You're an idiot. And a bitch.

I've missed our banter, Dale. Remind me how homoerotic wrasslin' is?

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Why was Vince McMahon talking like this?

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Seen that clip several times before but only just noticed now that Vince sort of looks like the game show host from The Running Man.

From what I’ve read, this was during the downward spiral of his character which eventually led to the infamous limo explosion.

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I wish I kept the "Four Hour Work Year" one for handy reference. I figured it would be easy to find online. Mostly run into the Zoobooks, Dr. Seuss, or "Brockception" anytime I search.

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How cheesy do those lights look that they put on the ring apron.:lol:

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I guess AJ is getting drafted to SD

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Friday nights are about to get phenomenal.<a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> Friday Night SmackDown premieres in ONE week on FOX. <a href="https://t.co/IOkjcqkkqj">pic.twitter.com/IOkjcqkkqj</a></p>&mdash; WWE on FOX (@WWEonFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1177613870648553472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's where he belongs.

Gallows & Anderson better be going with him.

According to the Observer, FOX is likely going to lose a ton of money on their tv deal with WWE in regards to ad money. Smackdown currently is generating about half of what a regular tv show on the network averages and in order for it to be a success, it pretty much needs to double its viewership in the 18-34 demo.

USA Network is in a similar situation with their new tv deal. They did manage to make money last year off of ads but that was with them having two shows and a less expensive tv deal.

Seth Rollins deleted his Twitter account

What was fox getting last year for Last Man Standing and Cool kids. Probably not a lot

It would be very weird seeing CM Punk do the FS1 show with Renee Young.

He pissed off the Sasha fanboys, probably for the best

Probably for the best since he's been a bit of a dumbass in recent times on social media. Him and Graves are arguably the worst in WWE when it comes to not acting like a fool on it.

Only advantage Rollins had over Graves was at least he didn't whine over a mistake/botch of his being a candidate for a Botchamania episode.

Graves has a sense of humor about himself on Twitter often.

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Was looking for that Vidya of CM Punk/Dr. Horrible but seems to have vanished....

@LockJaw Were you looking for this video?

https://www.wwe.com/amp/videos/cm-pu...mpression=true

No. Please read my posts.


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This one didn't age well as to the people in it...

Some people...

P.S. I needed an excuse to post that glorious video. Bet you haven't even seen it.

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Sweatiest non-wrestling segment in wwe ever?

Apparently the aircon was broken in the building and it was like a sauna.

Dragon Lee and Rush are gone from CMLL.

Supposedly it all revolves around two issues.

Rush and other younger talent were pissed that the company started cutting their paychecks but refused to do the same to older talent. According to Lucha Blog, there were rumblings Rush wanted out of the company as a result.

Lucha Blog also stated that Lee got punished for working this year's Battle of LA tournament but CMLL didn't have any real plans to release him. They ended up doing so due to his association with Rush and likely to one-up them on the big announcement they were making this Monday.

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:lol:

Not that anybody asked or gives a shit... but I personally still don't see it. Maybe I will in time, but at the moment, nah.

With that said, I can't deny how fucking over he is and has been in NXT, and should be pushed accordingly. He is like the complete opposite of Corbin (who was exposed and turned on by the crowd after the first few squash matches), has the crowd eating out of his hand in a way similar to "raise/lower volume" thing Mark Henry used to do, and is pretty athletic (maybe a bit too much so - for both sake of big man psychology and the toll of moving all that around like that consistently over time can and will have on his body) and is another guy who seems like he should be hitting pretty much every box down the Vince checklist.

So long as he doesn't become "The Keith Experience" or saddled with something on par with the Mike Kanelis nonsense on the main roster or worst of all, just being left off of TV entirely for months at a time, there is no reason fan shouldn't be proven right about him being a star waiting to be made.

Apparently CMLL's partnership with ROH and NJPW could be over soon. The Rush/Lee situation seems to have been the tipping point.

ROH has been upset with CMLL for a while due to their restrictions and streaming issues for shows which has affected ROH by association. They also would be willing to end the CMLL relationship if RUSH's ROH title reign ends up being a big success and CMLL tries to cause problems with it.

NJPW also has some unfavorable views of CMLL and have no problem ending the relationship if it meant getting to keep Dragon Lee and not have to deal with any headaches from CMLL. NJPW is willing to keep the relationship active till at least next January for the Fantasticamania 2020 tour but also have no problems with dropping it either.

Then you have other issues going on like a potential mass exodus of young talent happening soon in CMLL and Rev Pro might also consider ending their ties with CMLL if CMLL causes any problems with their British J-Cup plans.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc..._lucha_on_the/

If only there were some sort of wrestling alliance...

maybe nationwide too?

What makes this really interesting is that CMLL owns the rights to Los Ingobernables, do they not? So this would adversely affect Naito and company.

...or, at least of the Americas, yes.

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Believe so.

They also own the rights to the Rush and Dragon Lee names which is why Rush is now being advertised as El Toro Blanco for events in Mexico.

Killian is a lucky man. Nikki is an absolute delight.

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RIP Fake Razor.

Ah shit, not Bogner. Surprisingly young and unexpected. Never good.

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Those early tombstones were....err..interesting. One hand holding the opponent the other pushing their head into his crotch. :wtf:

Not to mention quite a few seemed botched and they really did get their heads drilled, koko b ware one is a good example of that.

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Surprised this segment at one point didn't turn into a fight between show and rodimer, you can see rodimer intentionally sandbagging the slam but he got heaved up for it anyway, seemed like there was something going on between those 2.

Also the reason Nick Mitchell in this gets a slap is because wwe (as usual) edited something out. Mitchell initially took a slam and no sold it by popping right back up and walked upto big show, hence the slap and another harder slam which he stayed down on. That's also why you see show looking over at Snow like he's asking if this moron knows what he's doing.

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According to Fightful, Rush is staying in ROH for at least another year. His current contract didn't expire until early next year but with the CMLL issues, seems he decided to get a new deal done sooner than later.

Also Matt Taven's new contract with ROH ended up being somewhere between 2x to 3x more than what the top stars in NXT earn ($100k range).

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Am I the only one who sees this picture and thinks Roman Reigns is about to catch two baseball bats to the head? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FridayNightSmackdown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FridayNightSmackdown</a> <a href="https://t.co/8XdImKnJlP">pic.twitter.com/8XdImKnJlP</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard of ProSportsExtra.com (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1178443971380555776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Could be wrong but looks like he’s trying to make sure the dudes head is extra tucked to make sure that he doesn’t actually spike him. But agreed, a few of those...holy shit lmao

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looks like a good indicator Miz (who hosted the SD special Friday), Bray and Sasha will also be on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Smackdown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Smackdown</a> when it moves to FOX <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/bUcTaJRwWe">pic.twitter.com/bUcTaJRwWe</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1178530007347601408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They added a camera shake <a href="https://t.co/Vi25zeIZZU">https://t.co/Vi25zeIZZU</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp, Fightful.com TALL OF FAMER (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1178310389123211264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I know what Byron Saxton is doing tonight.

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Punk apparently working with wwe to some degree.

Smackdown is starting at 730 Friday with a kickoff show. I can see them saying fuck the local channels showing whatever syndicated rerun sitcoms at 7 to give it 3 hours eventually if ratings are good enough

The backstage show on FS1 supposedly but in reality that's working for FOX not WWE

Yeah.... there is a Smackdown "pre-show" here in Canada by Rogers that has Santino Marella on it..... but Santino is working for Rogers, not WWE

Saying that, hearing CM Punk try to talk positively would be weird.

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Add in ROH on Sundays I think, NWA on Tuesdays (via Youtube), AAA on Fridays (via Twitch), and MLW on Saturdays and that covers all the notable promotions that will now air weekly stuff in the US.

CM Punk will be back. He’s dropped the public feelers. Vince and Hunter will come a-courting.

No doubt. It's war season. WWE has won every war they've ever been in, basically. They will bring out the big guns to slap down AEW and Impact (lol jk). I would love to see Punk back at the end of the draft on Raw, being drafted to Smackdown. Would be a good lead in for the 3rd week. But instead of getting to speak he is interrupted by THE BEST IN THE WORLD... and yeah need I say more?

Chelsea Green is trying out commentary at NXT. Usually when they promote that stuff online it becomes a thing. Kind of sucks because I thought she was really good in the ring and oh so fine.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">i like it <a href="https://t.co/blAf04eBOH">https://t.co/blAf04eBOH</a></p>&mdash; Bryan Rose (@br26) <a href="https://twitter.com/br26/status/1178797179806220288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is pretty cool!

very pretty.

Over the last couple of years I've been so disinterested in WWE because they have such shit consistency. Obviously I'm a sucker and I won't "give up" on them, so here we go again down another "era" of sorts. But this is actually a new era. There is the competition and then so many alternatives. I'm currently catching ROH every week and really enjoying it. I also anticipate watching Impact when I can, as well as NWA Power... It's just so much! I want to watch MLW as well but honestly I think I may be done with it. It's fun to watch when they go to Queens but I haven't kept up with the TV since WM season because I got tired of watching myself in the front row for like 4 weeks straight lol.

Honestly NJPW really needs to get their shit in gear. I have subscribed and canceled New Japan World because the only use for me is a live programming. The catalog is not English friendly at all. They should really make an effort to employ a team of English or Americans to make New Japan World an app worth buying.

I wonder what will happen with NJPW and AXS. I think the deal is up in February next year. Have the made enough of a brand for themselves to land on another worth while network? Will Anthem want to keep NJPW where they are? So much going on in the undercurrent of the WWE changes and AEW boom.

I tell you ROH is putting on a good show every week. It's really easy to watch and the wrestling is usually just as good as NXT. And the production is nearly equal to it as well. It has a great vibe to it. They have more "stars" than you'd think when you see them all out there on a show. Rush, Bandido, Taven, Lethal, Briscoes, Shelly, Haskins, PJ Black, Castle, PCO, King, and Scurll. It's like they are missing that one hot talker like they had with Punk. I really don't know who they can find to fill the void but I have faith that they can rise through.

The beauty of ROH is that they can survive this period of low attendance because that hasn't been the main source of income for the company since the very early days. ROH has always made money from the DVD's and merch, now the Honor Club and TV deals and an owner with deep pockets.

Probably getting dropped from the network if the recent layoffs and comments from Anthem's boss are any indication.

In regards to where they would go next, all depends on who would actually be interested since the tv market for wrestling is still pretty weak overall unless your WWE or get really lucky like AEW did with TNT.

Oh you know what wold be a solution? Hey ROH ol buddy ol pal, remember how we helped you fill out The Garden ... ahem, yeah we need you to talk to Sinclair cause ..."

It would be possible you'd think. NJPW on the same channels ROH is on would be a strong move and also we could get more NJPW guys in ROH which would be huge for them right now.

I think New Japan will end up somewhere else. It depends who they are in bed with when that deal is up. I can see them on a Turner station if they’re with AEW, for example. Showtime and Viceland may be interested. They could end up on a streaming service.

My crystal ball tells me that they are too salty with AEW and the overall product is just too goofy. Even if the deal with ROH runs its course and CMLL are out, I think they are more likely to work with NXT and Triple H. It’s just way more their style. They can finish up Jericho and Moxley at the Dome shows, officially end things with their previous partners, then move into something with NXT. It wouldn’t shock me to see the currently formatted AXS show to end up on the WWE Network or on an NBC Universal channel.

Wonder what happens to WOW? I need my dumb gimmick women's wrestling

Lol Fox news has a wrestling ring set up outside and a couple hundred people around it but they tried to do a fire extinguisher demo for national fire prevention month and all the wrestling fans over to the side were changing "burn it down"

The fox news people kept saying WWF interviewing Stephanie she replied "I'm not allowed to say WWF, we lost the lawsuit to World Wildlife Fund"

But..she said WWF

According to the Observer, Brock's destruction of Rey and Dominick wasn't meant to be the start of a feud or anything between them but instead just them already starting the build to a potential Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez match.

Velasquez hasn't signed a deal with WWE but the company feels very confident he will do so soon.

Seems like it would be "ridiculous" for Rey to just "not want revenge". So I guess he'll just come back and be fine with it.

It's weird seeing Impact on AXStv already even if it is 9 months old

It's kind of a cheap shot @WWE they're doing the hype for Bound For Glory in front of the. Staples Center

Lol the infamous part of the Eli Drake/Abyss monster's ball match where Abyss held his hands together for like a minute for no reason while Elibtried to zip tie his hands together lol. Jesus

Lucha Bros vs LAX from Homecoming on now. Feels like it's promoting AEW

Also can't imagine Rhyno and RVD tagging in 2019 at BFG

Was really sad how they used Eli Drake towards the end. The Abyss match had to be a breaking point.

Are they already showing Impact stuff on AXS TV? Probably need to update my DVR.

The NWA tapings had some familiar faces show up:

Wow they got some ringers

World titles recognized by PWI

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The moron that made that clearly wasn't interested in creating a serviceable graph at all.
I can see three things wrong with it straight away.

What's wong with the graph, Seanny?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brock. SETTLE. <a href="https://t.co/TKF0AOFtZs">pic.twitter.com/TKF0AOFtZs</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@tde_wrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/tde_wrestling/status/1178824981402259456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The belt icons are a terrible choice for a graph, the years should be directly aligned to the icon and the WWE belts should be grouped together instead of all over the place.

It's the work of a dickhead.

Grouping the WWE titles wouldn't make sense since the WWE Championship has been around since the '60s whereas the World Heavyweight and Universal Championships have been around since the '00s and '10s respectively.

I do agree that graph is barely serviceable. I could probably make a better one in one afternoon.

From Wikipedia,

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Ladies and gentleman, Guru Dave's doppleganger

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fun fact that I like bringing up time to time. The current Raw Tag Team Titles are technically the original Smackdown Tag Team Titles from the original split as far as lineage goes.</p>&mdash; Durag Drake Maverick (@might_be_a_mark) <a href="https://twitter.com/might_be_a_mark/status/1179185464550608896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Slicky, I will fly over to Framingham and spear you out of nowhere during trivia night.

Yikes. WWE and E!'s plan of adding Ronda Rousey mainstream star power to Total Divas in hopes it would boost the series sluggish ratings ended up backfiring big time.

Making things worse was the show got moved to Tuesdays out of fear that it would get hammered by the upcoming Wednesday Night War and to also take advantage of the Tuesday night spot left open by Smackdown's departure.

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Looking forward to this

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What?

The list should go NWA, AWA, WCW, ECW, TNT then all of the WWE related titles. There is no reason to spread the WWE titles amongst the others when the purpose of a graph is to present information in an easy to understand way.

Did you make the graph?!

Nope. But the titles are listed with respect to their creation.

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Wow, Sugar Ray Long got a little mouthy, there.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dragon Lee said he has already been contacted by several wrestling promotions. He also talked about wrestlers from NJPW, ROH and even Andrade from WWE. <br><br>He said he will have a big surprise soon.</p>&mdash; Fredo Esparza (@therealfredo) <a href="https://twitter.com/therealfredo/status/1179579882600157184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If its purely based on money, WWE wins in a heartbeat otherwise NJPW makes the most sense in terms of fit and handling.

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Dragon Lee to NXT.