How small is his head?!

He's like a reverse dwarf, huge body with a tiny wee head.

It's like if Brundle had been genetically spliced with a toddler instead of a fly

Apparently Teddy Hart made some threats towards MLW that could have resulted in cops getting involved.

After he got released, he threatened to show up at MLW's Opera Cup event last week but the tone of his threat was enough for MLW to threaten legal action against him if he did.

Also Meltzer reported in this week's Newsletter that more signs point to Marty Scurll not signing a new deal with ROH and signing with AEW instead.

According to the Observer Newsletter, NXT is losing their over-run advantage over AEW starting next month and could potentially be permanent after the next season of Miz & Mrs ends.

For some reference, NXT usually averages between 150k-200k for the over-run and is usually worth an extra several thousand viewers for the overall average. Only really hurts them in the 50+ demo since that usually is the bulk of those viewers.

Based on some recent data crunching, WWE is currently estimated to finally break even from their lost PPV revenues caused by the WWE Network by 2025.

The numbers don't factor in other revenue areas like digital fees and tv related rights that would sway the estimates and just focuses on the impact the Network had on WWE's old PPV market.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The estimate referenced on WOR when I said the WWE Network hasn't yet recovered the opportunity cost of foregoing PPV for SVOD, as of Aug 2019. <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@davemeltzerWON</a> wrote about this in the latest WON. Actually years away. <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wrestlenomics</a><br><br>Check math here: <a href="https://t.co/vPMcJaAPPI">https://t.co/vPMcJaAPPI</a> <a href="https://t.co/vVbW4SfYs9">pic.twitter.com/vVbW4SfYs9</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1204457749419110401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2025 by this estimate, again not counting TV rights effects, digital PPV and home video. See the wide green area of the screenshot.</p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1204460754667266048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Bought this Bulldogs t shirt off Pro Wrestling Tees to add to my vast collection

https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/pub...ldog1015_1.png

Nice purchase

R.I.P Moondog Rex.

The Moondogs were an awesome tag team.

Welll he showed up at the end of NWAs ppv so he's not going straight to AEW. Seems like there's at least going to be a feud with Aldis

Probably the secret promotion Meltzer mentioned in the Newsletter since it would fit in regards to his indies booking being at a place ROH wouldn't approve if he was signed.

NWA did cut all ties with ROH several months ago due to some money and/or streaming related issues with ROH's Honor Club service I believe.

marty can do nwa till broody lee is cleared from his 90 day and go in togather to aew.

It's going to feud in my closet with my Dream Team shirt.

Man, that joke just made me really sad.

Just read that they are taping two episodes of RAW today and thought "oh... all those poor people"

Thought for sure this is a Guru Dave post.

God, SmackDown looks gorgeous. I know it’s not a good show, but it looks amazing.

Had no clue Nakamura got a new belt.

Sad thjing is, the shit WWE does nowadays, this might have been planned.

I completely forgot that this happened.

"Hey Scott... I fell!!!"

No, the sad thing is that WWE would be very likely to try to force this as a thing instead of a one-off accidental goof.

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Now do one where he turns into Luchasaurus

Dude can't even type his own name right.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On this day last year (12/17/18), the McMahon family stood in the ring and explained that things were going to change. <br><br>That night the RAW overall viewership averaged 2.55M up from the week prior's record-low 2.19M. <br><br>Last night, RAW averaged 2.05M. <a href="https://t.co/Hh46CAEYfz">https://t.co/Hh46CAEYfz</a></p>&mdash; Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1207058215210541057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nathan Jones is playing Shao Kahn in the new Mortal Kombat movie

I hope he does a comedy Asian accent then

That's a pretty big role for the dude.

Wasn't he in Mad Max: Fury Road? He's appeared in Indian movies as well.

He was also in Troy, The Condemned and I think Ong Bak. He beats up an elephant in it.

Alexa :yes:

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Happy Midweek.

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Tracy Smothers has lymphoma :(

That's Shang Tsung. :p

Even so, a comical Oriental voice on a hulking great beast of a white bloke is just what MK needs.

Fuck!

May he kick Cancer's ass like it is a bear.

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Forgot how generic the early lead commentator of NXT was compared to Mauro.

Except for Mauro, all of WWE's commentators have almost the exact same style of delivery for calls and big moments. The Micheal Cole branch of commentary really is the worst when it comes to making big moments feel special and genuine.

They muted Ambrose’s name. Typical.

So they mute his wwe character name but keep him in the video....wut? :wtf: Might have made sense had he been using his real name but he wasn't.

Impact finally released Killer Kross.

Someone on r/SquaredCircle compiled a list of the Top 100 wrestlers of the decade using Pro Wrestling Illustrated's yearly Top 500 rankings as the basis.

To show how busted and heavily pro-WWE leaning PWI's lists are, The Miz ended up being ranked as the 7th best wrestler of this decade.

AJ Styles took the top spot while Daniel Bryan took #17 despite missing 2016, 2017, and a chunk of 2018 due to concussions issues.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc..._according_to/

Somebody needs to do that for the 90's

He did do it for the 90s, please read his posts

That list clearly isn't for the 90's so either link it up or shut your hole

He linked to it in his post:

https://old.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc..._according_to/

#2 of the 90s def correct

What an eventful NXT show. Props to that one wrestler who won.

Not a pretty list.

Jeff Jarrett at #12. :lol:

"Smashed a thousand guitars and never drew a dime" ~ Kevin Nash, I think.

Mike Graham.

I'd be more concerned by an obese useless degenerate like Abdullah being on that list.

Pretty outrageous.

Roman Reigns is wrestling a match during the Steve Harvey new Year's Eve special

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW commercial that aired before Lakers x Bucks. <a href="https://t.co/bV4ilHNu5e">pic.twitter.com/bV4ilHNu5e</a></p>&mdash; Italo Santana (@BulletClubIta) <a href="https://twitter.com/BulletClubIta/status/1207828763704283136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That was kinda neat.

Reportedly this was planned, and the company is transitioning The Revival into a comedy team spoof of the Fabulous Ones.

The idea being to try to kill their image before their contracts are up and likely head to AEW for the years-long rumored Bucks feud.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Still not and still not. Period.</p>&mdash; Adam (Edge) Copeland (@EdgeRatedR) <a href="https://twitter.com/EdgeRatedR/status/1208022132577452033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Yep, him and Punk are coming back as a tag team.

A Fabs spoof complete with music video would be amazing.

Was chatting w a source who told me two matches WWE is considering for WM 36....


Tyson Fury vs. Brock Lesnar

Rey / Dominick / Cain Velasquez vs. Seth /AOP

ugh:nono:

Gotta do something with the vanilla midgets

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Orange Cassidy might be one of the silliest things in wrestling, but whether you love it or hate it, you can’t deny he’s over as hell. <br><br>LlSTEN TO THIS CROWD ���� <a href="https://t.co/IaupR0cnTi">pic.twitter.com/IaupR0cnTi</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1207367633793740801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It pays to have a good lawyer.... USSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not guilty.

https://weartv.com/news/local/wwe-su...CnxA30P5Es8Ers

Apparently some sales numbers for the WWE 2K series were recently revealed as part of an on-going lawsuit involving copyright infringement claims regarding Randy Orton's tattoos in the games.

WWE 2K16, 2K17, and 2K18 averaged around 3.38 million copies sold while 2K20 is currently well below that pace.

So does WWE make its money from everything other than actual wrestling at this point?

Pretty much. TV deals and other rights deals have been carrying the company financially for a long while now.

Take out both and WWE probably is a lot closer to death of WCW range or upper indies range like NXT but without WWE's money subsidizing it.

The guy that did Orton's tattoos is going to ruin wrestlers getting tattoos. Vince ain't going to pay every tattoo artist that tattoos wrestlers

The tattoo guy also wasn't thinking big enough..he should be asking for a cut of ppv sales and network money

WWE have to go back and blur up Orton on the network like the wwf logo

Randomly wondered onto an ROH show. Its Dinastia Munoz (RUSH & Dragon Lee) vs the Briscoes in a 60 man Iron Man match. Really excellent last 5 minutes.

Have this vague memory of Ashley Massaro managing Londrick during their reign as WWE Tag Team Champions and the trio making their entrance to her music. This is closest thing I've been able to find.


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I miss titantrons

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Droford, shutup

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:wtf:

That's what happens when you learn flips instead of fundamentals

Lol could you imagine that happening in Mid-South with Bill Watts

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When Ric Flair debuted Meltzer said people said Flair was ruining the bizness bc they were used to the boring stuff like headlocks and hammerlocks and thought Flair's wrestling style was 'over the top/cartoonish'.

Now Flair is the gold standard for many. Wouldn't surprise me if Ricochet and others who flip/kick often are not the gold standard in the future for many.

#Bless the Sammy G

I picture Orange Cassidy lasting 2 weeks in Mid-South. One week being his in ring funeral. Buzz Sawyer would eat him alive.

David Bixenspan going hard after PWInsider after they once again joined in on the WWE dog pile against AEW and also for some recent digs they made towards Ryan Satin.

PWI in recent times have really become the Vince McMahon and/or WWE of wrestling journalism in terms of their pettiness and spitfulnessl towards others for even the smallest issues.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">By the way, to be clear:<br><br>There’s a massive, massive distinction between someone having concerns about the implications of Ryan Satin’s Fox Sports/WWE Backstage job and taking massive cheap shots saying that the guy probably needs the money.<br><br>But it’s Dave Scherer, so…yeah.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1208529358777962497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also, for the two guys who served as the faces of possibly the most ethically compromised wrestling news sites ever to exist to be the ones going so hard on this…glass houses etc etc.</p>&mdash; David Bixenspan (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1208530870732304387?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Like when Meltzer is petty towards someone its either due to him arguing over some of the dumbest things possible or being goated by trolls to start arguments.

Satin can be pretty bad at times as well with stuff like that and even Fightful's Sapp but none of them compare to PWI's growing pettiness during the past year or two. Only reason PWI gets less backlash for their antics is due to them not really doing it on social media and instead mostly on their pay shows and terribly designed website.

Buzz Sawyer was also a piece of dog shit and not really someone that should be a shining example of anything. I’ll take orange Cassidy over that fucking crook any day of the week.

The "we both banged Lita and Beth Phoenix bros".

Viking Raiders better watch out!

Good rasslin in Mid South.

Real bad sexual politics though...

You are not wrong. He would eat him alive BECAUSE he's a piece of dogshit. I just didn't want to put him at a Butch Reed level.

Finally got my 9th row WrestleMania tickets in the mail. Anybody else going? Maybe I'll make a thread later after I'm done Christmas shopping to put up all the WrestleMania weekend info on.

This just got posted on YouTube and holy fuck! I had no idea this was even a thing. Two of the bigger themes of the decade came from this. So cool!

I honestly have no clue how that malware kingdom of a website is still even around at this point. I know Mike Johnson is good @ WWE scoops, though I get a kick out of him taking credit for all of them (I've never heard of him crediting Meltzer, Satin, Sapp, anyone else).


There's no way PWIinsider's base is anything but the plus 50 crowd who dominates WWE ratings.

Supposedly the lack of sourcing is due to PWI viewing themselves as being above dirtsheet reporters and also being very stubborn when it comes to reporting news they can't break first. Also some real jealously and resentment towards the Observer and Meltzer that has gotten a lot worse over the past year or two.

Also wouldn't be surprised if they don't really have that many insider sources that are wrestler or Creative-based outside whatever WWE approves. The Saudi travel issue might have exposed that problem since they hesitated on reporting details and when they did, it was mostly just WWE's PR stance while also blaming wrestlers for "spreading rumors" which was Corey Graves stance on his podcast show.

Even bigger than getting his ass kicked by Michael Jai White in a movie. One of those Never Back Down flicks, I think. Or that other one where he got beat up by Donnie Yen. *

Pretty big step up from some Korean movie where he's a gentile giant, but suddenly can kick copious amounts of ass when he eats spicy food.


*Correction: It was Jet Li. I wasn't being racist, I thought I was thinking of a scene from one of the Ip Man movies, and I was thinking of Fearless. A quick minute of internet sleuthing cleared that up. Also, Nathan''s been in more movies than I thought. Good for him.

Which makes even less sense considering they dropped him into the name generator specifically so they can use the name Dean Ambrose with impunity. Why did they even bother?

Eh. Your revelation actually makes that worse.

And hilarously, they could scrub themselves clean with a trip to NWA or Japan. In fact, Japan with Mox would be a fantasy that lends credence to the assertion of the New Japan video package that insinuates that "Death Riders" being an actual group Moxley is a part of. And you add in his Japanese son to the mix, and you have... well, I was going to say four horsemen, but not in the trademarked throw your fingers up way, but in the "behold a pale rider..." way.

That would make them "weiner cousins" (thanks, Todd n Tyler), and they should be referred to as kayfabe cousins as such... much like the three Hollys.

Wouldn't really be able to make that into a team name, though. Well, not one they could use. Then again, WWE did try to start a women's stable called "Submission Sorority" without doing like 30 seconds of investigation as to why that would be a very, very bad idea.

Personally, I wasn't a huge fan of "Grab Them Cakes". I was one of those that was wondering what happened to him coming out to "Another One Bites The Dust". I was way too young to understand copyrights and whatnot back then.

I agree. Another One Bites The Dust was WAY better.

Grab Them Cakes made him too cartoony

The Eskimo Bros

Reminiscing some of Vince McMahon's terrible decisions from 2019. From announcing the Wild Card rule and immediately breaking the rules within the next hour of the show to the "no wrestling during commercials" shtick which led to a few weeks of "2-out-of-3" falls matches. Completely butchering Ambrose's heel turn from last year, stunting Seth Rollins' progress as a baby face champion and unnecessarily shoving Wyatt into the Universal title picture. It's also sad that Drew McIntyre hasn't won a major championship since the NXT world title.

Drew is sadly a perfect example of time and place not jiving. When he first got hired, Vince pushed him until he got bored. Then, he was left to languish. He became comedic jobber fodder. He got released. He was reborn in the fire of the indies... which made WWE come a-callin' again. Looked like he was getting a rocket up his ass. Now, he's just part of the toy collection.

Kinda wish he were on his release resurgence like now. It was fine when he was helping the European wrestling renaissance, but now? The man could be a hot ticket item for AEW or NJPW or NWA. Hell, I honestly even could see him as someone who could honestly be a helpful piece of the RoH roster to slow their apparent crumbling. Instead, WWE does what WWE does, and takes any interest and excitement and momentum built either by outside circumstance or even A PUSH THEY THEMSELVES START and just let the guy become background again in short order.