me if this is a 'big deal' or 'interesting' plz


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For all the card/memorabilia collectors- Directly from <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/UpperDeckSports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UpperDeckSports</a>. <a href="https://t.co/Exf8vXsf8n">pic.twitter.com/Exf8vXsf8n</a></p>&mdash; SNE NETWORK (@SNENetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/SNENetwork/status/1421140877590908933?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fignuts 07-30-2021 03:38 PM

No, trading cards have never recovered from the oversaturation in the 90's.

slik 07-30-2021 03:52 PM

I know Frank Drebin has his baseball cards but that is the extent of my knowledge, thank you

slik 07-30-2021 03:52 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just talked to <a href="https://twitter.com/WarnerMedia?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WarnerMedia</a> trying to get on <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWonTNT</a> next Wednesday</p>&mdash; Pabst Blue Ribbon (@PabstBlueRibbon) <a href="https://twitter.com/PabstBlueRibbon/status/1421185123878330368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-30-2021 03:56 PM

Damn...


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Make that 12,000+ sold thus far. ^JN <a href="https://t.co/DqW4nGnK9G">https://t.co/DqW4nGnK9G</a></p>&mdash; Wrestling Observer (@WONF4W) <a href="https://twitter.com/WONF4W/status/1421195942234107910?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Supreme Olajuwon 07-30-2021 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5468010)
No, trading cards have never recovered from the oversaturation in the 90's.

According to this we’re entering a new trading card boom

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/inves...les/index.html

Sepholio 07-30-2021 04:02 PM

just for the sake of lulz imagine if they don't actually sign Punk. It'll be bad.

slik 07-30-2021 04:06 PM

I read online that Walmart and Target quit selling Magic The Gathering cards recently because of fans trying to break into the delivery trucks and 'guarding' the decks in the store to see who was buying what

IDK anything about Magic the Gathering but this sounded 'very intense'

drave 07-30-2021 04:18 PM

Same with Pokemon. Target stopped selling them because fatties were fighting over who took the most cards home to their fucking basement, and which fag had to eat tendies with his anus

drave 07-30-2021 04:18 PM

fucking idiots. humanity man

xrodmuc316 07-30-2021 04:24 PM

I havent bought any trading cards since the 90's, but the WCW ones were awesome!

https://i.redd.it/jqpaxhtx1jm21.jpg

Jordan 07-30-2021 04:52 PM

Anyone got the scoop on what AEW is doing with Rampage tapings? I am having trouble figuring out if they are taping multiple weeks at one taping or if they will tape Dark/Elevation before the Rampage show begins. Just thinking that attending a one hour show is pretty lackluster of an experience and even with that I'd hope that they beef up the Dark/Elevation match quality because I would be disappointed with the typical card they have for those shows.

Damian Rey 2.0 07-30-2021 04:55 PM

I would imagine they’ll take one of their dark episodes before or after rampage

slik 07-30-2021 05:09 PM

They should have Vickie Guerrero cut a one hour long promo before the show to rile the crowd up

slik 07-30-2021 05:09 PM

while wearing a cape


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