Yes and its mainly due to them stretching things out longer than it should have been because they can't make up their minds or stick to plans. They waited too long to start the feud and didn't want Bryan vs Reigns for SummerSlam. Then they decided to not have Bryan vs Reigns be at Clash which meant having to stretch out the big reveal for at least an extra month while doing a poor job with the swerves.

Whatever was meant to be the original follow up to the Rowan look-a-like reveal pretty much got tossed when Vince rewrite the script the following week.

Since it's now the 40th anniversary of the Intercontinental Championship

Do they talk about the early IC champs, or is it mostly newer stuff.

This wouldn't have been an issue if any of the attacks actually, you know, put Reigns out of action. As in off TV for a couple of weeks. But that didn't happen. He didn't miss one day of TV time despite the heinous actions of the attacks.

Is Bryan a heel now?

Whole storyline got off to a bad start when Reigns simply shrugged off the initial attack and the episode ended with him walking away.

Was either John Pollock or someone else who mentioned the storyline really comes off as something being written week to week and not something that was planned out ahead of time. Like no real build up to Rowan snapping or his doppelgänger being just a swerve.

Ronda Rousey might be completely done with wrestling since WWE recently moved her profile to the "Alumni" section.

They only do that for wrestlers who got released or retired.

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I assumed it was botched horribly on day 1 when Roman no sold the scaffolding

He's been a hero for awhile

They do, but they also go quite a bit off topic, and Randy gets muted a lot because he's swearing so much. :lol:

I have this weird feeling that FOX wants Bryan and Charlotte to be babyfaces. Most people seem to think that Bryan is going to be behind the Rowan/Roman stuff, but I think the bigger twist would be Bryan not being behind it.

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I think you are correct

I actually would not mind a Bryan turn, since people love him and he’s so good at it. I get that people admire his work as a heel, but the natural thing is for him to be endearing.

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Pity Sid never got a final run with wwe, that leg injury really sidelined him for far too long for any kind of a comeback, career pretty much ended in 2001.

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3:03 that had to hurt.

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In 1979, Pat Patterson beat off 15 guys in a "tournament" in Rio de Janeiro

Vince is George Costanza and Shawn is Elaine's former Mimbo boyfriend Tony.

https://i.gifer.com/4B87.gif

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He looks like an entirely different person. How long has his name been “Rusevig.” Could that be him getting ready to trademark something outside of WWE? Miroslav Barnyashev, or whatever his name is, doesn’t really roll off the tongue of western audiences.

Hey guys remember when Rusev got really over twice and WWE stepped on him twice?

Think the “IG” is for Instagram. Maybe just “Rusev” was taken?

Probably. The RusevBul name he uses on Twitter also seems to have been taken by someone else on Instagram.

Rusev's tank entrance still has to be one of my favourite Rasslemania entrances of all time, if only for the badass Russian national anthem

For as bad as ROH has been this year and people wanting NJPW to sever all ties with them, they have nothing on RevPro who have become a PR disaster within the past week.

RevPro is currently dealing with growing backlash following an incident at their recent Summer Sizzler event. A wrestler legit beat up a ref after the finals of their tag tournament match due to it ending in a botched pin. Instead of handling the problem right away, RevPro tried to sweep it under the rug only for that plan to backfire badly.

Then RevPro got called out for lying about what happened despite videos debunking their claims. Also still seem to be unwilling to help the ref who's career and soccer ref career is now in serious doubt due to the injuries he suffered.

To make things even worse, once RevPro managed to actually fire the wrestler repoinsible for the mess, the wrestler posted DMs from the owner/booker showing that he knew all along about what really happened and was pissed at the ref for going public. Also showed that the apology given was insincere.

That just sounds awful and ten times worse than the fan / Bully incident.

WWE can't make up their mind on Kofi

https://static.wrestletalk.com/app/u.../07/Kofi-1.jpg

Best one I've seen.

... In a row?!?

Apparently he quit pro wrestling

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Watching an episode of 1992 Superstars. They announced Savage / Warrior for SummerSlam, now have them going face to face and Ric Flair comes out. So crazy.

and that time was a huge downturn for the business, which is mindblowing.

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Flair cut a promo on Warrior telling him that Savage was trying to get Mr. Perfect to manage him at SummerSlam, so now Savage and Warrior don't trust each other and are cutting increasingly paranoid coke fueled promos on each other.

1990-92 WWF is a complete blur. I've seen so little of it just mainly because it's really bad. Everyone is too juiced up, Hogan is unbearable and everyone had overstayed their welcome. The territories were dead so it was the same tired, old faces. I actually like 93 WWF more than 90-92 just because it was different.

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According to PWI, two NXT wrestlers are currently rumored to be making their main roster debut at tonight's 205 Live show in MSG.

The rumored wrestlers:

Ah, of course it is.

I still think it’s so surreal there is a show for cruiserweights and it has been going for about three years now.

Based on a recent interview from Triple H, seems WWE's plans for 205 Live's future is to eventually merge it into NXT and no longer be its own dedicated brand and show.

https://www.newsweek.com/triple-h-in...keover-1458604

Also seems WWE is gutting some of NXT UK's star power in order to boost NXT for the weekly live move since both Pete Dunne and Toni Storm are currently planned to be heading to NXT.

Finally some good news.

Is 205 Live even considered “main roster”?

The show is under the WWE banner and featured on WWE branded PPVs and Network specials.

True.

Yes since it started off as being a part of RAW due to the division being drafted there when the current Brand Split Era started.

Then the division got its own show meant to be a supplement to RAW but eventually became its own brand due to Vince's neglect.

I believe it became a separate entity after the firing of Enzo Amore.

Rockstar Spud was announced as the GM around that time.

According to PWI, WWE has been in talks with CHIKARA and several lucha promotions in Mexico regarding the idea of them joining the WWE Network for the upcoming new premium tier.

Rumor has it that Avery Hoke will be on an upcoming episode of Hidden Gems.

May have to resubscribe at this news

I mean about Avery Hoke, not about Chikara

Recent rumor going around the net hints that WWE is currently considering Michael Cole to become the new lead announcer for Smackdown while Vic Joseph takes over as the new lead announcer for RAW.

Trying to make the ratings even worse, eh.

Cole to SmackDown was something I expected. It was him, Reigns and Rousey to SmackDown that were the no brainer moves. Vic Joseph got a tryout for something. I wonder where Tom Phillips goes? Third man on SmackDown or Raw? Doesn’t seem a good place for him, because he plays the lead.

Just realized next two weeks wrestling mon-wed then the week after its Mon/Wedx2/Fri

Very curious to see how NXT does.

big e vs the Fiend incoming

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Jim Cornette will be doing color commentary for the NWA.

Yes, that's a whole thing that happened. Myself and current America's Got Talent finalist Ryan Niemiller put so much work into that project, and then the producer threw it all away and did his own thing. It turned out awful. There was so much potential there, and a lot of great people working on it. It was a huge disappointment for me.

The producer is kind of a "any publicity is good publicity" hack, and refuses to accept he did any wrong. He's since blocked most of us on all social media after refusing to take any criticism as anything other than "being negative."

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Favorite <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSG?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MSG</a> moment? Easy. 2/28/2000. The production meeting that ended with “Before we wrap this up, we need to decide what Mae Young’s going to give birth to.” It should be commemorated on a poster like Starks dunk over Jordan. <a href="https://t.co/UzBlN4Vgzj">https://t.co/UzBlN4Vgzj</a></p>&mdash; Brian Gewirtz (@bfg728) <a href="https://twitter.com/bfg728/status/1171157510528622597?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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If the 205 Live talented were to be integrated into the NXT system, the Cruiserweight Championship will be the second WWE branded title in NXT. The first being the WWE United Kingdom Championship.

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That'll never cease to be impressive, holding around 300lbs in the air with essentially one arm.

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He was a monster at that time. Possibly the most "wasted" talent WWE has ever had

I know there have been rumors of a podcast thing on the WWE Network and I'm down for that. An APA podcast would be great.

I also feel like they should do talk show on there. They do the KO show and stuff like that on a random Raw or Smackdown but that should really be a scheduled show on the network. Also I know they've tried some botch stuff with the Good Brothers but they could have a great podcast or show on the WWE Network. Just so many missed opportunity there.

Two distinct things I would want to hear about:

1. Why does JBL consider Finlay to be the best heel of all time? (The right answer, by the way, is Jim Breaks)
2. The Doom vs Horsemen program where both teams were heels. And, when Reed was out of action three nights, Simmons would team with Sting or Lex Luger.

I hate Bradshaw, but there’s no doubt he’s an entertaining talker. Surprised he hasn’t gotten into the podcast game, actually.

JBL was instrumental in the demise of Gable’s original gimmick.

Anyone else in Atlantic City for Bloodsport tonight?

WWE’s refusal to either do something with Luke Harper or just let him leave is absolutely loathsome.

Just wait until he peels the bald cap off and reveals himself as the actual person who attacked Roman.

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One of my favorite things about wrestling when it was hot is how many people spell wrestlers’ names wrong on signs. I think it shows you’re over when people who are too stupid or lazy to check how your name is spelt write it down to look cool.

Attended a taping of Championship Wrestling from Arizona that finished with a Peter Avalon/Nick Aldis NWA Championship match. Was v good.

10 Pounds of Gold future spoiler alert:

It looks like this will be done to get Storm out of the way. Aldis wins and then a heel hurts Storm.

So, I was hearing a bit of buzz that Steve Austin has been cleared to take bumps. That’s interesting news. Austin’s always had that artist’s soul, so I can imagine him being worried about keeping up today, or about hurting himself and living quite uncomfortably. That being said, there’s a lot of money on the table and he has his own relationship with NBC Universal now. Would Austin getting back in the ring shock anyone?

Just a matter of time to find how big the pile of Saudi gold has to be

Was he playing as his AEW Librarian character or something else?

Nah, he was "the Producer" which seems like his normal gimmick. Old school with the sequined robe and monogrammed tights. I think I got a picture. Hang on.

Is he good in the ring?

He’ll be on Team Owens (vs Team Shane) at Survivor Series, hit a few stunners, get an elimination or 2, and then get pinned by Shane.

I was going to say that sounded half-way plausible until you got to the joke at the end. Then I realized it may not have been a joke.

Ken Doane is only 33 years old.

Austin was always going to have at least one more match. I could honestly see him facing Shane at WM with Shane going over. Passes the evil authority moniker of Vince on to Shane in a way.

Fuck You

The people behind this guy though.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bloodsport?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bloodsport</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/realKILLERkross?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realKILLERkross</a> beat <a href="https://twitter.com/thekingnickgage?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thekingnickgage</a> clean AND CALLED OUT <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveBautista?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DaveBautista</a> <a href="https://t.co/CGiIOZjbFr">pic.twitter.com/CGiIOZjbFr</a></p>&mdash; Henry T. Casey (@henrytcasey) <a href="https://twitter.com/henrytcasey/status/1173058381709479936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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If GCW somehow manages to get Batista booked for the next Bloodsport at next year's Mania weekend, that easily should rival Janela's Spring Break 4 for highest selling indies event that weekend. Probably even do better than ROH assuming it keeps spiraling downwards in terms of ticket sales.

Best match of the night easily. Told a really effective underdog vs champion story. I hadn't seen either guy wrestle before this. Both were really smooth in the ring.

Killer Kross’ best chance is introducing Dave to Scarlett.