Tony Khan, call me.

You smoked so much you came up with Playboy Buddy Rose, Dude Love and Big Daddy V.
Good stuff.

I think somebody needs to do Rocky 3 in wrestling. A familiar long term Champion is absolutely battered by a beast-mode Goldberg style challenger. Then the Champ has to completely change style to win the belt back after months of intense training.
The hero's manager or trainer would have to die though.

Sounds like the Sid/HBK feud in 96.

YOU POTHEAD

Not really like that at all. And Jose Lethario didn’t even die.

This is great lol. Imagine the moment when eventually he snaps and just tells everyone to stfu because he's heard them the whole time. Amazing.

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I loved Wall Street Tycoon.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the most recent old WON has one of the great 00s WWE stories, the time Johnny Ace signed the wrong one legged man. <a href="https://t.co/7y1EgkcsJ7">pic.twitter.com/7y1EgkcsJ7</a></p>&mdash; luchablog (@luchablog) <a href="https://twitter.com/luchablog/status/1230010351829340160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Found this really cool youtube channel called "The WCW Feed". It has a bunch of sound checks and pre show matches taped for the following week Thunder with no commentary. It's really cool. You hear stuff like Tony and Heenan rehearsals, the guys making fun of other WCW employees. Really awesome stuff. I absolutely love stuff like this.

https://m.youtube.com/user/thewcwfeed

This makes me miss "Gigolo" Jimmy Del Ray.

This would be so over in AEW :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I legit think it's a brilliant angle lol. I keep thinking of Eugene back in the day and envisioning him playing this angle instead.

Wrestlemania 10 legend Sy Sperling(Hair Club For Men) passed away

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Eugene should have done a Usual Suspects reveal at some point. Nick Dinsmore would have gone on to be a massive heel.

Matt Hardy teasing he's making a major announcement on March 2nd regarding the future of his career.

Since its on a Monday, its speculated he's either going to reveal he signed a new deal with WWE or left for AEW since Mondays are also when new Being The Elite episodes are released.

Makes me think it’s WWE. Surely AEW would want the Exalted One to be revealed on TV.

I feel like it's an open field for Hardy. Imagine the offer ROH has for him, what, 40 dates for 500k or more?

Yeah, if Sinclair are paying for keeps, even though I feel like Matt Hardy is past it, I can see them making a juicy offer. He can work with Bully Ray and mentor some a tag team in storylines or whatever. He's not worthless, he's just not as brilliant as he thinks he is and it's hard to get excited for anything he does.

This would be another case of AEW frankly just not being able to get the talent they really want to get in order to paint themselves as that "Ellis Island of Professional Wrestling."

Today is the birthday of the late great Buddy Rogers.

I thought we figured out its Raven since AEW's Twitter pointed him out in the crowd but didn't call him Raven

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If that’s how they reveal that Raven is the leader that’s really lame. There’s gotta be more to it.

Raven was clearly out there as a red herring.

According to the Observer Newsletter, seems demand at the moment for WWE non-Mania events are at its lowest in years.

Besides hurting WWE, all the indie promotions running events that weekend also are likely looking at lower numbers this year if the traveling crowd is at its weakest in years.

AEW coming along hasn't reinvigorated anything, it's dried it up.

Not really since that's more of an indictment of how low the general interest is for WWE this year and less about other notable promotions like AEW or even ROH and their collapse last year.

WWE's response to AEW's early success was pretty much doing nothing in response to fix the serious issues and perception with their main shows and becoming too involved with NXT to its own detriment.

Nah, it’s also an indictment on how bland AEW has been. WWE also put on a great Royal Rumble and have pretty good focus going into WrestleMania. There’s just too much content in general. NXT has been kept relatively cold. WWE haven’t put much into it at all (unless you consider winning something like the Survivor Series a lot).

Those are some of those Meltzer myths designed to make WWE look rotten and anyone not WWE look heroic. Bland wrestling is everywhere.

Your hatred of AEW and Meltzer has really clouded your view or perception in recent months.

Plus WWE has been a lot more active with NXT than they were prior to the USA Network deal. NXT being "cold" is due to Triple H completely misjudging both AEW and his own view of NXT.

I don't hate Meltzer, I'm just weary of his bias and how he's been wrong about lots of AEW/NXT related stuff. AEW lost me -- that's their fault. I'm not obligated to enjoy anything else put out by any other company just because they're not WWE.

WWE are a little more active with NXT, but that would have been expected even if there was not competition for it, but it is nowhere near what that narrative of things makes out. For months Meltzer and Alvarez were blasting WWE for not advertising NXT on Raw or SmackDown, and scratching their heads as to why. Which way do they want it? Did WWE do a shitty job promoting NXT, or are they throwing so much into it because they're obsessed with AEW. They're opposing dichotomies and Meltzer and Alvarez just switch depending on how they want to position them that day.

I'm nowhere near a Triple H fan, but it was pretty obvious what NXT was doing from the start. And it's pretty obvious that they are not running full sprint with this thing so they don't burn people out on it. It's cool to say that Triple H doesn't know what he's doing and he doesn't understand AEW or NXT, but I just don't think that's the reality of what's happening. They knew full well what they were doing when their biggest attraction for a few weeks was a tag team tournament. And no, I don't think Triple H expected Charlotte Flair to boost the ratings by hundreds of thousands of people.

Not with how many stars they through at NXT when they were promoting Survivor Series.

Becky Lynch, AJ Styles & The Revival? Sure. Then they stopped doing it and have let it settle back down before they do it again.

I wish I had the audacity to form strong opinions on topics and shows I skim through or read about online.

lol get a fucking life

You could, you just need to not be such a coward. Or just look at the data.

You can be such a duffer at times.

Thanks for your strong opinion on something you don’t watch/skim the results of.

Noid currently jacking off intensely, reciting that incredibly weak retort under his breath while thinking about that one time Jim Cornette got his dick out in public to show everyone how much he hates Vince Russo.

It is impossible to engage in anything remotely constructive when you make outlandish comments. I find this utterly exhausting.

UTTERLY exhausting.

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What was constructive about your initial comment?

The MJF one looks great

I stopped trying a while ago. This isn’t working.

I don’t even know who you are lol

Ah, thanks for that. No major loss then.

So, not only are they going to have to do it again because they can't beat AEW without doing it, but they also know this and aren't doing anything to improve and change that? And that's their actual fucking plan and strategy? Yeah, such a great fucking analysis, plan, and strategy by HHH there. :lol: :roll:

It’s pretty obvious they want to grow NXT largely away from WWE and without going too hard or hot-shotting. It seems to me that they are weary about stirring up the fan-base about being “unfair” and creating more of an underdog culture around AEW. It’s pretty obviously slow and steady with them, which is why it is absolute bullshit when Meltzer says stuff like “Vince wanted them dead.” Yeah, the Dusty Tag Classic was really going to achieve that.

The ratings for AEW and NXT are both so low and so comparable that it’s really a stalemate. The way you say “they can’t beat AEW” has this taint of AEW being some sort of juggernaut or something. It’s a distant, distant 3rd/joint 4th in the race, isn’t growing an audience and is a mess when it comes to coherent stories. They’re thriving off the hardcore fan-base that are going to have their dicks in their hands whenever WWE stock goes down and are going to support AEW no matter how much they suck because they’re not WWE and still have new car smell.

Double or Nothing II hasn’t sold out (yet). The buildings aren’t selling. The PPV retention rate between Double or Nothing and All Out was something like 30%. They’ve lost about 500k potential viewers. Any criticism you have for WWE can apply to them. A lot of the time they even act like a more bush league version of WWE.

It’s not completely cold with the passionate fan-base yet, but it is cooling. When that final straw of goodwill finally snaps, it will be just another TNA. It’s sad, because someone really could come along and challenge Vince right now, but it’s not going to be a promotion that treats Glacier like a legend.

People are allowed to be biased, by the way. If people want to gush over AEW using the exact same tired tropes as WWE, that’s their prerogative. But I’m kind of over the vibe in the air that you have to like them or that they are objectively good. I’m so fucking tired of pro-wrestling underwhelming that more underwhelming wrestling isn’t going to get my patience. Sorry.

Story of my life. Thought we had something special going on, Noid.

Braun is a funny SOB.

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I wanted him and Brad on BA

https://i.redd.it/qhchdnakmoi41.jpg

A place where no one follows him, he works alone..oh yeah...

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The Ascension out there violating their 90 day no compete clause which isn't supposed to be over till 3/7

Forgot they existed and forgot they got released.

WWE probably the same.

What’s shocking is that they’re still choosing to team together.

Unless they genuinely disliked each other.... why wouldn't they?

A chance to start afresh and get away from a dead gimmick.

'Member when they had that "cool epic music" in NXT?

IT WILL RISE AGAIN!!!

(OR probably they realize they can make more $ and are more "marketable" as a "name" together than apart)

Eh, I know that's the thing about former WWE wrestlers on the indy scene...but it's the fucking Ascension.

They'll be TNA Tag Champs soon.

"We were born and bred! To rip and shred!" - The Ascension


One of the greatest lines ever in the history of our sport

In retrospect, it's very funny how Triple H presented them as a legit bad-ass tag team, but Vince took one laugh at them and made them a bunch of comedy try-hards.

They were up there for ages. About five years. They spent more active time with WWE than Eddie Guerrero did.

Konnor got to eliminate DDP from an Andre Battle Royal too. I'm convinced that Konnor let Page fuck his wife.

The APA dressing them down in the middle of the ring completely killed them

Yet it made Heath Slater. That's because Heath Slater is a once in a generation talent.

Should have been US/IC champ

Fairly sure guys can take bookings immediately, they just can’t work anything televised or on PPV.

NXT debuted 10 years ago today

Eh, they were really hokey in the role. They were pretty terrible.

I was just thinking that it's been ten years of Heath Slater in WWE, baby! Who would have thought that out of everyone in that field, other than Daniel Bryan, Heath Slater would have had the longest stint with WWE? Me, but people would have said I was crazy.

We're coming up to ten for Curtis Axel too. He may close in on the time his dad spent up there.

Want to see Shelton Benjamin & Curtis Axel form a tag team for some reason. Also want to see Heath Slater vs. Shinsuke Nakamura.

Shinsuke Nakamura's recent IC Title reign lasted for 201 days. You have to go back nine years to Cody Rhodes to get someone that held it longer. I wish WWE would still make a deal out of stuff like this. It matters to young fans that are trying to connect to the guys in front of them. Stuff like that used to work on me when JR would talk about how long Randy Orton and Shelton Benjamin had held the belt, long after it was dead.

Completely forgot/didn't know that Daniel Bryan & Rowan and Braun Strowman & Seth Rollins were Tag Team Champions.

Closest dudes to a real Grand Slam in WWE are:

* Daniel Bryan, who only has to win the Universal Title.

* Randy Orton, who only has to win the Universal Title.

* Jeff Hardy, who only has to win the Universal Title.

* Seth Rollins, who only has to win the SmackDown Tag Title.

* Kofi Kingston, who only has to win the Universal Title.

* The Miz, who only has to win the Universal Title.

* Heath Slater, who only has to win the IC, US, WWE and Universal Title.

It would be something if Bryan, Orton, Hardy, Rollins, Kingston and Miz all ended up on the same show as the Universal Title and were all chasing it to become the first guy to have ever won every single active belt in modern WWE.

Kind of slipped my mind that after the last Saudi show is when WWE had the NXT guys on standby to fill the show when they were stranded. Given how close Super Showdown and SmackDown are to each other, it wouldn't be the worst idea in the world to have more NXT talent on hand to help freshen up SmackDown and promote NXT, even if there isn't anything holding up the SmackDown guys.

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Fingers crossed for a Funaki Hall Of Fame induction. Have y’all seen his cruiserweight match from the Armageddon PPV? Makes Ibushi - Alexander look like amateurs.

It’s a shame that WWE refuses to acknowledge the Intercontinental title reigns of one Val Venis. Chief Morley turning on Eric Bischoff and defeating Triple H at WM XIX for the World’s Heavyweight title would’ve been ten folds better than Punk winning the WWE title at Money in the Bank or Kingston being given the participation championship trophy at last year’s abomination of a WrestleMania because WWE sucks and I hope Vince gets cancer of the ass.

Would make for an interesting mini title tournament if the Universal Title is ever vacated for some reason. Maybe 2 triple threat matches and then a 1v1 for the title, or 3 1v1's and a triple threat final. Either or.

Why is Guru Dave so obsessed with me? Is it because I called him out for being creepy or because I called him out on crying racism to try and shame people? Flip a coin?

I highly recommend listening to this week's Between The Sheets podcast that looks at Feb 5-18th 1984.

the David Von Erich stuff is so good to get an insight to how his death impacted that area.

grown men had tears in their eyes. girls were crying in their boyfriend's arms.

you really get a sense just how beloved they were. truly hometown heroes.

Don't I make you feel special, sunshine.

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Not at all. So many posters end up obsessed with me that I even need to block some. I certainly didn’t notice, but I’m surprised anyone did when you changed your user name. What do you even bring to the table when it comes to discussion?

I know my taste in wrestling isn't as fancy as yours. I can't appreciate the in-ring prowess of Dough Basham or the incredible Cruiserweight Championship reign of Funaki. For a simpleton like me, Sunday Night Heat was all about Maven. That's right, as far as I am concerned he eclipsed Val Venis in a heartbeat. Venis was a joke. Maven - Mr. Sunday Night Heat for life.

What do you think you are accomplishing? Don't you have anything contemporary?

And while we're at it, Essa Rios' booger had more charisma and in-ring acumen when compared to Val Venis.

Val Venis is a piece of shit human. I enjoyed his Heat work about a decade and a half ago because it was the closest thing to an "other" easily available to me. I've since changed a lot. Again, do you have anything contemporary or do you have to go back 15 years for a low-impact jab because you're that fucking desperate and cunty?

You belong in the trash with Sean Morley, honestly.

Remember when you got a boner because Funaki showed up on screen at the 2020 Royal Rumble PPV just like every other PPV in the past four years but since you don't follow the product regularly, you had no clue and got all excited?